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Victoria
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Great to hear from you Symbi!  
I'm glad Yaeli thought of Dr. D's protocol for Chemo support.  It's good even after chemo is past, to help you recover.  Dr. D's health series book on cancer was my bible when I went through treatment 12 years ago and it was a real support.  Do you have a copy?  I also like Isa's mention of the mushrooms - many of them are so powerful.  I still use Reishi, Cordyceps and Maitaki every day.

Astragalus, as recommended in this protocol, is a help to rebuild the white blood cells!  

CHEMOTHERAPY ADJUNCT PROTOCOLS
  Use this protocol for 3 weeks. Discontinue for 1 week, then restart.

BLOOD GROUP A

    Quercetin Plus: 1 capsule, 2 times daily on an empty stomach
    Polyflora A (ABO-specific Probiotic): 2 capsules, twice daily
    Tranquility Base (GABA & L-Theanine Formula): 1-2 capsules, twice daily
    Astragalus (Astragalus membranaceus): 500 mg, 1-2 capsules, twice daily
    Coriolus versicolor mushroom: 300 mg, 1-2 capsules daily

NON SECRETORS

    Vitamin A 10,000 IU: 1 capsule, daily

GENERAL RECOMMENDATIONS USABLE BY ALL GROUPS

    Mr. Itaru's Green Tea: 1-3 cups daily
    ARA6 (Larch arabinogalactan): 1 tablespoon, 1-2 times daily in juice or water



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Best of health to you, Symbi...

Stay strong and determined!!! {{{{hugs}}}}}


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wow what time has past since you wrote a long time ago.. SO glad you can type.. so glad you are doing well... all the best..

and the move was timely!  things should start to look up..




Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Hi ya hun!! Good to catch up on the latest & glad things are looking up & you have lots of support here & on facebook!!!
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Hi Goldie, Possum, Victoria, Isa, Chloe, Isa, Yaeli!  Thanks for posting <<Big hug>> to all of you.  

I'm eating more mushrooms than ever thanks, mushroom pie, mushroom soup, mushroom omelette, mushroom surprise    I hear they are natural oestrogen inhibitors that should help alot.  Green tea is my fave.  

What is Astragalus?


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Pretty sure it's a herb/root..

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Quoted from Symbi

What is Astragalus?


Astragalus membranaceous, Huang Qi - the roots are used, either in capsules or dried for making tea.  It is used extensively in Traditional Chinese Medicine as an immune enhancer, particularly helpful in recovering from chemotherapy.  

You can do a Google search on the herb and educate yourself about what is said about it.



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This message is to Symbi.  I noticed your comment about Siberian Ginseng.  I have recently found this herb Gynostemma at http://vimergy.com/gynostemma-extract-powder-50g.html  I don't know if it would interest you or not, but it might be helpful.

Best wishes!
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Thanks Victoria and twobabies70 (cute name!) I could google and knowing the alternative name, Huang Qi, will help lots  

Goldie - haven't changed my situation just less time to type now than before.  Things have been improving the last few years since we moved to a nicer house and finances improved and that can change your outlook.    I am getting peripheral neuropathy from the chemo which could go on for a year.  Isa told me to have more Vit B and amino acids, which I'm doing  .  Sometimes the pain in the hands and feet is bad and limits what I can do, typing included.  

Big hug to Possum   She's been the best friend to me on Facebook and cares and cheers up so many people.  Meet some wonderful people on here.  Have a great day everyone!


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Symbi,

I'm sorry to hear of what you've been going through, but am glad that things are looking up for you.  Keep up with the high spirits and positive attitude it will take you far.  


"Prevention is the best medicine"

"One Health, One Disease"

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Hey Symbi, my wonderful Bris Vegas sister in crime!

I'm sorry to hear about your trials and tribulations in recent months, and so pleased to hear you're on the mend and have escaped that toxic house! I've not been about here much (my own challenges), so your post completely passed me by, so I'm sorry for not sending you these masses of cyber <<<hugs>>> sooner.

Nice one Victoria, I was going to suggest Astragalus too - it's wonderful and I take it daily.

Symbi, you're the epitomy of strength, commitment and healthful living and an inspiration to me personally (as I'm sure you are to many others here). If you need anything at all you need only ask me.

More cyber <<<hugs>>> and healing energy heading your way.

Andy x


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Symbi,
So glad to see you posting again.  So sorry you've been through so much but glad to here how strong you've been and that you are doing well.

I don't have anything to add in terms of suggestions but just glad to see you back here and on the way back to good health.
((((HUGS))))
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So sorry to hear of what you have been going through Symbi. I am celebrating ten years post breast cancer this October, and continue to enjoy good health, thanks to eating right these days - although I did think I was always pretty good with my eating habits really, and was shocked and disappointed to find I had the dreaded Big C.

One thing I took plenty of during radiation treatment was kelp, and seaweed in general. It is reputed to be good for protection against harmful effects of radiation. I think I read somewhere that the astronauts eat eggs and kelp on a regular basis to offset radiation effects, so I ate both daily for the duration of my treatment. I got pretty tired towards the end, but was working throughout the five week course and got through it really well, considering.

I wish you all the very best and I am sure you will be posting something similar in ten years time. Hugs to you from the Sunny Coast.
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Andy - great to hear from you! Thanks for your kind words, though I'm not feeling a pillar of strength today sick with the flu, though did weed our garden and have a playdate for my daughter.   I have lots of weight to lose since the treatment so thanks for reminding me how I used to be and I will be again.  

Everyone's support is wonderful! <3

Oh, thanks Jane <hug back>

Ladyhawk - Cheers to 10 years, you've done so well, have a great celebration!  Doesn't a diagnosis like that make you take stock, yep it was a shock to me too though I'm glad I'd read BTD books and knew it could be a possibility for us As.  We have many good strengths tho too right


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the so called *healing mushrooms* are extracts from different types but dried.... to reach therapeutic effects ; sended you once the link of the australian providers  
with all the beautiful infos.... wish you quickest recovery hugs y besos from Isa


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Thanks Isa!  
I should add connective tissue disease (getting investigated for lupus) to my already long list of ailments   That is one reason I can't take immune stimulating herbs, unfortunately.  At the moment I still have low white cells even though chemo finished over four months ago!  Now I'm going to cut down on some drugs they have put me on (Tamoxifen) me as that could be causing it?  (as well as flaring up my adenomyosis again and causing anxiety too) My platelets and red cells were low after chemo but have come back.  Or they could be dying from autoimmune destruction?  Not sure, going to see rheumatologist soon and will update.    

In good news: my iron is fine lately without supplementation (probably because I've been menopausal since October - pros and cons) and my thyroid is fine.  I requested those extra tests. Being so complicated I've learned so many things I should be a dr by now!  

Been eating well (no wheat etc) and have lost a kg after only a week!


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Hi Symbi,

Following the chemo adjunct protocol if of utmost importance, something one cannot emphasize enough!!! Coriolus versicolor is one of the most potent medicinal mushrooms. This is why I'd like to urge you, please get a second and third opinion re the immune stimulating herbs in context with your connective tissue disease.

Recovery from chemo is a matter of years. It calls for long term thinking and constant daily care. It requires very long breathing - like whales' breathing maybe?    I relate to it as a vital part of my everyday life. In my case almost 4 years passed after chemo before my white cells count crossed for the first time the lower thershold. Following my doctor's order I take Astragalus twice daily, as well as the medicinal mushroom Chaga, plus Agaricus and/or Reishi and/or Maitake.

Good luck! Looking forward   


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Symbi I am really wondering why not implementing stuffs to enhance your immunesystem... here in Switzerland a lot of interactions here are allowed, even welcomed but yup patients need to know by themselves what to go for or not... coz none of the oncologues do know...

and as Yaeli mentioned... very good advices ....
if I remember it well P.D. once mentioned Tamoxifen as a positive sideeffect to augment NK-cells... but remember you're an explorer and we do very poorely onto chemicals medications...so far...perhaps do we need more time here to recover ... Can't tell you yet but I'm sure you can do and sustain your immunesystem with good stuffs of natural origins .... (astragalus is one of the yummies here too   )

as said- wish you quickest recovery


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Thanks for the replies sorry for long afk.  Been busy with health checks, my daughter and family visits.  Sometimes feel shy too.
Yaeli - love the whale breathing tip, we can learn alot from our big, calm mammal friends.   Thanks so much for the well-timed comforting message, confirming there's a light at the end of the tunnel eventually.   you got over your chemo.  You must be very strong to have pulled through.  Glad, knowledge of natural treatments, like ginger, prebiotics, probiotics and foods I can digest well helped.  I craved cream for my raw guts though and went with it - have some weight to lose but probably better than those tablets they give you!

Cheers Isa!  Greetings to you in Switzerland.      those other effects of Tamoxifen - knowledge in and around these boards is amazing.  I do know tamox gave me really bad anxiety, even though I tapered up to the full dose (maybe half could have been better but I also didn't like the gynaecological effects); so I stopped it altogether.  Onco was quite understanding about it.   They are going to confirm menopause and try an aromastase inhibitor next.  Meanwhile I'm eating lots of mushrooms, broccoli, grape juice, avoiding soy, trying to keep oestrogen low.  

This poor bod and the treatment that it has gone through for a small lump, it isn't fair?  Still have pain in the breast and underarm quite bad.
I wonder if the radiation and/or tamoxifen affected my white cells?  Since I got over rads more I'm not catching everything and feeling almost normal.  (Could have also been catching public transport into the city and hanging around a hospital every day!)  Blood test soon should confirm white cells.

Rheumatologist was no help at all.  Mucked up in every way and I've lost faith in them.  Wants me to try Plaquenil again, like that's the only answer, bad reaction before no thanks!  Didn't get time to ask about immune enhancing, nor time to finish medical history over the past year.  Didn't even run the correct blood tests.  Bah humbug!

When I was sick with low WCC and flu last month I tried three days of daily anti-allergy tea with echinacea, ended up with a ?flare of connective tissue disease for a few days, at least short lived.  I could have low white cells because I'm autoimmune to them is another possibility.  Anyway, Gingko biloba I started recently really helping the raynauds and blood flow in the cool weather here.  Other than migraine today - we had a lot of drama in our lives lately, pretty good lately.  Only three three-weekly herceptin treatments to go.  Hoorah!


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Glad the are only 3-weekly treatments to go?! Wishing you all the best!!  
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This poor body and the treatment that it has gone through for a small lump, it isn't fair?  Still have pain in the breast and underarm quite bad.
Hi Symbi,

Thank God it was that small lump. A cancerous process is truly most severe and it is only fair that it is treated in the most serious manner and using all the knowledge available. If we talk of fairness, yes, the ignorance and shortage of info how one would better go about managing one's own life seems too unfair. But first of all, now you have found and reached and come to practice Dr. D's DPN, which in my understanding is the gate, tool, and way to retrieve and rebuild health.

Secondly, I'd like you to watch Prof. Burke lecture in youtube (7 short videos),
where he explains about cancer and about salvestrols. Watching it was the first time I ever got the picture of how cancer actually happens and develops within the 5 trillion cells which are our body.
http://www.4yourtype.com/fucus.asp

All the best!  




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dearest half of mine Symbi... I think all about Tamoxifen might be ok for teachers and even perhaps warriors but not for us the explorers, while being chemical sensitive.... ... but I thought it was ok to repeat Peters suggestions about being an A-woman and that perhaps this might function ...
but must be honest I'm muchmore convinced about the healing mushrooms (but in therapeutical dosages)and also of course  the salvestrol intake described beautifully from Prof.Dr. Dan Burke- co-founder of this beautiful and true aid....



And then something different...would you like to have some helpers to sustain your healing process I'd like to create a groupe of co-healers of this board, going into deeper meditation all at the same time dor your support. If so please let us know and I'm going to ask our beautiful and helpful members  


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What a kind gorgeous suggestion

Here's to your healing, Symbi!  


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nope.. we should come together for Symbi's reconfort .. this isn't at all my Ego who was plappering above ...sorry....


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