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Debra+
Sunday, September 20, 2009, 12:56pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Stuck this one.   Or should I say 'stickied.'  

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Quoted from Henriette Bsec
Well I have come to the conclusion that it is
REALLY important to let the database decide[color=blue][/color] your Swami Genotype !!!



I agree with you here!  

I  would NEVER have thought I was an Explorer, so I am glad I ended up letting it choose for me.  

My SWAMI is a mixture of:

BTD for Type O
GTD Hunter
GTD Explorer

It is funny but I remember saying things on this forum in the past and now I know why they didn't quite click with the Hunter Diet, things like:

     - I didn't feel the need for protein at every breakfast.  

Eggs have become a neutral for me so I eat far less of them now.  I am happy having a couple of fruits for my breakfast.

     - I am happy to go with meatless meals (Veg Protein) for a while, but then I get an overwhelming desire for a big juicy, greasy hamburger.

My plan now has far far less meat protein and more fish and veg protein which is more in line with what feels right for me.

     - I couldn't do the amount of exercise recommended for Hunters

It was too overwhelming for me to do 40 minutes everyday of intense exercise.


It all makes sense to me now that I know I am such a blend.  I love my SWAMI plan!

Tea Rose






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SheriBerry
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This thread makes me both excited and scared to receive  my SWAMI!

How much of it relies on just  choosing  something ?  such as jaw description?    so where can I get help on choosing correctly once I get that??   I'm already apprehensive about making  incorrect assumptions!!
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Well look carefully at the pictures showing different jaws and ask people what you look like or take a picture of you!!! and you dicide.
Maybe it doesnt matter as much as it did to me( since I am just a 37 % explorer


ENFP -naturalist, visual/spatial and musical/verbal/chatty Dane- Mother to DD Emma age 19,
0 rh- secr ( Hunter or Explorer )
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or use the protractor in the GTD kit.....that gadget is accurate enough!


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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I redid mine and came out a gatherer (43%). Tried that diet from the book measurements and for 2 weeks and was really sick. Tried the supplements and was even sicker; found out I'm allergic to yerba mate. When I switched to the Hunter diet and supplements felt much better; after I got over the 32 blisters in my mouth ( figured it was super detox) .

Gather puts torso longer than legs which is not true, mine are equal and I'm a supertaster with very pronounceed shoveling of the upper teeth, have sharp and fairly pointy incisors. You can also see the tendons and veins in arms.  Finger prints don't match gatherer either, mine are all whorls on both hands, except one finger one each has an arch.Personality questionaire I only had 6 for a  gatherer and 21 for hunter, weird Hah!!!


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Very interesting, Kitty!

I bought the Genotype book when it came out..  at the very beginning I  thought I was a Gatherer, but then I found that I was doing the finger measurements incorrectly.... I have labeled myself a Hunter now...
I have  just ordered the SWAMI and   have been reading  posts here... I got my kit out again and did my fingers and for a moment thought I was a Gatherer again...  I watched the YouTube measurement guides... did it exactly so...and I really am a Hunter, I THINK... will get the Swami to see...  I hope I am a Hunter and not a Gatherer because I  see very little on the Gatherer list that agrees with me...... but I will follow whichever..  just can't wait for the SWAMI... has it helped many of you  nail down more specific foods just for you?
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Quoted Text
I hope I am a Hunter and not a Gatherer because I  see very little on the Gatherer list that agrees with me.


no worries, swami will give you a personalized plan, right for you.


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Quoted from SheriBerry
has it helped many of you  nail down more specific foods just for you?


Yes


MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.
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My Swami only had 43% as gatherer but no other percentages were given, what is the remaining 57%? The swami cut my oil down to 3 TBSP a week from 6TBSP, that really worries me. When I cut fat to 1 tsp a day on Weight Watchers the heels of my feet had cracks 1/4 deep and my hair fell out, also tired and draggy. Within a week of adding more fat back in felt much better. Many of the foods are the same with a few tweeks but some of the ones that changed to neutral; like pineapple juice and sweet potatoes make me feel the best after eating. Still have doubts about following but will give it a try. Went to bed sick last night and very bloated. Will continue to take the Hunter 3 Pack, have not felt this good or slept this well for years. One week after starting the Hunter Pack I started sleeping all night, without waking up every few hours.


"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality."John Lennon

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Quoted from kittykar1
My Swami only had 43% as gatherer but no other percentages were given, what is the remaining 57%?


For a discussion of the percentages see this thread:

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1249043756/


MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.
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Thanks C_Sharp


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Quoted from kittykar1
My Swami only had 43% as gatherer but no other percentages were given, what is the remaining 57%? ... Still have doubts about following but will give it a try.


I sympathize -- I was a Hunter before Swami, now I'm an Explorer. All the advice on the board was to just suck it up and be glad.   

I'm giving it a try, too, even down to the supplements. Best of luck and please let us know how it turns out.


O- nonsecretor, troubled Swami Explorer, INFP. Happily married to an A+. Blissfully, mercifully child-free.
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Going to give it my best shot but not the supps for Gatherer was allergic to the one with yerba mate tea, so will stay on the Hunter pack.


"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality."John Lennon

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Quoted from Henriette Bsec
Well I have come to the conclusion that it is
REALLY important to let the database decide[color=blue][/color] your Swami Genotype !!!

I actually think it is a bit confusing that you can choose to overrule the database- just because you "feel " that you belong to another genotype.

Since I only have 37 % Explorer in me
- I guess that is why I changed from Nomad ( based on book) to gatherer( put wrong jaw facts) and now explorer.

I have tried the regular explorer diet in 2 months
and felt absolutely lousy ...



now when I compare my new swami version it is VERY different- it is truly a Henriette version  

I used to say I was a "chocolate, dairy, egg eating" explorer - well I am now - since milk and eggyolks are superfoods and chocolate is diamond

It will be interesting making a new shopping list  



You must know yourself very well!
I also made the mistake of following the Explorer diet when I first got started instead of the Explorer/Teacher combo I use now that I have SWAMI. Definately better and easier!


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The GenoType labels are less important with the software versus a 'hard coded' book. In SWAMI GenoType (the professional software) we've already gone to using the descriptive 'epigenetic superfamily' since that is what they really are.


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This is interesting since I was assigned my type by the earlier newsletter adviser.. I then tried to fool around with the weight of 60 pounds less and some other things and no matter what I did - I stayed the same..  and they did not take many factors .. just a few basics..so I am glad I am not having this issue it would truly make me crazy.. bad enough I went from O to Gatherer.. I am not RIGID but I am LOYAL.. just 2 words here -but food- that would drive me nuts..    


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Quoted Text
I was assigned my type by the earlier newsletter adviser.


are you referring to the first GTD site?
the one administered by Waterfront?


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Quoted Text
The GenoType labels are less important with the software versus a 'hard coded' book. In SWAMI GenoType (the professional software) we've already gone to using the descriptive 'epigenetic superfamily' since that is what they really are.
The compromise concept of Genotype allows beginners to hook on to a simple, statistically valid entity.  Most people, who just need weight loss, can just work with that and gain the other benefits.  Others, often labelled as Explorers can talk out their issues, take the blood-neutral Explorer diet, or go to a fully individualized diet (in any order they like   )

I don't know if Dr. D' Adamo was tempted to make a three or four versions of the Explorer diet for the book, but keeping to the conceptual framework was a "mistake" (as my wife incorrectly states) that was required for the sake of integrity alone.

This is how new systems are created; at least one concept that is at right angles to "accepted reality" must be incorporated.  Anyone who has difficulty with what I am saying can look to the books of Edward de Bono.  He has many concrete examples that will give you an appreciation for the more abstract thinking here.


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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Quoted from VictoriousLiving



You must know yourself very well!
I also made the mistake of following the Explorer diet when I first got started instead of the Explorer/Teacher combo I use now that I have SWAMI. Definately better and easier!


So which one does swami call you?  I believe that is what I am also.  An Explorer/Teacher combo.  


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Me, too!  I'm right on the hunter/explorer border, so whenever any small thing changes (this time, it was my most recent bloodwork) I switch status according to swami.

It actually seems like my recent switch was due to improved good health having followed the diet now for 7 months.  My allergies are way down, my bloodwork is perfect, my fingerprints are more clear, less white lines, no sugar cravings, my thyroid has stabilized... it's absolutely amazing, especially because I've had long periods of time in there where I'm not following it 100%.  

The funny thing is, I'd assumed I was - at core - an Explorer (allergies, nervous system and blood issues, nonnie) with overlaying inflammation symptoms that were consistent with Hunter.   In other words, I thought my inflammation would clear up and reveal that I was even more Explorer than before.  Instead, it seems to be the other way around.  As in, my core issues are inflammation and I had nervous symptoms and allergies on top of the inflammation, if that makes sense.

Or, I could be totally off... just my intuitive understanding.


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Quoted from kittykar1
Going to give it my best shot but not the supps for Gatherer was allergic to the one with yerba mate tea, so will stay on the Hunter pack.


That was the tip off that maybe you're a Hunter.  I'm taking the Warrior Catalyst and I really love it. It gives me energy and lifts my mood!  Great stuff!   I know of someone else here who thought she was  Warrior and tried the Warrior supplements and felt terrible on them. She since found out she was a Teacher.
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How has WHEAT affected   anyone I am really new ,at the diet. It  has helped me with Thyroid weight and feeling better, I have lost 12 lbs but with a lot workouts type a was rough to give up the Meat and potatoes
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