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JJR
Friday, August 21, 2009, 1:53pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Kyosha Nim
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Well, I went to an IFHI practitioner who I don't think knew what she was doing.  She measured my one a chair that went soft and had a thick pad and it changed everything and she came up with a warrior.  But I wasn't there to argue with her.  She also admittedly said she wasn't trained for it.  I think I did a better job myself.  I had my wife help me too.  It always comes down to my upper and lower leg measurment.  They're real close and if one is longer than the other it's a teacher and vice versa would be a nomad.  The doctor I go to is GREAT and does everything homeopathic and uses BTD with a combination of Westin Price stuff.  (They do have a little controversy on soy with D'Adamo, but that's a side note and it's a small thing imho).  And they have no problem with the GTD, but they are not totally trained in it either. So I didn't get measured by them.

I love eggs and eat them regularly and they seem to do good for me.  

But, my thought is there may be some kind of synergistic diet that will help protect my liver and kidneys that the teacher diet isn't really doing.  For example, I think I'm having a kidney stone at present and the gal at my doctors office said don't eat blueberries.  There is some kind of acid in them that is harder on the kidneys.  I forgot which type of acid.  Well, it's a superfood on the Teacher diet and I eat them pretty regularly.  More than once a week.  I mean, I have no clue what all these foods do and why.  Many of them I should say.  I'm not the scientist.   So I'm sure I'd benefit from this swami.  I have a feeling it would tell me not to eat peanuts because of the mold issue.  Oh well, maybe that would make me feel better.

So SWAMI doesn't have you input your measurements?  What kind of questions does it ask????


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"Finally brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things." - Phillipians 4:8
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Quoted from Chanur
Heidi, I had a little more time so I did a quick Google search and found this much for you to get you started should you care to look further:

http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=8905
http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/521749
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v417/n6884/full/417010a.html

My own personal (and therefore not scientific) theory is that both ideas/theories are correct. AB's can be just that A+B or we could be a fusion of two different types (separate eggs/non-identical twins).

As Shelly points out above, one of the two (A or B) will be dominant over the other but who knows which one it'll be. To me, this implies that they are not truly co-dominant and therefore the theory I mentioned does hold validity.

It would be interesting to see how many of us AB's are from families with known sets of twins.

edit: typo, again


Thanks Chanur. I did do some looking yesterday but didn't find much about these other theories. I still have a hard time with the merging egg and shared blood ideas. Fraternal twins are extremely unlikely to share a placenta (ony one documented case) so there can't be much transfer going on that way.  I couldn't read the whole atricle about the boy who was a merging of two eggs, but somehow I get the feeling he has more then just an unusual blood type.

The absorbed twin theory makes more sense but even then it seems that if the babies were of two blood types (one A one B) that there would be problems with antibodies like when transfusing those types together.

There are some very interesting stories though, like this one:

http://www.ask.com/bar?q=absor.....rbed_Twin_s_Children

Back on topic here  

The SWAMI does require your measurements ABNoWay. And regardless of what Genotype you end up with the diet is just for you so it is bound to be better then the book     . Highly worth the $69.






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So SWAMI doesn't have you input your measurements?  What kind of questions does it ask????
As Heidi said above, SWAMI does have you input you measurements. I'd use the measurements that make you a TEACHER since you know you don't feel well on NOMAD. It even says in the GTD book that if a diet is correct for you it will make you feel better, not worse.

It asks for all the biometrics (strength testing in the book), all the advanced table info. (charts in back of book), a short family health history on yourself, any siblings you may have, and your parents (also like the book), less than five gender specific questions, one gender specific question about the Nat'l Geo. geno project (which is 100% optional so if you don't have the info. it will still work for you. Considering the price of the Nat'l Geo. project I tend to think most people will not have that particular info.), a few what I call miscellaneous items that you will know or can easily find out for free, a section about some specific medical issues & testing (you would probably know the answers, but could ask them of your doctor to make sure), and then you set the SWAMI settings - do you want to let it pick your genotype or will you tell it which one to use (I recommend you let it pick for you),  where you want your geno harmonic food list to focus (again, I'd let it pick for you), if you want supplement recommendations, how often you prefer to eat on an average day so it can figure portions that won't starve or over-stuff you or if you prefer it to pick for you. That type of thing.

CAUTION: some of the items have a time-lock on them. They are not things you'd likely mess up, but if you do, you'll have to call NAP to have them re-input the data for you.

The timer on the lock doesn't seem to start as soon as you start answering the input sheets, it appears to start as you enter each time-lock question. That way, if you get interrupted and are not finished it will only affect what you've done. The lock is there to enforce copywrite so that no one buys one copy and then SWAMI's their whole neighborhood. You can save your work and continue working on it later should you become interrupted while you're working on it.

It also has links to various helps for measuring, and a "help" function.
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JJR
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Can you come measure my upper and lower leg for me????????    

You know, I just thought of something, I was always measuring my right.  I wonder if I'd get a different answer on my left.  Does it say to do the right?  I'll have to check that out.  Only thing I'm not very symmetrical.  


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I see nothing on page 56-57 of the book indicating that it matters which leg you use.

On myself I did the left leg first and later did the right. There was a slight difference but it did not matter.

Thing the made the most difference for me was the definition of the bump on the outside of the leg below knee cap. But since Dr. Natalie Colicci explained this in an earlier thread, I will not repeat here.

I have a tendency to use left on client unless injury or something makes the right a better choice.

On SWAMI Xpress, you are asked to enter "What is your Upper to Lower Leg Ratio" the choices are "Upper Leg Longer", "Lower Leg Longer", and "Equal".  You do not have to enter the actual leg measurements.

If the measurements are so close that you cannot consistently get it to come out one way or the other, you may want to select "Equal".

It is a time locked field so you will want to get it right, if you can the first time.

You may want to try reading the explanations of leg measurements that people wrote in January/February 2008 when people were first working out the GenoType measurement techniques.


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  Sorry if that sat with your wrong.   SO YEAH, $69 dollars is a stretch right now and I'll figure out how to swing it now that I think it's necessary.  But there are a lot of other necessary things like my kids school, (we home school)......  


ABnoway, nothing "sat with me wrong" I'm just having a conversation, and I was just trying to help you..Sorry you took it the wrong way..    Try spending less on supplements and then maybe you could afford the $69 for a SWAMI.  
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JJR
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Well, I remeasured my legs on Friday and I'm still pretty darn sure I'm a Teacher.  But upper and lower are the same and tie goes to lower.  However, The EXACT spot where you measure above your knee for the upper is a little fuzzy.  It could make my upper 1/2" longer.  Seems like there is a little play in there that I'm not sure of.  Anyways, I felt better on the Teacher diet and I'm pretty sure that's what I am.

I did try an egg for breakfast this morning instead of some kind of dairy and I feel pretty darn good.  I did have it with some Pineapple.  I don't really like the combination though.  Maybe I'll eat veggies on the mornings I eat eggs?  What fruit goes good with eggs?  Fruit has always seemed to do well in the morning for me.  I can't do grains or anything too heavy in the morning.  My body rebels.  Well, it used to at least.  It's been a while since I tried.


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