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Gale D.
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I recently found out my father is blood type 0-positive, and my daughter is O-negative.

Does this make me A+>O ?

I don't see a place in SWAMI to enter this detail. Is it not important?

Here is a neat blood type calculator:

http://www.biology.arizona.edu/human_bio/problem_sets/blood_types/btcalcA5.swf







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D_Gale19,

That link did not work for me.




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D_Gale19,

That link did not work for me.


The link is to a swf (Small Web Format) document. You must have a player  to view these files.



Downloads of players are free:

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/


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I recently found out my father is blood type 0-positive, and my daughter is O-negative.

Does this make me A+>O ?



I do not understand what A+>O means.

If you are an A and your daughter is an O. Your genotype is Ao.

If you are Rh+ and your daughter is Rh-. You have one Rh+ allele (dominant and expressed) and an Rh- allele (recessive and not expressed).

SWAMI only considers phenotype (what is expressed) and ignores genotype.


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If you are an A and your daughter is an O. Your genotype is Ao.


yes, I meant "Ao" - just didn't know how to write it showing the +/- part.


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If you are Rh+ and your daughter is Rh-. You have one Rh+ allele (dominant and expressed) and an Rh- allele (recessive and not expressed).

SWAMI only considers phenotype (what is expressed) and ignores genotype.


Does that mean I must be A-positive o-negative?

Also, I'm wondering why SWAMI does not take the second part into account? Is it irrelevant?




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knowing your secretor status and subtype A1 or A2, as well as MN status would be more relevant ......in my point of view....

otherwise there would be a box for those other traits to check,
and there ain t


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D_Gale19,

That link did not work for me.


Hey, good work on the photo Cristina!



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Also, I'm wondering why SWAMI does not take the second part into account? Is it irrelevant?



SWAMI considers what is expressed. The genes that are not expressed (the recessive traits) in your body are not important (not quite true but close enough).

The dominant traits are what are expressed in your body and affect your appearance, metabolism, ...


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I've had a similar question where both my parents are O+ and I am A+...all four of my children are O+...their father being O+.

My mom, a retired RN, calls me a "genetic throwback" lol....gee thanks mom!


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Kristi:

If both of your parents are O and your an A,
you might want to retest your blood type.

If you are actually an O this would change your diet considerably.

Notes on possible blood types of parents and children:

Here is a neat blood type calculator:

http://www.biology.arizona.edu/human_bio/problem_sets/blood_types/btcalcA5.swf


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If both of your parents are O and your an A,
you might want to retest your blood type.


If two parents are Oa, couldn't the 2 recessive a's make a child A?




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If two parents are Oa, couldn't the 2 recessive a's make a child A?


Doesn't work that way. O is always recessive. A and B are always codominant, hence the AB blood group. A and O, ABO genotype, will always be A because A is always dominant to O. B and O, ABO genotype, will always be B because B is always dominant to O.

BTW, the Dominant allele is always written first. AO or BO.


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Doesn't work that way. O is always recessive. A and B are always codominant, hence the AB blood group. A and O, ABO genotype, will always be A because A is always dominant to O. B and O, ABO genotype, will always be B because B is always dominant to O.

BTW, the Dominant allele is always written first. AO or BO.


Obviously I have more studying to do! Do I really need to understand all the details though? I don't like to retain what I don't really need.




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Do I really need to understand all the details though? I don't like to retain what I don't really need.


Then all you need to know is that you are blood type A.

You can safely ignore all the information about AA and Ao, it has no bearing on any of the diets.


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If two parents are Oa


an O can only be Oo.......

it takes two Os to make an O type


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Quoted from Kristi
I've had a similar question where both my parents are O+ and I am A+...all four of my children are O+...their father being O+.
My mom, a retired RN, calls me a "genetic throwback" lol....gee thanks mom!
Kristi


If both your parents are an O, you are an O.     Better re-test. You're following the wrong diet.
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lol....I've had the lab test my blood type...AND...did 3 home blood tests...all show A+.

My mom, a retired nurse is for sure O...and my dad, who has passed, was also an O.... I have his military card and his hospital records as well...AND... I look just like my dads son, my half brother.  

I'd LOVE to be an O like all of my children...would make meals in our GT/SWAMI house sooooo much easier!!!

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an O can only be Oo.......

it takes two Os to make an O type


That is helpful, thank you Lola!

So that means my ex must be Oo?  But it doesn't mean I am Ao, does it?





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Well maybe one of your parents is not your real parent. Perhaps you and your brother have a different parent. I guess that could be a shock but... if it is physically impossible for you to be Type A then I am not sure what else to think.
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So that means my ex must be Oo?  But it doesn't mean I am Ao, does it?



If a blood type A individual has an O parent
that A individual must be an Ao.

If a blood type A individual has an O child
that A individual must be an Ao.

If a blood type A individual has a B parent
that A individual must be an Ao.

If a blood type A individual has a B child
that A individual must be an Ao.


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I recently found out my father is blood type 0-positive, and my daughter is O-negative.


Since you are blood type A with an O parent you must be Ao.

We also know you must be Ao since you would not have a type O child if you were AA.

The Father of your O child must be blood type O (genotype of all Os is oo)


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Kristi:

If both of your parents are O and your an A,
you might want to retest your blood type.

If you are actually an O this would change your diet considerably.

Notes on possible blood types of parents and children:

Here is a neat blood type calculator:

http://www.biology.arizona.edu/human_bio/problem_sets/blood_types/btcalcA5.swf


or re-test your parents if that is possible




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if your child s an O

you have to be an Ao


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My mom, a retired nurse is for sure O...and my dad, who has passed, was also an O.... I have his military card and his hospital records as well...AND... I look just like my dads son, my half brother.Kristi


Military records if they include blood type are frequently wrong. That is the reason why hospital blood banks will not accept just any documentation as proof of blood type. And thank goodness they don't. Blood type must be verified by a properly collected blood sample and proof positive identification from the patient. If you are absolutely sure of your's and your mother's blood type then your father would have to be either an A or an AB in order for you to have inherited an A blood group gene. Otherwise, there is some incorrect information regarding your parents blood types.


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Good thread.. Since i think many people labor under these incorrect assumptions...


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Monogamy is also something that can be not always consistent. I have to point that out. It is not a fun thing to point out, but... there is something going on.

It would not be the first time someone got a record wrong or someone found out someone was not their real parent.
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