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Dr D, thanks very much for giving us hope by posting here!!
We have two summary tables going here. A summary table (currrently on reply 95) where we list typebase food items with the corresponding names used in this part of the world. The second table is a summary table dedicated to Seafood for those species popular in these areas but that have not been identified in the database yet. You find this table in posted Reply 113.
We are researching the net for scientific names and nutritional information for the local species and sometimes we have been able to match them to Typebase (then they get promoted to the first table). If no match is found they will stay in the local summary or non Typebase table. I have included a column with the posted Reply no. referencing the fish, so we can check if anyone has eaten the fish and what their effects have been.
Jenny's list is also posted here by Jumari on reply 109. Do you want us to e-mail it to you? I am not sure if we can attach files in PM, but we can certainly use normal mail.
Also, Dr D, in my search over the internet for Hoki fish, I came across a couple of links that seem to indicate that Hoki was included in your evaluations, but it is not listed in Typebase and it does not seem to list in our Swamis...? By the way for Jhon Doe, Hake was a Beneficial and Hoki a Neutral according to his published Swami Pro.
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Well, well, look what I found on the net, this may clarify and confuse us all. I think it is a real eye opener and it demonstrates the difficulty of the task ahead for all of us, but particularly for Dr D. in his quest to make sense of our sea world.
I think we can use some of this info for our summaries.
I actually did go to the Sydney fish market and found other fish that are not on the list. I had some Kingfish Sashimi which was delicious, not knowing if it is a Toxin. The other is Gem fish.
sashimi Japaneese word meaning 'Pierced body' The following link goes onto explaining how this applies to the any fish, like at the Sydney markets, here is an extract from it:
quote One possibility of the name "pierced body" could come from the traditional method of harvesting. 'Sashimi Grade' fish is caught by individual handline, and as soon as the fish is landed, its brain is pierced with a sharp spike, killing it instantly, then placed in slurried ice. unquote
Now the following link from the Australian government, department of environment identifies the Eastern Gemfish ( Rexea solandri ) with the following other names: Gemfish, Hake, King Couta, Kingfish, Silver Kingfish and Southern Kingfish. So the Kingfish sashimi you saw, could have been a confused Gemfish.
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Research on Monkfish: Typebase sci name: LOPHIUS AMERICANUS and its ITIS code is 164499 Common names listed at ITIS are : Goosefish, Monkfish http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt
Lophius Americanus is also called American Angler being part of the angler family. So, it may be safely to assume that its australian counterpart should be found in the same family, the Lophiidae family.
All we need to confirm now is if this goosefish is edible like its american counterpart.
There are many other fishes we call Monkfish in Australian, like the very popular Angel Sharks, but they are not the same family as the one in typebase.
So, who knows Jumari, maybe the Monkfish you took home was not the one intended to be
For the time being this one goes on both tables with a warning to await confirmation or report findings here.
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Also, Dr D, in my search over the internet for Hoki fish, I came across a couple of links that seem to indicate that Hoki was included in your evaluations, but it is not listed in Typebase and it does not seem to list in our Swamis...? Hoki is the one fish that is very affordable here in NZ so I buy it a lot...Its also a wonderful fish & has a mild to non "flavour" & a nice texture... so really hope it is good for type O's...
Thanks heaps Cristina & all you others for all your work... (didn't want to individually list you all, in case I forgot someone )
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that would be in your swami
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Good work everyone! Thanks! Going through the thread again and trying to complete some unfinished items. It hurts my head to try and keep up with all on here though and keep my kid busy at the same time!
Agaricus bisporus Extract From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
Agaricus bisporus—known variously as the common mushroom, button mushroom, white mushroom, table mushroom, portobello mushroom, crimini mushroom, Swiss Brown mushrooms, also known as Cremini, Italian Brown, Italian mushroom, Roman Brown mushrooms, or cultivated mushroom —is an edible basidiomycete mushroom native to grasslands in Europe and North America. A. bisporus is cultivated in more than 70 countries.[1]
I was wondering if Champignons were okay to eat, we get canned here in Australia alot. So I looked at a few websites with pictures of mushrooms including http://www.foodsubs.com/Mushroom.html. When I looked it up in the Typebase (http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?502) I found that the french name for white mushroom is Champignon so I guess they are just small white mushrooms. That may be helpful to someone though not aussie specific.
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Thank you everyone for your hard work researching and compiling. Great Link Cristina about the fish names changing http://www.fishvictoria.com/pyoursay/tales/020521name.php We're up against marketing wizards here and different names in different states, what are fish, criminals?
Jenny you were very bold to test the paw paw, thanks. Everyone is working so hard on this. Sorry not much from me lately, busy with my little one at home at the moment.
Good research on the Barracuda Cristina.
Did some searching of the Dadamo website for Barramundi: Found this old post from the blood type forums.
"Giant sea perch? 'Lates calcarifer?'
Posted By: ^heidi^ O+ ns iNFj Date: Tuesday, 18 December 2001, at 12:37 p.m.
In Response To: barramudi (ROSIE 'downunder' A- ? sec nearly 30)
If that's what "barramudi" is, then I would think it is at least
neutral for As. Freshwater and sea perch are listed as good for both
Good Idea Cristina. Sea Bream I've been eating (was frozen from NZ) is a Super Bene for explorers and certainly feels like it. It must be equivalent.
Sorry it's actually called Ocean Bream aka tarakihi aka jackass morwong ! Maybe that's a good nickname for me now for getting the name wrong and trying to research this!
This is what it says on the label (1 advantage of buying frozen fish!):
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"Ocean Bream (nemadactylus macropterus) is also known as larakihi in New Zealand. It is caught all year round (sic) with the largest catches from February to June. The Flesh is whitish and has a firm texture. It is suitable for most methods of cooking, including grilling, steaming and frying. (It also has a picture very much like on the Fishbase page)"
(Note: distribution Indo-Pacific: St. Paul and Amsterdam islands in the Indian Ocean, southern Australia, including Tasmania, and New Zealand. Southwest Atlantic: southern South America.)
Sea or Ocean Bream (any kind of bream) are not listed as named in the D'Adamo Typebase. Sea Bream is listed in the Genotype Diet book though. Searching the Dadamo site reveals Sea Bream is a common name for Porgy http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?322
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"Widely known as sea bream, there are many different varieties of this fish family in the United States and around the world. The most popular United States porgy is the scup, which is found in Atlantic waters. Porgies have a firm, low-fat flesh with a delicate, mild flavor. Although some grow to 20 pounds, most fall into the 1/2- to 3-pound range. They're available fresh and frozen, and are generally sold whole. The porgy is suitable for almost any method of cooking, including baking, grilling and frying."
The picture of the Porgy is quite different from the Tarakihi, though similarities in the body, different fins and eye location.
Also found a different Typebase Entry for Scup with similar information, but it's different beneficially for different bloodtypes than the Porgy. http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?514
I see that Bream is a general term for many species of fish. It is used to describe fish that are narrow, deep bodied species. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bream Also, "The term sea bream is sometimes used for porgies (family Sparidae) or pomfrets (family Bramidae)"
Looking at pomfrets there are many species under there not ours though, they are found in the Atlantic, Indian, and Pacific Ocean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomfret. Porgies look more similar to the fish but are in a totally different family so unfortunately, they don't seem to be related at all.
I was about to say this is another unknown fish as the Sea Bream mentioned must be the porgy. But checking the SWAMI for John Doe (created July 07) lists only Porgy (also scup, no pomfret). However, the sample SWAMI for Jane Public (created March 0, lists both Sea Bream AND Porgy (and no pompfret, also lists scup (the most popular porgy type in a different category to porgy!). So I guess Sea Bream must have been added later but not put in Typebase and could be many species of fish!!
Cannot say if this is the Sea Bream listed in the GTD unfortunately. Can say I've had no bad effects from eating it though!
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Great work Ghee Whiz, studying your info to update the tables. Keep them coming fellow researcher! I feel with you regarding those beautiful boundles of joy, our kids, grandkids. I had my grandkids quite a bit this fortnight with the school hols, so although my PC is on 24/7, I only got to work on it very little during the day. Great progress last night though, got carry away and stay on all night!!! Dr D' Protein blend for A's that I had for breakfast yesterday for the first time has done some magic trick, that and the fact that Dr D himself took time to post in our thread, spurred me on. I slept most of the morning though. Do not worry, I do not plan to do this again! the beauty of not having to go to work, you are your own time keeper ...
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Extracted the Fish and Seafood category from the equivalent table to make them easier to manage. We now have two dedicated tables for Fish, the equivalent and the local one. Thanks everyone for these helpful suggestions and postings. Great work!
TypeBase Fish and Seafood Choices Summary No 1
Typebase
AU/NZ Equivalent
Comments
Fish & Seafood
Abalone (Haliotus Tuberculata )
Paua ((Haliotidae Iris)
NZ only - Reply 99
Abalone (Haliotus Tuberculata )
(Haliotidae)Abalone,Blacklip(rubra),brownlip (conicopora) or Greenlip (laevigata)
(ex Muttonfish ) - Reply 99
Anchovies (Engralis Mordax )
canned Anchovies
Choose the canned european variety only (Engraulis encrasicolus)
Atlantic Cod(Gadus morhua)
Atlantic Cod
Seafood Services Australia Reply 153
Barracuda
Short finned (barracuda,pike,snook)
Small barracuda, See Reply 105
Bluefish (Pomatomus saltatrix)
Taylor
Seafood Services Australia See Reply 153
Bullhead(Ictalurus Nebulosus)
NZ Bullhead (Ameiurus nebulosus)
NIWA Atlas of NZ Reply 157
Butterfish
Butterfish
Banded Scat, Barred Scat, Butterfish, John Dory, Johnny Dory, Old Maid, Southern Butter-fish, Striped Butterfish. See warning on Reply 68 about toxic substitutes
Good work everyone! ... I was wondering if Champignons were okay to eat, we get canned here in Australia alot. ...
I used to eat those tin mushrooms all the time, sauteeing them with cream and onion ... the bad old days. Today I concentrate my efforts on the fresh varieties, there are always so many there! But, we not always can get things fresh and it is good to have some canned reserves in the pantry. Well now we can do it with piece of mind because I find this website too that seems to confirm that the champignon mushromms are indeed the same as the white mushrooms depicted in typebase. They have the same Sci name.
Read on the mushromm descriptions from this 'How to grow, harvest etc' course on mushrooms:
Does everybody agrees that the mushroom terminology in aussie/nz land is the same as the Typebase (Oyster, Shiitake, Enoki, Straw, etc mushrooms), therefore there is no need to post to these tables? We are just concentrating on what is different, something that is here and it is not there (in the Typebase) or it is here under a different name and we are trying to match. Any other mushrooms you came across that we do not know how to place? There are a couple in Typebase like the mitaake and black trumpet that I have never seen here, but then I have not visit any asian markets or specialty stores lately, that is the best bet to find these. Call to editors - Check Summary 3 Reply 131
Yeah I agree that the names of mushrooms seem to be the same as in the USA (with relief) . Only bought it up on here again in case other people using champignons have wondered where they come under. I get them canned sometimes very convenient. Of course fresh is best!
I've seen Mitaake mushrooms around.
Cristina - If they're alright on your SWAMI you could still saute them with Ghee or compliant oil with onion couldn't you? As a side dish of course.
Thanks for adding them to the list, reckon we can leave mushrooms alone now!
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GW, Your pickup on the champignons was excellent and it is on the table (not under fruit anymore, I do not think anyone notice though!). I was just referring to all the others, the terminology seems the same, so as you said, we can all breath now and close the mushy issue. Unless of course, somebody else has something different to tell us.
The bad old days was referring to the bad old full fatty pasteurized, homogenized who know what else, full of additives cream .. Spoiling a perfectly good canned product.
Yeah I agree that the names of mushrooms seem to be the same as in the USA (with relief) . Only bought it up on here again in case other people using champignons have wondered where they come under. I get them canned sometimes very convenient. Of course fresh is best!
I've seen Mitaake mushrooms around.
Cristina - If they're alright on your SWAMI you could still saute them with Ghee or compliant oil with onion couldn't you? As a side dish of course.
Thanks for adding them to the list, reckon we can leave mushrooms alone now!
Where did you see Maitake mushrooms? I've been looking for them for years!!!
Where is the 'list' I can use to include some Aussie vernacular with the UK-English?
I would be more than happy to send my basic fish list but I don't think I can attach anything via the personal message system, but would need an email address to send to.
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Fell off the perch!! 
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