one month ago I took swami express
let computer decide since it felt most natural and came out as a weird Gatherer/b type with quite a lots of dairy.
I was somewhat confused and surprised - since I according to book was nomad
food list was good - got chocolate back and whole fat dairy  
Some stuff matched some didn´t-

Today I decided i wanted to change serving sizes to "compute best "

- and I came out as Explorer  

Then I checked my data and started to play around a bit
decided to look at my jaw size and put as narrow ( as I should have the fist time)

and I still became explorer with quite a lot dairy  

I don´t really fit explorer-
or for that matter gatherer
so I am really surprised and confused

when I look at the food list it is ok... but...

It leaves me confused what happend between August 13 and now ?

Quoted from Henriette Bsec

I don´t really fit explorer-
or for that matter gatherer
so I am really surprised and confused

Fit?

I  look at it this way. We have to be able to define our genotype some what so labels are necessary, if SWAMI could just label it "HB at this moment" SWAMI would, but it can't it needs to " fit" you into some category/label/groove, so it does. ( The percentage thread would be good to reread)

You admitted that you did not put in the right data regarding your jaw angle so now your genetic profile (head shape is linked to disease and hereditary) essentially changed so indeed I would go with the Explorer and let the diet speak for itself over the next three months.

Gotta love the dairy!

The 6 GT labels are just a convenience when SWAMI is used since the diet is a blend made for you. I would suppose that you are close enough to the various GT's that minor changes are enough for SWAMI to 'change' your label, such as the jaw angle. You remain Henriette no matter what and that is what is important.  

Changing serving size will not alter GenoType calculations. Jaw shape will. The difference(s) between blood group possible GenoTypes is much less significant in SWAMI than in the GTD book because the book labored under the limitations of being a static media, in which case you may well be a Nomad as per GTD, but another GT in SWAMI. By the time the software calculates its further customization as per your situational specific (health history, family history, etc) and hybridizes how much of each system (BTD versus GTD) works best for you, the world of 'Gatherer' or 'Nomad' becomes somewhat arcane.

Basically you are working on the further evolution of the 'Henriette Diet.'

well first I only changed sizes of food - that is why I am surprised.
then I played around and noticed that I had put my jaw as wide it is really narrow or neutral.

I am just somewhat   now I have to change my food list again !  

I just put my data here

B
rh-
secretor


Northern European
slight taster

not caffeine sensitive
not lactose sensitive

Cranial width 27 cm
cranial lengt  31
no carabelli cusp
yes to incisor
narrow jaw or neutral  

gynic space
meso -endo
legs longer
upper leg longer
visible tendon
my fingers just touch

got white lines on left hand

left hand:
index 68 mm
ring 65
1 finger thumb whorl
2 whorl
3 whorl
4 whorl
5  ulnar loop

right hand
index 67 mm
ring 66 cm
1 whorl
2 whorl
3 ulnar loop
4 whorl
5 ulnar loop

Quoted from Dr. D

Changing serving size will not alter GenoType calculations. Jaw shape will. The difference(s) between blood group possible GenoTypes is much less significant in SWAMI than in the GTD book because the book labored under the limitations of being a static media, in which case you may well be a Nomad as per GTD, but another GT in SWAMI. By the time the software calculates its further customization as per your situational specific (health history, family history, etc) and hybridizes how much of each system (BTD versus GTD) works best for you, the world of 'Gatherer' or 'Nomad' becomes somewhat arcane.

Basically you are working on the further evolution of the 'Henriette Diet.'

Thanks   I posted while you wrote.

well I got red wine back   so I survive that I lost tomates again  
- just a bit confusing that such a small thing change everything

Well I guess I going to spend the evening putting my new foods into a new list ( in danish

Henriette Bsec,

Welcome to Explorers!  

Tea Rose

Quoted from Tea Rose

Henriette Bsec,

Welcome to Explorers!  

Tea Rose

thanks  

more power to you!

Dear Henriette,

Somehow I think being an explorer fits you.. Remember the explorer motto "I did it my way"..

I think you have your own (and wonderful) way

By the way, I think Peter's input here in this thread IS a must read. Yes, that is what SWAMI does, truly personalised diet.

We are persons, individuals, we are not labels .. In a 'static' world/media, we may need labels to differentiate. But in the real world we are what we are, and we are constantly changing (responding to environment, i.e. to what we eat, breathe, interact etc..)..

So, keep being your unique self and keep enjoying it, however it changes it's still you

Cheers,
Yaman

This is a good example of what I see Peter really trying to do in his life:  Continuing to further refine and individualize health plans so that each person has the best possible tools on the planet for attaining and maintaining the best health possible. . along with long life and happiness!  

I wouldn't worry at all about the labels, because it's only language.  Let's go with this magnificent flow!  

I can see that SWAMI factored in some Explorer foods for me even though my diet is
Teacher combined type A diet..I tend to do a lot of things "my own way" too but
I feel like a Teacher and know my diet is unlike other Teachers.

Good luck Henriette!  

Enjoy getting back your red wine and having one more new adventure on the
Henriette Diet  

For the record I have never seen a narrow jawed Nomad. At least not a very narrow jawed one. Although I do not know peoples blood types and faces as much as other people, just saying... Explorer might fit better than you think!

What is your world view? Is it receptive? I sort of wonder because that might make more sense for someone that is not caffeine sensitive. I got a B- friend typed out as Explorer and he is sensitive to caffeine but seems tolerant in world view and food. Nothing bothers him other than caffeine, but he is not eating things that could benefit him. He becomes sort of boring and does little to nothing and develops poor short term memory sometimes... He remembers wild weird details of other things though, like my grandpa Explorer.

you guys make me blush thanks

Yep I am 37 % explore
- and yes DOS I do have a receptive world view...
I´ll just enjoy that with my swami i´ve got chocolate as diamond and whole fat milk as superfood -pretty good compared to normal explorer diet.

and be exploring my new "Henriette diet"  
yep I do it my way....Yaman  

The psychologically stuf about gatherers never fitted me
I am not sweet natured with highs and downs
or an early adopterof new ideas( I make my own ideas;)
or for that matter able to concentrate long on brainwork
I change direction a lot  

A fluke happened with my SWAMI today ... you might want to check yours again Henriette.

I decided to see what it would say for me if I chose "Narrow" jaw, and it changed my genotype to Teacher!

I was reading the paragraph about Teacher percentage, and noticed that it said I had "chosen" the Teacher genotype rather than allowing SWAMI to calculate for me.

I definitely didn't choose Teacher -- I didn't change that field at all -- so I don't know how it got reset to Teacher. All I did was open SWAMI, switch my jaw measurement, then clicked the button to print out the report.

I redid my report several times after that using every possible jaw angle while making sure it said "calculate my genotype for me". It switched me back to Warrior no matter what jaw angle I submitted.

I think that after changing a field it's important to click on some neutral area outside the drop down menu--before selecting something else. I think that was mentioned somewhere on the forum. I have seen websites where if you don't do that a dropdown entry can change without your knowing it.

Chandon  and Dgale-
No change for me
unless I change my jaws to wide
and I have asked several people yesterdaty and all say I am neutral or maybe narrow.
NOT wide as I by mistake put...

Well food looks ok...
Lots of B food   and even beef and veal superfoods
- but I´ll miss some of the nice fruits and nuts  from my Gatherer swami.

Can someone tell me what a "Neutral" jaw looks like?  

I got a plastic protractor, but I think there's a better type I can use.

If an Almond jaw is 125 degrees or more, that's going to be quite the angle!  I thought I was Almond for certain because nobody I know has a jaw as wide, but with this protractor I'm wavering from 122 to 130.

I believe there s a picture of the different jaws in the gt kit, no?

Do not feel bad. I have been back and forth between Teacher, Explorer, and Warrior, way too much. Right now it is for sure between Teacher and Warrior. I am getting sodium benzoate strips to try. I can not taste the PTC ones. SWAMI swears that I am a warrior but... I am having such a hard time believing it. According to the book well I am a Teacher. The Teacher cheeses work for me, the warrior ones make me feel terrible in comparison because they cause horrible calcium issues with my kidneys. However does SWAMI know better? Yeah this can get a bit old, mean while nothing is ever normal or good with candida. Too much brain hurt for unpredictable reasons, along with other problems.

Destroyer of Smiles:

If you tell SWAMI you are a teacher, how much does your diet change?

Quoted from DoS

The Teacher cheeses work for me, the warrior ones make me feel terrible in comparison because they cause horrible calcium issues with my kidneys. However does SWAMI know better?  

What Warrior cheeses?  I get paneer and cottage..that's it.

Well I have come to the conclusion that it is
REALLY important to let the database decide[color=blue][/color] your Swami Genotype !!!

I actually think it is a bit confusing that you can choose to overrule the database- just because you "feel " that you belong to another genotype.

Since I only have 37 % Explorer in me
- I guess that is why I changed from Nomad ( based on book) to gatherer( put wrong jaw facts) and now explorer.

I have tried the regular explorer diet in 2 months
and felt absolutely lousy ...
now when I compare my new swami version it is VERY different- it is truly a Henriette version  

I used to say I was a "chocolate, dairy, egg eating" explorer - well I am now - since milk and eggyolks are superfoods and chocolate is diamond

It will be interesting making a new shopping list  

Stuck this one.   Or should I say 'stickied.'  

Debra

Quoted from Henriette Bsec

Well I have come to the conclusion that it is
REALLY important to let the database decide[color=blue][/color] your Swami Genotype !!!

I agree with you here!  

I  would NEVER have thought I was an Explorer, so I am glad I ended up letting it choose for me.  

My SWAMI is a mixture of:

BTD for Type O
GTD Hunter
GTD Explorer

It is funny but I remember saying things on this forum in the past and now I know why they didn't quite click with the Hunter Diet, things like:

     - I didn't feel the need for protein at every breakfast.  

Eggs have become a neutral for me so I eat far less of them now.  I am happy having a couple of fruits for my breakfast.

     - I am happy to go with meatless meals (Veg Protein) for a while, but then I get an overwhelming desire for a big juicy, greasy hamburger.

My plan now has far far less meat protein and more fish and veg protein which is more in line with what feels right for me.

     - I couldn't do the amount of exercise recommended for Hunters

It was too overwhelming for me to do 40 minutes everyday of intense exercise.


It all makes sense to me now that I know I am such a blend.  I love my SWAMI plan!

Tea Rose

This thread makes me both excited and scared to receive  my SWAMI!

How much of it relies on just  choosing  something ?  such as jaw description?    so where can I get help on choosing correctly once I get that??   I'm already apprehensive about making  incorrect assumptions!!

Well look carefully at the pictures showing different jaws and ask people what you look like or take a picture of you!!! and you dicide.
Maybe it doesn´t matter as much as it did to me( since I am just a 37 % explorer

or use the protractor in the GTD kit.....that gadget is accurate enough!

I redid mine and came out a gatherer (43%). Tried that diet from the book measurements and for 2 weeks and was really sick. Tried the supplements and was even sicker; found out I'm allergic to yerba mate. When I switched to the Hunter diet and supplements felt much better; after I got over the 32 blisters in my mouth ( figured it was super detox) .

Gather puts torso longer than legs which is not true, mine are equal and I'm a supertaster with very pronounceed shoveling of the upper teeth, have sharp and fairly pointy incisors. You can also see the tendons and veins in arms.  Finger prints don't match gatherer either, mine are all whorls on both hands, except one finger one each has an arch.Personality questionaire I only had 6 for a  gatherer and 21 for hunter, weird Hah!!!

Very interesting, Kitty!

I bought the Genotype book when it came out..  at the very beginning I  thought I was a Gatherer, but then I found that I was doing the finger measurements incorrectly.... I have labeled myself a Hunter now...
I have  just ordered the SWAMI and   have been reading  posts here... I got my kit out again and did my fingers and for a moment thought I was a Gatherer again...  I watched the YouTube measurement guides... did it exactly so...and I really am a Hunter, I THINK... will get the Swami to see...  I hope I am a Hunter and not a Gatherer because I  see very little on the Gatherer list that agrees with me...... but I will follow whichever..  just can't wait for the SWAMI... has it helped many of you  nail down more specific foods just for you?

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I hope I am a Hunter and not a Gatherer because I  see very little on the Gatherer list that agrees with me.

no worries, swami will give you a personalized plan, right for you.

Quoted from SheriBerry

has it helped many of you  nail down more specific foods just for you?

Yes

My Swami only had 43% as gatherer but no other percentages were given, what is the remaining 57%? The swami cut my oil down to 3 TBSP a week from 6TBSP, that really worries me. When I cut fat to 1 tsp a day on Weight Watchers the heels of my feet had cracks 1/4 deep and my hair fell out, also tired and draggy. Within a week of adding more fat back in felt much better. Many of the foods are the same with a few tweeks but some of the ones that changed to neutral; like pineapple juice and sweet potatoes make me feel the best after eating. Still have doubts about following but will give it a try. Went to bed sick last night and very bloated. Will continue to take the Hunter 3 Pack, have not felt this good or slept this well for years. One week after starting the Hunter Pack I started sleeping all night, without waking up every few hours.

Quoted from kittykar1

My Swami only had 43% as gatherer but no other percentages were given, what is the remaining 57%?

For a discussion of the percentages see this thread:

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1249043756/

Thanks C_Sharp

Quoted from kittykar1

My Swami only had 43% as gatherer but no other percentages were given, what is the remaining 57%? ... Still have doubts about following but will give it a try.

I sympathize -- I was a Hunter before Swami, now I'm an Explorer. All the advice on the board was to just suck it up and be glad.   

I'm giving it a try, too, even down to the supplements. Best of luck and please let us know how it turns out.

Going to give it my best shot but not the supps for Gatherer was allergic to the one with yerba mate tea, so will stay on the Hunter pack.

and here
What % are you?    
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1248042403/

Quoted from Henriette Bsec

Well I have come to the conclusion that it is
REALLY important to let the database decide[color=blue][/color] your Swami Genotype !!!

I actually think it is a bit confusing that you can choose to overrule the database- just because you "feel " that you belong to another genotype.

Since I only have 37 % Explorer in me
- I guess that is why I changed from Nomad ( based on book) to gatherer( put wrong jaw facts) and now explorer.

I have tried the regular explorer diet in 2 months
and felt absolutely lousy ...



now when I compare my new swami version it is VERY different- it is truly a Henriette version  

I used to say I was a "chocolate, dairy, egg eating" explorer - well I am now - since milk and eggyolks are superfoods and chocolate is diamond

It will be interesting making a new shopping list  

You must know yourself very well!
I also made the mistake of following the Explorer diet when I first got started instead of the Explorer/Teacher combo I use now that I have SWAMI. Definately better and easier!

The GenoType labels are less important with the software versus a 'hard coded' book. In SWAMI GenoType (the professional software) we've already gone to using the descriptive 'epigenetic superfamily' since that is what they really are.

......

This is interesting since I was assigned my type by the earlier newsletter adviser.. I then tried to fool around with the weight of 60 pounds less and some other things and no matter what I did - I stayed the same..  and they did not take many factors .. just a few basics..so I am glad I am not having this issue it would truly make me crazy.. bad enough I went from O to Gatherer.. I am not RIGID but I am LOYAL.. just 2 words here -but food- that would drive me nuts..    

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I was assigned my type by the earlier newsletter adviser.

are you referring to the first GTD site?
the one administered by Waterfront?

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The GenoType labels are less important with the software versus a 'hard coded' book. In SWAMI GenoType (the professional software) we've already gone to using the descriptive 'epigenetic superfamily' since that is what they really are.

The compromise concept of Genotype allows beginners to hook on to a simple, statistically valid entity.  Most people, who just need weight loss, can just work with that and gain the other benefits.  Others, often labelled as Explorers can talk out their issues, take the blood-neutral Explorer diet, or go to a fully individualized diet (in any order they like   )

I don't know if Dr. D' Adamo was tempted to make a three or four versions of the Explorer diet for the book, but keeping to the conceptual framework was a "mistake" (as my wife incorrectly states) that was required for the sake of integrity alone.

This is how new systems are created; at least one concept that is at right angles to "accepted reality" must be incorporated.  Anyone who has difficulty with what I am saying can look to the books of Edward de Bono.  He has many concrete examples that will give you an appreciation for the more abstract thinking here.

Quoted from VictoriousLiving

You must know yourself very well!
I also made the mistake of following the Explorer diet when I first got started instead of the Explorer/Teacher combo I use now that I have SWAMI. Definately better and easier!

So which one does swami call you?  I believe that is what I am also.  An Explorer/Teacher combo.  

Me, too!  I'm right on the hunter/explorer border, so whenever any small thing changes (this time, it was my most recent bloodwork) I switch status according to swami.

It actually seems like my recent switch was due to improved good health having followed the diet now for 7 months.  My allergies are way down, my bloodwork is perfect, my fingerprints are more clear, less white lines, no sugar cravings, my thyroid has stabilized... it's absolutely amazing, especially because I've had long periods of time in there where I'm not following it 100%.  

The funny thing is, I'd assumed I was - at core - an Explorer (allergies, nervous system and blood issues, nonnie) with overlaying inflammation symptoms that were consistent with Hunter.   In other words, I thought my inflammation would clear up and reveal that I was even more Explorer than before.  Instead, it seems to be the other way around.  As in, my core issues are inflammation and I had nervous symptoms and allergies on top of the inflammation, if that makes sense.

Or, I could be totally off... just my intuitive understanding.

Quoted from kittykar1

Going to give it my best shot but not the supps for Gatherer was allergic to the one with yerba mate tea, so will stay on the Hunter pack.

That was the tip off that maybe you're a Hunter.  I'm taking the Warrior Catalyst and I really love it. It gives me energy and lifts my mood!  Great stuff!   I know of someone else here who thought she was  Warrior and tried the Warrior supplements and felt terrible on them. She since found out she was a Teacher.

How has WHEAT affected   anyone I am really new ,at the diet. It  has helped me with Thyroid weight and feeling better, I have lost 12 lbs but with a lot workouts type a was rough to give up the Meat and potatoes

Quoted from Warrior430

How has WHEAT affected   anyone I am really new ,at the diet. It  has helped me with Thyroid weight and feeling better, I have lost 12 lbs but with a lot workouts type a was rough to give up the Meat and potatoes

Hi Warrior,
Welcome    Great that you're feeling better and lost weight! Not an easy feat for a Warrior. We're pretty thrifty.  I've been eating vegetarian the last week. Even though I can have fish, turkey, cornish hens, duck and veal, I wanted to see how I feel..Well except for the sore throat I caught from my little son (He's almost eighteen) I was feeling pretty good. Sometimes I really miss my mother's meat balls and sausage in her homemade spaghetti sauce...

keep up the good work!
all sound like great results, warrior~

I'd like to be a chocolate eating Explorer! I think I'm half....SWAMI has
me as 50% Teacher.

My daughter and I both did SWAMIXpress last summer. Then I did the National Geographic haplogroup test, and we both added the results to our SWAMIs. Daughter's food list changed a lot (she went from being 48% Teacher/Receptor to 47% Warrior/Reactor), but mine didn't change much at all. We're both A nonnies, but not the same GenoType. A real mind-bender.

got a male sibling to have him do your Y chromosome line?
or a son, to have him do your daughter s Y chromosome line?
or your hub, for your daughter s full report
then you d have the whole picture!

i just got my swami xpress yesterday and was SURE that i was a gatherer due to the book, but the program has me at 43% explorer.  i can't say that i'm too upset (except for the cheeses that i lost! ).  my swami diet actually seems more similar to my btd than what i had figured my gtd to be so that's interesting, but it's still a hybrid so i'm glad i spent the money on it.  

also, the time lockout was a matter of a few hours for me, not the full day that others had commented on before.  i kinda wish i had known this at the time so i could have played with figures more in the beginning.

Warrior 430,
That's great that you lost 12 lbs.  It is hard to give up old foods, but what are you eating now that you like?  Good news about the thyroid also!

Welcome Warrior430.. glad you are feeling better .

Hello Warrior430!

There is a great depth of help and companionship waiting for you here!  There are no dumb questions.  We treat newbies with respect, since we were all newbies once, and want to share our great experiences!

Quoted from nwiser

I'd like to be a chocolate eating Explorer! I think I'm half....SWAMI has
me as 50% Teacher.

Try experimenting with chocolate (or carob), clarified butter, and agave syrup!  That 50% is your first Principle Component in your Swami.  All the other Principle Components will contain the similarity of your Swami to the other "book" Genotypes and your blood type from the BTD.  It is almost a complete certainty that your Explorer component is not 50%.

If Explorer was also 50% your individual needs would look like a perfect balancing act between Teacher and Explorer, while avoiding any resemblance to anything else!  

If that is you, circus tightrope walkers might start bugging you to reveal your secrets!  

I didn't change genotype but now after swami input so many items I could have with the BTD book/GTD book I can/can't have with SWAMI. THIS IS DRIVING ME CRAZY, AND IT'S EXPENSIVE TO BUY, THEN TO GET RID OF AND THEN TO BUY AGAIN!!!

for instance,
before
figs bad, then good, now bad.
spinach bad, bad, now good.
rice good, bad, bad
soy good, bad, bad
almonds bad, good, bad
walnuts bad, good, bad
tomato bad, good, bad

don't know how long i can take all these changes, i just want to cry  

you don t have to buy again, ever!!
now that s good news, right?

once you begin resetting you can tweak again and watch swami give you back certain items......and all this process while healing......too good to be true, right?

I don't know Lola, I thought I wouldn't when i started GTD. And I haven't even put in my head size yet on SWAMI.

run it until all your possible data has been added .....

Can anyone tell me where I can find the perentages on the Swami? at first it calculated me as a Warrior, now a Teacher...I feel I could be a cross of both. Everyone is talking about how they are 50% this and 35% that...where does it tell you in the program what your percentages are?

This must be tough for most people to figure out. I am just glad that mine is obvious. It helped me to put some aspects of myself into perspective.  

It would be nice if everyone's genotype was as obvious.  I must be a "text book" case Nomad. Everything fits.

Now if I could just figure out how to constantly travel AND take care of my responsibilities?  

Quoted from 8614

Can anyone tell me where I can find the perentages on the Swami? at first it calculated me as a Warrior, now a Teacher...I feel I could be a cross of both. Everyone is talking about how they are 50% this and 35% that...where does it tell you in the program what your percentages are?

First make sure when selecting the report type, that it is not the abbreviated one.  Then check on the results page on your swami report, about the fourth page down.  

PS: sorry, forgot to mention: Welcome to the forum and nice to see you  choosing SwamiX to guide your journey.

beachbum, also,

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Click on 'Member Center' at the top of this page, then on 'Avatar Settings' on the left, to select an avatar, to share your blood type with us.

Add information below your avatar setting, in the 'Profile Information' section, typing in the 'Personal Message box': (Rh+/-, secretor status; subtype A1 or A2, MN blood typing information)

Create a Signature that will appear at the bottom of every message you post.

Indicate your gender, age, and location in the 'Personal Information' section.

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=ref
read the threads in the Reference Section.
.....

Haven't changed anything on swami for a month or so. just re ran it and I'm now an Explorer again. with a lot of changes too, all very interesting

I have always said i was 42 % Gatherer, 43 % Explorer and 13 % Hunter.

Going to re run the rest of the Family now and see what happens. Lucky as I was just about to order Supplements.

change info below your avatar

From Goldie to Lola..

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I was assigned my type by the earlier newsletter adviser. goldie

are you referring to the first GTD site?  YES   the one administered by Waterfront?

I did not see this before.. sorry..  

My mother and I were talking about this very thing tonight.

When we started the GTD we both measured eachother very carefully, more than once to make perfectly sure. Than we did the calculations and the book said we were both Warriors.

We both followed the diet and didn't feel any noticeable changes. In fact, I had noticed way more change when I just followed the A BTD when I first started.

As I swami'd myself I've found that I'm now a Teacher 42%. And tonight as we were chatting I told her to get off her computer and let me look at it. I let the computer calculate her genotype and she is a Nomad by 30%. FINALLY!!! This all made her foods make complete sense. No wonder she wasn't able to lose weight and hasn't noticed any real significant changes with her diet.

I just wanted to pose a question that I have thought about a few times now... What is the point of the genotype book if the majority of people seem to miscalculate their type so often? I personally don't think I'll be sharing the Genotype book with my clients. I will show them the btd and if they want more info I will take them right to Swami. That really makes the most sense. Why even genotype? Anyone feel differently? lol *opening up a can of worms*... aren't I?  

two things come to mind: $$$$ and health issues

Swami may be out of reach for some people and BTD may be too generalized for some.  The next best economical alternative will be GTD book, they can even get it from a library ...

Geno typing oneself is not always difficult, it may require a bit of research and watching a few videos, but except for very unique cases, it should be easy enough to determine and produce better results than BTD.

Of course there are those unique individuals like myself who carry strong influences from very dominant genes from both parents, one with a Warrior like ancentry and the other with the explorerhood/teacher traits.  Even Swaming requires a few attempts to get it right ...

So, I believe they are all very useful, each stage with its own set of customers ... based in the circumstances I will not discard any of them: BTD, GTD or Swamix ...

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What is the point of the genotype book if the majority of people seem to miscalculate their type so often? I personally don't think I'll be sharing the Genotype book with my clients.

Whether you use SWAMI or GenoType, you need to have accurate measurements to get good results.

The book explains the measurements more completely than the software. So the book is helpful to correctly use the software by oneself.

If you are taking the measurements for your clients, than they may not need the book for this.

The book also explains the concept more completely than the SWAMI data reports.  It is helpful if clients understand some of the whys of the diet. It is cheaper for my clients to spend $14 on a book than to pay to have me spend several hours explaining epigenetics, detoxification, haplogoups, ... to them individually (although some would rather pay than read).

my clients all first read the book, then they get a swami if interested......

not the other way around!!!

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told her to get off her computer and let me look at it. I let the computer calculate her genotype and she is a Nomad by 30%. FINALLY!!!

glad you now know, that everytime you run a swami, best advice is to let it compute the GT, first time, and every other time you decide to tweak it.

enjoy your swami reports to the fullest

Wow...  I requested SWAMI for Christmas and got it...  Since I had tossed my measurements some time ago, we had to re-measure to enter the data into SWAMI...  Now my torso measures equal to or slightly longer than my legs, so it changed me from book Warrior to 39% Nomad...  The only logical explanation I have is that my spine has been healing enough that it has allowed my pelvis to tilt up more so I can sit straighter...

As you can imagine, I now have several meats to choose from, as well as getting some other foods that I had been "wanting".  I haven't noticed any majors that I don't get now that I really enjoy - but I have just perused the lists so far...

What a wonderfully healing program we have here!

sounds exhilarating!!!
enjoy your kicked up a notch report!

Quoted from Lola

sounds exhilarating!!!
enjoy your kicked up a notch report!

Thanks Lola, I plan to enjoy it.  

There are some very interesting Genoharmonic combinations for me to fit in...  Definitely going to be a challenge to find some of the foods in the left column...

Quoted from ABJoe

Wow...  I requested SWAMI for Christmas and got it...  Since I had tossed my measurements some time ago, we had to re-measure to enter the data into SWAMI...  Now my torso measures equal to or slightly longer than my legs, so it changed me from book Warrior to 39% Nomad...  The only logical explanation I have is that my spine has been healing enough that it has allowed my pelvis to tilt up more so I can sit straighter...

I'll be really interested to hear how you are feeling on the Swamified Nomad plan!

My obeservations of changing from Gatherer back to explorer again where not so much a criticism more a observation so people could keep checking.

Most software is updated and it's good that it is I think.

I Love my swami! kind regards

I just recalculated my Swami.  When I enter Secretor I am 39% Teacher.  When I enter Non-Secretor or leave it blank, I am 39% Explorer.  I am going to have to order the Secretor test soon to really lock down my GT some more.  It's fun comparing new food recommendations, etc.  

Also, in surfing the BTD webpage, I found that although it is not required as part of the BTD / GTD, Dr. D. does make caloric intake recommendation for losing weight.  He has an automatic calculator too.  http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/calculators/calc1.htm

Very cool.  I need all the help I can get.

Cheers All...  

Does one need to have a printer, to run Swami?
Can it go someplace on the computer, to read?
If I get printer connected, can it be printed, out later?

yes you can save it as a pdf and either look at it on your computer or print it later or save it to a memory card and print it on some one Else's computer. in colour or grey scale.

SWAMI is a web application.

You can enter your data on any machine that is able to access the web.

The data is stored on a server, so you can print it from any other web connected machine at a later time.


I printed mine since I find it easier to work off of paper, but you could view everything online and save paper by not printing.

You may not want to print immediately since sometimes the diet report changes as one makes adjustments to the data entered.

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AS noted by policychecker above those that want to can generate pdf files. This enable you to view (or print) the diet report when you are not connected to the web.

Quoted from Drea

I'll be really interested to hear how you are feeling on the Swamified Nomad plan!

Drea,
I think the few changes I've made, mostly concentrating on the few more protein choices and less starches, has stimulated the detox / viral fight.  My body hurts all over, I have had little cold / canker sores since changing, and the body odor has kicked up some...  I know there is still lots of detox to do, and it is progressing more and more...

On the SWAMI, it states that Nomads are more susceptible to viral infections, which seems to correlate with my history.

I'm sorry to hear that you aren't feeling well, Joe, but you'll end up stronger for the effort! Healing thoughts are being sent as I type.

Quoted from Drea

I'm sorry to hear that you aren't feeling well, Joe, but you'll end up stronger for the effort! Healing thoughts are being sent as I type.

Thanks for the thoughts...  I keep getting better... Although there is still pain involved.

thanks policyholder and C Sharp, you were both a big help!

I have a general rule of thumb;

If you gain weight easily or get depressed, gatherer

if your goal in life is 'fun' and you like change, - explorer

if you don't fit into either of those categories - I would say nomad.

This is just based on what I have noticed in friends and family - but I guess since you have SWAMI that is the best guide of all!

Quoted from stephanieelise

I have a general rule of thumb;

If you gain weight easily or get depressed, gatherer ( I do carry weight at the moment but never depressed

if your goal in life is 'fun' and you like change, - explorer I loooove change and fun;)

if you don't fit into either of those categories - I would say nomad. sure

This is just based on what I have noticed in friends and family - but I guess since you have SWAMI that is the best guide of all!

Funny thing is that I have been all tree
right now I am gatherer ( even I would never ever have picked it myself)  and the funny thing is I think I like the foodlist the best
Rather low carb/less sweet fruit and carbs compared to explorer.
Plenty of fatty dairy and eggs and good meats and fish.

I just seem to be a real cameleon  regarding GT - but stays  Henriette all the time ;9

ABJoe confrère...as Dr.D once mentioned... we might produce at the same time some  A or more B-reactions to foods .....it depends....

I just re-ran my swami, took the Myers-Briggs test (turned out ISFP), unticked hypertension in parents (I thought my Mom had it but was wrong), and..... *drumroll* I came out Explorer!!!! I must say I'd thought I was Explorer since I first read the descriptions, but came out Hunter before, or Gatherer if ticked nonnie.

I can't wait to see my new lists      

Oh and it says 40% this time...

Quoted from Henriette Bsec

Funny thing is that I have been all tree
right now I am gatherer ( even I would never ever have picked it myself)  and the funny thing is I think I like the foodlist the best
Rather low carb/less sweet fruit and carbs compared to explorer.
Plenty of fatty dairy and eggs and good meats and fish.

I just seem to be a real cameleon  regarding GT - but stays  Henriette all the time ;9

and now I am back to nomad- re ran it with family history ( forgot to put it in at first

Most of the foods stay the same as with gathererbut got better fats imo

Quoted from Amazone I.

ABJoe confrère...as Dr.D once mentioned... we might produce at the same time some  A or more B-reactions to foods .....it depends....

I was just thinking about this last night, and I think that's what's been bothering me about the whole thing.  Because for me  I have STRONG qualities of all 3 categories I can be, and I have some MILD qualities of the 4th I could be.  

I know for sure I deal with Teacher issues and fit much of the descriptions.  I know for sure that the same goes for Explorer and Nomad.  Warrior is the one I least identify with, but that doesn't mean it's completely out.  I have the unibrow and every once in 3 blue moons, I need a break from meat.  

But regardless, I started feeling like I should follow the swami that I feel like I'm being like at present.  Like, I think right now I'm struggling with a sluggish liver, a gut that is being too accepting of gunk, and viral stuff.  So, I feel like a Nomad right now.  Of course I also feel overwhelmed with all the allergens and that's very Explorer.  I think when I'm feeling good and in the middle of summer, Teacher would probably fit best, because I'm usually trying to do more than what I should be because I'm feeling better.  And it's not even always WHAT I'm doing by HOW I'm doing it.  I get all charged up and my movements are quicker and my brain is tweaked out etc.  That's totally teacher ish.  Now, I'm all like, chilled out, resting, etc.  So I don't feel like the teacher diet is right any longer.  I followed it for a month and I think I needed the extra carbs.  But now I think I need a little more red meat for blood building, less carbs and need to get rid of allergens and toxins.  So I need something more like my Nomad or Explorer diet.  

So, I think you're right Isa.  I feel like I need to be fluid with my choices.  And that is a very difficult thing.  It's easier on the brain to just follow a list.  Plus, it also means I need to understand what the "foods in question" do.  Like the few foods that switch positions.  Why are blackberries a "black dot" on my Explorer but Neutral on my Teacher and superfoods on my Nomad diet.  Things like that.  There aren't a lot of things that change, but certain ones do.  Avocados are another example.  

None of my lists change so terribly that it's like, WHAT DO I EAT?  But it does have me scratching my head sometimes.  And it becomes more complex than I think someone with ONE blood type.  Which may be why I am that much more sensitive to supplements and what not.  But even said all that, I bet there are people with one blood type that have these ups and downs and have to figure out what best fits at that point.  I don't think the change of seasons only affect AB's.  

Eh?

So glad to be a Hunter....well sort of.  

I am so excited, I have to share it with someone !!!!  I found BTD in November and by January bought a Swami for myself and my husband.  He is an O- and clearly a Hunter, no question. I am an A- secreter, however I kept flip flopping between Warrior and Teacher depending on little things I changed in Swami. I feel better and have lost a few pounds but no dramatic improvement.

Last week I ordered a Genotype Kit.  My measurements were good...what I did find out is that I am a NON taster.  Putting Non-taster in Swami clearly makes me a Warrior, no matter what other little things I change.

I am so happy to finally have a clear direction.  So if any of you are slipping from one genotype to another try a PROP Taster Test.  Wish I had not been so cheap and bought the genotyping kit in January...but I am VERY happy to be starting my Warrior Plan !!!