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Gale D.
Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 7:38pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I suppose a family can run multiple SWAMI's from a single computer, since the software is Internet-based.

So let's say we set up a dedicated laptop for our genotyping partnership, and decide to go with SWAMI-personal instead of SWAMI-pro (until the Conference next year when I can get certified).

Let's say that 15 out of 40 clients don't have computers of their own, so cannot access SWAMI at home.

Can we run all of their SWAMI's (and our own for that matter), from the laptop?




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Every time you log-in you use the user name and password that is sent to you, so there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to.  And if you want to save them all as PDF files, just name each one under the clint's name, like SWAMIjoesmith, or something like that.  




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yes, no problem....


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Still better off using SWAMI GenoType...


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Gale D.
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Still better off using SWAMI GenoType...


Sorry Dr. D, not sure what you mean here.





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I thought some of the info "locks" like measurements and blood type so you can't do that?  
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Gale D.
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I thought some of the info "locks" like measurements and blood type so you can't do that?  


Yes, I think things "lock" for each individual.

Since SWAMI is Internet-based, I could, for example, log on to access my own SWAMI, then log off, and next log on to access my husband's SWAMI.

It's like having MSWord-2003 and MSWord-2007 on the same computer -- the programs are the same, but each one can open and run separately.

The next question about logging on to SWAMI would be:

Can the same computer, using 2 different Internet browsers, or 2 separate tabs in the same browser, log onto 2 SWAMI programs at once??




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D-Gale call NAP and ask for Bob. He can answer all your questions about the professional version.

The professional version is better if you plan on working with clients over multiple visits.


Not to complicate your life even more but you might want to look into a Breath Hydrogen tester.


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The professional version is better if you plan on working with clients over multiple visits.


I know Andrea, but my physician partner will not be able to learn and run SWAMI-Pro.

From response on the forum about a layperson running it off the cuff -- Well. Even a Master IFHI said she can't run it, so what hope is there for me to do so?




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There a settings in SWAMI GenoType (some are calling this edition Pro) that allow you to run it like SWAMI Xpress.

You simply ignore the additional settings that are not available in the Xpress edition.

You tell it to use the pragmatics module.

Pragmatics is what Xpress use so you should get the same results (or very close) if you choose this option and do not invoke anything else.


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There a settings in SWAMI GenoType (some are calling this edition Pro) that allow you to run it like SWAMI Xpress.

You simply ignore the additional settings that are not available in the Xpress edition.

You tell it to use the pragmatics module.

Pragmatics is what Xpress use so you should get the same results (or very close) if you choose this option and do not invoke anything else.


That is wonderful to know, and will help, no doubt, with our decision! Thanks





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Second note on SWAMI GenoType.  If you do not know what additional settings do in the GenoType edition you should just leave them blank.

But if you are running a medical practice you will have medical history on clients and know their current health conditions. Some of the additional setting are obvious when you have that information.

So if you have a patient that has been tested and you know he/she is suffering from copper toxicity and should not be consuming much copper in his/her diet, you would probably want to choose to deemphasize copper containing foods(a little check box does this). If patient later recovers from the condition you can uncheck this box and rerun SWAMI.

If you have a patient that has been tested and is deficient in Magnesium you can check a box to moderately or strongly emphasize magnesium. This will cause foods containing large amounts of magnesium to be rated higher than they otherwise would.

If you have a patient with a fluoride allergy, you can check a box to strongly deemphasize foods with fluoride.

You just need to avoid the temptation to just check the stuff you like/dislike. You should have a reason for choosing settings with a particular patient.  

Many of us do not like fluoride and so we might be tempted to deemphasize it on all our clients, but if we did we would probably be causing green tea to be rated as an avoid for every client.

For regular patients Dr. D. has already considered the trade offs for various foods. Normally it is best to rely on his judgement and accept the default values. But if you are treating a patient for a particular condition there may be settings that are obvious knowing the medical history.

For things that you do not know about or understand just leave them blank and accept Dr. Ds defaults.

For most people I recommend the XPRESS edition.

For everyone I recommend getting as much training as possible. Knowledge is power.  This is a tool that will allow one to apply their medical knowledge.

If you do not know something just take defaults and set SWAMI pragmatics to "Yes".


I wish I had time to increase my knowledge to use this tool more effectively. But I would not let the fact that my knowledge is weak stop me from using the product.

The Doctor you work with may never use the product directly, but he can certainly advise you on what settings would apply to a particular patient.


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I feel more hopeful today about running SWAMI pro than I did yesterday! Thank you (as always) C_sharp!  




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Another issue of using SWAMI Xpress or SWAMI GenoType in a medical practice, is what is your clinics mode of operation:

If you see patients rarely and most are self sufficient and knowledgable about their own care (and at least semi computer literate), SWAMI Xpress might be the better option. With Xpress you can give them full access to their account. This allows the patient the ability to use the cookbook, the weekly meal planner, and make adjustments to their profile and regenerate diet plans. (Also to change their password so you lose access to their account).

If you see your patients regularly and do not think they will want to use the software themselves for meal planning, recipes, ..., you would want to use SWAMI GenoType. SWAMI GenoType means you get one sign in that you (not the patients!) use to access SWAMI. With SWAMI GenoType you will be able to generate printed reports (or pdf files) for the patient, but they will have no direct access to the software.

If you have 30 patients in the clinic that you are using SWAMI diets with, with SWAMI Xpress you will have 30 accounts with username/passwords to keep track of. With SWAMI GenoType you will only have one account with a single username and password to keep track of.  When you login you can see a listing of all the patients you have SWAMIed and easily switch between them.  

I do not want 30 more passwords to keep track of, so I would always opt for the single sign in. It just makes life more simple.


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You did not ask this, but I thought I would share anyway.

With most medical clinics that I deal with in the states, $70 for SWAMI Xpress or $15 for GenoType kit is not a consequential sum of money.  This is true even for the clinics that are free clinics/reduced price clinics that offer services to the poor.  Now these clinics are too chaotic and people are moved through too rapidly to use this software effectively, but $70 is still small compared to the total amount spent on supplies in a month.

So if they are considering using SWAMI in the practice, I would think asking them to spend $70 for you to become familiar with the software would be acceptable.

You need some experience running the software to intelligently decide whether it would be useful for your clinic.

If the clinic ends up deciding to not use SWAMI, $70 would be well worth it for providing you the information need to make the decision and avoiding the expense of $899 (or whatever level of GenoType you might choose initially).

If you decided you want to use either multipe Xpress or one GenoType license, $70 for the training/experience in using the software before deploying it in the clinic.

Before you try the software, I think you are mostly speculating about whether it would be useful. Once you use it and follow the diet recommendations for several months you will know if whether it useful or not.


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You did not ask this, but I thought I would share anyway.

With most medical clinics that I deal with in the states, $70 for SWAMI Xpress or $15 for GenoType kit is not a consequential sum of money.  This is true even for the clinics that are free clinics/reduced price clinics that offer services to the poor.  Now these clinics are too chaotic and people are moved through too rapidly to use this software effectively, but $70 is still small compared to the total amount spent on supplies in a month.

So if they are considering using SWAMI in the practice, I would think asking them to spend $70 for you to become familiar with the software would be acceptable.

You need some experience running the software to intelligently decide whether it would be useful for your clinic.


Yes, this is exactly what we discussed. We plan to run SWAMI-xpress on the 2 of us first, adding add clients one at a time until we have a batch of about twelve in order to track results for several months --  before making a decision to go practice-wide with the concept.

I suspect we will expand after my partner sees immediate results on himself. I gave him the food lists last Thursday.





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