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Lola
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been eating 1-2 cans of artichoke hearts a day
smoked trout.  You can get it right out of the can, and it tastes awesome...


those apparently are citric acid free!
and additive, flavor, nitrite free.....
or you have no adverse reaction to anything corn based.....
got the brand for others out here?


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I'm so depressed and sad about ghee.

it's gone from eat all you want to 1 tsp 4 times a week.  that's shocking...

anybody have a clue why this would happen?

it used to be listed in oils as well as dairy and now it's just in dairy with this awful restriction.        


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SYMPTOM

The portion/ servings for butter and ghee are listed under 'Dairy' but these foods are missing from that category.

PROBLEM

These foods are listed under 'Fats and Oils'

STATUS

Fixed. Foods have been moved to 'Dairy category'


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yes i saw that Lola.. that's why i went and looked and discovered the awful truth about ghee.  

oh well.. more olive oil.

God I'll miss ghee.


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Remember that the Swami program is being changed a fair bit right now as problems come up and are fixed. Just rerunning your Swami with no input changes can give different results. I wouldn't make drastic changes in your diet until this settles down, especially if it doesn't feel right to you.    If your heart swells with joy when you feel that  a certain food is back on your list I definitely would try it!

Just my 2 cents (Canadian , at that).


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those apparently are citric acid free!
and additive, flavor, nitrite free.....
or you have no adverse reaction to anything corn based.....
got the brand for others out here?


OH, you got me on the canned artichokes.  I didn't know citric acid was a problem; is it considered to be a type of vinegar?  As for the smoked fish, the only ingredients are: fish, oil, "smoke," and salt.  It's all from Trader Joe's: smoked trout, sardines, herring, and oysters.  The trout is in canola oil, which is neutral for me.  Each of the others are canned in olive oil.

But, now I'm pressed to find a new "easy" vegetable.  The artichoke hearts were perfect, because they didn't require any preparation or clean up or even a can opener.  I don't have time right now for "real" meals, let alone cooking or washing dishes... I will have time beginning August, but not now.

I guess baby carrots are an option, but ick.  Today, I got pre-packaged steamed beets, and those were okay,  but messy.  Dried seaweed could work, but you need so much of it to equal 1 cup.  Maybe canned pumpkin, if I bring a can opener?

I can't wait to be a normal human and eat/sleep/exercise again.  


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The citric acid and the 'smoke' are not desirable but depends on your level of compliance. Some people don't seem to be affected by the citric acid (corn based) but others are. The 'smoke' is just a no-no.
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I just ordered the Express today as I found out a visit with the Doc would be prohibitive (I'm unemployed). It looks like I will really have to up my fish intake along with the rest of you ... wonder what kinds of things you can make with sardines  :p  I eat them now on a rice cake with some chopped up onion. I bought some wild salmon in a can but havent gotten around to eating any yet.
We need a team meeting with a motivational speaker to come and get us eating our fishy friends instead of our beloved beef and chicken. YUCK.
I would be SOOOO happy if I could get oats and apples back in. I am too much a Scots not to eat them for too long  


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Holy cow, what ISNT corn in?  


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I just ordered the Express today as I found out a visit with the Doc would be prohibitive (I'm unemployed). It looks like I will really have to up my fish intake along with the rest of you ... wonder what kinds of things you can make with sardines  :p  


here's what i do with sardines...

mash two cans of sardines in a bowl with two eggs, 2 tbl rice flour, a pinch of cayenne powder.  

put in a large frying pay... spread out with a spactula to cover entire bottom of pan like a pancake, cook until one side is done, then flip and cook the other side.  

cut into 4 pie like pieces and freeze until ready to eat.

thaw and cover with lemon juice and salt.

delicious with rice or a salad.



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Alright now.. I need to hear from other Hunters that hopefully have had this experience.

many times when I am following the Hunter diet to the Tee... I get very restless at night.  My body.. not my brain.  It tends to want to move and not rest.  It's like there is un-used energy that needs out.

It's quite uncomfortable when trying to rest.  

I end up taking a valerian but I'd rather know what's up with this.

I exercise about 6 times a week for about 40-50 minutes per session either walking or on an aerobic type exercise machine so I know it's not that.

Anybody else?  And suggestions?


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Sounds like RLS (restless leg syndrome).  Check out other threads with the search feature, it has been discussed a few time in various places...
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I have a restless, can't get comfy body at night sometimes, too.  I've discovered that it's mostly when I have just protein and non-starchy veggies for dinner.  For me, having some fruit as a snack a hour before bedtime helps a lot.  I think the brain just needs some carbs so the seretonin can do it's job of slowing me down and relaxing me.




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I have a restless, can't get comfy body at night sometimes, too.  I've discovered that it's mostly when I have just protein and non-starchy veggies for dinner.  For me, having some fruit as a snack a hour before bedtime helps a lot.  I think the brain just needs some carbs so the seretonin can do it's job of slowing me down and relaxing me.


Well Lloyd.. it's not just my legs.. entire body.

And yes.. we had a non-starcy dinner last night. I had salmon, swiss chard chips and fruit.  so maybe there is something there.  


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Well Lloyd.. it's not just my legs.. entire body.

  


Same thing. It's what the syndrome is called.

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Well Lloyd.. it's not just my legs.. entire body.
And yes.. we had a non-starcy dinner last night. I had salmon, swiss chard chips and fruit.  so maybe there is something there.  

I'm the same. It seems like the more I work out and eat right, the less I can rest. I get really wired and feel like a spinning top. I just lie in bed for hours flipping around and getting cocoon'd in the sheet  
When I used to bodybuild someone told me that is a symptom of over-training.
I can sometimes get a crash if I eat some starch. I have tried B12 and that doesnt help me (in that respect). Let me know if you find out what is going on. I am just thankful for being unemployed while my body reacts to all this rebuilding and renewing!
Also thanks for the sardine recipe! That actually sounds doable!  


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I'm the same. It seems like the more I work out and eat right, the less I can rest. I get really wired and feel like a spinning top. I just lie in bed for hours flipping around and getting cocoon'd in the sheet  
When I used to bodybuild someone told me that is a symptom of over-training.
I can sometimes get a crash if I eat some starch. I have tried B12 and that doesnt help me (in that respect). Let me know if you find out what is going on. I am just thankful for being unemployed while my body reacts to all this rebuilding and renewing!
Also thanks for the sardine recipe! That actually sounds doable!  


Ah finally someone with the same thing!  I thought maybe someone here would be able to recommend some kind of calming supplement.  I already take B-12.  I guess I can try the magnesium again.  



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Oh, I recently discovered something.  I was taking the cyanocobalamin for b12, and after switching to the methyl form (which I found recommended on another thread), I found that I am sleeping much more restfully, once I get to sleep (like, sleeping all night with no tossing or turning.)  The trick I found, is to take it in the later afternoon (5 or 6ish) not right before bedtime.  It doesn't help me get to sleep so much, not that I usually have that problem, but I sleep better.




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Well we take the NAP brand (don't know which type that is); and it says to take before bedtime without food... so that's when we take it with our Polyflora and NAG and Magnesium.


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Ah finally someone with the same thing!  I thought maybe someone here would be able to recommend some kind of calming supplement.  I already take B-12.  I guess I can try the magnesium again.

I take a fair amt of Mg as well for muscle spasms, and it doesn't seem to help a whole lot. Does help with the chronic constipation tho (sorry, TMI)
I got my SWAMI today so am planning a fun weekend learning even more about myself and finding proposed solutions! DId you get the SWAMI?


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Alright now.. I need to hear from other Hunters that hopefully have had this experience.

many times when I am following the Hunter diet to the Tee... I get very restless at night.  My body.. not my brain.  It tends to want to move and not rest.  It's like there is un-used energy that needs out.

It's quite uncomfortable when trying to rest.  

I end up taking a valerian but I'd rather know what's up with this.

I exercise about 6 times a week for about 40-50 minutes per session either walking or on an aerobic type exercise machine so I know it's not that.

Anybody else?  And suggestions?


Did you try the alternate nostral breathing?


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Well one nostril was clogged last night but yes I thought of that.


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Well we take the NAP brand (don't know which type that is);

the best type!
read about the difference between cyano and methyl cobalamine
http://www.4yourtype.com/methylb12.asp


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