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In the back of the SWAMI Xpress is a listing of Geno Harmonic foods.  A description of them is given there and people are referred to pages 24-26 of the GenoType Diet book.

I am not sure how best to use them. So I was hoping that a little discussion here would help me understand them and find out how others incorporated them into their diet.

I understand that Geno Harmonic food combining was discussed at the conference but I did not attend.

They seem to change substantially in response to changes in input parameters to SWAMI.





After further testing I noted the pages that a user is referred to change based on what you select for "Geno Harmonic Food Clusters" option (or what the computer selects, if you took the default choice of "compute best").


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Geno Harmonic Foods are unique combinations of certain foods which SWAMI Xpress has determined will yield the maximum epigenetic enhancement. The epigenic value of the food is indicated by its star value, from exceptional (5 stars) to very good (three stars). Simply reference a food you will be using at the left, and try to combine it with Geno harmonic foods that are listed to the right.


There are about 15 food or beverages on the right. Obviously one cannot combine all at once.

Sometimes the left item matches to an item similar to itself. For instance, black tea to green tea. I drink both, but I generally do one or the other at a time.

Sometimes the left item matches to many items that are similar to each other. Almond butter matches in my case to Anchovy, Opaleye fish, parrotfish, perch, porgy, scup, sheepshead fish, sunfish. I presume one type of fish is sufficient.

Bullhead matches to several beverages (Black tea, lemon water, cranberry juice). I presume I drink these separately from eating the fish to avoid diluting stomach acids.

Some are combinations that I am fearful to try (Grapefruit juice with horseradish).




To get Geno Harmonic benefits do we need to eat the foods at the same sitting (meal), within a few hours, within 24 hours, or some other period?

When we match from the left is one item on the right sufficient or should I be trying to get as many items on the right as I can conceivably eat at once?






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Aw, c'mon.  Don't you just want to smear almond butter on a scup?

I have had similar questions.  Thanks for voicing them.


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Our supermarket will steam lobsters for you and so today while my husband and I were food shopping I bought two of them and I told him that Dr. D's SWAMI says I need to eat this lobster with ghee!  

Green Tea is on each listing, others include bok choy, cranberry juice, goji juice, zucchini, tomato juice, endive, grapefruit, horseradish, ghee, butter, almond butter - now these I can handle!  

I really wish the rest of my geno-harmonics were foods I actually have a chance of acquiring.
There are so many foreign foods on my list that I don't really know how much I can do unless I travel to the tropics for some of the fruits (paw paw, feijoa, spanish melon, prickly pear), go to Canada and shoot a Moose and Caribou, go out and hunt squirrels.  I have never seen pumpkin flowers for sale, and I have looked all over the internet and can't find any watermelon seeds or artichoke flour/pasta that doesn't have wheat in it.  I have never seen opaleye fish, pilchards, sheepshead fish or porgy for sale (even frozen) in my area.   I can't even look at a clam and hate anchovies.  

So I will do my best with the foods that I can get in my area and are to my taste.

If anyone hears of a pumpkin patch that doesn't produce any pumpkins this year, you will know I have been there stealing all the pumpkin flowers!!!!  I bet they are yummy, my Mom makes the zucchini flowers that she picks from her plants.

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They work!!  Oh man.  My SWAMI emphasis is detoxification, which completely changed my genoharmonic foods.  I just did a bunch of combo's, and I can barely move from detox.  I fell asleep on the couch for 2 hours after eating them, which never happens.  

I find a food on the left with a food on the right that seems to make a good combo, and just stick with something simple.  Even one combination will be beneficial... you don't need to eat all the foods on the left with all 15 matches on the right to get positive results.  For me, it's things like sesame seeds + green tea.  So I eat a handful of sesame seeds before I have my morning cup of green tea.  Easy.


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Aw, c'mon.  Don't you just want to smear almond butter on a scup?
Thai restaurants serve peanut butter sauce with fish, so perhaps one could come up with a decent tasting sauce using almond butter instead.  I have not tried this!

I presume strange sounding combinations come up because the computer is matching nutrients (or other food values) and the computer has no concept of what foods humans would actually eat together.

Still I am not sure how best to use my list.




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Maybe I should change to get detox foods maybe there would be some other foods on the list possibly?


Edit:  I tried it and they didn't change.



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I've been looking at squirrels a whole lot differently since they showed up on my harmonic food list  


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Maybe I should change to get detox foods maybe there would be some other foods on the list possibly?


I used "Compute Best" rather than one of the other options. Still the printout indicates strong detoxification from my combinations:

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these Geno-Harmonic food relationships emphasize superbeneficial foods for your blood type and GenoType which contain nutrients that enhance detoxification. Many of the genes found in the liver (the 'Phase I and Phase II' enzyme systems) speed the removal of man-made (xenobiotic) chemicals from the body. These are enhanced by choosing to eat foods combined as listed below.


I am not sure if this text would have changed if I chose something other than "Compute Best"


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I originally put "compute best" too, and just now tried changing to a few of the other options, but the geno-harmonics didn't change.



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I originally put "compute best" too, and just now tried changing to a few of the other options, but the geno-harmonics didn't change.


I just checked "Enhanced Methylation". This changes the second heading in the "Geno Harmonic Foods" section from "Enhancing Cellular Detoxification" to "Enhancing Global Remethylation Effects". The second paragraph describing the action of geno-harmonic foods also changed from what I quoted above. And it made major changes to the list of Geno Harmonic foods.

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Perhaps you changed the choice to explicitly select the same choice that the computer chose for you.  You may want to check some other options and regenerate your diet report.


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never seen pumpkin flowers

good excuse to come down and visit, Rose!


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Aw, c'mon.  Don't you just want to smear almond butter on a scup?

I have had similar questions.  Thanks for voicing them.


I can't even find scup.??? I suppose you can have the almond butter on an apple instead at the same time as dessert...all goes into the same place.
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C_Sharp,

I will have to try it again and look more closely - but it didn't seem that anything changed.  I will try again and if there are any changes I will post the results.


Lola,

You never know, if I pick all the pumpkin flowers up here, you just might see me!




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I know Dr. D eats sardine with peanut butter and says it tastes good , so why not almond butter on Scup?

What the heck is a scup?


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I re-tried each option and again nothing happened.  The paragraph even still said the emphasisi was on Cellular Detoxification.  After I put in the new option and hit the save and print button it does not re-compute.

I listed this in the SWAMI Bugs thread.

Tea Rose



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Grapefruit and horseradish together sound kind of mind blowing.
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looking at squirrels a whole lot differently since....

don t let them know!!!


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Quoted from Tea Rose
  

I really wish the rest of my geno-harmonics were foods I actually have a chance of acquiring.
There are so many foreign foods on my list that I don't really know how much I can do unless I travel to the tropics for some of the fruits (paw paw, feijoa, spanish melon, prickly pear), go to Canada and shoot a Moose and Caribou, go out and hunt squirrels.


My whole yard is full of prickly pear cactus.  And it doesn't appear anywhere in my lists.  I just cut down a new little one that was threatening my driveway.

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In regards to prickly pear you may want to look in the fruit section of your SWAMI (It is there in mine). Since prickly pear was not listed for hunters in the book I assumed it was neutral (is listed for other GenoTypes). In typepase prickly pear tunas are neutral for O secretors.

Here in North Carolina markets sell cactus, pumpkin flowers, Feijoa(not common), and paw paw in season. They may sell Spanish melon, but I do not know how to tell it from other melons.


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I do realize that the diet has to have things that are available in all areas of the country.  I will try to find a market that can possibly ship some out, also I will look to see if I can find any place that has them in dried form.



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You might be able to find prickly pear puree. Some bars make prickly pear margaritas, which are really great, I must say.
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So, if the main food to combine with others contains a list of 4 or more different types of fish, it's probably a matter of which one I can find, right?  In many cases, the only familiar fish I'm likely to find is sardines.....Others on same list are mackerel, muskellunge  mullet and herrring.   I worry about the PCBs and heavy metals of fish I don't know. I did see one list with red snapper.  

Only a few of the foods on the left side of the page are
4 or 5 stars combinations..most are 3...so if given a choice, and I have to eat some
strange combos, I honestly would rather go for the most exceptional options rather than the weakest ones.  There is soybean lecithin on most of my lists, along with pickle brine (which I think many of concluded might be the juice of fermented veggies).

Here's one of my 5 star meals....Molasses... combined with: blackberry juice (used in every one of my combos), blueberries, cabbage juice, chamomile tea, cranberries, cranberry juice, flax seed, linseed oil, flax bread, fruit pectin, ghee, gouda cheese, green tea, puffed wheat, white flour, gluten and red wine.  Can't do gluten grains....but out of all my combos, this one is the most do-able..

Another 5 star  combo......Leeks ....combined with blackberry juice, cranberry juice, flax seed,  linseed oil, flaxseed bread, fruit pectin, ghee, green tea, herring, mackerel, mullet, natto, pickle brine, sardine, soybean granules, lecithin, puffed wheat.  I can probably bake chopped leeks into my flax bread...and choose
sardines which are easy to find.

I figure I'll grind flax seeds, mix them  with blackberry/cranberry juice...
add some linseed (I'm sure it's flax oil) oil and fruit pectin and a cooled cup of
green tea and make a smoothie.  And then I'll open a can of sardines...mix it with
brine from my fermented veggies...add some lecithin.  And forget the soybean
granules and the puffed wheat.  Maybe just eat some ghee on a spoon which I
often do.

What exactly is fruit pectin?  Where do I get it?





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Pectin is a plant fiber (comes from cell walls).

It is usually used as a gelling agent when making jams and jellies.

So it might be with things related to canning.

It is usually sold as a powder. It can also be found as an ingredient
in some commercial food products.

It is sometimes used as a source of dietary fiber, so you can also find it with supplements.


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