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Gumby
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Just curious what percentage of everyone's 'epigenetci variation is encapsulated' in their genotype profile.  

Mine is 47% and interpreted as a 'strong association'.  

All this new stuff is fun!  

I've not run my swami as many times as I measured myself when the GT book first came out...but I've done it lots! *lol*  


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Mine was 49%.......
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42% hunter, 41% explorer


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42% hunter, 41% explorer


how did you find out the other part? Mine only lists 44% Hunter.  It says nothing about any other genotype.  


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42% hunter

I think it said 41% gatherer when I wasn't sure



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I know this isn't supposed to be a competition... but I can't help but think, "I win!" lol

"Your results: 55% of your epigenetic variation is encapsulated in the GT1 Hunter profile."


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Quoted from Tea Rose
42% hunter

I think it said 41% gatherer when I wasn't sure


I think it can only calculate one percentage..


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You'd think that a percentage of 50% or over would be a strong indicator of genotype.  

Mine leaves 56% unknown...  


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45% Teacher.  

It changed a bit after I re-calculated my finger lengths to the proper
mm....and added my ethnic background as Northern European.

Information about the unknown factor might be an interesting topic to learn about..


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You'd think that a percentage of 50% or over would be a strong indicator of genotype.  

Mine leaves 56% unknown...


It doesn't work that way

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1247915915/#num14


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I'm lost.  I already had SWAMI done back in October.  Is this something new for those who haven't had it done yet?


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Ribbit, the software gives a percentage when it calculates your GT.  I was just curious as to the range of percentages that people were getting.  


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Quoted from Eric
I know this isn't supposed to be a competition... but I can't help but think, "I win!" lol

"Your results: 55% of your epigenetic variation is encapsulated in the GT1 Hunter profile."


, Eric!

Wow, yours is the highest I have seen yet.  You can be the poster child for GT1!  


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Thanks Dr. D.. but I still dont' get it!  anybody want to help explain to a somewhat 'lame brain?!'



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So where do I go to find this?


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That percentage is part of the First Principal Component:

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Principal component analysis (PCA) involves a mathematical procedure that transforms a number of (possibly) correlated variables into a (smaller) number of uncorrelated variables called principal components. The first principal component accounts for as much of the variability in the data as possible, and each succeeding component accounts for as much of the remaining variability as possible.


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How's this...Is this how it works?


I've got 100 keys.  45% of them will open the door because all the little sprockets on the keys match all the little sprockets in the lock...

55% of them might have some sprocket components of the 45% of the keys that made a perfect fit, but 55% of the keys will not open the door because they're not the same perfect matches as the 45%.




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Quoted from Ribbit
I'm lost.  I already had SWAMI done back in October.  Is this something new for those who haven't had it done yet?


The percentage match gives you a glimpse into how the software works and is an interesting curiosity.

What is new and useful: Recipes based on diet recommendations (can create printable cookbook), meal planner, and shopping list.



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Quoted from Chloe
How's this...Is this how it works?


I've got 100 keys.  45% of them will open the door because all the little sprockets on the keys match all the little sprockets in the lock...

55% of them might have some sprocket components of the 45% of the keys that made a perfect fit, but 55% of the keys will not open the door because they're not the same perfect matches as the 45%.




I have no idea, but that's a sweet metaphor!


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41% Explorer here  

I love my new food list! So many favorites are back. I'm a happy camper.  



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Dr. D,

I think the word percent makes me think that there has to be 100% of something.  So that if I am 42% hunter, then what am I for the other 58% (which is a higher).  

When I first did SWAMI I thought 1 mm difference would be a tie, and ties go to the index finger, so I thought I was a Gatherer.   SWAMI gave me a number of 41% Gatherer, but it also told me that I am a Hunter not a Gatherer.  So I changed it to Hunter just as SWAMI computed.  

That is why I had 2 percents one as a Hunter and one as a Gatherer.

So that is why I assumed that I was 42% Hunter, 41%Gatherer and probably the rest Explorer.  

But I see that I was wrong after your explanation on First Principal Components.  Sorry, but the word percent through me off.  

Either way, I love being a Hunter and I love my new lists, I even have red wine as a neutral.

Rosemary



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how did you find out the other part? Mine only lists 44% Hunter.  It says nothing about any other genotype.  


When I marked that I had white lines, I was 42% Hunter.  When I went back and marked that I don't have white lines, my result was 41% Explorer.  So when my white lines go away, I might be an Explorer!  Or, maybe I'll morph into something else or become a 'super hunter'.  Who knows?



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The lower the first principal component, the more SWAMI is going to weave in BTD/secretor values over GenoType.


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When I marked that I had white lines, I was 42% Hunter.  When I went back and marked that I don't have white lines, my result was 41% Explorer.  So when my white lines go away, I might be an Explorer!  Or, maybe I'll morph into something else or become a 'super hunter'.  Who knows?



Well this sounds a little funny.  I mean if you are a particular genotype, why would  your genotype change just because your white lines went away?

I mean i actually have even index and ring on one hand and on the other the index is actually longer but I'm still a hunter.  

I would hate to think I change genotypes because things change.. is that how this all works...??? that feels weird to me.


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Well this sounds a little funny.  I mean if you are a particular genotype, why would  your genotype change just because your white lines went away?

I mean i actually have even index and ring on one hand and on the other the index is actually longer but I'm still a hunter.  

I would hate to think I change genotypes because things change.. is that how this all works...??? that feels weird to me.


Correct me if I'm wrong...but I'm seeing it differently..and think that it's not that your genotype ever changes from one type to another, nor could you actually
morph into something other than what you really are...  It's just that seeing
white lines when you're too close to call a type might simply imply that you're a calling yourself a genotype that is not your real one...When you clear up the white lines (your gut), you find out your true genotype which you couldn't determine with certainty before.

Does this make any sense?  Your real type was always there..You just couldn't
properly determine it until your white lines were gone.



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I would hate to think I change genotypes because things change.. is that how this all works...??? that feels weird to me.


At the risk of being redundant, remember that with the software flexibility, you are much less wed to the strictures of the one in six GenoTypes that are in the book. As you body changes, the focus of the therapeutics may change as well (especially if there are only slight distinctions between one GenoType and another).

Thus if you are a GT1 because of white lines and they recede and you do indeed type out later on as an Explorer, the focus of your therapeutic efforts will shift from gut rehabilitation to liver and immune detoxification.

Since that type of slight difference will prompt SWAMI to hybridize GTD and BTD values, you will really be generating a type O/ secretor/ non-secretor with either gut rehab overtones (Hunter) or detox overtones (Explorer).

Change is what the entire diet is about, let's not be scared by it.


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Excellent Dr. D.  That puts my mind at ease and makes total sense. Thank you.  As you know, our minds can go off on tangents with the sort of 'unknown's.'


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Yes, Dr. D, thanks...... that is "the" explanation I finally understand!  


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Well just for fun.. I went in and changed mine to no white lines.  

Still a Hunter.

It seems I'm stuck knawing meat off bones and (in this generation), metaphorically heading off into the wild lands with my bow and arrow hunting forever!  AND.. I love it!!!


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The lower the first principal component, the more SWAMI is going to weave in BTD/secretor values over GenoType.


Ah, that is very interesting and makes perfect sense. (It's also great to see some of my old A favourites back! )


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41% Explorer here  

I love my new food list! So many favorites are back. I'm a happy camper.  


I just added my head measurments and that bumped me up to 42% Explorer.

We went out and bought a new printer last night so I could print it all out.




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Thus if you are a GT1 because of white lines and they recede and you do indeed type out later on as an Explorer, the focus of your therapeutic efforts will shift from gut rehabilitation to liver and immune detoxification.

Since that type of slight difference will prompt SWAMI to hybridize GTD and BTD values, you will really be generating a type O/ secretor/ non-secretor with either gut rehab overtones (Hunter) or detox overtones (Explorer).



That's my sense of it... I think  I'm an Explorer with celiac/crohn's, so my inflammation is more crucial to treat than toxicity, even though I have both.  But, it might be a while until my lines clear up... I have about 25 of them... so, I'll settle into Hunter (or follow LR4YT) and be happy that I can eat peaches!



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I know this isn't supposed to be a competition... but I can't help but think, "I win!" lol

"Your results: 55% of your epigenetic variation is encapsulated in the GT1 Hunter profile."

So, does that mean I take the booby-prize? Mine's a whopping whole 34% Nomad/GT6 once I finally got all the data entered.

But, even with that measly 34%, I am already noticing changes for the better. Especially since adding the extra red meats instead of just maxing out the poultry and fish and occasionally using lamb as a treat.
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I just finished my Swami and came out 43% Explorer....I was completely sure from the reading and measuring before that I was a Gatherer.  Time to try something new!  Hello to my new Explorer family  
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are you an RH negative?


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So, does that mean I take the booby-prize? Mine's a whopping whole 34% Nomad/GT6 once I finally got all the data entered.

But, even with that measly 34%, I am already noticing changes for the better. Especially since adding the extra red meats instead of just maxing out the poultry and fish and occasionally using lamb as a treat
.


Type AB's First PC is considered strong at 35%. Remember, they are the only blood group with four GT options.


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sorry here I don't understand...only 41% explorer value... but the rest of 59% is more than the measured of what and whom .....



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I think the rest is spreaded in the other possible GTs of your data, so it can be less relevant for you, may be I got it !
Have a nice afternoon Isa !


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I think the rest is spread  in the other possible GTs of your data, so it can be less relevant for you, may be I got it !


Very close MG. The rest is spread over the:

1. The other GenoTypes
2. Things that don't apply (in this combination) to any GenoType


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Isa the percentage is not how much 'you' are 'it'.

The percentage is a measure of how much 'it' is 'you.'


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At the risk of being redundant, remember that with the software flexibility, you are much less wed to the strictures of the one in six GenoTypes that are in the book. As you body changes, the focus of the therapeutics may change as well (especially if there are only slight distinctions between one GenoType and another).

Thus if you are a GT1 because of white lines and they recede and you do indeed type out later on as an Explorer, the focus of your therapeutic efforts will shift from gut rehabilitation to liver and immune detoxification.

Since that type of slight difference will prompt SWAMI to hybridize GTD and BTD values, you will really be generating a type O/ secretor/ non-secretor with either gut rehab overtones (Hunter) or detox overtones (Explorer).

Change is what the entire diet is about, let's not be scared by it.

Viva la complexity!
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Isa the percentage is not how much 'you' are 'it'.

The percentage is a measure of how much 'it' is 'you.'

Color me fascinated by this entire thread.  And intrigued.  Once I get up on the net at home, I'll have to get SWAMI, although the G2 diet is working fabulously for me.  Still, once one is bitten by an interest in, and passion for, the BTD/GTD theories, one's curiousity and interest in ever-refining one's diet towards the ideal personalized fuel for one's unique-as-a-snowflake self can never be fully sated.

So, I'll have to at least find out what SWAMI has to tell me.  But I might just stick to the G2 plan anyway.  If it ain't broke, don't fix it!  Then again, maybe SWAMI will tell me something interesting regarding sunflower seeds or some other food that I know has been wrongly maligned for me as an individual.  I'm fascinated and tantalized to learn what SWAMI will deem fab and not-so-fab for me.

Meanwhile, I'm livin' la vida G2 and lovin' it.



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Type AB's First PC is considered strong at 35%. Remember, they are the only blood group with four GT options.

Wow! Then I'm a whole lot more Nomad than I realized! Thank you for the answer! And for SWAMI. This way of eating just keeps getting better and better!  
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glad you joined as well!

are you an RH negative?


Hi Lola, yes I am RH negative, and a lefty too.  I guess I should have said that the Explorer type is 43% me instead of the other way around  
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So, I'll have to at least find out what SWAMI has to tell me.  But I might just stick to the G2 plan anyway.  If it ain't broke, don't fix it!  Then again, maybe SWAMI will tell me something interesting regarding sunflower seeds or some other food that I know has been wrongly maligned for me as an individual.


PT, I was doing really well on the Hunter diet, but I did the SWAMI out of curiosity.  Not only did it confirm my Hunter status, but it tweaked the diet giving me lots more options, and even confirmed that things I somehow knew were OK or even good for me actually were, like carrots.  All I really lost was kelp and believe me I can live without that  
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I am 44% gatherer....
P. T. it's pretty fun! You do get some differences.. I got some different cheeses...parmesan, pecorino and romano!!!!!!!! How cool is that?
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that's it..what I was asking looong before ...we are a mix.. as it is written on my shield ..A2B nonnie!!!....haaa....

even better described on the enneagram bla's ....transcribed into the nomenclature of genomic issues ...

http://www.thedarwincode.com  ....??) but here we need more  epigen-
etic  wisdom... and here I can't help you out...sorry... ,,,,


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that's it..what I was asking looong before ...we are a mix.. as it is written on my shield ..A2B nonnie!!!....haaa....

even better described on the enneagram bla's ....transcribed into the nomenclature of genomic issues ...

http://www.thedarwincode.com  ....??) but here we need more  epigen-
etic  wisdom... and here I can't help you out...sorry... ,,,,


http://www.thedarwincode.com

This seems to work better without the ....

Debra

P.S.  Actually, it shows a few things on the site.   Not sure which one you are referring to Isa.  


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http://www.thedarwincode.com

...

P.S.  Actually, it shows a few things on the site.   Not sure which one you are referring to Isa.


I presume this is the site Isa actually wanted: http://www.darwincode.com/


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I presume this is the site Isa actually wanted: http://www.darwincode.com/


Seems like most of it is quite lame; not much works.


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Seems like most of it is quite lame; not much works.


I may not have gotten the correct site, but the http://www.thedarwincode.com/ site is a parked site so it could not have been correct.

Isa will have to clarify what she meant. This site more directly deals with enneagrams and genomic issues mentioned in Isa's post: http://www.soulscode.com/  but I still am not confident that it is the correct URL.


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Dr D means most of these genetic testing sites are pretty lame and not worth the trouble.......


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Peter, sorry for my non-understandings... but this "it"...is this meant nearly to the freudian conclusions....

As my old advaita teacher once told me, it can't stand by itself, so it must be added a sort of verb....ok here you add to be.... so I was indirectly onto the right track when years ago I tried to point out
that the mind work with the genes as it works with our envirenements...
nada ms was and is my question here .
Comparaisons to the MB-testresults.....you made allusions to intp/j's
as being the warriors if I've understood that well.....meant here also
are the explanations of the enneagram which leads us to no 5....here your descriptions are congruent to all others yep... sorry, sorry but I always have the need to understand the situation and propositions...it all happens in my intellectual capacities....
I apologize when havin been so compulsive...


http://www.brucelipton.com

similar to the talkins of Don Miguel Ruiz    


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Plucky, you can just run another report with those changes and see...and then put them back the way you want them.  It is interesting to see what changes happen.


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SWAMI percentages:




Could you make that something I can eat, please?  

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Dr. D.. what does it mean?  

sorry.. i'm the dense old guy here!  


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Dr. D.. what does it mean?  

sorry.. i'm the dense old guy here!  


Absolutely nothing.

It is a 'pie chart' made out of a pie..


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Lloyd, show me your food list and I'll concoct a pie that you can eat and enjoy!  Alchemy of food is possible!  
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translation: 'swami s a piece of pie!!!' ( )
or
'it s a cake!!!!'('fat Greek wedding' phrase)


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Well I thought it had to do with the percentage thing... like you are this much already and soon you will be the whole pie if you follow the diet.  


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I just finished my Swami and came out 43% Explorer....I was completely sure from the reading and measuring before that I was a Gatherer.  Time to try something new!  Hello to my new Explorer family  

Glad to see someone else transfigured into an Explorer!
Quoted Text
Your results: 38 % of your epigenetic variation is encapsulated in the GT4 Explorer profile.
Interpretation: Adequate/ Moderate Association with GT4 Explorer

As Dr Dr explained, I expect I may morph into another type once some of my checkboxes in the analysis data get cleared.    The Explorer plan also seems to be weighted towards clearing the CANCER genes and not the ARTHRITIS genes that I was working towards:
GenoHarmonic Relationships
SWAMI Xpress has calculated that the best GenoHarmonic Relationship for you emphasizes food relationships capable of Enhancing Histone Acetylation Effects : alison, these Geno-Harmonic food relationships emphasize superbeneficial foods for your blood type and GenoType which contain nutrients that enhance the function of histones, proteins which allow DNA to coil and condense itself. Proper histone function increases the ability of your genes to react promptly and efficiently to environmental stimmuli; for example, allowing for the rapid removal of toxins. Because the loss of histone function is a major precondition for a cell's ability to turn cancerous, Geno-Harmonic food cambinations will have maximium personalized anti-cancer effects in your body. You can learn more about these epigenetic functions by reading Chapter III GenoType Whys and Wherefores, pages 28-52 in The GenoType Diet.


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it seems to be a spelt pie .....%centagewise I don't know how to count the eggs and what is all in.... quark-or creamcheese....instead of fat greek pie...could also be a teutonic Ksekuchen &raisins in....sluuurp....or a
swiss *chschueche* but this is merely salty ....


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Lloyd, show me your food list and I'll concoct a pie that you can eat and enjoy!  Alchemy of food is possible!  


Goodness, if you were to make the pie that would make it impossible to resist!  
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PT, I was doing really well on the Hunter diet, but I did the SWAMI out of curiosity.  Not only did it confirm my Hunter status, but it tweaked the diet giving me lots more options, and even confirmed that things I somehow knew were OK or even good for me actually were...

Coolio!  Color my curiousity piqued!



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Isa the percentage is not how much 'you' are 'it'.

The percentage is a measure of how much 'it' is 'you.'
This is beyond me.

In my understanding, with percentages either You are represented in the graph as the whole cake, cut into G, Ex, No, N/A etc by percentages - as I understand is the case here.

Or You are not represented in the graph at all, only the 6 types + N/A, each with its relative strength in You, in percents.



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Pardon me, a whole pie.

What do I expect from SWAMI:
To give me back w/o a black dot
carrots (to heal the soft tissues)
cucumbers (for chelation)
broccoli (dislike it, yet anticancer)
bananas!
cherries (at least the sweet pink ones)
grapes
red wine
pecorino cheese



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SWAMI percentages:

Have you already finished it?  



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Where does the SWAMI Xpress tell me my percentage? I can't find it.

I'll be grateful for your help.


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The percentage figure is in the diet report.

It does not occur if you choose your GenoType instead of allowing SWAMI to calculate it.

It also does not occur if you choose yes for "Print Abbreviated Diet Report"


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Thank you very much!  

I'll try to modify my input, hope to get my percentage.


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Yes, it has worked!  

Gatherer 44%   (the joy is due to the pecorino diamond, a great gift from SWAMI)

Thanks again!


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This is my wish list of July 29, 2009:
Quoted from yaeli

What do I expect from SWAMI:
To give me back w/o a black dot
carrots (to heal the soft tissues)
cucumbers (for chelation)
broccoli (dislike it, yet anticancer)
bananas!
cherries (at least the sweet pink ones)
grapes
red wine
pecorino cheese

And look what I got back: the  carrots, the broccoli, the bananas, the cherries, and the PECORINO cheese!!! Yeah!!!...  all five right for my type! superb or diamonds!   

With the grapes it's not bad at all: neutral. And the red wine:   I knew it, I knew it, I knew it! Used to be a total avoid, now a black dot!

So it's just the cucumbers... thrown away together with the tomatos to the far right among the avoids... the basic Israeli salad...      but there are still the tomatillos

All in all, it's amazing!



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I just entered my info in Swami today.  Explorer 38%
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I know this isn't supposed to be a competition... but I can't help but think, "I win!" lol

"Your results: 55% of your epigenetic variation is encapsulated in the GT1 Hunter profile."


Ahhhh the joys of being a competitive O...  
Sorry, Eric but my 58% Hunter trumps your 55%  

Cheers,
Chelsie  

ETA: The 1st time I genotyped myself I came out as a Hunter, but then at the conference learned we weren't doing all the measurements exactly right and I ended up a Gatherer, and now I'm back to Hunter. Ha! I knew it all along!


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Is there some way to get that percentage figure on the SWAMI report, even tho I already have a GT(by the measurements)?

Does the percentage mean something like this? --  The GT has 1,000 components(an arbitrary #) & you have 400 of them, therefore you are 40%.
That may sound low, but maybe we are so complex that it is actually high!
Maybe another GT has some of these components, so you can't accurately get a percentage for the next one!  Am I anywhere close or way off??


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To get a percentage using SWAMI you should
choose for GenoType:      "Determine GenoType for me"
rather than telling it the one you calculated.

If you rerun the diet report using this setting, you should see
a percentage.

Incidentally, I would recommend that you use the GenoType calculated by SWAMI rather than the one from the book, because uses a more sophisticated method to calculate GenoType than any of the three methods presented in the book.


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Mine is 41%. The tweaks certainly have made a difference in how I feel.

I miss grapes like yaeli. They were like nirvana to me. Grape juice is neutral and red wine is a superfood!
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Hey Everyone,

I am sure that this is written in the thread somewhere, but where do you find out what % you are? I have SWAMI but never seen that? .

Much thanks.
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Hey Everyone,

I am sure that this is written in the thread somewhere, but where do you find out what % you are? I have SWAMI but never seen that? .

Much thanks.


Someone mentioned that the percentage is found in a printout:

Quoted Text
To get a percentage using SWAMI you should choose for GenoType: "Determine GenoType for me" rather than telling it the one you calculated.

If you rerun the diet report using this setting, you should see
a percentage.






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Someone mentioned that the percentage is found in a printout:



I tried doing that. I put "determine genotype for me" in Column 2 but the next page only stated "Explorer," not the %.
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scroll to where it says report, it s there.


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Tea Rose
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Shelly,

Your percentage should be on page 4 of the long form of the SWAMI printout.  It is the document with about 50 pages.  Have you possibly chosen to get the short form?  

It should say your percentage and then a bar graph.

Tea Rose



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The perecent does not appear if you choose yes for "Print Abbreviated Diet Report"


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I noticed that is also does not show a % if you choose to over-ride the Genotype SWAMI would have picked. I tried that today just to see what kind of %age I would get as a Warrior and Teacher but it didn't say. It did make it pretty clear that I was opting to over-ride my true genotype though.  



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Ha!  Got it.  It says 38% Explorer with a bar graph.  But it doesn't say where the rest of the percentage lies- is it supposed to break the % down more?
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I think it can only calculate one percentage..




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See this thread for an explaination of what the percentage given in your SWAMI report means:

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1249043756/


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Quoted Text
It says 38% Explorer with a bar graph.


here s what it means
Quoted Text
DR D
The percentage is not how much 'you' are 'it'.

The percentage is a measure of how much 'it' is 'you.'


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So, in the right words, 38% of me is Explorer.  It seems a rather small percentage.

Is there any way to tell how much of me is of another genotype?  Some days I really do think I am a Warrior and that the SWAMI foods are incompatible for me.
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Shelly,

I think (if I understand correctly  ) because Explorers can be from all 4 blood types the percentages are lower than say a Hunter's percentage, because only Type O can be that genotype.

Tea Rose



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Quoted from Shelly
So, in the right words, 38% of me is Explorer. ...
Is there any way to tell how much of me is of another genotype?  


See Lola comments and others in the thread. The percentages given do not really work that way.



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To answer an earlier post: Certain info is already locked in, so I can't change it, but nobody answered if my idea of percentage is right. I think it is, as it is supposed to be what percentage of the GT I am, not the GT in me. There probably is some overlap, so Dr. D didn't want to confuse us further. Maybe the SWAMI program is not able to calulate everything.  It's almost a miracle that it can do what it does!
Thanx again, Dr. D!!

[PS. It said I was reactive. Since 2 of the 3 O GTs are reactive, I could be mostly a gatherer & could still be reactive. I see reactive as well as gatherer traits in myself.   "We are fearfully & wonderfully made!"]
That's enough for today!


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Quoted from Shelly
So, in the right words, 38% of me is Explorer.  It seems a rather small percentage.


You will not see figures in the 90s. Numbers in the thirties are common (for all GenoTypes not just Explorer).

The numbers reflect a percentage match at a particular stage in the process.  SWAMI makes multiple passes and will adjust the diet to meet the part of your genetic profile that is not an exact fit with your GenoType.

I have never seen 100% and do not expect to. But I suppose if one received a 100% match one could just eat the Explorer diet in the book and not need SWAMI.



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Quoted from C_Sharp
The numbers reflect a percentage match at a particular stage in the process.


Will the percentage change as one progresses along in eating according to SWAMI?




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To answer an earlier post: Certain info is already locked in, so I can't change it, but nobody answered if my idea of percentage is right.

[PS. It said I was reactive. Since 2 of the 3 O GTs are reactive,


If some locked data is incorrect you can contact NAP to reset a locked field for you.

If you do not have wrong input data, I would assume the percentage given is correct.

The percentage is mostly an intellectual curiosity. We cannot change it anyway.  SWAMI works regardless of the percentage given.  

In SWAMI people can be "reactive" and belong to a GenoType that is not "reactive" in the book.


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Quoted from Gale D.


Will the percentage change as one progresses along in eating according to SWAMI?


As the input data changes the percentage given will change. It could increase or decrease.


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My understanding is that this is why the Swami diet works so well.  
If we were anywhere near 90 or 100% of a genotype than we would not be the individuals that we are.  We would be one of 6 cookie cutter types.  That's why Swami combines blood type & genotype to match what parts of you are more of the genotype you are & what parts of you need more of the blood type diet.
Does that sound right to you?
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Quoted from Roxanne
My understanding is that this is why the Swami diet works so well.  
If we were anywhere near 90 or 100% of a genotype than we would not be the individuals that we are.  We would be one of 6 cookie cutter types.  That's why Swami combines blood type & genotype to match what parts of you are more of the genotype you are & what parts of you need more of the blood type diet.
Does that sound right to you?


Sounds right.  I really wish there was a way to find out the other compositions, but I see that like many other things in life Swami doesn't work like 1+1=2
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I thought I would play in my input. Since I am an O, the only genotypes I could be are Hunter, Explorer or Gatherer.

I have very faint prints, so Dr. D. said I am a hunter.

When I fill out the questionnaire and leave out the lines on fingerprints, I come out as an Explorer at 36%

When I input lines on fingerprints, I come out as a Hunter 36%.

When I override and enter Gatherer, I come out with the exact same foods as on my Hunter diet.  The Explorer diet has some more grains which I tend to avoid.

When I review the part where swami shows how it calculated (measurements, history etc), similar amount of matches on Explorer and Hunter on measurements and history, but the fingerprint lines obviously tip toward Hunter.  Gatherer, only 1 measurement and ENTJ come up as Gatherer tendencies.

So, like Dr. D. has said, my diet is a unique Jean diet.  

I am a Reactive with a combo Blood Type/Genotype diet and as far as I can see, more O sec type foods.

My husband is a 53% warrior but his world view is Receptor (lots of cancer in his family, esp siblings)  His inventory list of Warrior is much longer than any of mine (so he matches more of the Warrior characteristics) but his diet is very Warrior.

I think the percentages represent more of a continuum rather than a true percentage.  Although I always test for an ENTJ, I am not as strong an E as my uber Extroverted husband.  He thinks I am rather quiet, whereas most of the world sees me as Extroverted. Overall, however, I am extroverted.  



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I'm confused. Are we all supposed to be told a percentage? If so, where do I find it? My SWAMI just states that I'm a GT1 Hunter. (Blood Group O Rh Negative Secretor)  
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You will not see a percentage if you do either of these things:

Select an abbreviated diet report.

You override the calculated GenoType.

If you have not done either of these you should find the percentage in the: "What Makes You a GT1 Hunter" section of your diet report. A few pages in, but before the diet listings.


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Thank you, C_sharp! I just went back to look & for some reason I had checked the abbreviated diet report. I changed it & found my percentage & a whole lot more to read about. I'm 50% Hunter with a receptive world view, which surprised me. I would have thought I'd have a reactive world view since I feel I'm a combo of Hunter & Explorer. I need to do some more reading to try to figure out why.
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Quoted from Chanur

So, does that mean I take the booby-prize? Mine's a whopping whole 34% Nomad/GT6 once I finally got all the data entered.

But, even with that measly 34%, I am already noticing changes for the better. Especially since adding the extra red meats instead of just maxing out the poultry and fish and occasionally using lamb as a treat.


You and I are cut from the same cloth.  I hope I feel the changes for the better.  I realized mine is more like my BTD than anything. So I paid 70 bucks for it to tell me to go back to BTD.  Hehehehehhehehe.  We'll see how it goes!


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"Finally brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things." - Phillipians 4:8
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ABNW: I'm sure that SWAMI will show differences, however small, that will make a big difference in how you feel & heal! Maybe the omission & addition of 1 or 2 foods will make a great difference.
GT2 had oatmeal as a SF, but after eating it again after so many years, it bothered me. Then SWAMI has it as an avoid!
I don't know if it was fingerprints(lines), nationality, or something else that did that! WOW!  So I'm glad I spent the 70 bucks!
I think you will be, too!
(Off topic - was that a tornado watch last night in our area? WuHuuu!)


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33% Nomad, calories calories!!!!!!
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Really?  I slept really good last night and didn't hear about it.  It sure was windy this morning though, so it wouldn't be hard to beleive.

Yeah, my lists are different than a teacher and different than a Nomad, and more like an AB.  But it isn't just an AB diet.  There are a few differences which might make a big difference.  I don't know.  But I like the looks of it.  Personally, I always thought the Nomad diet was really good.  I mean, you should see my lists of Veggies and Fruits.  There isn't much I CAN'T have.  I really like the looks of the diet, I just hope my body likes the application!!!!!  I think it will though.


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sounds exciting!


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Quoted from Lola
sounds exciting!


Yeah, white knuckles all the way!  


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I can't believe the differnce SWAMI has made.  No more itching!  I had no idea I had a problem with nuts, they were SWAMI'd out of my diet.  My inflammation is just about nonexistent.  My CRP went from 1.3 to .2.  I couldn't be happier and I feel wonderful.
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I know this isn't supposed to be a competition... but I can't help but think, "I win!" lol

"Your results: 55% of your epigenetic variation is encapsulated in the GT1 Hunter profile."


Sorry Eric, I can't help being competitive, its my nature.....72% Warrior  




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Olygirl,
great testimonial!


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Good %%% Jenny, it certainly tops the mark here!! So far!

I was waiting to get my final results to post but it is taking foreveeeeeer!!  Yes, I am still waiting for Path Lab to get their act together, but that is another thread.

So far, without the Lewis tests, MN and all the other secretory bood types thingis as well as the blood subtypes I have two percentages:

44% for non-secretor and 41% for secretor (GT3 Teacher).  




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Good %%% Jenny, it certainly tops the mark here!! So far!


I was waiting to get my final results to post but it is taking foreveeeeeer!!  Yes, I am still waiting for Path Lab to get their act together, but that is another thread.

So far, without the Lewis tests, MN and all the other secretory bood types thingis as well as the blood subtypes I have two percentages:

44% for non-secretor and 41% for secretor (GT3 Teacher).  


Don't worry, I know it does not mean the same as passing an exam, it's just fun to talk about it. I can only guess that being so high in one Genotype makes me more like the
the generalized model than someone who has a report of mixed types. But it was still more than worthwhile to get the work done, as it has given me a hybridized BTD/GTD due to medical problems, and I now have Pecorino and Parmesan cheese, first time for 8 years.  Woo hoo!!!  




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Yes, they are on my list too, but I have not been able to get Pecorino at my Woolies shop yet. Yummy Havarty was on my Teacher list, but Swami made it a black dot   Also gained Roquefort and Feta.  Have not had Feta for ages. I bought some today.  




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Yes, they are on my list too, but I have not been able to get Pecorino at my Woolies shop yet. Yummy Havarty was on my Teacher list, but Swami made it a black dot   Also gained Roquefort and Feta.  Have not had Feta for ages. I bought some today.  

I found pecorino in my health food store fridge; I'll be going back there.




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62% HUNTER.  

I can't believe the differnce SWAMI has made.  No more itching!  I had no idea I had a problem with nuts, they were SWAMI'd out of my diet.  My inflammation is just about nonexistent.  My CRP went from 1.3 to .2.  I couldn't be happier and I feel wonderful.
Thanks Dr. D!

Sorry to but in...I haven't had swami done... but glad you mentioned this!! Its very interesting to hear...I can just tolerate macadamias but that is the only nuts I can eat & then I think they still cause a bit of a problem...
I didn't have any at all last week as I had run out & couldn't get into town...& now that I think about it I think I was doing better Might go off them again & see if things improve
Re Pathlab... &  your comment Christina: "I was waiting to get my final results to post but it is taking foreveeeeeer!!  Yes, I am still waiting for Path Lab to get their act together" ...
My "test"  got "lost" on its way to Pathlab... Well somewhere between Aus Post & PL...

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Oh Possum!!  Sorry to hear it is not just me then!! First they game me the wrong test, then they tell me they do not do blood typing, then I get the new saliva test kit, the form is also for bood typing, phoned them and yes, they do it, but wait till you get the other test tube for the blood so you send everything together!!  So the saga continues, I am still waiting...  I am in Aussie but the turn around between them and us is at least 3 days if not more!!
Do not get me going!! ,,,  It is OK though ... I'll get it sorted out soon enough.  In the meantime Swami is looking over me!
I want to believe we are just the unlucky exceptions, they must be doing thousands of tests, they cannot all be this complicated ...

It is amazing to see all those percentages in this thread.  We are all unique individuals.  Makes sense!!




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Hope it gets sorted soon... The worst thing with my situation is that PathLab are blaming Aus Post & who knows what Aus Post are saying.. they haven't yet responded to my email In the meantime my husband got back from a week London & is upset (understandedly) that his credit card details are on a form "lost" somewhere in Aus!!!!!! Eek!!!!
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I searched GTD book, google, main site and forums for possible terms for the answer, but couldn't find it.

Are these correct statements?

Type O can only be Hunter/Gatherer/Explorer

Type A can only be Teacher/Warrior/Explorer

Type B and AB can only be Gatherer/Explorer/Nomad





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I was playing around with my swami and found the following:

I am a Hunter if I say I have lines on fingertips and I am a taster or super taster. 38%

I am an Explorer if I don't have lines on fingertips and I am a taster or super taster. 38%

I am a Gatherer if I have lines on fingertips and I am a nontaster!!! 38%

Wow, very small changes in my swami give me all 3 of the 0 possible genotypes.  Interesting to note, the foods don't change all that much from diet to diet for me...my diet stays as a nonnie O diet throughout.
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Type AB can be a warrior, teacher, nomad, explorer.

See pages 290-297 for possible GenoTypes or pages 91-94.


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Type AB can also be a warrior, teacher, nomad, explorer.



I didn't think about looking at the charts, thanks!

So how about this:

Type O can only be Hunter/Gatherer/Explorer

Type A can only be Teacher/Warrior/Explorer

Type B can only be Gatherer/Explorer/Nomad

Type AB can be Gatherer/Teacher/Explorer/Warrior/Nomad






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I am unaware of any ABs that are Gatherers.


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Right. The tables don't show that.

So, is this correct?

Type O can only be Hunter/Gatherer/Explorer

Type A can only be Teacher/Explorer/Warrior

Type B can only be Gatherer/Explorer/Nomad

Type AB can be Teacher/Explorer/Warrior/Nomad




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Or like this BT/GT polar graph with a Nonnie center and radial BT sectors:

Hunter       Gatherer
          \    /           \
            O                B
              \            /    \
               Explorer       Nomad
              /             \    /
            A                AB
              \             /
                 Teacher
                 /Warrior

Except that Teacher is closer to A and Warrior to AB
From the desk of a strong (42%) Explorer who was awake in his Stats class and still remembers some things about PCA.


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Great graph Paul.  Never realised that Warrior is closer to AB.

Have you all seen the graph on this page?  Takes a while to get your head around it, and to imagine it in 3d.  Shame it couldn't by anaglphyic 3d cos we've got the glasses here.  

http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/blood-groups/?blog=24&paged=5


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That tops the cake Lola, the Dadamotron workings would be a graph in a half too!  But top secret.  


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Great read and excellent chart.

What does it mean that Warrior is so far out there by itself and Explorer is so close to the middle?  (I'm Warrior, my DH is Explorer, so particularly interesting to us)





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it is more 3 dimensional......actually the points aren t as far out as they seem in the picture......
imagine the explorer point sticking out toward you, when looking at the graph


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Quoted from Symbi
Great graph Paul.  Never realised that Warrior is closer to AB.

Have you all seen the graph on this page?  Takes a while to get your head around it, and to imagine it in 3d.  Shame it couldn't by anaglphyic 3d cos we've got the glasses here.  

http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/blood-groups/?blog=24&paged=5

Thank you, Ghee Whiz.  Yes, reviewed that graph again and again.  Is the Z axis a measure of acetylation?  If the Explorer is close to the orign, but distant in the third dimension, is everthingelse on the XY plane? What are the first two principle components made up of?  I have done a much shallower analysis from the Advanced Calculator categories and come up a whole mess that cannot be neatly summarized.  Unless you can think in seven dimensions, that is.  

There is just enough information to tease you!


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Now this is weird!  I just went back to check my SWAMI & the only change I made was to have SWAMI calculate my GT. It said Explorer(before I put gatherer & it said I put gatherer, but that it calculated me as explorer - OK so far).
But then it said 46% EXplorer which is on the high side!
Then some of the foods listed were different. The changes really didn't affect what I would eat or have been eating, but there were quite a few changes like 6 TBS of oil instead of 3, more meats as SFs, 3 fruits instead of 2, 6 veggies instead of 5, 6 eggs instead of 8, etc.  Now if all the data input was the same, why the changes?
Like I said, it won't change much what I will eat( I already don't eat enough eggs & eat more oil, for example).
Wassup with all this??


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33% Nomad, calories calories!!!!!!
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Did you hit something on accident.


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Where did you find your %? I looked all through my info and didn't see a precent anywhere?


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Where did you find your %? I looked all through my info and didn't see a precent anywhere?


You will not see a percentage if you do either of these things:

Select an abbreviated diet report.

You override the calculated GenoType.

If you have not done either of these you should find the percentage in the: "What Makes You a GT5 Warrior" section of your diet report. A few pages in, but before the diet listings.


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My diet report just has food listings - I didn't get anything about why I am a warrior. Where do I get that? I didn't get that with the first teacher I printed out either. I thought I was teacher based on the book, but when I let swami decide - it said I was a warrior. Am I missing out on something?????


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Be sure that both of these fields are set as follows:

GenoType:

Print Abbreviated Diet Report:


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Quoted from Mrs T O+
Now this is weird!  I just went back to check my SWAMI & the only change I made was to have SWAMI calculate my GT. It said Explorer(before I put gatherer & it said I put gatherer, but that it calculated me as explorer - OK so far).
But then it said 46% EXplorer which is on the high side!
Then some of the foods listed were different. The changes really didn't affect what I would eat or have been eating, but there were quite a few changes like 6 TBS of oil instead of 3, more meats as SFs, 3 fruits instead of 2, 6 veggies instead of 5, 6 eggs instead of 8, etc.  Now if all the data input was the same, why the changes?
Like I said, it won't change much what I will eat( I already don't eat enough eggs & eat more oil, for example).
Wassup with all this??


MRS T  only made 1 change and I went from gatherer
( I was already a bit surprised about that since I started as Nomad) to explorer.

My food changes a bit but NOT much in many ways
my swami explorer list is much more a B diet than a explorer.

I think I am just like JeanB a very  close Genotype.
I am just 37 % explorer and only small stuff change my GT.


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Thank you! I am printing out the info now. I am 44%


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62% HUNTER. I can't believe the differnce SWAMI has made.  No more itching!  I had no idea I had a problem with nuts, they were SWAMI'd out of my diet.  My inflammation is just about nonexistent.  My CRP went from 1.3 to .2.  I couldn't be happier and I feel wonderful.Thanks Dr. D!
Just wanted to say I am so glad you posted this comment here!!!! I stopped the macadamia nuts for a few days & then tested them by reintroducing just them, and they are pretty obviously the cause of my inflammation!! Who would've thought!!!??? Now I'm thinking I wanna get swami done

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Hi Possum,  Great idea to get SWAMI done, me too in the future.  
Are you going to brave pathlabs again to get your secretor test done first before SWAMI?  Fingers crossed for you.

C_Sharp - that's clever   how you put the drop down boxes in your post  

Paul, Dgale and everyone scratching their heads at the graph at http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/blood-groups/?blog=24&paged=5  I'm   too.  Dr D doesn't make clear what the two Facts are it's all about genes so it's probably way above most people's heads including mine   Good idea Paul could be acetylation since that's not on the graph.

Imagining it in 3d with the lines sticking out (though you don't know whether the Triangle Genotypes are 3d or flat?  Explorer being close to the middle shows that all blood types and all types can be Explorers, I guess.  I'm surprised they're not higher up closer to the RH- and super taster at the top.

I find it interesting that Warrior is closer to AB and teacher very close to A (most As are teachers I read on here).  Maybe there's too many factors on there pulling in different directions though?!

Why is Non-secretor in red?

Also note Nomad follows on from B and is close to many factors.  


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Ta GW Yeah I sent it off last Thursday Didn't seem to be any other option Thanks for the fingers crossed!!
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That secretor test is SO worth getting done, hope it doesn't take too long to find out!

Also, I'm 36% moderate Explorer. Swami decided I was an Explorer and gave me a hybrid diet that makes me happier than either straight-BTD O Nonnie or Gatherer. So far, so good. Not 100% compliant yet, but happier so far.


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39% Adequate/Moderate Gatherer, hybrid values. Got to finish the last of the BTD food in the cupboards/freezer, but then I'll be starting in earnest. Very happy to have rice and tomatoes on my super list.


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Thanks OSuzanna One week down & counting... Will get in touch tomorrow re this...Hopefully not too long now!! Glad you & Squirrel are happy with your results...
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