great work Lola!! Thanks for doing that! Nice to know we can get some of that info somehow.  

Thanks heaps for explaining Lola, but what is bumped?  Is that keeping a thread active?  Don't they archive any recent threads any more?

Also, forgot to say Cristina, I find it handy to search the forum for my own threads, cos I have CRAFT disease and often can't remember the name of a thread that I posted something on (and often go off topic   ) like now.

Yes, I already tried that symbi, but still could not find it.  Maybe it got bumped, or I dreamed it all??!!  

Quoted from Symbi

I do that too but it doesn't always bring up recent things on the forum for some reason    

Several reasons:

Not all forums on this site are indexed by Google.

Google only crawls sites periodically. So something may be posted on a site for a while before Google includes it.

Google can also choose to exclude content. Some of the reasons google might choose to exclude content are: complaints, it decides it might contain malicious software, or it decides you are running a link farm or otherwise attempting to cheat on its page ranking scheme.

Use my Okara to make a lentil and soy loaf for lunch/dinner:

2 cups Okara
2 cups soy milk (home made)
2 cups oat bran
1/4 tempeth block chopped with some parsley, turmeric tube, french onion (shallots), 1 clove garlic, basil, about 2 or 3 leaves of swiss chard, some tamari sauce and salt to taste.

Mix everything together, put in loaf pan in moderate oven for about 40minutes. Served with home made pesto (basil, olive oil, walnut oil, pinenuts, parmesan).  DH, DS and I had lunch on this and still have about half left over for dinner.  Great, I do not have to cook much tonight.

We had lunch at about noon plus 30minutes.  We are planing to go for a walk later this afternoon 4:00pm and then have dinner, but now I am thinking, if it will be better to have dinner at about 4:00pm and go for a  walk at about 4:30pm.  We need to be home by 6:00pm to secure the chickens and fish for the night! or they may end up as pythons snacks!!

BTW, we already went for a walk this morning, but we are working towards increasing the activity to two brisk walks a day, since the gym thingy does not seem to work often enough (due to not getting there often enough and I am paying weekly fees for it!!!!!!!)  We have been reading the Cardiovascular and Diabetics 'Fight It' series books and physical activity is very important!!  DH with high bp and maybe cholesterol  and all.  My cooking takes those protocols into account, although Parmesan SF for us, is an avoid for those protocols.  Once we get the definite test results this week, I'll removed it from the menu if necessary, in the meantime, yummy Parmesan is bene.  

Quoted from Cristina

We need to be home by 6:00pm to secure the chickens and fish for the night! or they may end up as pythons snacks!!

Just curious, how you secure the fish.

put netting and cover over the tank to stop predator getting in at night.  During the day we lift some of these for a bit of lighting and more breeze.  This is a 2500 litre tank with about 130-150 Silver Perch.  ...  

4:00pm too early to have dinner, so we went for a walk and we are back now ready for our dinner.  Feel so good!!  The shopping experience at the end of the walk with DH was so much enjoyable this time.  He was very pro what to eat or not to eat.  Lovely!!!  

Wow, that aint no little fish tank, you got some serious pets there!

Looking forward to hearing about your blood test results !  

wow! The results are back!! Went to the docs just then and I think hubby is a nonnie!!  GTG christmas shopping, but will be posting everything sometime tonight.  Will definetelly need your help to interpret a few things from the reports!!  

OK, time to report:

My results:
I am A2+
quoted from the report:

Quoted Text

ABO Blood Group Syssytem: A - A2. Possible genotypes are: A2-A2, A2-O

Cholesterol:
My cholesterol increased .6 in the last 3 months, but that is still well within the lower end of the normal range values.  
My Tri increased by .2 but still well within the lower end of the normal range values.
Because of these good results, the lab did not perform LDL, HDL tests. They considered these variations normal fluctuations for the body.
Liver enzymes:
wow! I had elevated liver enzymes 3 months ago and by just following the GTD Warrior, Swami Teacher and Warrior diets, they came down to well within the lower end of the normal range!!  All liver enzymes!!
Urea
value increased slightly but well below the half way mark of normal range.
Urate
was elevated last test, came down to within .1 of normal range!
Glucose
Was normal last test, went further down this test, still within normal range!!
Calcium
Normal last time, increased a bit this time but still well within normal range.
Alb and Glob
Alb down by 2 and Glob up by 2, both well within normal range.
Sodium, Potass, Chloride, bicarb all remained almost unchanged within normal range.

Got my doctor asking me if I was seeing a Naturopath of some sort and I said to him that no, I just get guided by Dr D's work in this forum and his published literature. I had with me the Diabetics and Cardiovascular Fight It books there to show him.  I think he was impressed with my results!!  Not bad for an overweight (on its way to skinny kingdom  of course!! ) senior lady!!

Thank you, thank you Dr D and this forum for crossing my path and showing me the way to look after my body, by just eating right!!  

And to next post for DH's results ...

I want to finish reporting here before I update my Swami.

DH results:

ABO: A rh (D) Positive
Phenotype: A2+ it is A1+ !!!!
Lewis: Lea+, Leb-
MN: M+, N-

So, am I correct in interpreting these results as:
A1 plus, non secretor, M. Please confirm.

Glucose:
Was slightly over normal last test, came down to the very top of the normal range.  So, still not out of the woods, but good news is that it is on its way down!
Cholesterol:
increased by .4 to above 6, elevated for high risk patients, but just inside the normal range otherwise.
Trig increased slightly but within normal range.
Now the bad news come in the further analysis of his cholesterol:
HDL decreased to below normal. It was just within the range last time.
LDL increased to well above normal.  It was already high last time.
Total/HDL ratio increased which is not good.
Anyway, although these results are not ideal, they are not that bad to require lipid lowering therapy, so that is good news.  We can improve these values with the diet, once we establish what he is (Swamiwise).

He did not get a report on all the other clinicals (liver enzymes, sodium, urate, etc, etc), like me, because unlike me, his previous tests were within the normal range and did not warrant re-checking them so soon.

Got to understand that our Medicare system pays for all these tests, we did not have to pay anything, not even the visit to the doctor!! I would let you know if we get hit by any bills, but our understanding is that our health care system pays.  When I asked our doctor, why DH did not get a report on all the other things, he said that for the same reason an LDL/HDL check was not done for me: Medicare will not pay for tests deemed non essential or that they have not been particularly requested by docs.  Docs try not to request too many of 'not necessary' tests, so I guess, we are blessed that our doc was agreeable to request the Lewis, MN and A subtype tests!!!  Like they say, will it strong enough, with conviction, picture it happening and it will!!!

Well, now it is time to start working on DH's Swami so he can also soon start ripening the benefits to his health by eating right!!!  

yes a nonnie!
and MM homozygous of M

Cristina, congratulations on your good lab results. Now you know your husband's blood group for sure.  Your son could be an "A" or an "O"  And yes, Lewis b-  is equivalent to "non secretor"

Quoted from Lola

yes a nonnie!
and MM homozygous of M

and me being an M+ N+ I am what?  

Quoted from Teresa S

Cristina, congratulations on your good lab results. Now you know your husband's blood group for sure.  Your son could be an "A" or an "O"  And yes, Lewis b-  is equivalent to "non secretor"

So my son could be an 'O'? That could explain his love for meat!!!

BTW, I updated my Swami with the A2 subtype and no glaring change, in fact, no changes at all!  I compared the shopping lists with my printed ones!  I already have my Swami foodlists tweaked for my type!     Too late and tired to do DH things last night, will have to somehow find the time today.  Hopefully I can get it finalized before the Christmas family gettogether tomorrow!!  

Quoted from Cristina

and me being an M+ N+ I am what?  

I took that to mean you were MN.

Enter that information in SWAMI like this:

Your MN Blood Group:---------Optional Field---------Group MM (Mary-Mary)
Group MN (Mary-Nancy)
Group NN (Nancy-Nancy)

Thanks CS, I meant if DH is 'homozygeous' of M, what do we call us the M and N positives?

Swami did bring my Warrior percentage down though, obviously it considers being an A2 not a warrior like attribute!  

Congratulations Cristina on your fixed liver enzymes and great blood restuls (jealous  ) and for pioneering the QML blood testing.  They really do it all, yeh!!!

Interesting that your hubby is a nonnie and an MM, did you suspect that?  Has he had lots of health problems?  Now wheat probably already gone?

Good how you're both A2!  That may make it easier for cooking.  From what I've heard, A2 are supposed to be able to tolerate more meat, so wonder if your values and frequencies for those went up in SWAMI?  

Your son may be a nonnie too!  There was a good thread on secretor genetics I can't find it now sorry!  

You may still get a bill from QML for some of the tests in a few weeks time (that happened to me for an advanced test once)  Won't be much anyway

Have a merry christmas!

Quoted from Cristina

BTW, I updated my Swami with the A2 subtype and no glaring change, in fact, no changes at all!  I compared the shopping lists with my printed ones!  I already have my Swami foodlists tweaked for my type!  

Nope Symbi, as posted then, my meat stayed avoid!!  ostrich, turkey and emu neutrals, that is all the meat I am allowed.  Maybe the A2 meat eating thing is more a explorer or Teacher thing?    It certainly did not affect my warrior swami list!  

All the birds that run really fast you're allowed to eat neutrally, maybe that's a built in exercise plan  

Interesting, probably your measurements, medical history and other results overturn the A2 result.  You have filled in every item in SWAMI now, well done!

It you are  M+ N- that would indicate you are MM and homozygous for M.
It you are  M+ N+ that would indicate you are MN and are hetrozygous.
It you are  M- N+ that would indicate you are NN and homozygous for N.



If people have questions on MN alleles and inheritance - here is a Charlie Chaplin quiz system explaining possible M and N allele combinations in reference to a paternity case.

http://www.mwit.ac.th/~ooy/animation3/animation1/bio202/genetics/blood%20LM.swf

Well I have seen this thread floating up and down the forum for awhile now and I had to look to see what all the hoopla was about!

It seems you have quite the personal thread going!  1600 views and 172 posts... you are rivaling our dear Ms. Peppermint Twist!!!  

Welcome wwwb, it just evolved in what it is, no plan ...   Hope you find some useful info in it too!  Pop in any time ...

I have changed values for DH, rushed through the paperwork last night and got A2 / A1 values  mixed up.    Still trying to work out with Lola the possible genotypes reported for him in the blood report:

A1-A1, A1-A2, A1-O.

Will it warrant to call the lab to confirm the values?  Trying to do a search on the net to find more info on it ...  Maybe this is one for Dr D to clarify as well?