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Jumari
Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 7:00am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Thanks Lola. Now that you say that, I've noticed that my weekly red meat portions have dropped to 1 instead of three. As a teacher all I have is Lamb, Goat and Mutton as black dots anyway. So no big loss I suppose.
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Symbi
Thursday, October 8, 2009, 4:52am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Yeah! Jumari, great to know this stuff.  More Hake in the sea, good    Glad you're confident of your SWAMI now and like the food list.  That's great having Tuna and Salmon (easy to find and yummy too!)  Maybe you could search this website to see the meaning of A1 MM and A-B+, it will be interesting.

Thanks Jenny, it will take me a while to get the $ together to get any testing done unfortunately though !


INFJ ex-Ghee Whiz, GTD Explorer Sept_09 - SWAMI Mar_10

Family - O+ DH and DD (both hunter-ish)
IBS, Fibro, Hashimotos, Adenomyosis, Oral Lichen Planus, Breast Cancer, Terminal case of Optimism
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Lola
Thursday, October 8, 2009, 5:09am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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some interesting threads on MM and other homozygous types
http://www.dadamo.com/forum/archivea/admin_config.pl?read=86625


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
DNA mt/Haplo H; Y-chrom/J2(M172);ISTJ
The harder you are on yourself, the easier life will be on you!
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Squirrel
Thursday, October 8, 2009, 6:16am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Very interesting about the Explorer -> Teacher -> Explorer thing. My DH was a GTD Teacher, but when we did the SWAMI, he's an Explorer. Then we played by taking out the family and personal history, and bingo - Teacher. So the gastro stuff must be the part that tips the scale.

Re: ageing, I always tell people that if the lines are smile lines, I don't care how many show.

"Computer says No"


Note to self: I am me, and also an O-nonnie - I'm allowed not to fit the mould.
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Jumari
Thursday, October 8, 2009, 6:22am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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5. With regard to many of these factors, it is not as important to determine if you are A1 or A2 as much as it is to determine your MN status. Type A's with the MM blood group will have even more likelihood of their immune system being derailed by blood-group-like tumor antigens.

Bad news for type A? Not really. I wish I understood other disease succeptibilties in other blood groups as well.


Pretty clear message isn't it.

With regards to me beign confident with my Swami. Well, I just realized that if I change my Myers-Brigg setting I'm back to being an explorer. So I have to make sure about chosing the right columns. There are a couple of them that I am a little unsure of. Like I like to party but I also derive energy from being alone and love to meditate.

But for now. My best attempt at it puts me down as an ESTJ. I've done it over and over again and this one is the one I seem to end up with the most. But I still find it hard to believe that mental inclinations and or preferences / characteristics have such a high impact on Genotype.

The other thing that keeps me returning to Explorer is ticking the liver problems box in the Health History section. This is one that Dr. Mallia said I should tick after my Bio magnetic test. He even made me tick the chronic fatigue box. Saying that he suggest that I leave that ticked for now as well.

My next blood test included some liver tests. Both my arms have been jabbed for blood now in less than a week.
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C_Sharp
Thursday, October 8, 2009, 9:41pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Teacher Rh+ Lewis: a+b-, NN,Taster
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Quoted from Jumari

With regards to me beign confident with my Swami. Well, I just realized that if I change my Myers-Brigg setting I'm back to being an explorer. So I have to make sure about chosing the right columns. There are a couple of them that I am a little unsure of. Like I like to party but I also derive energy from being alone and love to meditate.

But for now. My best attempt at it puts me down as an ESTJ. I've done it over and over again and this one is the one I seem to end up with the most. But I still find it hard to believe that mental inclinations and or preferences / characteristics have such a high impact on Genotype.


Maybe think of it the other way around. Your GenoType could influence your mental inclinations.

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To confirm ESTJ, there are several other free Myers Briggs tools on line. Perhaps try one on another site. For instance:

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp




MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.
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Cristina
Thursday, October 8, 2009, 11:31pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Jumari
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But for now. My best attempt at it puts me down as an ESTJ. I've done it over and over again and this one is the one I seem to end up with the most. But I still find it hard to believe that mental inclinations and or preferences / characteristics have such a high impact on Genotype....


I used to think the same way, but then, when I received a free Secretory IgA test by mistake, the results there showed me how stress can influence the chemical making of our body, affecting blood, organs etc. etc. etc.  Are our personalities the type that when facing things that we do not like we hold everything inside (churning in) or everything slides off without disturbing us one bit? How we behave and think all the time is molding what is happening inside ourselves.

What is first, the chicken or the egg?  It does not really matter, whether your genes make you react or act in a certain way, or our reactions or actions decide our genes, the fact is that Dr D has opened up the path to put us in control.  

Some of us maybe in a 'state of mind' all the time and it may be then easier to define us in a specific Myers group.  But, for those of us that are unsure, knowing that we can be in this or that group, is all part of being in control and acting accordingly including adapting our diet to different genotype groups (is all a label anyway).  

If personality is what makes you fall in one or other group, I'll produce lists for the probably genotype labels I may find myself in synergy with depending on the situation, and restrict myself to their specific food lists.  They (the food lists) would have been designed to ensure we get the most out of our life.





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Jumari
Friday, October 9, 2009, 11:47pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I just did the alternative test that C-sharp suggested and got ENFP instead of ESTJ.

After entering that info I'm back to Explorer.

The thing that confuses me is the fact that my personality and preferences have changed quite dramatically over the years. I was your typical fun loving and extroverted Leo. But in the last 7 or so years I have undergone a profound spiritual transformation. Since I've discovered meditation and read/listened to books by Eckhart Tolle and others, I have mellowed and my perspectives and  outlooks have changed.

Additionally, isn't it common for people to "mellow out" or sometimes become grumpy with old age. Is an old Leo who used to be the center of attention at parties now to be considered an introvert because he/she prefers to spend time alone. Do extroverts eat more than introverts? Or vice versa?

Unfortunately for me, the fact that I am of a low GT % of Either 38% Teacher or 38% Explorer. Any slight change in the Health History section will sway me one way or the other. And there are certain staple foods that move from being Superfoods to Black dots / toxins and/or the other way around.

After all the measurements and locking box info have been entered into the Swami. The only variables I have left are; Medical History, Myers-Briggs Personality type and the obvious ones such as Weight and waist measurements. So that puts a lot of weight on making the right Myers-Briggs selection.

Someone like Jenny from Canberra, who is a 70% Warrior would not be affected by her Myers-Briggs selection. She would most probably still be a warrior.

I am not for one second disputing the validity of the test and the weight it carries in determining Genotypes. I have to say that I have every confidence in Dr D, his Father and his Team and greatly appreciate and value the amount of work that went into the research, the testing and the compiling of all the info into a neat little package called Swami Xpress. It's mind blowing and ahead of its time.

From my own individual perspective, it is a gray area due to the reasons I've presented above. Would I be better off leaving it out? Or am I better off picking the one with the highest average?
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Possum
Saturday, October 10, 2009, 1:43am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh- Expluntherer... It means I'm an O...;-)
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That is perplexing & a tad frustrating Jumari...Can't answer your questions, except to agree that yes you do/can mellow out as you get older!! Things may become more settled with the maturity of years;) Whether that's hormonal (lessening of possibly the effect & security of being in a longer term relationship or something else, or more probably a combination of a number of such factors, I don't quite know
goodluck getting the answers you need...
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Jenny
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Quoted from Jumari
I just did the alternative test that C-sharp suggested and got ENFP instead of ESTJ.

After entering that info I'm back to Explorer.

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Someone like Jenny from Canberra, who is a 70% Warrior would not be affected by her Myers-Briggs selection. She would most probably still be a warrior.






Dear Jumari, do not stress about this. You are not an 'Explorer' or a 'Teacher'.

You are you, and your swami will have taken the closeness of the above into consideration, and popped up with the appropriate foods, regardless of label.
Personally i would not enter the Myer-Briggs as i have not had it done professionally.




Eating half and exercising double.
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Cristina
Saturday, October 10, 2009, 4:19am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Cristina


If personality is what makes you fall in one or other group, I'll produce lists for the probably genotype labels I may find myself in synergy with depending on the situation, and restrict myself to their specific food lists.  They (the food lists) would have been designed to ensure we get the most out of our life.



Quoted from Jumari

Unfortunately for me, the fact that I am of a low GT % of Either 38% Teacher or 38% Explorer. Any slight change in the Health History section will sway me one way or the other. And there are certain staple foods that move from being Superfoods to Black dots / toxins and/or the other way around.


I will put more effort in completing the health history section if that is what may sway me into one or other genotype.  Then produce the listing from it and compare it, as mentioned in my previous posting, to the other results produced with the Briggs input.

Or, as Jenny mentioned earlier, if the Briggs results are so closed and they are stressing you, just do not use them.  Remember, stress is the silent churning thing that we should try to keep off.

Review the situation after a while if you notice troublesome signs in your health.

What you are currently doing besides the diet with your meditation and reading, is fantastic and will help you maintain optimal health or speedy recoveries when needed.  




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