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Debra+
Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 5:58pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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As jeanb says...one avoid...one dress size.

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Hey Skillie...it is the seeds that you want so that you can grind them yourself.  It is very easy.  Put about half a cup of whole flaxseed in a blender/bullet/coffee grinder. You need an appliance that has the blades sticking up.  Grind until desired consistency and voila.   Freshly ground flaxmeal.  

Debra



Actually, this is not true.  If you have only the ones with the blades sticking up that is great, but a bullet or something of that nature has an attachment that has a flat blade.  When went to my hubby's sister for Thanksgiving she showed me that using the flat blade works better.   It grinds it up real nice and you can put a little bit more in the container at a time.

Lloyd...not to worry about leaving the liquids out.  First time I doubled the recipe I forgot to double the liquids and it turned out pretty good.      ...denser  

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Hi Debra, thank you for the advise. I did grind the seeds and baked the muffins,they came out very yummi, I certainly will be makeing more of them. The taste was quite acceptable to me although the Hubby thinks it is not tasty enough, but he has a sweet tooth and is not impressed with haveing to eat the non sweetened and rice flour type of foods that I am producing lately. He is also O+, but does not want to be Genotyped, so sorry for him, but now he has to eat what ever is on my Gatherer diet. HIE HIE, he does not even realize I am preparing foods from my diet, except when I bake something with the rice flour and cant understand why the pasta has become so white lately of coarse I have bought paste made with rice flour and serving it without the usual white, cheese sauce.  Otherwise I am feeling great, this is my second week on the swami-gatherer diet and I have so much energy I actually jogged away for my hubby on an uphill last night and he could not believe it as I am usually so slow on uphills. According to the scale I have not lost weight, ,but I am sure that my clothes are fitting looser and this is all that matters to me.


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Skillie- Your doing a great job and you will continue to see a difference and feel a difference. Enjoy, it can even be fun.
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Thank you Geminisue, I hope you have been feeling fine lately It is week-end again so I will be experimenting with some new recipies. I still crave sugar, but read on an old tread that Dr D recomended drinking glutimine, this was a surprise as I stopped drinking it when I started the diet because I was unsure if it was permisable. It is refreshing to see that so many other people have asked the important questions allready. So now I can incorporate it again as I used to drink it for extra energy while excersizing.


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Hey Skillie...glad you enjoyed the muffins.  Yes, I have a sweet toothed hubby also.  He does good sometimes and other times it's like he can't get enough sugar.   To a 'certain' extent he does BTD...doesn't want to be GT typed or secretor test tested either.   He is an A.   We 'think' he is a teacher.   He is where he is at and I am where I am at.   Baby steps...sometimes they are so little.   

Your hubby notices you running uphill and you have soooooo much energy.   He is noticing...and that is the main thing.     Gatherer diet for an O is waaaaaaaay better than the 'normal' food guide.  

'Can't understand why the pasta has become so white lately'...I just love this one.   Keep it up.

Debra


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  Started my day with hot water & lemon.  Then made breakfast : ghee, left over steak, portobello mushroom, onion, and red pepper.  All sauteed in frying pan.  We were heading out of town for the day & I ended up putting my breakfast in a wide mouth thermos as we were running late and ate it about an hour into our travels.(8:00).  Lunch: left over baked salmon and cut up veggies ( peppers, turnip, celery, daikon radish, snap peas & cherry tomatoes) and a cup of ban-cha green tea.  Driving home at 5:30 pm I had some cut up grapefruit pieces.  When I got home I had the rest of the cut up veggies from lunch, a cup of Yerba Mate tea.  Then later in the evening I had cut up pieces of fresh pineapple, and then ended up having 2 choc-cherry Unibars.  Should have had some more protein when I got home so I wouldn't have been craving something sweet.
  I've been down in Victoria helping my mom for the last 2 weeks and I did pretty good with my compliance, but I did get a little off and now have to get back on track.



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BCgal- you should be proud on what you have accomplished, caring for your mother and still taking care of you, that is a great accomplishment in this day and age.  I'm proud of you, keep up the good way of living.  
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Brought it out of hiding.  Guess I have to keep posting to keep it up front,  I need some help.  Come on, other Gatherers, I eat a lot of repetitive meals, I live alone, and not all that picky.  I just want to get the diamonds in and hopefully, will start losing again, but I must say I went couple of days without veggies, and got very weak,  ate two cups two hours apart with beef and did I ever feel better.  I actually thought I was getting sick but everything was normal for me, so thought .
Eat my veggies, and it worked.  Well maybe the beef helps too. and the great northern beans and butter beans, sure kept glucose balanced. That is for sure.

How do you eat your chocolate?  I'm allowed 1 teaspoon a day, been making cocoa with water and molasses, on some days, but might need a new idea, soon.  What about brownies? lol
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wouldn't be surprisd if you could do brownies, Gsue! There was a recipe going around called Miracle Brownies....you could google it, it was flax brownies.
Thanks for getting this thread up to the top where I found it! Yay!
I need the stimulus too! This morn I had scottish oats with a wee spot of cream and stevia! Then I scrambled eggwhites to have with it. Lunch was turkey meatloaf leftovers with vegan mayo and lettuce. Oh yes, I made a blk. dot sweet potato salad! simple and yummy: half c. cooked sw. p. with vegan mayo, salt, and curry pwdr! Love it!
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Hi There, I have been feeling tired since yesterday, did not feel like getting up this morning and this is not a natural feeling for me as I do not have this type of problem. Does anybody think I am doing something wrong. Have been eating most of the foods as swami suggests except the 6 portions of veggies per day I seem to manage about 3. And on the cheeses about half the portion, although last week I had no cheese till Friday. The 3 portions of fruit should not be a problem as I have never been much of a fruit eater and would rather drink a pure fruit juice than eat fruit which I have been doing.At least one glass per day. The exscersize is no new addition to my daily routine.
Had 50g of cooked oats with cinnamon , honey , goji berries and currants for breakfast.
Snack of 1/2 cup trail mix
Lunch 1 egg, Feta cheese , herb salad mix
Dinner Lamb tjops, sweet potato, zuchinni and basmati rice.

Hope you all have a great day.


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   For supper I sliced up some left over lamb, and steamed some butternut squash; added ghee, curry powder & sea salt.  I finally managed to get to the gym yesterday morning. I've been out of town so much this summer & fall that I'd gotten away from it.  Since the winter snow usually keeps us pretty close to home, I expect to be able to get back into a regular routine this winter.   I really need it to keep my liver happy.  It's acting up again and I know that the morning walks on the treadmill will get it back in order.  The guy I go to for Live Blood Cell Analysis wants me to do a couple 2 day juice fast over the next few months to give my liver a break.  I'm trying to get myself prepared for that.  Was going to do the juice for Sat. & Sun. but my husband wants us to up in the bush on Sun. to help a friend get wood & I'll be too cold if I'm just doing juice so I may wait till Monday to start.



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Skillie, were not suppose to be drinking fruit juices, except as a beverage, I think 2 -8 oz portions a day, but that includes our green tea and other mentioned beverages, too.

I think it is much better to eat our fruit, as the fruit juice plays with our glucose in our bodies, and raise it a lot, (every 4 oz is a fruit serving, when it comes to raising glucose ,would raise 40 -50 in about 20 minutes)

BC please read above. You need protein and fat to cut the amt. of the raise.
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Hi! I'm new to the diet but when I read my recommendations I discovered that I shouldn't eat sugar, aspartame or sucralose... anybody knows with what I should sweeten my foods???
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agave nectar, vegetable glycerine, and any other sweet mentioned in your list

those not listed, but in other GT lists mean you can consider them neutrals.


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Hi there  I hope everybody had a good week-end. Todau I will be haveing 1 boiled egg, tomato 50g pecorino cheese and a slice of Italian bread that I baked over the week-end with brown rice flour. It came out as a very heavy bread althoug the recipe said it should be a light bread.

Lunch is some left over Chicken stirfry with good veggies like clelery, green pepper , carrots, green beans, mushrooms.

Snack on trail mix, which is the only new  veggie I love .
I make myself a litre of filtered water to which I add two sliced of lemon and 2 mint leaves. I have this every day.

Dinner will be turkey and basmati rice with peas and sweet potato.

I have picked up a few oz's and am worried that my weight may be creeping up the weight ladder and not down.I have cut out all avoid's, although chocolate still keeps on beckoning me, my weakness, the 3 teaspoons a day is just not enough Is there a specific type of chocolate that we are supposed to eat??

I would still love to get my hands on a nice bread recipe, is there a recipe that would bake a bread that closely resembles a nice white (wheat) bread that is baked with our compliant flours please help if you have any suggestions.


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Hi there  I hope everybody had a good week-end. Todau I will be haveing 1 boiled egg, tomato 50g pecorino cheese and a slice of Italian bread that I baked over the week-end with brown rice flour. It came out as a very heavy bread althoug the recipe said it should be a light bread.

Lunch is some left over Chicken stirfry with good veggies like clelery, green pepper , carrots, green beans, mushrooms. Sounds good

Snack on trail mix, which is the only new  veggie I love What sort of veg is this? Our trail mix here, is dried fruit with nuts etc I make myself a litre of filtered water to which I add two sliced of lemon and 2 mint leaves. I have this every day. Good going

Dinner will be turkey and basmati rice with peas and sweet potato. Do you manage to lose eating two lots of carbs in one meal
I have picked up a few oz's and am worried that my weight may be creeping up the weight ladder and not down.I have cut out all avoid's, although chocolate still keeps on beckoning me, my weakness, the 3 teaspoons a day is just not enough Is there a specific type of chocolate that we are supposed to eat?? Mine too Very addictive once you give in
I would still love to get my hands on a nice bread recipe, is there a recipe that would bake a bread that closely resembles a nice white (wheat) bread that is baked with our compliant flours please help if you have any suggestions.
Whereabouts in SA are you?  I've been to Joburg...loved it;)
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Skillie, your meals sound delicious, but not "weight-loss" meals....you could lose the peas and sw. potato for awhile, instead have spinach, zuccini, and salad with your meat.....
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http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/recipedepictor7x.cgi?82

try substituting if necessary


I have settled for focaccia type bread.....never goes wrong!


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Hallo Possum. Jaynolee and Lola,

Thank you for the feedback it is greatly appreciated. I have not been thinking my food choices through properly it seems that I have been spoiling myself with too much carbs, just because the veggies do not fall under the carbs list I assumed they are ok. I will take greater care from now on.

The trail mix is nuts and dried fruit and I love the carob!!!!!!!!just like chocolate yum yum..

Lola i will be baking the bread you suggested and will give you some feed-back

Thank you all ...

Geminisue have you been ok??


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Lola- I'm also going to try your bread, and will also try flaxseed crackers.

Has anyone heard of baked cheese, seen on tv today where some male cook took a cheese (cows milk cheese) but sure others may work, also. and grated it, onto cookie sheet (to look like pancakes)on a plastic looking sheet that went on top of cookie sheet, sure parchment paper should work also.  Bake at 350 for five minutes.  When it came out, it looked like a lace doily from years ago.  Suggested wrapping around something to make a bend in them (like a taco) if desired, and add fillings, of choice, to top them, from salsas, to soft cheese, to marmalade.

Yes Skillie, I'm doing okay.  I realized I need my 4 cups of veggies a day to feel strength, otherwise, I feel weak, never knew what was causing it before, thought it was just my poor health, but it isn't.  So happy about that, and my health is much, much better.  Thanks, for asking.  

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I've had a full month of trying to eat from the gatherer plan, and did so most of the time and I didn't weigh myself, until this morning and I have to share I am down 7.5 lbs, and feel great about it.
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Great, Geminisue!
And good luck, Skillie!
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Thanks Jayneeo, Am doing gatherer shopping again, very soon, so all will be good in the pantry and frig, again. lol  
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I've had a full month of trying to eat from the gatherer plan, and did so most of the time and I didn't weigh myself, until this morning and I have to share I am down 7.5 lbs, and feel great about it.
Congratulations; that is really good going!!!

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