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geminisue
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Let's post our meals, any info we want concerning our self & our health, even what exercise routine we did (if you did).  This can become very helpful to us and to others, who are learning the ropes.  
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12:00PM Glucose 166            noon      81
8:00AM                            
60 units 70/30 novolog
1-4mg glimperide            
                         Today October 2,2009
Red Meat                                                              
Poultry  3 oz. turkey                  1 slice turkey bacon
Fish                                   4 oz salmon
Egg&Roe  1 egg
Dairy
Veg. Pro.                              1/2 cup great northern beans
Fat&Oils.1 Tbls. grapeseed oil
Carbo.   1/8 c old fashioned oats
LiveFood                               1 cup spinach, 12 oz V8 LS
Fruit    1 cup peaches                 1 cup pineapple
Spices   1 tsp. dried parsley
Bev      2 12 0z Mugs Green Tea
                     w/stevia

I will add Dinner to this later!

5:00PM Glucose 110
30 units 70/30 novolog
Red Meat     4oz. sirloin beef
Veg Pro.     1/4 C jelopeano peppers
Live Foods   1 C ragu tomato sauce,1/2 C broccoli
Carbohydrate 1/2 C white rice
Fruit        1 C peaches
Spices       1/2 square bakers chocolate
             1   pkg stevia.

I did not even think about eating something between meals, and my glucose stayed in normal range, so that is great!

I did not expect this addition, but fell asleep about 8PM woke with about 9:00PM kind of confused, knew it was my blood sugar dropping.  Checked and sure enough it was down to 53.  Had to raise it up quickly so drank
13.50 oz of grape juice than follow it with a sandwich made with
2 slices of 12 grain bread and
2 oz ultra thin beef slices.

waited 30 minutes and seen it raised to 96, so I know it's on it's way up for the night, so I will go back to bed and hopefully, all will be well through the night.  We''ll see.

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good idea. We need a place, don;t we?
I may not list all my meals....
Brk. was an omelet of eggwhites with goat gouda (possible neutral) and spinach (bene)! plus blk. tea with yerba mate. A cheese that is on my swami is parmesan, but thats hard to melt.
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Do you have other cheeses on your gatherer plan, like quark, farmers, paneer, cottage cheese, these are on mine, need to still buy some.

Sounds like you chose, well Jaynee0
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Oct. 3rd Glucose 110 7:00AM

Had same breakfast, but added one egg and change fruit to pineapple.

10:00 Glucose 49-dangerously, low, had

3-6.75 pkg grape juice
1slice- 12 grain toast w/butter & 1 tsp. grape jelly, I know it is high enough now, I feel much better. This was the first time, I seem to have fading out of the person who was in front of me and knew I had to check glucose, immediately.  Could barely do it.

My ideas about it, glucose was lower than yesterday to begin with, and I added one more egg, so that absorbed some of the glucose that the carbs I had in the oats and pineapple gave me.  Will work on that.

12:00  had same supper I had yesterday for lunch today, except for added green veggies.

2:00PM 1/2 Bakers Unsweetened chocolate
       1   pkg stevia
       1C  water

Well Dinner Time approaches
Glucose 177 took 34 U 70/30 novolog
Dinner

Salmon           4oz.
dill pickle slices diced 3slices
salad dressing   3T
pineapple chunks 1C

I have energy and feel wide awake, but I am concerned about late this evening, to see if my glucose drops again.  We'll see.  Hope not.

Will be adjusting, don't quite have it figured out, yet, calories too high,for me.

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Good Morning to all, thank you for suggesting this log, I think it is going to be very informative and helpfull to the newbies like me.

I tried the stevia in my tea and "urg" I do noy know if this will become an acceptable taste as replacement for the many years of aspartime sweetner I have been useing. Although this is an superfood on my list and I suppose I will just have to get used to it. Is there perhaps any other acceptable sweetner that tastes better? I even noticed that the chewing gum that I have been chewing on for so many years has aspartame.

I would also like to know if it is acceptable to replace the whole fruit for unsweetened fruit juice and what amount of juice would replace a whole fruit?

Was it difficult to replace normal wheat bread with the rice/flax/quiona/millet flour products.
I have printed my recipies and relaized that I will have to start bakeing now. I am not the worlds best baker and have so little time on my hands as i have a 10 hour day with traveling, working and traveling home. I am lucky that I do like excercising and this is another 1-2 hours per day.

When do you do all your bakeing? as I missed sandwiches and muffins so much last week, I frantically went and bought all the differnt flours and did some bakeing this week-end, but was not very impressed with the taste and texture of the muffins and millet breakfast squres. Am I doing something wrong or is it just an adjustment and will I get used to it?


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Skillie, you will get used to the new foods! I prefer them now. I recently made some terrific banana-flaxmeal muffins (gluten free!) that I found the recipe for on the internet...just type in what ever....banana-flax muffin, or blueberry flax muffin, and use rice flour. Banana is a blk dot for me, but I figured it sweetens the muffin and is better than sugar...I used stevia (you gotta measure according to stevia's ratio to sugar) and added a bit of molasses (superfood on my swami)...anyway, welcome to the gathererer's camp!
Geminisue, I have some blk dot cheeses that I use occassionally....
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try this flax bread focaccia recipe with your compliant grains, tweaking to your taste......you may try adding less egg for starts.
focaccia
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/breads/r/flaxbasicfoc.htm


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Back again didn't realize I skipped a day, probably because I went shopping and was tired.

It sure takes time eating this way! At least for me.  Hope I can get it easier somehow.

I put my 1 cup servings of fruit in containers in frig for a few days.
I did the same with my 1/2 c servings of beans (butter & grt Northern)
Today I used the food processor to grate my celery, green pepper and mushrooms, had to stop, was tired, still have the onions to go. I chunked one cup first, then threw it in and remeasured it grated, it was still one cup, so that was fine.  I'm assuming since this is live food, we eat it raw, is that correct?  Or can we also cook with it?  Is it better for us one way or the other, just in case I can take it either way.  I never ate five cups of live food a day until now.

I'm feeling pretty weak right now, so I won't be posting earlier meals, for dinner I plan on eating

6 oz salmon with 1 cup, celery, 1 cup green pepper, 1 cup of onion and 1 tsp curry, cilantro and parsley, 1 cup of whole grain pasta, cooked and mixed together with (something, not sure what yet)  It should be good.
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G-sue, even though they are live foods you don't have to eat them raw....the veggies you just cut up wold be great steamed or even better, sauteed!
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good, that way they will shrink! Thanks.  Just seemed like a huge amount of almost nothing but sure looks like something, if you all understand what I mean.
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I made borscht for dinner tonite. I had never made it before, so I consulted the internet and picked a good recipe. Used chicken stock from my freezer and a turkey breast, two yellow beets and one red, carrot , celery, herbs, spices, and it was so good with sour cream. Ok, don't tel "swami"  about some of the stuff, but I thought it was a pretty healthful dish.
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Hallo Jayneeo,Geminisue thank you for the reply. I am gald to see that I am not just being fussy. It is also enlightning to see that some "cheating" is going on with the more experienced dieters.  Thank you for the muffin and focasia recipe idees I will certainly be trying those out.
This is how I am going to monitor my daily intake, I took my swami diet and deleted the items, only using the headlines I made colums for Mon - Sunday next to the daily servings. I will now make x in the colums when I eat the foods suggested.  This is the only way that I will be able to get myself to eat all the suggested foods as I am so used to skimping on food.I did a 8km jog last night and plan to go to the gym for a sauna and treadmill work tonight. I see that the Gatherers should actually be doing weights, so I will start incorporating some circuit work,,,,time,,,,  I must say that I am feeling so much more energetic allready, this is week 2 for me.     I had 2 hardboiled eggs and 2 rice cakes spread with marmite for breakfast and 1/2 trailmix as a snack , no cravings,,,great news!!  May you all have a great day and Geminisue I hope you feel better soon                                   


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Thank You Skillie, feeling much better, today.  Glad to hear you have figured out what you are going to do.  Happy you are adding weights to your exercise routine.  That should be very helpful

Today for breakfast I have a Gatherer Omelet, for sure!

1 Tbls. grape seed oil
1 1/2 oz ultra thin slices of turkey, diced,
1/8 cup of old fashioned oats
1/2 cup celery
1/2 cup portobello mushrooms
1 tsp parsley
1 tsp cilantro

1 tsp paprika
2 eggs beats and added to this

had cocktail sauce on top 1Tbls.
1 cup peaches
1 cup black tea
1 cup green tea
2 qts water

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Lunch glucose 91

1 1/2 oz ultra thin beef (diced)
1/2cup celery
1/2cup mushrooms

1/2cup green peppers
1/2cup onions

1 tbls garlic
1/2 c  great northern beans
1 cup peaches

1 cup ragu
2 rice cakes with
2 pads unsalted butter
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6:00 PM Glucose 144

sardines
ricotta
pineapple

yam

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Hey guys,
What are sweet potatoes for gatherers?
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Mine says yam is a super food, so if it is actually a sweet potato it will probably be a neutral, as on mine it is not a black dot or avoid,
I am using Genotype now, not swami, yet.  
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Hallo Hawain

On my swami, gatherer , sweet patato is a neautral. I made the sweet potato with Banana recipe last night for the first time and it was very Yummi!!! indeed I will definately be makeing more of that.

Today I had an boiled egg and 30g mined beef with 2 rice cakes smeared with Marmite.

Snack on 1/2 cup trail mix,,another yummi recipe that I will always have handy  

For lunch it will Have  1 small piece fried Chicken with leftover sweet potato(what time is it now

Snack on Millet Breakfast squares,, still need to get used to the texture of this one, but it is not too bad..

I will have a jog, another 8km(5miles)before
Supper will be Beef steak with roasted mixed vegetables.

Geminisue , I hope your bloodsugar levels dont give you any hassels today


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Today

Gatherer's Omelet
peaches
green tea
molasses

Meat loaf

mash potatoes
peppercorn gravy

zucchinni bread
cocoa
molasses

vanilla
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Thanks.  I can't wait for my book.
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Brk. eggwhites with a cheese sauce, manchego (neutral) with bit of rice flr and bit of flaxseed, ground, and water. Tea with yerba mate'. (unfortunately, blk tea is an avoid on swami)
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Breakfast was 5g cooked oats with a teaspoon Honey.
Lunch is Beef sausage ans salad
Dinner will be Home made Pizza made with rice flour base.  I have had no cheese yet this week, so I think it is time for a lovely Pizza.
Did 30 min treadmill and 10 min in the sauna last night. As it is Friday I will not be doing any excersize.  The week-end I would like to try some more of the swami baking recepies. Could anyone please tell me if I can replace Flaxseed flour with rice flour in the Cranberry muffin recipe? As I just cant find flaxseed flour only the seeds.


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Quoted from Skillie
Breakfast was 5g cooked oats with a teaspoon Honey.
Lunch is Beef sausage ans salad
Dinner will be Home made Pizza made with rice flour base.  I have had no cheese yet this week, so I think it is time for a lovely Pizza.
Did 30 min treadmill and 10 min in the sauna last night. As it is Friday I will not be doing any excersize.  The week-end I would like to try some more of the swami baking recepies. Could anyone please tell me if I can replace Flaxseed flour with rice flour in the Cranberry muffin recipe? As I just cant find flaxseed flour only the seeds.




Hey Skillie...it is the seeds that you want so that you can grind them yourself.  It is very easy.  Put about half a cup of whole flaxseed in a blender/bullet/coffee grinder.  You need an appliance that has the blades sticking up.  Grind until desired consistency and voila.   Freshly ground flaxmeal.  

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Today I'm doing alright, but decided to try and pay closer attention to what I'm eating, and the amounts of what I am eating.  

My glucose numbers are terrific, right know, but my weight isn't, it went up slightly, and not to happy about that, but I have a feeling it is because of leading a sedentary life style, due to health.  So I am going to try to eat on the low side of number of ounces, and see what happens, and if that doesn't show a lost in a week, I will, also go on the low side of portions per week.

I am eating diamonds and super foods the majority of the time, had a few avoids this week, but figured no big thing, but maybe it was, so will avoid avoids, knowingly, that's my goal this week.
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Here it is, enjoy reading and adding to it, it's for all the gatherers and others to post on, ask questions, etc.

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As jeanb says...one avoid...one dress size.

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Hey Skillie...it is the seeds that you want so that you can grind them yourself.  It is very easy.  Put about half a cup of whole flaxseed in a blender/bullet/coffee grinder. You need an appliance that has the blades sticking up.  Grind until desired consistency and voila.   Freshly ground flaxmeal.  

Debra



Actually, this is not true.  If you have only the ones with the blades sticking up that is great, but a bullet or something of that nature has an attachment that has a flat blade.  When went to my hubby's sister for Thanksgiving she showed me that using the flat blade works better.   It grinds it up real nice and you can put a little bit more in the container at a time.

Lloyd...not to worry about leaving the liquids out.  First time I doubled the recipe I forgot to double the liquids and it turned out pretty good.      ...denser  

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Hi Debra, thank you for the advise. I did grind the seeds and baked the muffins,they came out very yummi, I certainly will be makeing more of them. The taste was quite acceptable to me although the Hubby thinks it is not tasty enough, but he has a sweet tooth and is not impressed with haveing to eat the non sweetened and rice flour type of foods that I am producing lately. He is also O+, but does not want to be Genotyped, so sorry for him, but now he has to eat what ever is on my Gatherer diet. HIE HIE, he does not even realize I am preparing foods from my diet, except when I bake something with the rice flour and cant understand why the pasta has become so white lately of coarse I have bought paste made with rice flour and serving it without the usual white, cheese sauce.  Otherwise I am feeling great, this is my second week on the swami-gatherer diet and I have so much energy I actually jogged away for my hubby on an uphill last night and he could not believe it as I am usually so slow on uphills. According to the scale I have not lost weight, ,but I am sure that my clothes are fitting looser and this is all that matters to me.


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Skillie- Your doing a great job and you will continue to see a difference and feel a difference. Enjoy, it can even be fun.
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Thank you Geminisue, I hope you have been feeling fine lately It is week-end again so I will be experimenting with some new recipies. I still crave sugar, but read on an old tread that Dr D recomended drinking glutimine, this was a surprise as I stopped drinking it when I started the diet because I was unsure if it was permisable. It is refreshing to see that so many other people have asked the important questions allready. So now I can incorporate it again as I used to drink it for extra energy while excersizing.


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Hey Skillie...glad you enjoyed the muffins.  Yes, I have a sweet toothed hubby also.  He does good sometimes and other times it's like he can't get enough sugar.   To a 'certain' extent he does BTD...doesn't want to be GT typed or secretor test tested either.   He is an A.   We 'think' he is a teacher.   He is where he is at and I am where I am at.   Baby steps...sometimes they are so little.   

Your hubby notices you running uphill and you have soooooo much energy.   He is noticing...and that is the main thing.     Gatherer diet for an O is waaaaaaaay better than the 'normal' food guide.  

'Can't understand why the pasta has become so white lately'...I just love this one.   Keep it up.

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  Started my day with hot water & lemon.  Then made breakfast : ghee, left over steak, portobello mushroom, onion, and red pepper.  All sauteed in frying pan.  We were heading out of town for the day & I ended up putting my breakfast in a wide mouth thermos as we were running late and ate it about an hour into our travels.(8:00).  Lunch: left over baked salmon and cut up veggies ( peppers, turnip, celery, daikon radish, snap peas & cherry tomatoes) and a cup of ban-cha green tea.  Driving home at 5:30 pm I had some cut up grapefruit pieces.  When I got home I had the rest of the cut up veggies from lunch, a cup of Yerba Mate tea.  Then later in the evening I had cut up pieces of fresh pineapple, and then ended up having 2 choc-cherry Unibars.  Should have had some more protein when I got home so I wouldn't have been craving something sweet.
  I've been down in Victoria helping my mom for the last 2 weeks and I did pretty good with my compliance, but I did get a little off and now have to get back on track.



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BCgal- you should be proud on what you have accomplished, caring for your mother and still taking care of you, that is a great accomplishment in this day and age.  I'm proud of you, keep up the good way of living.  
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Brought it out of hiding.  Guess I have to keep posting to keep it up front,  I need some help.  Come on, other Gatherers, I eat a lot of repetitive meals, I live alone, and not all that picky.  I just want to get the diamonds in and hopefully, will start losing again, but I must say I went couple of days without veggies, and got very weak,  ate two cups two hours apart with beef and did I ever feel better.  I actually thought I was getting sick but everything was normal for me, so thought .
Eat my veggies, and it worked.  Well maybe the beef helps too. and the great northern beans and butter beans, sure kept glucose balanced. That is for sure.

How do you eat your chocolate?  I'm allowed 1 teaspoon a day, been making cocoa with water and molasses, on some days, but might need a new idea, soon.  What about brownies? lol
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wouldn't be surprisd if you could do brownies, Gsue! There was a recipe going around called Miracle Brownies....you could google it, it was flax brownies.
Thanks for getting this thread up to the top where I found it! Yay!
I need the stimulus too! This morn I had scottish oats with a wee spot of cream and stevia! Then I scrambled eggwhites to have with it. Lunch was turkey meatloaf leftovers with vegan mayo and lettuce. Oh yes, I made a blk. dot sweet potato salad! simple and yummy: half c. cooked sw. p. with vegan mayo, salt, and curry pwdr! Love it!
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Hi There, I have been feeling tired since yesterday, did not feel like getting up this morning and this is not a natural feeling for me as I do not have this type of problem. Does anybody think I am doing something wrong. Have been eating most of the foods as swami suggests except the 6 portions of veggies per day I seem to manage about 3. And on the cheeses about half the portion, although last week I had no cheese till Friday. The 3 portions of fruit should not be a problem as I have never been much of a fruit eater and would rather drink a pure fruit juice than eat fruit which I have been doing.At least one glass per day. The exscersize is no new addition to my daily routine.
Had 50g of cooked oats with cinnamon , honey , goji berries and currants for breakfast.
Snack of 1/2 cup trail mix
Lunch 1 egg, Feta cheese , herb salad mix
Dinner Lamb tjops, sweet potato, zuchinni and basmati rice.

Hope you all have a great day.


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   For supper I sliced up some left over lamb, and steamed some butternut squash; added ghee, curry powder & sea salt.  I finally managed to get to the gym yesterday morning. I've been out of town so much this summer & fall that I'd gotten away from it.  Since the winter snow usually keeps us pretty close to home, I expect to be able to get back into a regular routine this winter.   I really need it to keep my liver happy.  It's acting up again and I know that the morning walks on the treadmill will get it back in order.  The guy I go to for Live Blood Cell Analysis wants me to do a couple 2 day juice fast over the next few months to give my liver a break.  I'm trying to get myself prepared for that.  Was going to do the juice for Sat. & Sun. but my husband wants us to up in the bush on Sun. to help a friend get wood & I'll be too cold if I'm just doing juice so I may wait till Monday to start.



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Skillie, were not suppose to be drinking fruit juices, except as a beverage, I think 2 -8 oz portions a day, but that includes our green tea and other mentioned beverages, too.

I think it is much better to eat our fruit, as the fruit juice plays with our glucose in our bodies, and raise it a lot, (every 4 oz is a fruit serving, when it comes to raising glucose ,would raise 40 -50 in about 20 minutes)

BC please read above. You need protein and fat to cut the amt. of the raise.
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Hi! I'm new to the diet but when I read my recommendations I discovered that I shouldn't eat sugar, aspartame or sucralose... anybody knows with what I should sweeten my foods???
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agave nectar, vegetable glycerine, and any other sweet mentioned in your list

those not listed, but in other GT lists mean you can consider them neutrals.


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Hi there  I hope everybody had a good week-end. Todau I will be haveing 1 boiled egg, tomato 50g pecorino cheese and a slice of Italian bread that I baked over the week-end with brown rice flour. It came out as a very heavy bread althoug the recipe said it should be a light bread.

Lunch is some left over Chicken stirfry with good veggies like clelery, green pepper , carrots, green beans, mushrooms.

Snack on trail mix, which is the only new  veggie I love .
I make myself a litre of filtered water to which I add two sliced of lemon and 2 mint leaves. I have this every day.

Dinner will be turkey and basmati rice with peas and sweet potato.

I have picked up a few oz's and am worried that my weight may be creeping up the weight ladder and not down.I have cut out all avoid's, although chocolate still keeps on beckoning me, my weakness, the 3 teaspoons a day is just not enough Is there a specific type of chocolate that we are supposed to eat??

I would still love to get my hands on a nice bread recipe, is there a recipe that would bake a bread that closely resembles a nice white (wheat) bread that is baked with our compliant flours please help if you have any suggestions.


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Hi there  I hope everybody had a good week-end. Todau I will be haveing 1 boiled egg, tomato 50g pecorino cheese and a slice of Italian bread that I baked over the week-end with brown rice flour. It came out as a very heavy bread althoug the recipe said it should be a light bread.

Lunch is some left over Chicken stirfry with good veggies like clelery, green pepper , carrots, green beans, mushrooms. Sounds good

Snack on trail mix, which is the only new  veggie I love What sort of veg is this? Our trail mix here, is dried fruit with nuts etc I make myself a litre of filtered water to which I add two sliced of lemon and 2 mint leaves. I have this every day. Good going

Dinner will be turkey and basmati rice with peas and sweet potato. Do you manage to lose eating two lots of carbs in one meal
I have picked up a few oz's and am worried that my weight may be creeping up the weight ladder and not down.I have cut out all avoid's, although chocolate still keeps on beckoning me, my weakness, the 3 teaspoons a day is just not enough Is there a specific type of chocolate that we are supposed to eat?? Mine too Very addictive once you give in
I would still love to get my hands on a nice bread recipe, is there a recipe that would bake a bread that closely resembles a nice white (wheat) bread that is baked with our compliant flours please help if you have any suggestions.
Whereabouts in SA are you?  I've been to Joburg...loved it;)
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Skillie, your meals sound delicious, but not "weight-loss" meals....you could lose the peas and sw. potato for awhile, instead have spinach, zuccini, and salad with your meat.....
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http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/recipedepictor7x.cgi?82

try substituting if necessary


I have settled for focaccia type bread.....never goes wrong!


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Hallo Possum. Jaynolee and Lola,

Thank you for the feedback it is greatly appreciated. I have not been thinking my food choices through properly it seems that I have been spoiling myself with too much carbs, just because the veggies do not fall under the carbs list I assumed they are ok. I will take greater care from now on.

The trail mix is nuts and dried fruit and I love the carob!!!!!!!!just like chocolate yum yum..

Lola i will be baking the bread you suggested and will give you some feed-back

Thank you all ...

Geminisue have you been ok??


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Lola- I'm also going to try your bread, and will also try flaxseed crackers.

Has anyone heard of baked cheese, seen on tv today where some male cook took a cheese (cows milk cheese) but sure others may work, also. and grated it, onto cookie sheet (to look like pancakes)on a plastic looking sheet that went on top of cookie sheet, sure parchment paper should work also.  Bake at 350 for five minutes.  When it came out, it looked like a lace doily from years ago.  Suggested wrapping around something to make a bend in them (like a taco) if desired, and add fillings, of choice, to top them, from salsas, to soft cheese, to marmalade.

Yes Skillie, I'm doing okay.  I realized I need my 4 cups of veggies a day to feel strength, otherwise, I feel weak, never knew what was causing it before, thought it was just my poor health, but it isn't.  So happy about that, and my health is much, much better.  Thanks, for asking.  

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I've had a full month of trying to eat from the gatherer plan, and did so most of the time and I didn't weigh myself, until this morning and I have to share I am down 7.5 lbs, and feel great about it.
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Great, Geminisue!
And good luck, Skillie!
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Thanks Jayneeo, Am doing gatherer shopping again, very soon, so all will be good in the pantry and frig, again. lol  
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I've had a full month of trying to eat from the gatherer plan, and did so most of the time and I didn't weigh myself, until this morning and I have to share I am down 7.5 lbs, and feel great about it.
Congratulations; that is really good going!!!

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Wow Geminisue, Congrats on the weight loss, YOU GO GIRL.
I baked the bread this week-end and must say that it is the most acceptable out of all that I have tried to date. It came out a bit raw in the centre bit I am poppong the slices into a toaster and whula it is edible.
So we are starting a new week full of new motivation, may it be a successful week to all


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Geminisue...congrats on the weight loss...keep it up girl.

Skillie...sometimes I have to leave the bread in a little longer than the usual 20 minutes so that it isn't soggy in the middle.   Gives the bread a bit more of a browned look on the top which adds a nice taste.

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Thanks DEbra, I also find, I am feeling healthier and have more energy pushing the veggies!
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I see mention of muffin and bread. Where can I find the recipe? Thanks!


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I see mention of muffin and bread. Where can I find the recipe? Thanks!
here's the bread recipe mentioned a page ago...  Goodluck with it...
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/recipedepictor7x.cgi?82

And well done Sue on the weight loss!! That's fantastic going!!!
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Thanks for the recipe! I see it has rice flour, and that's an avoid for me right now. So can I substitute with quinoa or teff or amaranth flours? Anyone tried that?


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Lola said to experiment with it...haven't made it yet myself - I don't trust myself with any bread... its just too yummy
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I began the SWAMI Gatherer plan again this week. (Started back in Oct when I first recieved SWAMI but after a week put an inch on waist and gained 2lbs; freaked and went back to Hunter no grain plan). After a week of eating all portions and being very compliant; abdomen is very bloated and put an inch on waist and gained 3 lbs, very freaky. Am taking 2 deflcet with breakfast and 2 deflect with lunch. Also taking the Hunter 3 pack, as the Gatherer pack makes me ill.  I am allergic to yerba mate tea right now ( hope that will change in a year, because I really like it) and CLA makes my knees and ankles ache, my eyelids swell and the small hump on my back that is going away after starting BTD, Swells and aches.

Did anyone lese have these problems when they first started their Gatherer Swami? And how long did it last? The last thing I need to do is gain weight. Also stopped taking Glucophage 1/2 tab of 500 mgs SL 1 time  a day, have replaced with Glycoscia.

Any input or insight would be helpful.
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Oooh poor you.. Hope you get it sorted out.. Have no words of advice - but I'm sure someone will... except to say I'd avoid grains & up the protein from what I hear others saying!!!
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I also had weigh gains first few weeks, I think the body has to adjust and I think we figure it all out in a few weeks, too, which is very helpful.
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hmm, well I didn't lose any weight (guess I gained a couple) but I realized it was because I was eating more than the portions....ESPECIALLY  the fats........
still trying to get in the groove....but it is hard for me to eat so few fats...I use almond oil to fry my eggwhites, and that almost uses up all my oil for the day...and at lunch and dinner I want dressing on my salad, and I may saute my veggies...or at least dress them with oil or ghee....see what I mean?
But I seriously want to follow my swami plan......maybe we can help each other.
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Oh, and I eat some cheeses that are not really on my plan. (confession time) I believe I could get beyond that by being more careful a shopper.
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I also find that I consume far more fats than allowed. But being that I just began the GTD/SWAMI food plan I am first and foremost concerning myself with avoiding avoids and sticking to bennies and geno-harmonics.  When I feel comfortable with this, probably within a few days, I will begin working out a plan for staying within the recommended servings.  Gosh, if only those oils turned into veggies....abracadabra...


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can you eat poached eggs, or hard boiled, or microwaved (1 egg in cup mixed up, add seasoning and 1T water for 50 sec)(2-1.10) or can you use chicken broth and seasoning and lemon juice for your dressing and maybe do both and have the fat allowance on something you really want to taste it on.
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I am very glad to see that there are some humans out there and we all have weaknesses. I was being very hard on myself for not being able to stay within the suggested amounts and servings. I mostly eat less than the suggested servings on veggies, but use more fats as well, mostly useing the butter for supplementing the taste of the veggies and spread on my rice cakes for lunch.Naughty of me hey . But getting there slowly,, but surely


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Hey congrats geminisue! - nice surprise huh?




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well this discussion caused me to go check out my swami again, and I realized that I can do it, I can.......it is a restriction on the amount of fat but I will let myself have a T. of evoo a day (instead of 4 da. a wk) and that will help me enter the swami diet more closely. There is also the allotment of nutbutter and ghee, which is also small, but it helps to get by...
I also realized I get more cheese than I had been thinking....which I love! (baaad O!) So maybe I can get on board in a more dedicated way.
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I also love the cheese swami has allowed me and make ample use of it to survive during the day, especially for lunch. I just cant find Romano cheese here in South Africa, but have settled with the pecorino whic was a very sharp tasting one till I got used to it, parmesan is actually tasteless when not melted and enriched with herbs.Oh Yeah I started growing my own herbs in pots and they are about three weeks old now and I am waiting to harvest them,,The mint is loveley in mineral water with lemon, or pineapple. The celery, oregano, thyme and dill are still too small. I have never liked spinach ever Any suggestions on how to cook it and survive the ordeal of eating it


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Try a little lemon juice on it.

Bury it (mix it)lol, into the other food, if possible, then down the hatch, now I like it. Thought I didn't as a kid, because the only way my mom made it was creamed, and I used to gag and leave the room when I seen it.  So surprised I can eat it and want it.
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Well, believe it or not, I just now saw this thread, even though it dates back to 10/2!  That's how busy I was at work with the latest merger.  As of yesterday, things have finally lightened considerably on my co-worker and I.  Anyway, I saw "Gatherers Log", and I just had to start my post thusly:

Stardate 11/11/2009  

Sitting at computer and, for the first time in months, galaxy looks all clear through window.  Feeling good, eating right, and exercising.  Currently detoxing from some chemical, biological and stress assaults on my system, but using my advanced weapons system of the aforementioned diet to neutralize these alien invaders.  Also taking elderberry (Proberry) to that end, as well as holy basil/tulsi, and more CoQ10 than usual.  Contemplating hitting the NAC over the weekend.  Preparing to consume some peppermint tea.  

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jayneeo,

Decreasing oil has been very hard. When I was on hunter diet and increased my fats (2 to 4 TBSPs a day), the belly began to disappear. When I cut back on fats no results and I just don't feel as well.

Sweet potatoes went to a black dot and these also make me feel great. I did get yams as a diamond; which I just don't get. I thought true yams were a very large white tuber, the size of  a thigh, grown in South America and not even available in the US. I guess they are referring to the longer, skinner looking version of the sweet potato.

Was bloated all week until Monday morning. Went out Sunday night and had beef brisket, a baked sweet potato with butter and a salad. Got up the next day and all the bloat was gone. Had already used my weekly allotment of beef ,so this was exta. Hate fish, it is disgusting ( we are talking gag in your palte gross), but have been forcing tuna salad several daysd a week. I miss my daily beef and feel best when eating it.

But will continue to give this a fair shot. May have to up the beef and oil though. Since I stopped taking diabetic meds, it took a week, I have become a ravenous beast. Eat all my portions for the day and still go to bed hungry. Hoping this will balance itself out soon. Am also working out 60 to 90 minutes 6 days a week. May need more protein to balance that out.


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P.T. we could use your wisdom here! welcome aboard!
kittykar, thanks for yor response...I am needing to find the right balance if things so I don't wig out on rye crackers w/almond butter (as in one after another) and rye is an avoid on my swami.
Yams really do refer to the African huge tuber....can't get them on west coast. But sw. potato is a blk dot.....(hopeful)
Oh, wow, I hate fish too! I can take fresh wild salmon or halibt once in a while....grilled or with teriyaki or tartar sauce.
making turkey marinara sauce right now...should be good....
black beans are a great carb source!
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Turkey Marinara Sauce, please share

PT- glad you found us, anxious for your input  (been following your accounts of what has happened to you)
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Oh, gosh it's simple....just ground turkey dark meat cooked with a jar of Whole Foods' marinara sauce...I add powdered chipotle peppers and a handful of clean spinach or more! (talk about how to hide it!!)
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How in heavens do you folks manage to eat five servings of veggies a day?! A serving is a WHOLE cup! I can barely manage two cups!
Today I cup up three leaves of escarole, half of a tomato, and half of a red bell pepper, tossed together and added oil and salt. I think it would've fit into two cups, non-compressed. Does non-compressed count?
My son has no problem eating cut up celery, carrots, kirby, peper, he actually loves the munching and crunching, but I really dislike them. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to do it, like it or not!


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sounds delicious, thanks!
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oh, well, if it has to be by the cupful....well.....no. I count easy stuff like mushrooms in eggs, onions and red bells chopped into ground beef, and don't forget tomato sauce! (as in the marinara, plus the added spinach)    then have salad and some fruit.)
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Fruit is considered as a separate category, right? So it's gotta be 5 servings of 'live food' (veggies), and 2 servings of fruit, per day (as per my SWAMI printout...)


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I try to eat a large salad once a day with several benes. Add veggies to things you eat and you will soon find it easy to get them all in. I add 1 cup of spinach to my protein shakes, blend well with the liquid before adding other ingredients. Don't add arugala though; did that once and forgot about the peppery taste   I had peppered blueberry protein shake.


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Diffy, I get my 5 cups of veggies in very easily, by chopping them in a food processor

I mix one cup into my egg omelet with mushrooms, cook it like a pancake and either flip it over, or fold it in half and cook until done.

The other four cups I mix with ground sirloin or could mix with ground turkey, bison, lamb, and a tomato sauce and compliant beans of choice.I use great north and butter beans ( I process mine, so I don't see them)Plus add all the teaspoons of compliant seasonings and herbs.
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Okay, so I'm slow.    

I figured out where the excrutiating knee and ankle pain has come from.   On my SWAMI, pineapple is now just a bene and sweet potatoes a neutral, so I dumped both in favor of diamond foods and decreased my flax seed from a 1 T a day to only 3 T a week-----BIG MISTAKE!!!!!  In my handy food bible: 1 cup of pineapple has 74.1% of daily  of manganese requirements, sweet potato slightly less and flax seed oil also high in manganese. Manganese decreases inflammation and is now being used for arthritis and carpal tunnel treatment.  It has many other benefits too. Couldn't also figure out why eyelids were kind of puffy too.

So the moral of the story boys and girls is too EAT YOUR PINEAPPLE or you could be TOO CRIPPLED to work out!!!!!!


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kittykar, thanks for the heads up!!!!! manganese? who knew?
And Gsue, I love your technique of processing all the veggies and then throwing them in everything!!!
And diffy: righto! Fruit is a separate category....I obviously need to eat more veggies too!
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wow....just realized: I actually get (so it seems) as much cheese as anyone......just more limited in variety.....could that be true? ...makes me feel way less deprived cuz I could love any cheese! (I get pecorino romano, parmesan, farmers, as superfoods and a few others as neutrals....)
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I got several cheeses too, just not cheddar my fav.


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Wow! What a great smoothie! This is so super easy and all diamonds for me (per swami, so not sure about gatherer)
1 c. organic papaya juice (Lakeland)
2 oz. farmer's cheese (Belfiore brand)
2 T. egg white powder (protein pwdr)
T. ground flaxseed
bit of vanilla and bit of stevia totally optional
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That smoothie sounds good, I will try and give it a try the beginning of the month, when I go shopping.
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last night we had grassfed beef burgers wrapped in lettuce with fresh salsa (and....well, an  avoid: guacamole) plus cooked rutabaga, diced and sauteed in ghee! yum! Liked it so much we thought of growing rutabaga...will ask gulfcoastguy.
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plus rutabagas are so good raw?  Have you tried, them raw?  The flavor is super delicious.
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Here it is Janeeo- guess when no one is using it, it tends to disappear.

I am trying, it is hard, right now, other things like family seems to be my focus right now, so I need to bring me to the front of the line, again and take care of me.

Thanks for asking for it, it feels like my responsibility since I started this one, I will try to keep it going, but please help!
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Oh, I will help, G'sue! I like posting gatherer stuff. Even though I go with swami. (in which I am a gatherer)
This was yummy so I wanted to post.
lunch: 3/4 c. nonfat ricotta, plus 3 T. hummus (I found white bean at TJ's) and 1T. pesto, plus sauteed spinach ( about 3/4 c. cooked)  mix all. It's real good. The ricotta is a neutral for me, but th rest are bennies or diamonds. I justify the neutral because I need a high protein lunch that isn't meat sometimes!
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I understand not wanting meat sometimes, just want something to grab and eat and get it over with, because of other things to do, and it just happens to be the right time to eat, especially when one is a diabetic like oneself.  I'm not hungry, but need to eat anyways, to get the right amount of glucose, to coincide with the amount of novolog I took in the morning.  

I enjoyed oatmeal with molasses and currants for breakfast with salmon and great northern beans and green beans to follow it. Kept my glucose stable until noon, so that was great, when I had a half a thin crusted pizza with the works (white flour, an avoid)(but will soon be getting some spelt and rice flour and try making my own), when I get the craving.

Also want to try that flax seed microwave bread, and see after I make it the first time, if I can't switch it to a pizza crust, instead. Has anybody tried it that way?
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Tonight's dinner is still in the oven. I'm making amaranth in one pot (with some sea salt and grapeseed oil added to the cooking water), green beans in another (with olive oil and salt) and salmon loaf (1 large can salmon, quinoa flakes, 2 eggs, onion, garlic, and dill). I'm also making brocolli soup on the stove (for my kids since I can't have broccolli, but it's about the only way to get DD2 to eat veggies). Right now it's just sauteed onions (in olive oil), water, and broccolli,  but she'll add some spices to it when she purees it later.


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Ruthiegirl Can you go into a little more detail on how you cook your amaranth like how much amaranth to how much water, do you add it after water boils or add it in the beginning, can it also be eaten as a breakfast with a sweetener? Thanks, I want to give it a try, soon.  
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have a pot of basmati brown rice with amaranth in the fridge. I cooked up a pot of it in my rice cooker....the rice is 2 to one, water to rice and then a handful of amaranth and about twice as much water as a handful. I find it easier to make that way. I'm a fan of rice cookers, and the combo tastes really good.
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want to try that flax seed microwave bread

why microwave?


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Recipe was given for it, I use one, so going to try it.  No other reason.
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Okra is a diamond for me,I have found some at the local grocer, but have no idea how to cook it, does anybody have any ideas?  I am really battling to find compliant cheeses here in South Africa. The pecorino is made from cows milk, it is organic and suitable for vegetarians and in romano I can only get a parmesan. Will it really make a differance that the cheese is made of cows milk?


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Skillie cows milk is an avoid, so will probably make a difference in how you feel,  Are you allowed buffalo?  Did you see our post on buffalo milk (can make paneer, cottage cheese from it) What about goats?  There are instructions on video just goodgle paneer, you will find it, if not check back here and I will try and find it for you.
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Recipe was given for it, I use one, so going to try it.  No other reason.

Geminisue you are doing a tremendous job here!!  well done!!
Regarding the microwave,Mmmm, if you do not mind me saying this, but I do not trust microwaves, rather cook using top stove or any other natural system.
We had this discussion before, just in case you missed it:
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I'm really not happy with how the amaranth came out. I put some amaranth into a corningware pan, added hot water from my hot water urn, then put it in the oven. It came out kind of goopy and slimy.

I think the texture of amaranth would be perfect as a breakfast cereal (except that I can't eat cereal for breakfast or I fall back to sleep. I have my grains later in the day.) I really didn't like the amaranth as a side dish,  but I was out of quinoa and millet needs to be toasted before cooking (which I didn't have the patience for last night.)


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you don;t have to toast the millet, but it is a tasty way to cook it. And I prefer the amaranth mixed with other grains...then it tastes a bit sweet ...delish.
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Wish me strength!

I baked peanut butter cookies with the kids today (peanuts, sugar, eggs, some with semi-sweet chocolate chips and/or white chocolate chips). So far I haven't eaten any, and I hope I have the strength to continue doing that!


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oh, man ruthiegirl!!!!! You are so strong!!!!!
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Put them out of sight, or better yet, have the kids put them out of site, and if you find them by accident, remember there trying to help you so don't give in.  
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Oh, well. I ended up eating one- but only one.

I really need to stop snacking on sugar- I've currently got a cold and I'm sure the sugar is only making things worse.

I should probably take some elderberry, but I only have the syrup form in the house right now, and I forgot to look for an unsweetened variety when I was at the HFS yesterday. Do you think the benefits of the elderberry outweigh the negatives of the fructose in the syrup?


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I don't think so, I stay away from fructose, if I know it is in something.  Maybe a serving of berries, or some bouilion with minced garlic and cayenne pepper, both of either may help
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Good Morning Gatherers, I finally cooked the Okra. I fried it with garlic and onion in a little olive oil and some sea salt and cayenne pepper for seasoning. It will definitely never make my popular veggies list. Should it be so gooye I hate spinage and I think this okra is going on the same list........eekey Both foods are diamonds, which is sad, because I only have a few diamond veggies.Although I did read up on the nutritional value of Okra and it is filled with very good vitamins and iron. I will have to hide it away in stews. Does anybody else have Okra as a diamond and what do you do with it?


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I've only eaten Okra as an ingredient in stews other people have cooked. It IS a very gooey veggie, and a great way to thicken up stews, but IMO not so good for anything else.

Have you tried spinach in a quiche? I mix frozen chopped (and thawed ) spinach with eggs, salt, and spices, then bake it.


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Spinach is a huge fave with me! It is not at all like yucky okra! I think you have to grow up eating okra to like it! I never cook spinach down to that level of sliminess! It needs to retain some integrity....just sautee it in a bit of evoo (gently) and a sprinkle of water...should take less than 4 or 5 min.
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I love them oven roasted, with olive oil and sea salt...glad we all are as unique as our taster status!


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Ugh. I'm still sick. I don't know if I'm having  a really mild case of the flu, or if I've been having several colds back to back, or just one cold that won't go away, but I'm getting sick of this! DS woke me a few times last night wimpering, so I didn't sleep too well last night. Now I'm home with a sick 8yo.  

I'm starting to feel frustrated with my diet- if this Gatherer food list was so good for me, then why am I so sick this winter? Then I realized- um, wait a minute. I haven't been following it 100%. I've recently learned how horrible sugar is for me, and I don't think I've quite finished detoxing from the last time I gorged on the stuff. Then there were the potato latkes I ate earlier this week. None of this is a fair test.


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Lola may have just mentioned the one way okra could be good....sounds not too bad.
ruthiegirl, for me, getting rid of flulike stuff came after staying off wheat and cow dairy for a good while. Not saying you haven't already done that. Also sugar can set me up for trouble.....as you said.
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Oh, I just made a yummy cranberry relish!
12 oz. fresh cranberries, chopped. ( hand chopped most, blended some)
1 c. dried cherries (coarsely choppped)
and half a c. of agave
sprinkle of cardamon
mix and refrigerate for a couple days, serve.
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you have all the right answers RG!!
all you need to do is apply your knowledge!


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Hey there Gatherers, How are we cooking those turkeys this year. Any good stuffing ideas?
I have eventually found a supplier of sheepmilk pecorrina and Feta  cheese! Horay,now I can add that to my compliant list.  
I have also found agave, at long last, after so many funny looks and gasps from retail store personell: WHAT!Never heard of it>

Thank goodness for INTERNET!!!!


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hellooooo, gatherers!
no activity here for awhile!!!
Let's get off to a great start for the year 2010! I know there's a lot of us out there....(probably the biggest cohort), so let's share our progress, recipes, menues, etc.
I have been using flax more consistently which is a diamond. Oh, and last night DH and I went out to a great restaurant and I had short ribs cooked down to very tender, with carrots, and onions. (carrots may be a bl. dot, or avoid) I had a couple sips of DH's red wine, but none for me. No bread, but I did have about one small new potato, an avoid. All in all, I think I did pretty well. It was my first avoid in the new year, and veddy veddy small.
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your cranberry relish sounds delicious Jayneeo, your dinner sounded good, especially the red wine, to top it off.

Today I had oat bran, black strap molasses, currants, & cranberries for breakfast
            hot & sour soup and turkey salad with spinach, broccoli & asparagas in it,
(too many green, since it was cooked green veggies, turned turkey green, was not eye appealing but I ate most of it, anyways, tasted good,
            had a 100% juice and cocoa, BSM in hot water as a beverage
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I try to keep an organic red bell pepper around for adding to things like that, that are too green! (they are so expensive, but still worth it if you make them stretch!)
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And speaking of organic red bell peppers, I had a quarter of one raw with almond butter on it for a snack. Really good. Could eat too much of it!

This a.m. I had: 2 eggs fried in rice bran oil (diamond) and green tea, unsweetened cranberry juice with stevia.

This is to try and lose the pounds that hopped a ride over the holidays!   (it's working)
Now tonite when I go to my book club (which is more of a "cook" club,) I hope I can stay strong!
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Any weight loss goals out there?
Well, we are gatherers, so there must be some of us who need to lose some weight this year!
Our great role model is P. Twist!
I, for one, plan to lose 25 lbs this next year! (There, I've said it! How scary!) I invoke P. T. to inspire and set the example!
(I keep posting so this thread will still be visible....) help me out here, gatherers...
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My goal is to lose 50 lbs by June 30th.Then keep on going down hoping for another 50+ by Dec. 31.  This is my year!
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I would really like to lose at least 50lbs, but alas not happening. I have lost inches though, everywhere but around the waist. I went gluten free in June and decided to stop fretting about the weight loss and just become healthy. Not very productive to constantly stew  and worry  about my weight. Have also been doing affirmations from Louise Hay.


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Thanks Lola!
kittykar, let's do it this year! Geminisue is on board too.
Should we drink lemonwater each morning? (suggestion for detox in newletter)
Wish my lemons were ripe....they need more hangtime. But I think I will do the lemon water.
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Sure, why not. Have tried so hard in the past, working out 2 to 3 hours a day until I all but collapsed. Thinking if I just tried harder it would work. Lemon is only a bene for me but lime is a diamond. Would lime work? Going on vacation 1-14 thru 1-21. Will get on board til  I go and then after.


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Sounds good to me, maybe lemon in hot water with green tea in it too.

I'm trying to space my meals further, apart also. 4 between B&L  5-6 between L & D.

without a snack, as long as my glucose, doesn't drop.

Focusing on 9 fish servings and 7-9 egg servings a week, also

I go with salmon, catfish, and sardines

Flax seed is coming in play a little more often lately, too.

Plenty of water, at least a gallon a day and should be more, but I figure tea counts in there also, I strive for 1/2 my weight in oz of water a day and grams of protein a day, but the latter is harder to reach.

I need to focus on increasing my veggies, again probably doing 2 1/2 cups instead of five (only because I don't have enough of them in the house, most of the time)

Fruits I have at least two, and save juice for low glucose.

Also, I am using prayer to succeed, and bible reading when I don't want to think about eating, and lately it has worked, well.

Do you want to post weight and repost weekly? here or PM  Either way is fine with me.
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Oh boy, posting weight? scary. But good idea. I will start with tomorrow's weight (I weigh every morning)
and we're doing lemon water in the morning....yeah, I think warm sounds good, with or without gr. tea.
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a gallon a day and should be more, but I figure tea counts in there also


tea is dehydrating, should not be counted in the water intake cuota


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Hi there Gatherers, I am glad to see that we are off to a bang on the Gatherers Log in the new year. And yes the festive season has taken its toll on this Gatherer, I tried to be very good and stick to my ben foods, but some naughty bread rolls jumped on to my plate and straight into my tummy!This and some fruitcake was my major sin and the inches just showed up to confirm it. Well I have started the detox as suggested in the news letter.

May every one have an successful year personally and weight wise


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Thanks Lola, did not realize that, will not count in the future!
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Skillie, hop on board for a new year slimdown!
Weight this morning: 165.5 lbs
Am drinking my hot water with lemon juice.
brkfst: 2 eggs, 1 toast w flax oil and also ground flaxseed (toast was spelt, but tomorrow I will use millet-rice, I have both in freezer) (I shall try harder to avoid bl. dots)
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Ok, always up for a challenge.
In South Africa the weigh is measured in KG's
My staring weight is 65.7kg, here I said it ou in the open   WOW
Breakfast was 50 g oats with gojiberries and blackstrap molasses and tea. Will ake a litre of Carbonated Filtered water with added lemon slices as well as a salad with turkey to work for lunch.


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good morning!
brk: ground flaxseed, 2 eggs, 1 sl. millet toast with flax oil. rooibus tea.
weight: 165.2

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I'll post weight when I get home from vacation. Wish I could eat fish; tried to make myself eat it. But absolutely hate the taste, smell and texture, so gave up on that. Not doing fish or daily grains per SWAMI but am easily meeting veggie and fruit portions. Think I will count carbs when I get home, about 60 gms a day, within  my SWAMI food list. For fruits, could eat  an assortment of berries and grapefruit. For veggies will change around carrots, parsnips, sweet potato, beets and peas (carby veggies), with all the healthy greens  and radishes that are low in carbs. Will only add rice a couple of times a week. Should be enough carbs to give energy and keep from getting sick. Since I started adding more fat to my diet belly is dissappearing and a waist is trying to appear. I know I will eat some bad things on vacation ( am planning on it), so will have to knock-out craving quickly when I get home, to get back on track.

P.S. Wish I had bought more cranberries and froze them, put away about 12 lbs. Not sure if you can still get them?


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Jan 01,2010-313.6 will weigh in tomorrow for what I lost in a week.
Jan.08,2010-303.9 yahoo!

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an amazing weight loss, g'sue!!
welll, I don't know why but I gained: 166.2! (a whole pound....gulp!) ...shouldn't weigh every day.
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Thank You, I found once a week is good for me, but especially in the beginning I have to admit to an extra weigh in the first week. lol
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can't help myself now...I'm obsessed with weighing everyday, even though I should go with once a week. I guess right now I need the feedback. I'm desperate. But today was not pretty. 166.6. I'm not really going down, am I? (however before we started this I was at 169) so I'm still generally on the move downward. You see, last night...(here goes we went to friends' for dinner. One of the worst scenarios. You have no control, you can't even order. But luckily, they had a great dinner for my diet:
steak, fresh fruit salad, asparagus, and assorted other things like cashews, brie, wine, chocolate. I ate some cashews, had a glass of wine, but left the rest alone. So, mixed success.
Tonite I am the hostess for another couple. Making slowcooker short ribs with carrots and onions, steamed collards, and green salad with pears. (some bl dots in there, and I will mostly eat around them)
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Today, seems a bit hard for me.  I feel very alone, today,and am striving to stay busy. I had my three meals, already, plus 4 Chinese Almond Cookies (that alone must be a 1000 calories, I don't know)  I could have stopped at three, was full, but didn't.  Why do we do this to oneself?  Well, Head Up, Onward and Downward, I will do it!
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It is hard, G'sue! some days are harder than others. I really can't even eat one cookie lately. the sugar in it makes me want to eat everything in sight. When I blow it it's often on almond butter. Once I get started I keep wanting more. (I love that stuff). but at least it is a beneficial food.
Still, we know it is high calorie.
Find a good book to curl up with. Good luck, and keep the faith!

Hey, come on down, guys, join us in our quest to lose in 2010! You don;t have to post your weight if that is too scary, just check in about your food choices.
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uh oh! Things are not going so well here! We had friends over and it was just too difficult. First of all, there are the obligatory snacks before dinner....goat cheese and rice crackers. Fine. But once you have some of those with wine you practically don't need dinner! Then comes dinner...short ribs braised with carrots onions, etc. (the etc. is potatoes). I cooled off the juices until I could scoop off the cooled fat before I thickened it with tapioca flour. Wait! What am I saying???? This is not how a dieter should be eating!!! (I guess I use company as an excuse)... However, I did my best, friends, I did my best!! But we're not mentioning my daily weight today! What a trial!
I did not eat potatoes.....
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Give yourself a pat on the back!  You did great for having company over.  Relax, take it one day at a time.  Like you said and I say.

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my weight is playing havoc on me , I am at 66.1kg this morning. I honestly do not know where it came from. Had little time to eat on Saturday during the day  and had a protein shake for breakfast some nuts and beef with onion for lunch and pecorino cheese grated onion and turkey slices and rice crackers for dinner. Went for a long run 1hr45min on Sunday. Had a protein shake and cranberries for bfast nuts for a snack and Chicken, pumpkin and rice noodles for lunc and then the cheese and turkey thing for dinner. I expected to have lost, but not this body of mine!!Have you girls tried cooking pumpkin with agave and then adding cinnimon and ginger for taste. It was yummee.
Jayneeo you did well with all the social gatherings,I am weak when it comes to socialising.

Geminisue, you are doing very well with your weigh loss, please share your secret with us.


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I joined Sparks and I record every meal right after I eat it, I try and stay in the calorie range they chose for me, (I am working on a 50# weight loss by June 30th, than continuing on from there)  I follow the gatherer diet, know, better than before.  I, also gave up ordering pizza into my home that is my resolution from know on.  Besides that I was mainly eating the topping and leaving most of the crust, but never gave the cheese any thought, or the calorie and sodium level of my choices) so glad I gave it up and am able to stick to it.  One of the teams I joined was the Christian One and it has helped me to remember to turn myself over to God and to do what I feel he wants me to do with my food,so I am making better choices.  Like do I eat a almond cookie to raise my glucose level? No I ate pumpkin with ricotta cheese, black strap molasses in it and it was so good and it worked.  I can't exercise much at all because of my health and a new pain I have, so I try to do a few minutes at a time, when I feel up to it, and I make more trips around the house, when feasible.  Sometimes, I just do isometrics from my lift chair and I just seen a new one today and that was to hold weights in each hand, and do shoulder shrugs, 10-12 repetitions,
at least two times.  So I will give that a try, and see how it goes. They say do with good posture and shoulders back,  I have to remember good posture!  It helps the pain level.
Mainly just stay focused and do what were taught, eat what were suppose to eat, enjoy life and get some exercise in.  
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Good plan, G'sue!
Skillie, good to hear from you! Not a lot of veggies or fruits in your menu. Try cooked collards! Don't know why but I love them! They are pretty filling, for a leafy veg. I cook them whole, just rinse and put in a big pot, add a half c. of water . Slow boil....very slow, at some point (it doesn't even matter how long) cover and turn heat off. It' not spinach (which you cook briefly)...it can take longer cooking, that;s why I say time doesn't matter...longer, shorter......drizzle with evoo and enjoy!
Anyway.......let's keep at this! It helps!
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Fruits are not one the favorite things for me to eat. I like the watermelon and pineapple and berries are fine, I just dont seem to have time to fit them into my daily schedule. I know it sounds silly but really my days pass very quickly at work.They seem to think that because they pay me they can keep me very busy all day  just joking!! I fit the nuts in as a midday snack before lunch and I am adding cranberries to my oats for breakfast. And I know Geminisue has told me previously that fruit juice are not really allowed, but this is the only way I get close to fruits is by drinking a glassful after excersize in the evening. I have cut down gsue  after your advise.I do add currents to the nuts and linseeds.I hope that this will make up for some of the fruits I need. Today for lunch I am having a piece of chicken with a cannelini bean salad made with bell peppers, parsley, onion and seasoned with lemon juice, olive oil, cayene pepper and sea salt.


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Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 5:26pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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the lunch sounds great, Skillie!
Last night I really blew it...popcorn at the movies! DH bought a large one.....what could I do?
But nonetheless, I had my lemonwater this morning and a T. of flax.
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Skillie
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Well I am off on a cruise for the whole of next week, and this means food is available all day that I really have no control  of, except what I put into my mouth. I suppose I will be back to tell you about all the yummi foods I had and complain about the weight gain, but how often do you get the opportunity to go on a luxury cruise liner.  
I will tell you all about it when I get back. Keep on track for my sake as well please


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Friday, January 15, 2010, 5:03pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Enjoy......
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geminisue
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Enjoy and tell us about it when you return.  
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well, G'sue, how's it going? I am trying....really. But trying only keeps me from gaining, and the idea is to lose!
I guess its because my habits are.....drinking wine with dinner or after....(trying not to)
eating toast and rice (trying not to)
eating bits of chocolate (trying not to).........
but I am grateful that I am at least trying with those things instead of just going for it!
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geminisue
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Right know I'm dealing with some stress in my life, and that is not good for me, it exhaust me, and makes me sad.  I ate too much flax seed yesterday, so was blocked up this morning, so I will wait until I have an outcome of waste material, before I weigh.  Hopefully in the AM  I ate all my fruit servings today plus a few extra grapes, so well see how it goes. lol

I'm glad your trying to, an effort is what it is all about, we know what we need to eat we just have to figure out how we want it and with what ingredients in and around it.  Then were all set.

I enjoyed meatloaf made with ground sirloin for dinner with asparagas and spinach and grapes, also had green tea with lemon.

I can't wait til tomorrow I'm going to have salmon and that's my favorite meal, I sometimes think I crave it or need it.  So it must be necessary.  
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A friend made a delicious salmon dinner for me last night....I need to learn how to make it that good! She drizzled olive oil and sesame seeds over it when it was done.
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