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Henriette Bsec
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one month ago I took swami express
let computer decide since it felt most natural and came out as a weird Gatherer/b type with quite a lots of dairy.
I was somewhat confused and surprised - since I according to book was nomad
food list was good - got chocolate back and whole fat dairy  
Some stuff matched some didnt-

Today I decided i wanted to change serving sizes to "compute best "

- and I came out as Explorer  

Then I checked my data and started to play around a bit
decided to look at my jaw size and put as narrow ( as I should have the fist time)

and I still became explorer with quite a lot dairy  

I dont really fit explorer-
or for that matter gatherer
so I am really surprised and confused

when I look at the food list it is ok... but...

It leaves me confused what happend between August 13 and now ?



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Quoted from Henriette Bsec

I dont really fit explorer-
or for that matter gatherer
so I am really surprised and confused




Fit?

I  look at it this way. We have to be able to define our genotype some what so labels are necessary, if SWAMI could just label it "HB at this moment" SWAMI would, but it can't it needs to " fit" you into some category/label/groove, so it does. ( The percentage thread would be good to reread)

You admitted that you did not put in the right data regarding your jaw angle so now your genetic profile (head shape is linked to disease and hereditary) essentially changed so indeed I would go with the Explorer and let the diet speak for itself over the next three months.

Gotta love the dairy!



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The 6 GT labels are just a convenience when SWAMI is used since the diet is a blend made for you. I would suppose that you are close enough to the various GT's that minor changes are enough for SWAMI to 'change' your label, such as the jaw angle. You remain Henriette no matter what and that is what is important.  
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Changing serving size will not alter GenoType calculations. Jaw shape will. The difference(s) between blood group possible GenoTypes is much less significant in SWAMI than in the GTD book because the book labored under the limitations of being a static media, in which case you may well be a Nomad as per GTD, but another GT in SWAMI. By the time the software calculates its further customization as per your situational specific (health history, family history, etc) and hybridizes how much of each system (BTD versus GTD) works best for you, the world of 'Gatherer' or 'Nomad' becomes somewhat arcane.

Basically you are working on the further evolution of the 'Henriette Diet.'


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well first I only changed sizes of food - that is why I am surprised.
then I played around and noticed that I had put my jaw as wide it is really narrow or neutral.

I am just somewhat   now I have to change my food list again !  

I just put my data here

B
rh-
secretor


Northern European
slight taster

not caffeine sensitive
not lactose sensitive

Cranial width 27 cm
cranial lengt  31
no carabelli cusp
yes to incisor
narrow jaw or neutral  

gynic space
meso -endo
legs longer
upper leg longer
visible tendon
my fingers just touch

got white lines on left hand

left hand:
index 68 mm
ring 65
1 finger thumb whorl
2 whorl
3 whorl
4 whorl
5  ulnar loop

right hand
index 67 mm
ring 66 cm
1 whorl
2 whorl
3 ulnar loop
4 whorl
5 ulnar loop




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Quoted from Dr. D
Changing serving size will not alter GenoType calculations. Jaw shape will. The difference(s) between blood group possible GenoTypes is much less significant in SWAMI than in the GTD book because the book labored under the limitations of being a static media, in which case you may well be a Nomad as per GTD, but another GT in SWAMI. By the time the software calculates its further customization as per your situational specific (health history, family history, etc) and hybridizes how much of each system (BTD versus GTD) works best for you, the world of 'Gatherer' or 'Nomad' becomes somewhat arcane.

Basically you are working on the further evolution of the 'Henriette Diet.'


Thanks   I posted while you wrote.


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well I got red wine back   so I survive that I lost tomates again  
- just a bit confusing that such a small thing change everything

Well I guess I going to spend the evening putting my new foods into a new list ( in danish


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Henriette Bsec,

Welcome to Explorers!  

Tea Rose



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Quoted from Tea Rose
Henriette Bsec,

Welcome to Explorers!  

Tea Rose


thanks  


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Dear Henriette,

Somehow I think being an explorer fits you.. Remember the explorer motto "I did it my way"..

I think you have your own (and wonderful) way

By the way, I think Peter's input here in this thread IS a must read. Yes, that is what SWAMI does, truly personalised diet.

We are persons, individuals, we are not labels .. In a 'static' world/media, we may need labels to differentiate. But in the real world we are what we are, and we are constantly changing (responding to environment, i.e. to what we eat, breathe, interact etc..)..

So, keep being your unique self and keep enjoying it, however it changes it's still you

Cheers,
Yaman


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This is a good example of what I see Peter really trying to do in his life:  Continuing to further refine and individualize health plans so that each person has the best possible tools on the planet for attaining and maintaining the best health possible. . along with long life and happiness!  

I wouldn't worry at all about the labels, because it's only language.  Let's go with this magnificent flow!  



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I can see that SWAMI factored in some Explorer foods for me even though my diet is
Teacher combined type A diet..I tend to do a lot of things "my own way" too but
I feel like a Teacher and know my diet is unlike other Teachers.

Good luck Henriette!  

Enjoy getting back your red wine and having one more new adventure on the
Henriette Diet  


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For the record I have never seen a narrow jawed Nomad. At least not a very narrow jawed one. Although I do not know peoples blood types and faces as much as other people, just saying... Explorer might fit better than you think!

What is your world view? Is it receptive? I sort of wonder because that might make more sense for someone that is not caffeine sensitive. I got a B- friend typed out as Explorer and he is sensitive to caffeine but seems tolerant in world view and food. Nothing bothers him other than caffeine, but he is not eating things that could benefit him. He becomes sort of boring and does little to nothing and develops poor short term memory sometimes... He remembers wild weird details of other things though, like my grandpa Explorer.
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you guys make me blush thanks

Yep I am 37 % explore
- and yes DOS I do have a receptive world view...
Ill just enjoy that with my swami ive got chocolate as diamond and whole fat milk as superfood -pretty good compared to normal explorer diet.

and be exploring my new "Henriette diet"  
yep I do it my way....Yaman  

The psychologically stuf about gatherers never fitted me
I am not sweet natured with highs and downs
or an early adopterof new ideas( I make my own ideas;)
or for that matter able to concentrate long on brainwork
I change direction a lot  


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A fluke happened with my SWAMI today ... you might want to check yours again Henriette.

I decided to see what it would say for me if I chose "Narrow" jaw, and it changed my genotype to Teacher!

I was reading the paragraph about Teacher percentage, and noticed that it said I had "chosen" the Teacher genotype rather than allowing SWAMI to calculate for me.

I definitely didn't choose Teacher -- I didn't change that field at all -- so I don't know how it got reset to Teacher. All I did was open SWAMI, switch my jaw measurement, then clicked the button to print out the report.

I redid my report several times after that using every possible jaw angle while making sure it said "calculate my genotype for me". It switched me back to Warrior no matter what jaw angle I submitted.




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I think that after changing a field it's important to click on some neutral area outside the drop down menu--before selecting something else. I think that was mentioned somewhere on the forum. I have seen websites where if you don't do that a dropdown entry can change without your knowing it.
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Chandon  and Dgale-
No change for me
unless I change my jaws to wide
and I have asked several people yesterdaty and all say I am neutral or maybe narrow.
NOT wide as I by mistake put...

Well food looks ok...
Lots of B food   and even beef and veal superfoods
- but Ill miss some of the nice fruits and nuts  from my Gatherer swami.


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Can someone tell me what a "Neutral" jaw looks like?  

I got a plastic protractor, but I think there's a better type I can use.

If an Almond jaw is 125 degrees or more, that's going to be quite the angle!  I thought I was Almond for certain because nobody I know has a jaw as wide, but with this protractor I'm wavering from 122 to 130.




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I believe there s a picture of the different jaws in the gt kit, no?


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Do not feel bad. I have been back and forth between Teacher, Explorer, and Warrior, way too much. Right now it is for sure between Teacher and Warrior. I am getting sodium benzoate strips to try. I can not taste the PTC ones. SWAMI swears that I am a warrior but... I am having such a hard time believing it. According to the book well I am a Teacher. The Teacher cheeses work for me, the warrior ones make me feel terrible in comparison because they cause horrible calcium issues with my kidneys. However does SWAMI know better? Yeah this can get a bit old, mean while nothing is ever normal or good with candida. Too much brain hurt for unpredictable reasons, along with other problems.
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If you tell SWAMI you are a teacher, how much does your diet change?


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The Teacher cheeses work for me, the warrior ones make me feel terrible in comparison because they cause horrible calcium issues with my kidneys. However does SWAMI know better?  


What Warrior cheeses?  I get paneer and cottage..that's it.
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Well I have come to the conclusion that it is
REALLY important to let the database decide[color=blue][/color] your Swami Genotype !!!

I actually think it is a bit confusing that you can choose to overrule the database- just because you "feel " that you belong to another genotype.

Since I only have 37 % Explorer in me
- I guess that is why I changed from Nomad ( based on book) to gatherer( put wrong jaw facts) and now explorer.

I have tried the regular explorer diet in 2 months
and felt absolutely lousy ...
now when I compare my new swami version it is VERY different- it is truly a Henriette version  

I used to say I was a "chocolate, dairy, egg eating" explorer - well I am now - since milk and eggyolks are superfoods and chocolate is diamond

It will be interesting making a new shopping list  


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Quoted from Henriette Bsec
Well I have come to the conclusion that it is
REALLY important to let the database decide[color=blue][/color] your Swami Genotype !!!



I agree with you here!  

I  would NEVER have thought I was an Explorer, so I am glad I ended up letting it choose for me.  

My SWAMI is a mixture of:

BTD for Type O
GTD Hunter
GTD Explorer

It is funny but I remember saying things on this forum in the past and now I know why they didn't quite click with the Hunter Diet, things like:

     - I didn't feel the need for protein at every breakfast.  

Eggs have become a neutral for me so I eat far less of them now.  I am happy having a couple of fruits for my breakfast.

     - I am happy to go with meatless meals (Veg Protein) for a while, but then I get an overwhelming desire for a big juicy, greasy hamburger.

My plan now has far far less meat protein and more fish and veg protein which is more in line with what feels right for me.

     - I couldn't do the amount of exercise recommended for Hunters

It was too overwhelming for me to do 40 minutes everyday of intense exercise.


It all makes sense to me now that I know I am such a blend.  I love my SWAMI plan!

Tea Rose






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This thread makes me both excited and scared to receive  my SWAMI!

How much of it relies on just  choosing  something ?  such as jaw description?    so where can I get help on choosing correctly once I get that??   I'm already apprehensive about making  incorrect assumptions!!
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Well look carefully at the pictures showing different jaws and ask people what you look like or take a picture of you!!! and you dicide.
Maybe it doesnt matter as much as it did to me( since I am just a 37 % explorer


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or use the protractor in the GTD kit.....that gadget is accurate enough!


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I redid mine and came out a gatherer (43%). Tried that diet from the book measurements and for 2 weeks and was really sick. Tried the supplements and was even sicker; found out I'm allergic to yerba mate. When I switched to the Hunter diet and supplements felt much better; after I got over the 32 blisters in my mouth ( figured it was super detox) .

Gather puts torso longer than legs which is not true, mine are equal and I'm a supertaster with very pronounceed shoveling of the upper teeth, have sharp and fairly pointy incisors. You can also see the tendons and veins in arms.  Finger prints don't match gatherer either, mine are all whorls on both hands, except one finger one each has an arch.Personality questionaire I only had 6 for a  gatherer and 21 for hunter, weird Hah!!!


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Very interesting, Kitty!

I bought the Genotype book when it came out..  at the very beginning I  thought I was a Gatherer, but then I found that I was doing the finger measurements incorrectly.... I have labeled myself a Hunter now...
I have  just ordered the SWAMI and   have been reading  posts here... I got my kit out again and did my fingers and for a moment thought I was a Gatherer again...  I watched the YouTube measurement guides... did it exactly so...and I really am a Hunter, I THINK... will get the Swami to see...  I hope I am a Hunter and not a Gatherer because I  see very little on the Gatherer list that agrees with me...... but I will follow whichever..  just can't wait for the SWAMI... has it helped many of you  nail down more specific foods just for you?
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Quoted Text
I hope I am a Hunter and not a Gatherer because I  see very little on the Gatherer list that agrees with me.


no worries, swami will give you a personalized plan, right for you.


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Quoted from SheriBerry
has it helped many of you  nail down more specific foods just for you?


Yes


MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.
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My Swami only had 43% as gatherer but no other percentages were given, what is the remaining 57%? The swami cut my oil down to 3 TBSP a week from 6TBSP, that really worries me. When I cut fat to 1 tsp a day on Weight Watchers the heels of my feet had cracks 1/4 deep and my hair fell out, also tired and draggy. Within a week of adding more fat back in felt much better. Many of the foods are the same with a few tweeks but some of the ones that changed to neutral; like pineapple juice and sweet potatoes make me feel the best after eating. Still have doubts about following but will give it a try. Went to bed sick last night and very bloated. Will continue to take the Hunter 3 Pack, have not felt this good or slept this well for years. One week after starting the Hunter Pack I started sleeping all night, without waking up every few hours.


"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality."John Lennon

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Quoted from kittykar1
My Swami only had 43% as gatherer but no other percentages were given, what is the remaining 57%?


For a discussion of the percentages see this thread:

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1249043756/


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Thanks C_Sharp


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Quoted from kittykar1
My Swami only had 43% as gatherer but no other percentages were given, what is the remaining 57%? ... Still have doubts about following but will give it a try.


I sympathize -- I was a Hunter before Swami, now I'm an Explorer. All the advice on the board was to just suck it up and be glad.   

I'm giving it a try, too, even down to the supplements. Best of luck and please let us know how it turns out.


O- nonsecretor, troubled Swami Explorer, INFP. Happily married to an A+. Blissfully, mercifully child-free.
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Going to give it my best shot but not the supps for Gatherer was allergic to the one with yerba mate tea, so will stay on the Hunter pack.


"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality."John Lennon

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Quoted from Henriette Bsec
Well I have come to the conclusion that it is
REALLY important to let the database decide[color=blue][/color] your Swami Genotype !!!

I actually think it is a bit confusing that you can choose to overrule the database- just because you "feel " that you belong to another genotype.

Since I only have 37 % Explorer in me
- I guess that is why I changed from Nomad ( based on book) to gatherer( put wrong jaw facts) and now explorer.

I have tried the regular explorer diet in 2 months
and felt absolutely lousy ...



now when I compare my new swami version it is VERY different- it is truly a Henriette version  

I used to say I was a "chocolate, dairy, egg eating" explorer - well I am now - since milk and eggyolks are superfoods and chocolate is diamond

It will be interesting making a new shopping list  



You must know yourself very well!
I also made the mistake of following the Explorer diet when I first got started instead of the Explorer/Teacher combo I use now that I have SWAMI. Definately better and easier!


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The GenoType labels are less important with the software versus a 'hard coded' book. In SWAMI GenoType (the professional software) we've already gone to using the descriptive 'epigenetic superfamily' since that is what they really are.


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This is interesting since I was assigned my type by the earlier newsletter adviser.. I then tried to fool around with the weight of 60 pounds less and some other things and no matter what I did - I stayed the same..  and they did not take many factors .. just a few basics..so I am glad I am not having this issue it would truly make me crazy.. bad enough I went from O to Gatherer.. I am not RIGID but I am LOYAL.. just 2 words here -but food- that would drive me nuts..    


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Quoted Text
I was assigned my type by the earlier newsletter adviser.


are you referring to the first GTD site?
the one administered by Waterfront?


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Quoted Text
The GenoType labels are less important with the software versus a 'hard coded' book. In SWAMI GenoType (the professional software) we've already gone to using the descriptive 'epigenetic superfamily' since that is what they really are.
The compromise concept of Genotype allows beginners to hook on to a simple, statistically valid entity.  Most people, who just need weight loss, can just work with that and gain the other benefits.  Others, often labelled as Explorers can talk out their issues, take the blood-neutral Explorer diet, or go to a fully individualized diet (in any order they like   )

I don't know if Dr. D' Adamo was tempted to make a three or four versions of the Explorer diet for the book, but keeping to the conceptual framework was a "mistake" (as my wife incorrectly states) that was required for the sake of integrity alone.

This is how new systems are created; at least one concept that is at right angles to "accepted reality" must be incorporated.  Anyone who has difficulty with what I am saying can look to the books of Edward de Bono.  He has many concrete examples that will give you an appreciation for the more abstract thinking here.


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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Quoted from VictoriousLiving



You must know yourself very well!
I also made the mistake of following the Explorer diet when I first got started instead of the Explorer/Teacher combo I use now that I have SWAMI. Definately better and easier!


So which one does swami call you?  I believe that is what I am also.  An Explorer/Teacher combo.  


The poster formerly known as "ABNOWAY"

"Finally brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things." - Phillipians 4:8
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Me, too!  I'm right on the hunter/explorer border, so whenever any small thing changes (this time, it was my most recent bloodwork) I switch status according to swami.

It actually seems like my recent switch was due to improved good health having followed the diet now for 7 months.  My allergies are way down, my bloodwork is perfect, my fingerprints are more clear, less white lines, no sugar cravings, my thyroid has stabilized... it's absolutely amazing, especially because I've had long periods of time in there where I'm not following it 100%.  

The funny thing is, I'd assumed I was - at core - an Explorer (allergies, nervous system and blood issues, nonnie) with overlaying inflammation symptoms that were consistent with Hunter.   In other words, I thought my inflammation would clear up and reveal that I was even more Explorer than before.  Instead, it seems to be the other way around.  As in, my core issues are inflammation and I had nervous symptoms and allergies on top of the inflammation, if that makes sense.

Or, I could be totally off... just my intuitive understanding.


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Quoted from kittykar1
Going to give it my best shot but not the supps for Gatherer was allergic to the one with yerba mate tea, so will stay on the Hunter pack.


That was the tip off that maybe you're a Hunter.  I'm taking the Warrior Catalyst and I really love it. It gives me energy and lifts my mood!  Great stuff!   I know of someone else here who thought she was  Warrior and tried the Warrior supplements and felt terrible on them. She since found out she was a Teacher.
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How has WHEAT affected   anyone I am really new ,at the diet. It  has helped me with Thyroid weight and feeling better, I have lost 12 lbs but with a lot workouts type a was rough to give up the Meat and potatoes
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Quoted from Warrior430
How has WHEAT affected   anyone I am really new ,at the diet. It  has helped me with Thyroid weight and feeling better, I have lost 12 lbs but with a lot workouts type a was rough to give up the Meat and potatoes


Hi Warrior,
Welcome    Great that you're feeling better and lost weight! Not an easy feat for a Warrior. We're pretty thrifty.  I've been eating vegetarian the last week. Even though I can have fish, turkey, cornish hens, duck and veal, I wanted to see how I feel..Well except for the sore throat I caught from my little son (He's almost eighteen) I was feeling pretty good. Sometimes I really miss my mother's meat balls and sausage in her homemade spaghetti sauce...
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keep up the good work!
all sound like great results, warrior~


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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I'd like to be a chocolate eating Explorer! I think I'm half....SWAMI has
me as 50% Teacher.


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My daughter and I both did SWAMIXpress last summer. Then I did the National Geographic haplogroup test, and we both added the results to our SWAMIs. Daughter's food list changed a lot (she went from being 48% Teacher/Receptor to 47% Warrior/Reactor), but mine didn't change much at all. We're both A nonnies, but not the same GenoType. A real mind-bender.
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got a male sibling to have him do your Y chromosome line?
or a son, to have him do your daughter s Y chromosome line?
or your hub, for your daughter s full report
then you d have the whole picture!


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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i just got my swami xpress yesterday and was SURE that i was a gatherer due to the book, but the program has me at 43% explorer.  i can't say that i'm too upset (except for the cheeses that i lost! ).  my swami diet actually seems more similar to my btd than what i had figured my gtd to be so that's interesting, but it's still a hybrid so i'm glad i spent the money on it.  

also, the time lockout was a matter of a few hours for me, not the full day that others had commented on before.  i kinda wish i had known this at the time so i could have played with figures more in the beginning.
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Warrior 430,
That's great that you lost 12 lbs.  It is hard to give up old foods, but what are you eating now that you like?  Good news about the thyroid also!
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Welcome Warrior430.. glad you are feeling better .


MIFHI

"Do not try to satisfy your vanity by teaching a great many things. Awaken people's curiosity. It is enough to open minds; do not overload them." Anatole France

"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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Hello Warrior430!

There is a great depth of help and companionship waiting for you here!  There are no dumb questions.  We treat newbies with respect, since we were all newbies once, and want to share our great experiences!

Quoted from nwiser
I'd like to be a chocolate eating Explorer! I think I'm half....SWAMI has
me as 50% Teacher.
Try experimenting with chocolate (or carob), clarified butter, and agave syrup!  That 50% is your first Principle Component in your Swami.  All the other Principle Components will contain the similarity of your Swami to the other "book" Genotypes and your blood type from the BTD.  It is almost a complete certainty that your Explorer component is not 50%.

If Explorer was also 50% your individual needs would look like a perfect balancing act between Teacher and Explorer, while avoiding any resemblance to anything else!  

If that is you, circus tightrope walkers might start bugging you to reveal your secrets!  


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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I didn't change genotype but now after swami input so many items I could have with the BTD book/GTD book I can/can't have with SWAMI. THIS IS DRIVING ME CRAZY, AND IT'S EXPENSIVE TO BUY, THEN TO GET RID OF AND THEN TO BUY AGAIN!!!

for instance,
before
figs bad, then good, now bad.
spinach bad, bad, now good.
rice good, bad, bad
soy good, bad, bad
almonds bad, good, bad
walnuts bad, good, bad
tomato bad, good, bad

don't know how long i can take all these changes, i just want to cry  


Tina
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you don t have to buy again, ever!!
now that s good news, right?

once you begin resetting you can tweak again and watch swami give you back certain items......and all this process while healing......too good to be true, right?


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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I don't know Lola, I thought I wouldn't when i started GTD. And I haven't even put in my head size yet on SWAMI.


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run it until all your possible data has been added .....


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Can anyone tell me where I can find the perentages on the Swami? at first it calculated me as a Warrior, now a Teacher...I feel I could be a cross of both. Everyone is talking about how they are 50% this and 35% that...where does it tell you in the program what your percentages are?
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This must be tough for most people to figure out. I am just glad that mine is obvious. It helped me to put some aspects of myself into perspective.  

It would be nice if everyone's genotype was as obvious.  I must be a "text book" case Nomad. Everything fits.

Now if I could just figure out how to constantly travel AND take care of my responsibilities?  
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Quoted from 8614
Can anyone tell me where I can find the perentages on the Swami? at first it calculated me as a Warrior, now a Teacher...I feel I could be a cross of both. Everyone is talking about how they are 50% this and 35% that...where does it tell you in the program what your percentages are?


First make sure when selecting the report type, that it is not the abbreviated one.  Then check on the results page on your swami report, about the fourth page down.  

PS: sorry, forgot to mention: Welcome to the forum and nice to see you  choosing SwamiX to guide your journey.




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beachbum, also,


Quoted Text
Click on 'Member Center' at the top of this page, then on 'Avatar Settings' on the left, to select an avatar, to share your blood type with us.

Add information below your avatar setting, in the 'Profile Information' section, typing in the 'Personal Message box': (Rh+/-, secretor status; subtype A1 or A2, MN blood typing information)

Create a Signature that will appear at the bottom of every message you post.

Indicate your gender, age, and location in the 'Personal Information' section.

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=ref
read the threads in the Reference Section.
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Haven't changed anything on swami for a month or so. just re ran it and I'm now an Explorer again. with a lot of changes too, all very interesting

I have always said i was 42 % Gatherer, 43 % Explorer and 13 % Hunter.

Going to re run the rest of the Family now and see what happens. Lucky as I was just about to order Supplements.


Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

Partner (F) is O+(Non) MN. Duffy Fy(a+b+),  Lewis (a+ b-) Gatherer.
DD ( is O+(Non)NN, Duffy Fy(a+b-) Lewis (a+b-) Gatherer
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change info below your avatar


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From Goldie to Lola..

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I was assigned my type by the earlier newsletter adviser. goldie


are you referring to the first GTD site?  YES   the one administered by Waterfront?

I did not see this before.. sorry..  



Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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My mother and I were talking about this very thing tonight.

When we started the GTD we both measured eachother very carefully, more than once to make perfectly sure. Than we did the calculations and the book said we were both Warriors.

We both followed the diet and didn't feel any noticeable changes. In fact, I had noticed way more change when I just followed the A BTD when I first started.

As I swami'd myself I've found that I'm now a Teacher 42%. And tonight as we were chatting I told her to get off her computer and let me look at it. I let the computer calculate her genotype and she is a Nomad by 30%. FINALLY!!! This all made her foods make complete sense. No wonder she wasn't able to lose weight and hasn't noticed any real significant changes with her diet.

I just wanted to pose a question that I have thought about a few times now... What is the point of the genotype book if the majority of people seem to miscalculate their type so often? I personally don't think I'll be sharing the Genotype book with my clients. I will show them the btd and if they want more info I will take them right to Swami. That really makes the most sense. Why even genotype? Anyone feel differently? lol *opening up a can of worms*... aren't I?  


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two things come to mind: $$$$ and health issues

Swami may be out of reach for some people and BTD may be too generalized for some.  The next best economical alternative will be GTD book, they can even get it from a library ...

Geno typing oneself is not always difficult, it may require a bit of research and watching a few videos, but except for very unique cases, it should be easy enough to determine and produce better results than BTD.

Of course there are those unique individuals like myself who carry strong influences from very dominant genes from both parents, one with a Warrior like ancentry and the other with the explorerhood/teacher traits.  Even Swaming requires a few attempts to get it right ...

So, I believe they are all very useful, each stage with its own set of customers ... based in the circumstances I will not discard any of them: BTD, GTD or Swamix ...





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What is the point of the genotype book if the majority of people seem to miscalculate their type so often? I personally don't think I'll be sharing the Genotype book with my clients.



Whether you use SWAMI or GenoType, you need to have accurate measurements to get good results.

The book explains the measurements more completely than the software. So the book is helpful to correctly use the software by oneself.

If you are taking the measurements for your clients, than they may not need the book for this.

The book also explains the concept more completely than the SWAMI data reports.  It is helpful if clients understand some of the whys of the diet. It is cheaper for my clients to spend $14 on a book than to pay to have me spend several hours explaining epigenetics, detoxification, haplogoups, ... to them individually (although some would rather pay than read).


MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.

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my clients all first read the book, then they get a swami if interested......

not the other way around!!!


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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told her to get off her computer and let me look at it. I let the computer calculate her genotype and she is a Nomad by 30%. FINALLY!!!


glad you now know, that everytime you run a swami, best advice is to let it compute the GT, first time, and every other time you decide to tweak it.

enjoy your swami reports to the fullest


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Wow...  I requested SWAMI for Christmas and got it...  Since I had tossed my measurements some time ago, we had to re-measure to enter the data into SWAMI...  Now my torso measures equal to or slightly longer than my legs, so it changed me from book Warrior to 39% Nomad...  The only logical explanation I have is that my spine has been healing enough that it has allowed my pelvis to tilt up more so I can sit straighter...

As you can imagine, I now have several meats to choose from, as well as getting some other foods that I had been "wanting".  I haven't noticed any majors that I don't get now that I really enjoy - but I have just perused the lists so far...

What a wonderfully healing program we have here!


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sounds exhilarating!!!
enjoy your kicked up a notch report!


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Quoted from Lola
sounds exhilarating!!!
enjoy your kicked up a notch report!

Thanks Lola, I plan to enjoy it.  

There are some very interesting Genoharmonic combinations for me to fit in...  Definitely going to be a challenge to find some of the foods in the left column...


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Wow...  I requested SWAMI for Christmas and got it...  Since I had tossed my measurements some time ago, we had to re-measure to enter the data into SWAMI...  Now my torso measures equal to or slightly longer than my legs, so it changed me from book Warrior to 39% Nomad...  The only logical explanation I have is that my spine has been healing enough that it has allowed my pelvis to tilt up more so I can sit straighter...


I'll be really interested to hear how you are feeling on the Swamified Nomad plan!


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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My obeservations of changing from Gatherer back to explorer again where not so much a criticism more a observation so people could keep checking.

Most software is updated and it's good that it is I think.

I Love my swami! kind regards


Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

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I just recalculated my Swami.  When I enter Secretor I am 39% Teacher.  When I enter Non-Secretor or leave it blank, I am 39% Explorer.  I am going to have to order the Secretor test soon to really lock down my GT some more.  It's fun comparing new food recommendations, etc.  

Also, in surfing the BTD webpage, I found that although it is not required as part of the BTD / GTD, Dr. D. does make caloric intake recommendation for losing weight.  He has an automatic calculator too.  http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/calculators/calc1.htm

Very cool.  I need all the help I can get.

Cheers All...  
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Does one need to have a printer, to run Swami?
Can it go someplace on the computer, to read?
If I get printer connected, can it be printed, out later?
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yes you can save it as a pdf and either look at it on your computer or print it later or save it to a memory card and print it on some one Else's computer. in colour or grey scale.


Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

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SWAMI is a web application.

You can enter your data on any machine that is able to access the web.

The data is stored on a server, so you can print it from any other web connected machine at a later time.


I printed mine since I find it easier to work off of paper, but you could view everything online and save paper by not printing.

You may not want to print immediately since sometimes the diet report changes as one makes adjustments to the data entered.

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AS noted by policychecker above those that want to can generate pdf files. This enable you to view (or print) the diet report when you are not connected to the web.


MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.
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I'll be really interested to hear how you are feeling on the Swamified Nomad plan!

Drea,
I think the few changes I've made, mostly concentrating on the few more protein choices and less starches, has stimulated the detox / viral fight.  My body hurts all over, I have had little cold / canker sores since changing, and the body odor has kicked up some...  I know there is still lots of detox to do, and it is progressing more and more...

On the SWAMI, it states that Nomads are more susceptible to viral infections, which seems to correlate with my history.


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I'm sorry to hear that you aren't feeling well, Joe, but you'll end up stronger for the effort! Healing thoughts are being sent as I type.


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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I'm sorry to hear that you aren't feeling well, Joe, but you'll end up stronger for the effort! Healing thoughts are being sent as I type.

Thanks for the thoughts...  I keep getting better... Although there is still pain involved.


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thanks policyholder and C Sharp, you were both a big help!
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I have a general rule of thumb;

If you gain weight easily or get depressed, gatherer

if your goal in life is 'fun' and you like change, - explorer

if you don't fit into either of those categories - I would say nomad.

This is just based on what I have noticed in friends and family - but I guess since you have SWAMI that is the best guide of all!
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Quoted from 13602
I have a general rule of thumb;

If you gain weight easily or get depressed, gatherer ( I do carry weight at the moment but never depressed

if your goal in life is 'fun' and you like change, - explorer I loooove change and fun;)

if you don't fit into either of those categories - I would say nomad. sure

This is just based on what I have noticed in friends and family - but I guess since you have SWAMI that is the best guide of all!

Funny thing is that I have been all tree
right now I am gatherer ( even I would never ever have picked it myself)  and the funny thing is I think I like the foodlist the best
Rather low carb/less sweet fruit and carbs compared to explorer.
Plenty of fatty dairy and eggs and good meats and fish.

I just seem to be a real cameleon  regarding GT - but stays  Henriette all the time ;9




ENFP -naturalist, visual/spatial and musical/verbal/chatty Dane- Mother to DD Emma age 19,
0 rh- secr ( Hunter or Explorer )
Diamonds, superfoods, Neutral,*black dots, avoids
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ABJoe confrère...as Dr.D once mentioned... we might produce at the same time some  A or more B-reactions to foods .....it depends....


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I just re-ran my swami, took the Myers-Briggs test (turned out ISFP), unticked hypertension in parents (I thought my Mom had it but was wrong), and..... *drumroll* I came out Explorer!!!! I must say I'd thought I was Explorer since I first read the descriptions, but came out Hunter before, or Gatherer if ticked nonnie.

I can't wait to see my new lists      

Oh and it says 40% this time...


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Psoriasis since age 14 - Migrains

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Quoted from Henriette Bsec

Funny thing is that I have been all tree
right now I am gatherer ( even I would never ever have picked it myself)  and the funny thing is I think I like the foodlist the best
Rather low carb/less sweet fruit and carbs compared to explorer.
Plenty of fatty dairy and eggs and good meats and fish.

I just seem to be a real cameleon  regarding GT - but stays  Henriette all the time ;9




and now I am back to nomad- re ran it with family history ( forgot to put it in at first

Most of the foods stay the same as with gathererbut got better fats imo


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0 rh- secr ( Hunter or Explorer )
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Quoted from Amazone I.
ABJoe confrère...as Dr.D once mentioned... we might produce at the same time some  A or more B-reactions to foods .....it depends....


I was just thinking about this last night, and I think that's what's been bothering me about the whole thing.  Because for me  I have STRONG qualities of all 3 categories I can be, and I have some MILD qualities of the 4th I could be.  

I know for sure I deal with Teacher issues and fit much of the descriptions.  I know for sure that the same goes for Explorer and Nomad.  Warrior is the one I least identify with, but that doesn't mean it's completely out.  I have the unibrow and every once in 3 blue moons, I need a break from meat.  

But regardless, I started feeling like I should follow the swami that I feel like I'm being like at present.  Like, I think right now I'm struggling with a sluggish liver, a gut that is being too accepting of gunk, and viral stuff.  So, I feel like a Nomad right now.  Of course I also feel overwhelmed with all the allergens and that's very Explorer.  I think when I'm feeling good and in the middle of summer, Teacher would probably fit best, because I'm usually trying to do more than what I should be because I'm feeling better.  And it's not even always WHAT I'm doing by HOW I'm doing it.  I get all charged up and my movements are quicker and my brain is tweaked out etc.  That's totally teacher ish.  Now, I'm all like, chilled out, resting, etc.  So I don't feel like the teacher diet is right any longer.  I followed it for a month and I think I needed the extra carbs.  But now I think I need a little more red meat for blood building, less carbs and need to get rid of allergens and toxins.  So I need something more like my Nomad or Explorer diet.  

So, I think you're right Isa.  I feel like I need to be fluid with my choices.  And that is a very difficult thing.  It's easier on the brain to just follow a list.  Plus, it also means I need to understand what the "foods in question" do.  Like the few foods that switch positions.  Why are blackberries a "black dot" on my Explorer but Neutral on my Teacher and superfoods on my Nomad diet.  Things like that.  There aren't a lot of things that change, but certain ones do.  Avocados are another example.  

None of my lists change so terribly that it's like, WHAT DO I EAT?  But it does have me scratching my head sometimes.  And it becomes more complex than I think someone with ONE blood type.  Which may be why I am that much more sensitive to supplements and what not.  But even said all that, I bet there are people with one blood type that have these ups and downs and have to figure out what best fits at that point.  I don't think the change of seasons only affect AB's.  

Eh?


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"Finally brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things." - Phillipians 4:8
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So glad to be a Hunter....well sort of.  
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I am so excited, I have to share it with someone !!!!  I found BTD in November and by January bought a Swami for myself and my husband.  He is an O- and clearly a Hunter, no question. I am an A- secreter, however I kept flip flopping between Warrior and Teacher depending on little things I changed in Swami. I feel better and have lost a few pounds but no dramatic improvement.

Last week I ordered a Genotype Kit.  My measurements were good...what I did find out is that I am a NON taster.  Putting Non-taster in Swami clearly makes me a Warrior, no matter what other little things I change.

I am so happy to finally have a clear direction.  So if any of you are slipping from one genotype to another try a PROP Taster Test.  Wish I had not been so cheap and bought the genotyping kit in January...but I am VERY happy to be starting my Warrior Plan !!!  



Married to a wonderful O- sec Hunter - he has already lost his 15 pounds...I have a few more to go    We both follow SWAMI

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you did not take one of the tester strips, right?

the pack has two kinds of taster strips
the tester
and the ones with PROP


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Lola,

I did both a blank and a test strip.  I actually did three of the colored test strips just to be sure  

Definitely a nontaster  


Married to a wonderful O- sec Hunter - he has already lost his 15 pounds...I have a few more to go    We both follow SWAMI

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JJR this is the chameleon in our attitude ... but on the psychical side.. try to become a bit clamer and let your body talk, listen to him and you'll be   what he will show to you   from Isa

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Oh my body is talking.  And it's not happy these last few months.  But, maybe that's a good thing.  It's helped us uncover lots of stuff and start to work on it.  I think it helped us uncover some very pertinent keys lately.  

Staying calm through it is my biggest challenge.  One time I remember you saying that lamb calms you down.  And I have noticed this too.  Last week it really helped me.


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lamb..mutton sooo yummy and gives me the feeling of superforces and it takes me down to earth also.... but then it is important for all of us to become the one we shall become ..... the older you're getting the easier it will be  


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Oh my body is talking.  And it's not happy these last few months.  But, maybe that's a good thing.  It's helped us uncover lots of stuff and start to work on it.  I think it helped us uncover some very pertinent keys lately.  

Staying calm through it is my biggest challenge.  One time I remember you saying that lamb calms you down.  And I have noticed this too.  Last week it really helped me.


Ditto....Challenging times for sure.  Lamb always makes me feel better too.  At least we are working on a solution.  Once you know what you are dealing with, it is easier to wage the war.  The hard part is knowing that sometimes you do feel worse right before it gets better.  We are on our way.
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I gotta email you and touch base about tons of stuff.!!!  


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Ok, I got the results of my Y chromosome from the National Genographic Project and entered them into Swami. I updated my weight and changed the exercise level from none to moderate. Check the % teacher. Swami says that it will give me the GT3 Teacher since I had it programmed but that I am something else!
Restart the heart. Rerun Swami without specifying the genotype. It says that I am an Explorer at 39%.

Sorry Teachers I have just left the group. Explorers please make room for an A+ Secretor !!! (Does this make me an honourary nonnie?   )

It appears that my screwy lefty, asymmetrical fingerprints, allergies and (I)N(T)P profile has overcome the tendons and low wrist diameter of the teacher.
It explains all of the recent medication reactions that I have experienced during the treatment for heart problems (atrial fibrillation.)

I compared the Explorer foods from the Genotype book to my Swami list. Wow. Just Wow. There is quite a difference. The Swami is a blend of Teacher and Explorer. A true understanding of the shades of gray that separate the 2 genotypes. Dr. D is a true craftsman and visionary.

The Y-chromosome haplogroup is interesting. It is common in North Western Europe. The problems with anemia and blood disorders are on my mother's side, not my father's side of the family!! (Note to self, go find the mitochondrial haplogroup.)

Random musings on being an Explorer.
  "I did it my way." - yup my wife will confirm that
Apricots is a superfood (my all time favourite fruit)
Carrots, celery and radishes are super foods - I ate them everyday for lunch from high school until a few years ago. Returning to my roots.
Buckwheat is still a superfood!

What do ya mean I have to break into a sweat??? Yoga does not involve sweating (hot yoga notwithstanding).

Wow. Deep breath. I can DO this.

Thanks for reading this far.

Exploring new territory.

Andrew


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Good luck and much health and wellness Andrew as an explorer,
I guess I could be to an A sec +  right handed explorer; asymmetrical, celiac and allergic. BTD A sec for me was pretty good and Teacher cheeses at the best black dots !


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@ Andrew;

Question: How long after National Geographic received your kit you got your results?
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Andrew....welcome in our club..but a sechi always stays a sechi  ...intp-bro...another warm welcome, enjoy your meats... better to confirm: I do it my way .... we aren't dead until now .....


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Question: How long after National Geographic received your kit you got your results?


About two months in a friends' case.

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As a male you can get a whole lot more genetic information for the price of testing two haplogroups ($200), by using other companies.

Since National Geographic introduced the test several years ago there has been a substantial reduction  in the cost it takes to test genetic information.

With other companies not only will you get haplogroup information for $200, but lots of other genetic information.



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Good luck and much health and wellness Andrew as an explorer,
I guess I could be to an A sec +  right handed explorer; asymmetrical, celiac and allergic. BTD A sec for me was pretty good and Teacher cheeses at the best black dots !


Thank you very much Maria. After some further reading and understanding the Explorer lifestyle (diet and exercise) some of it really "talks" to me.

Andrew


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@ Andrew;

Question: How long after National Geographic received your kit you got your results?


Damon:
It took about 1 week to be delivered and then about 8 weeks to do all of the tests and checks before the results were posted.
I was not aware of any other gene testing until I read C-sharp's post (above). My goal was to add to the Genographic project (distribution and changes to population through history). It never occurred to me that it would make such a difference to my Swami profile! Definitely unintended consequences.

Andrew


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Andrew....welcome in our club..but a sechi always stays a sechi  ...intp-bro...another warm welcome, enjoy your meats... better to confirm: I do it my way .... we aren't dead until now .....


Thank you for the warm welcome Amazone, INTP-sis. Yes, once a secretor, always a secretor. I read the thread about "you might be a nonnie if..." and some of those things do or did affect / annoy / bother me. So I thought that I could apply to be an honourary (pretend) nonnie.
For the red meat; lamb and mutton move from avoid to neutral but there are no superfoods (I must be in that gray area close to Teacher). Poultry superfoods reduces from 4 to 3 (turkey, ostrich, squab) but doubles from 2 to 4 servings per week. Looks like turkey leftovers from Thanksgiving and Christmas had better last a long time!
Fish reduces from 6 servings to 4 per week and vegetable protein drops from 9 to 6 servings a week. Due to the milk problem I did not eat any cheeses or yogurt. Now I have to find a good source of goose eggs as whole chicken eggs are only neutral.

Looking forward to "doing it my way", "with a little help from my friends".

Andrew


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I will not change genotypes even if the SWAMI tells me to.     Hopefully that won't happen.
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I will not change genotypes even if the SWAMI tells me to.     Hopefully that won't happen.


What is your Hunter %, Sahara? I assume that you are closely aligned with the Hunter genotype ideal. Or does it just resonate well with you?

Andrew


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Is there a maximum number of times you can edit your account. I am still awaiting my Saliva Test results and didn't print my food list. Every time I click on the edit button to gain access to my food list.
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You can edit your SWAMI profile as many times as you want (a few fields are time locked but this is not affected by the number of times your edit your profile).

I have edited my intake data 263 times in SWAMI.


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Very interesting about the y chromosone thing.   Hmmmmm...


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I was just thinking about this last night, and I think that's what's been bothering me about the whole thing.  Because for me  I have STRONG qualities of all 3 categories I can be, and I have some MILD qualities of the 4th I could be.  

I know for sure I deal with Teacher issues and fit much of the descriptions.  I know for sure that the same goes for Explorer and Nomad.  Warrior is the one I least identify with, but that doesn't mean it's completely out.  I have the unibrow and every once in 3 blue moons, I need a break from meat.  

But regardless, I started feeling like I should follow the swami that I feel like I'm being like at present.  Like, I think right now I'm struggling with a sluggish liver, a gut that is being too accepting of gunk, and viral stuff.  So, I feel like a Nomad right now.  Of course I also feel overwhelmed with all the allergens and that's very Explorer.  I think when I'm feeling good and in the middle of summer, Teacher would probably fit best, because I'm usually trying to do more than what I should be because I'm feeling better.  And it's not even always WHAT I'm doing by HOW I'm doing it.  I get all charged up and my movements are quicker and my brain is tweaked out etc.  That's totally teacher ish.  Now, I'm all like, chilled out, resting, etc.  So I don't feel like the teacher diet is right any longer.  I followed it for a month and I think I needed the extra carbs.  But now I think I need a little more red meat for blood building, less carbs and need to get rid of allergens and toxins.  So I need something more like my Nomad or Explorer diet.  

So, I think you're right Isa.  I feel like I need to be fluid with my choices.  And that is a very difficult thing.  It's easier on the brain to just follow a list.  Plus, it also means I need to understand what the "foods in question" do.  Like the few foods that switch positions.  Why are blackberries a "black dot" on my Explorer but Neutral on my Teacher and superfoods on my Nomad diet.  Things like that.  There aren't a lot of things that change, but certain ones do.  Avocados are another example.  

None of my lists change so terribly that it's like, WHAT DO I EAT?  But it does have me scratching my head sometimes.  And it becomes more complex than I think someone with ONE blood type.  Which may be why I am that much more sensitive to supplements and what not.  But even said all that, I bet there are people with one blood type that have these ups and downs and have to figure out what best fits at that point.  I don't think the change of seasons only affect AB's.  

Eh?


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Hello all!

I am very excited to be participating in the GTD! I have read both Eat Right 4 Your Type and Change Your Genetic Destiny and have been making changes since March this year. I have encountered some issues though, and I feel that I have hit a roadblock with GT.

I am VERY confused regarding some fundamental GT calculations. I have been following the CYGD book and I feel like I have a pretty firm grasp on GT in general and the concept of "goodness of fit" to a particular GT.

I began my GT journey with the Intermediate calculator that came with the GT kit (since I knew and have documentation confirming my blood type: B+).

Strength testing the two possibilities yielded only a marginal preference for the Explorer over the Nomad (They may actually be a tie- I think the PROP tasting is very subjective, so although I believe myself to be a "super taster", I don't feel very confident in judging the degree of bitterness I taste).

I subsequently purchased and received my secretor test results, revealing I am a secretor.

So now, with this new info I wipe the slate clean and begin again with my GT calculations (remeasured just to confirm original values), only this time I jump straight to the Advanced calculator, which gives only one GT- I am a Nomad. Great; my characteristics are already a very good fit based on strength testing (which I also completed again to confirm). Then. . . .

Swami came along. According to directions, I can input my predetermined GT, which I did. I have full confidence that I followed the Advanced calculator EXACTLY to determine I am a Nomad. And yes- I even performed my own blood typing just to confirm that I am B+ (I'm anal like that).

Much to my surprise, Swami mentioned in my report that my manual input of GT Nomad overrode what Swami would have determined (GT Explorer) based on my profile. I double, triple, quadruple checked my profile for errors- none there.

Then I noticed that Swami used the Basic calculator (stated just above GT findings in report). Well, when I go back to my kit and the Basic calculator- yes, following measurements alone WITHOUT blood type and secretor status would have put me in the Explorer GT, but the book states blood type and secretor status are far better GT indicators (that's why they are part of the Advanced calculator) than the measurements alone.

1. Why does Swami use the Basic calculator for GT determination?
2. I did input my blood type and secretor status into my profile, so how is Swami still determining GT Explorer rather than Nomad?

As I understand it, although I seem to have only slightly more Explorer physical characteristics over Nomad, that just means that I have less Nomad attributes. It shouldn't change the fact that I am still a Nomad GT.

According to CYGD book, you can't be more than one GT. There are no combos. There is just the ONE GT that is determined (based on calculators) and then how well you "fit" or "match" the characteristics. Dr. D even recommends NOT to strength test other GT (backtracking through the Basic and Intermediate calculators after already using the Advanced calculator) only to find different GT results. Which seems to be exactly what happened with Swami.

I had already been following GT Nomad diet and supplements, with much improvement, so for me to find out now (with Swami) that I potentially might be a different GT is very disappointing and disheartening.:' (I came into this full force and I want to be accurate with my lifestyle (or I wouldn't be here).

3. Why is the BTD integrated with the GTD in Swami?

My understanding was that the GTD was "even more refined, complete, and accurate way of understanding the human body than blood type alone"(p. xxv, CYGD).

I want to be following the MOST accurate advice for diet and exercise to yield the MOST benefit.

4. Is the current recommendation by Dr. D to follow the GTD alone or the combo of GTD and BTD?

One last comment and question: If my GT is suited so well for dairy consumption, why must I avoid cow and goat milk? (I LOVE MILK!!!!)

Thanks for any comments/answers/clarification to this very long post. (Sorry, I need to know what is going on and what I'm doing!)
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Hello all!



Much to my surprise, Swami mentioned in my report that my manual input of GT Nomad overrode what Swami would have determined (GT Explorer) based on my profile. I double, triple, quadruple checked my profile for errors- none there.

Then I noticed that Swami used the Basic calculator (stated just above GT findings in report).


Hi!

SWAMI actually uses more information than the advanced calculator. Included are all inputs, including fingerprints and so on.

SWAMI saw enough to call you an "Explorer" overriding the advanced chart. What is more important than the label is the food ratings - run them again letting SWAMI choose the GT and see what the differences are.

That's all that really matters.
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Welcome!

The Advanced Calculator is usually the best one to use if you're planning on using one of the "book diets." The point of those calculators is to figure out which of the 6 "ready made diets" would suit you  best.

But SWAMI is different. It takes your measurements, your taster status,  blood type, medical history and family medical history, and crunches ALL of that data. Then it calculates each individual food for about 100 different factors before deciding whether that food is good or bad for you.

SWAMI is NOT just a fancy way to figure out your genotype. It's doing something much more sophisticated. It ends up being a blend of Genotype Diet and Blood Type Diet and a few other factors that aren't in any of his published books. Yes, it ends up with a "genotype label" but, in most cases, the actual food plan varies quite widely from the diet printed in the book. Or sometimes it only varies in a few ways- but those ways can be powerful.

I suggest that you re-run SWAMI, letting it calculate genotype for you. Then, if you like, you can compare the SWAMI diet to the Explorer diet in the  book- I can guarantee there will be differences.

Most people do best by letting SWAMI compute genotype. The override is there, however, because there are exceptions. SWAMI is a complex computer program, but the human body is even more complex, and sometimes we need to tweak the computer program to make it work better. The Genotype override is one of those available tweaks. But before tweaking it, give it a try first. Let SWAMI compute what it thinks is the best option and see how that works for you.


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Then I noticed that Swami used the Basic calculator (stated just above GT findings in report). Well, when I go back to my kit and the Basic calculator- yes, following measurements alone WITHOUT blood type and secretor status would have put me in the Explorer GT, but the book states blood type and secretor status are far better GT indicators (that's why they are part of the Advanced calculator) than the measurements alone.

1. Why does Swami use the Basic calculator for GT determination?

I assume you are referring to this statement in the SWAMI printout:
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Calculator Choice: Using Standard GenoType Calculation Tools.

I am certain that this does not mean the basic calculator from the book - rather I think it means the standardized calculator used for all of SWAMI.

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2. I did input my blood type and secretor status into my profile, so how is Swami still determining GT Explorer rather than Nomad?

SWAMI uses many more data points for the calculation of genotype than the book, so it is not unusual for someone to get a different base genotype from SWAMI than from the book.  There is just no way to have a test in a book with so many variable as is possible in a software package.

It is recommended that you allow SWAMI to select the genotype due to the additional data points used  - making it a more accurate evaluation than the book...

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As I understand it, although I seem to have only slightly more Explorer physical characteristics over Nomad, that just means that I have less Nomad attributes. It shouldn't change the fact that I am still a Nomad GT.

If there are more characteristics that are from the Explorer genotype than any other genotype, why shouldn't it make you the genotype of the majority of your characteristics?
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3. Why is the BTD integrated with the GTD in Swami?

As you realize, often a genotype in the book has several blood types that can be part of that genotype.  For SWAMI to include the blood type in its calculations, it can sort out the major problems foods for each blood type out of the genotype specific foods recommended - making the diet recommendations that much more individualized.
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4. Is the current recommendation by Dr. D to follow the GTD alone or the combo of GTD and BTD?

SWAMI is the most individualized diet recommendation available.  It is a blending of the two major diet plans, blended using some very powerful algorithms and using more than 200 parameters to make up the recommendations.  Whereas BTD is 1 of 8 (if you include Secretor status) and GTD (or CYGD) is 1 of 6 diet, SWAMI is 1 of some 12.6 million diet.

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One last comment and question: If my GT is suited so well for dairy consumption, why must I avoid cow and goat milk? (I LOVE MILK!!!!)

Sorry, I can't answer this one...  Something in Dr. D.'s research based on the inputs you provided have made SWAMI make these decisions.


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Perhaps it is not possible to be a combination of more than one GT.  I don't wish to debate that any more.

But it is possible, and likely, that a diet will include a combination of superfood, neutral and avoid ratings from more than one GT.  I'm guessing in your SWAMI diet will be a combination of Nomad and Explorer.  And it might totally contradict BTD recommendations.

Good luck!


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Perhaps it is not possible to be a combination of more than one GT.  I don't wish to debate that any more.

But it is possible, and likely, that a diet will include a combination of superfood, neutral and avoid ratings from more than one GT.  I'm guessing in your SWAMI diet will be a combination of Nomad and Explorer.  And it might totally contradict BTD recommendations.

Good luck!

Not to mention that those recommendations will, as the title of the chosen thread signifies, change "again again and again".
In this way, SWAMI's accuracy is more finely akin to the human sensation/intuition/judgment interface than the book-systems are capable of approximating. Nonetheless, it is only, itself, an approximation - it cannot substitute for that divinely created faculty of the human mind.

I do not use SWAMI, but I esteem it very highly as a Personal Trainer for those who would send their superior faculty to boot camp while stimulating their gray matter about how Computers calculate. Eventually, I trow, it can be used less and less dependently, as more of an occasional touchstone/ consultant.
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Thanks everybody for the feedback and advice I actually had been using the CYGD book as my GTD "bible" and following that diet since March- I just used Swami for the first time yesterday.

I'm also wondering about the subjective nature of some of the questions on the profile (also part of original calculators in the book). The questions are intended to be simple "yes" or "no" responses, but I'm wondering how accurate I am in judging the extent to which I "taste" the PROP sample and perhaps my body type is elusive and not well defined (I think I have been all 3 at various stages of my life).

Also, there are complications, such as currently I can only just touch my fingers when encircling my wrist, But I'm moderately overweight at the moment. When I was quite thinner 5-6 years ago (and all of my childhood and young adulthood), my fingers overlapped. I also have so many white lines in several fingerprints that I had to guesstimate what the actual pattern was.

I was so close between Explorer and Nomad GT when originally using the book's Basic and Intermediate calculators that something as small as my PROP taster status was enough to put me over in one or the other GT.

That was really the reason why I wanted to find out my secretor status! Because using the Advanced calculator, the book would point me to only ONE possible GT. I couldn't be an Explorer based on that info. So, then I had my final answer and I was satisfied as a Nomad.

I guess I'm having a difficult time wrapping my head around Swami calculations because I thought I understood the framework/principles behind the BTD and GTD reading the books. I feel like it's been turned upside down with conflicting information. According to the book- there are no amount of bodily measurements/tests that could possibly result in a B+ secretor Explorer. All possible paths lead to Nomad (except 2 scenarios, in which I would be a Gatherer).

It feels like an identity crisis! I can't be both Nomad and Explorer, so one calculation is wrong and now I am back full circle to wondering if maybe I am not a supertaster after all, but just a taster. Maybe I need to reconsider some of my answers.

There are notable differences in the Explorer and Nomad diets (I did run both). I'm going to play with it a little more and see what happens. In the meantime I will continue the Nomad diet as outlined in the book, at least until I use up my Nomad supplements. I really have had great improvement in health since March. I'm now off all of my allergy meds. I guess another reason I'm hesitant/reluctant to change now?

Hmmmm. So, I might have to change my screen name to Explorer girl. . .

Again, thanks everybody for comments.  
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It feels like an identity crisis! I can't be both Nomad and Explorer, so one calculation is wrong and now I am back full circle to wondering if maybe I am not a supertaster after all, but just a taster. Maybe I need to reconsider some of my answers.

There are notable differences in the Explorer and Nomad diets (I did run both). I'm going to play with it a little more and see what happens. In the meantime I will continue the Nomad diet as outlined in the book, at least until I use up my Nomad supplements. I really have had great improvement in health since March. I'm now off all of my allergy meds. I guess another reason I'm hesitant/reluctant to change now?



If the Nomad is working and you are happy with it, stay with it a while longer.

The label is only important in understanding the dominant approach. Since SWAMI is a tailored blend you are getting a mix that is considered best for what you input. Change the inputs and the label might change. Do your best on the questions and try to limit your health issues to those that are most pressing to get more focused results.

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Thanks. Sometimes I wish I wasn't so darn picky about everything
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I found this posted by Dr. D in the software updates thread:

"SYMPTOM

You chose to have SWAMI calculate your GenoType and it is different from the result of using the calculators in The GenoType Diet Book.

PROBLEM/ EXPLANATION

SWAMI Xpress uses it's own calculation library to calculate GenoType. It is much more in-depth and flexible than the system used in the book, so it is not unlikely that one could result in a GenoType that is at variance from the book.

However, SWAMI does actually perform the simple book calculation as well as it's own calculation library subroutines. If it notices that the two results differ, SWAMI will automatically enter a 'hybridize mode' and synthesize food values from a 'blend' of GenoType and blood type values.

STATUS

Alerted."

Still thinking about how to proceed.
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Still tweaking Swami-

I am determined to get to the bottom of my inconsistent GT results- sorry, I can't simply accept that the calculations are bigger, better, etc. with Swami. Especially since the results are quite different, and something is nagging me about the whole thing, anyway. I simply need a better understanding of how it works.

I ran Swami again after adding my Myers-Briggs personality (INTJ).

I was Swamied as Explorer (again) but this time I paid more attention to HOW it was calculated.

Copied directly from my report as determined by Swami:

"The Explorer Inventory

These are the findings which identified your GenoType as Explorer. To learn more about these tests and measurements, consult chapters 3 and 4 in The GenoType Diet book.

Calculator Points:

    Torso to Leg Ratio /Characteristic of Explorer.
        Your torso is longer than your legs.
        Your upper leg longer than your lower leg.
    Your ABO blood type (B) is often found in Explorer GenoTypes."

Then it lists the strength testing, of which I fit with 12 points. My total fit to GT Explorer is 42%.

So from this report, I have gathered that the only 2 main points used to calculate were one body measurement ratio and my blood type. No mention of Rh or secretor status, which I thought was extremely important, among other things. Also note the reference to the book.

----------Now--------------

Here is my Nomad report (GT manual input by me):

"The Nomad Inventory


Although GT6 Nomad was not what SWAMI Xpress would have calculated as your exact GenoType, here are the findings which are often seen in this GenoType.

Calculator Points:

    Ring to Index Finger Ratios /Characteristic of Nomad.
        Your index-ring finger ratio in symmetrical to your gender.
    Your ABO blood type (B) is characteristic of Nomad.
    Rh positive blood type is a strong marker for Nomad GenoType.
    Secretor status is often observed in Nomad GenoType."


Notice it NOW includes my Rh and secretor status, giving me 4 calculator points vs 2 with Explorer. I also had 10 strength test points, only 2 less than Explorer.

This is WHY I wonder about my accuracy on some less clear cut questions- a point or 2 difference may be significant.

By the way, most of the Swami profile questions are exactly the same as in the book (It's called the Intermediate calculator). Swami adds the personality type, ethnicity, and the specific genetic markers.

So, NOW I think I know what is going on with Swami: I think it is doing precisely what Dr. D previously advised clients NOT to do- it is giving weight to the Intermediate calculations and strength testing the GT's BEFORE taking all MAJOR points into consideration first (torso, leg, finger measures plus the blood type, Rh, and secretor).

This method is completely off base from the book, which narrows the GT by blood type, Rh, and secretor FIRST (with torso, leg and finger measures), THEN you can strength test the result to find your goodness of fit.

These are two different methodologies, which for me yield significantly different results in diet/food list. I suppose this situation is similar to those who were ardent followers of the BTD only to be upended when the GTD was introduced. For some it was a positive transition with successes, for others not so much and they returned to the BTD to yield the best results (as I've read on other threads).

So, what to do? Well, for now at least, I'm rejecting my Swamied Explorer GT and going to focus on both the book and Swami Nomad diet. I will try to emphasize similarities and avoid/limit vast differences, all to my best judgement.

I can always integrate more Explorer choices later on to experiment IF I need to right?

I promise I have analyzed this to death and I am now satisfied enough with my decision to leave this alone and move on. Whew!  
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Quoted from Nomad Girl


I ran Swami again after adding my Myers-Briggs personality (INTJ).

I was Swamied as Explorer (again) but this time I paid more attention to HOW it was calculated.
Copied directly from my report as determined by Swami:

"The Explorer Inventory

These are the findings which identified your GenoType as Explorer. To learn more about these tests and measurements, consult chapters 3 and 4 in The GenoType Diet book.

Calculator Points:

    Torso to Leg Ratio /Characteristic of Explorer.
        Your torso is longer than your legs.
        Your upper leg longer than your lower leg.
    Your ABO blood type (B) is often found in Explorer GenoTypes."

Then it lists the strength testing, of which I fit with 12 points. My total fit to GT Explorer is 42%.

So from this report, I have gathered that the only 2 main points used to calculate were one body measurement ratio and my blood type. No mention of Rh or secretor status, which I thought was extremely important, among other things.

)


the nonmention of these factors does not mean they were not considered in the GenoType calculation.

All the factors are considered.

Listed were only the factors that positively contributed to determining that you were an explorer.

These were so strong thez overwhelmed the factors that were positive for othe GenoTypes.  Values associated with rejected GenoTzpes are not included in SWAMI reports.

This does not  mean that they are not considered.


Incidently, SWAMI use thre passes to deterine GenoTypes and to be confident that all factors are given proper weights in the calculation.


MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.
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Yes, you're completely right.

What I should have said is that Rh and secretor status were determined not to positively correlate with the Explorer GT, thus rejected by SWAMI in favor of other stronger factors for SWAMI to have chosen Explorer GT.

I did not mean to say that they were overlooked by SWAMI.  

However, I am still convinced that the process SWAMI is using is not consistent with manual GT testing (completed by the person using Dr. D's guidelines as described in his book). Furthermore, I don't believe SWAMI's method is superior, necessarily. It arrives at the GT differently, using mostly the same information.

In one scenario (the manual method in the book), the only factors used for determination of GT is the Basic measurements (torso, leg and finger lengths) and the blood type, Rh, and secretor status. Those alone give you the GT. The strength testing occurs after determination of GT only for the purpose of measuring the strength of that GT expression in you or "goodness of fit". Here, there is an order of operations (like in math).

In the SWAMI scenario, it appears that Basic measurements, blood type, Rh, and secretor status, as well as strength testing are all computed simultaneously, with certain weights assigned to all factors, so that factors can be accepted or rejected depending on that factor's weight against the others.

So, with SWAMI, I am still questioning the method of giving more weight to the sum total of less accurate subjective factors (such as PROP tasting, finger prints, body type, personality type, etc.) in favor of concrete/objective factors (such as blood type, Rh, and secretor status).


Excerpts from Dr. D's intro to Swami as printed on the report:

"While it is hard to blend both systems [the BTD and GTD]
on your own, working from each book (you more or less have to choose a system and stick with it) it is very easy to develop even more
specific and personalized diet plans for any individual by using the tremendous data crunching power of modern computers.
Computer programs can rapidly analyze hundreds of different foods in a split second; and make tens of thousands of decisions based
on how we program it.
"

"[Dr. D] wrote the SWAMI Xpress software to harness the power of computers and artificial intelligence,
using their tremendous precision and speed to help tailor unique one-of-a kind diets to individuals"

"what follows is undoubtedly the most custom-tailored diet that science and technology are currently capable of producing. SWAMI
Xpress is capable of determining your GenoType and prescribing the appropriate GenoType Diet for you, but it can do much, much
more. From its extensive knowledge base, SWAMI Xpress can evaluate each of over 700 foods for over 200 individual attributes"

I think what Dr. D was trying to say is that in some instances, SWAMI is really meant to be a faster, easier, and more user-friendly way than trying to do it on your own.

So with all of that said, I choose to calculate my own GT manually and let SWAMI do the diet and food calculations. I think that's why SWAMI gives us the option to manually input a GT, overriding its own determination.

Because sometimes doing it with the paper and pencil is just better than whipping out the calculator.

I think others should also investigate their manually figured GT vs. the SWAMI GT if perhaps they are not doing so well with their SWAMI GTD. If you're struggling with the foods or if the selected GT doesn't seem to match you at all, I think it's at least reasonable to look at it.

I would be curious to know just how many users have experienced different self-determined GT (using known blood type, Rh, and secretor status) vs. the SWAMI GT.

Just wondering- I swear I'm not slamming SWAMI. I just like to know how the clock ticks (and maybe take it all apart and put it back together, too).  
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So, NOW I think I know what is going on with Swami: I think it is doing precisely what Dr. D previously advised clients NOT to do- it is giving weight to the Intermediate calculations and strength testing the GT's BEFORE taking all MAJOR points into consideration first (torso, leg, finger measures plus the blood type, Rh, and secretor).

This method is completely off base from the book, which narrows the GT by blood type, Rh, and secretor FIRST (with torso, leg and finger measures), THEN you can strength test the result to find your goodness of fit.

These are two different methodologies, which for me yield significantly different results in diet/food list. I suppose this situation is similar to those who were ardent followers of the BTD only to be upended when the GTD was introduced. For some it was a positive transition with successes, for others not so much and they returned to the BTD to yield the best results (as I've read on other threads).

This is well said.
My guess is that for some -not all- your deduction is correct; the two different methodologies issue in a different GT-assignment.
And: Since variables are in a state of flux throughout one's lifetime, SWAMI calls for reassessments along the way.
Therefore, you might consider the following variable, which I personally find to be rather crucial: Whether or not you have the temperament to keep consulting SWAMI with alterations/ discoveries, in order to get a new read-out, versus adapting to one diet ("The Nomad Diet"), sticking with it, and changing it along the way according to your own intuitive or other-sourced deductions.
I have found that many here do feel secure with SWAMI's  calculations, above and beyond recommendations from other sources including their own intuition. I am one who am not comfortable with such an approach, having been interested in the mid-1990s in D'Adamo's work precisely because it jibed with where I'd been independently led anyway. Speaking only for myself, I am not inclined to de-condition a faculty that has stood me in good stead for over half a century, which faculty caused me to admire Dr. D'Adamo's work in the first place. Not every aspect of the man's work is appropriate for everyone, and I am impressed, Nomad Girl, that so early in your acquaintance with it, you are perceiving both the discrepancy and the solution, as well as articulating it formidably well!
Brava.


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I use a combination of SWAMI and my own intuition. I trust SWAMI for the food list itself- on occasion I've allowed "Avoids" to slip into my diet, and I always feel the negative health effects. There are too many foods and I never would have identified all of my "bad foods" though intuition and elimination diets alone.

But the portion sizes and frequencies need to be altered to accommodate my changing health and energy levels. Those can change from day to day, and I only update SWAMI when there's a reason to (like when I verified my secretor status, and eventually I'll enter menopause.) I've tried sticking strictly to SWAMI portions, and I got weak and dizzy from hunger after 2 days. So I trust my intuition for that.


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I use a combination of SWAMI and my own intuition. I trust SWAMI for the food list itself- on occasion I've allowed "Avoids" to slip into my diet, and I always feel the negative health effects. There are too many foods and I never would have identified all of my "bad foods" though intuition and elimination diets alone.

But the portion sizes and frequencies need to be altered to accommodate my changing health and energy levels. Those can change from day to day, and I only update SWAMI when there's a reason to (like when I verified my secretor status, and eventually I'll enter menopause.) I've tried sticking strictly to SWAMI portions, and I got weak and dizzy from hunger after 2 days. So I trust my intuition for that.


Ditto


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0 rh- secr ( Hunter or Explorer )
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...portion sizes and frequencies need to be altered to accommodate my changing health and energy levels. Those can change from day to day...I trust my intuition for that.

Thus edited, ditto for me, too.  



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I find that i'm always hungry on the explorer diet (working for me) and previous when i tried nomad diet, i felt full all the time.

SWAMI gives me a very tiny portion even when i say i workout. I'm suspecting i'm going through a catabolic state -_-


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I can certainly relate to the "identity crisis" because SWAMI sent me from a Warrior to an Explorer. What I can accept beyond a shadow of a doubt, though, is that the proof of SWAMI is in the pudding! That is all I need! Because it works!


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