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I'm glad it's over.  Happy recovery!
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I have to say: I'm glad to live in these times, and not twenty years ago.... this cryo-ablation thing is wonderful: instead of a big wound several inches long I only have two small holes, where the probes were inserted.

In two days I'll also continue my chemo; but if all goes well that should be one of the last chemo's.

Especially glad to be home as I can now eat nothing but beneficials,instead of the hospital food.
Just had a spinach/kale salad with salmon and onion and olive oil/lemon juice, and I swear: just eating that salad I felt better.



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Happy you're home....and doing well!  WIshing you the very best of health


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Quoted from 2degreespisces
I have to say: I'm glad to live in these times, and not twenty years ago.... this cryo-ablation thing is wonderful: instead of a big wound several inches long I only have two small holes, where the probes were inserted.

In two days I'll also continue my chemo; but if all goes well that should be one of the last chemo's.

Especially glad to be home as I can now eat nothing but beneficials,instead of the hospital food.
Just had a spinach/kale salad with salmon and onion and olive oil/lemon juice, and I swear: just eating that salad I felt better.


thinking of you with very positive thoughts. oxo


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Had chemo yesterday; oncologist was quite impressed with my speedy recovery from the operation I had just a few days before.
Bloodtest also showed I'm doing well, and my oncologist is on board with my plan to stop the chemo and see what happens without it.

It seems I really did turn my life around, turned my diseased body back into a healthy one, even though nobody believed it was even possible.

Sometimes I look back and I'm amazed that I didn't let the constant negative input from the people around me get me down... how did I keep the faith, when everyone said there was no hope? Funny how I can't seem to remember how I did it then...

But I'm glad I did persevere.

Anyway, I'm just rambling a little here. Feeling happy and grateful, optimistic.


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Also having the worst cravings for everything green: spinach, green beans, salads, kale, leeks, chives...
It's all I want to eat, I actually have to force myself to take something else besides veggies  


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Quoted from 2degreespisces
Also having the worst cravings for everything green: spinach, green beans, salads, kale, leeks, chives...
It's all I want to eat, I actually have to force myself to take something else besides veggies  

This sounds like an indication of what the body needs right now...  Usually a good idea to provide as much as is wanted...

Congratulations of the successful operation and healing!


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Wow- what an incredible testimonial!

I have an aunt who was treated for breast cancer a few years ago. She's simply not interested in changing her diet, and I'm not going to argue with her about it. I don't even know her blood type. I do know that she's still quite weak, and she blames the cancer treatment, not the cancer itself, for her current state of health. I don't know whether or not that's accurate.


Ruth, Single Mother to 20 yo  O- Leah , 18 yo O- Hannah, and  13 yo B+ Jack


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Quoted from ABJoe

This sounds like an indication of what the body needs right now...  Usually a good idea to provide as much as is wanted...

Congratulations of the successful operation and healing!


Thanks, ABJoe!

As for giving my body what it needs, I have a history of craving the "wrong" foods (potatoes come to mind   ), so I'm always a little wary when I start craving specific foods.
But I figured that since these green veggies are all beneficials for my type, I can't really go wrong.

It seems I need to relearn how to have faith in my own body again, after so many years of disease. I'm taking it as a positive sign that my cravings are now for healthy foods, my body seems to know better what it needs, now that I quit putting all the wrong things in it.


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Quoted from 2degreespisces

It seems I need to relearn how to have faith in my own body again, after so many years of disease. I'm taking it as a positive sign that my cravings are now for healthy foods, my body seems to know better what it needs, now that I quit putting all the wrong things in it.


The way I 'reset' my body to crave foods that are good for me was to eat only Diamond Superfoods (or, Beneficials in the BTD era).  I had serious illness to recover from, so the highest level of compliance made sense from that perspective also.  The result was that I came to love the foods that are good for me and lost all desire for foods that are toxic or counter-productive for my body.  Now that my health has become stable, I will eat Neutrals occasionally, but still crave those Diamonds.  



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Thank you for your reply, Victoria! I hope you're fully recovered. Very informative to read that you still crave those Diamonds!

I'm doing exactly what you deseribe: eating to the highest level of compliance, with Dr D's cancer book as a reliable guide throughout all.
I've noticed that my body now craves only things that are good for me, but it seems I've got to make some changes in my head, because it's my head that's lagging behind, not my body  

I have a hard time having faith in my body's ability to know what's good for me; that's really something I have to relearn.
I've gone for so long on rationality, it'll be good to let some intuition back into my life.

(If this is a little vague, please ignore   I'm trying to put feelings into words and that's a bit difficult sometimes).


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Quoted from 2degreespisces
As for giving my body what it needs, I have a history of craving the "wrong" foods (potatoes come to mind   ), so I'm always a little wary when I start craving specific foods.
But I figured that since these green veggies are all beneficials for my type, I can't really go wrong.

Like Victoria said - When I have a craving, I choose something from the Beneficial / Superfood list that relieves the craving...  So I'm always eating beneficial foods that feed the craving, so I am eating healing foods that the body says it needs.


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Quoted from ABJoe

Like Victoria said - When I have a craving, I choose something from the Beneficial / Superfood list that relieves the craving...  So I'm always eating beneficial foods that feed the craving, so I am eating healing foods that the body says it needs.


2 degreespices, I agree with what ABJoe says here about working within the Beneficial choices, even when following my intuition.  

This way of eating is all about satisfying our body's needs and not being yanked around by the whims of cravings.  It's not about depriving.  When eliminating some favorite food that was bad for me, I always look at what it was about that food that appealed to me, and I come up with a splendid version of that quality but in a food that is a healing tonic to my whole system.



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Thank you Victoria and ABJoe, for your input.

I hope you've read my own posts as well: I am eating nothing but beneficials and cancer specific super foods (have been for the past 22 months). So that's almost two whole years of very strict compliant eating.

What I was trying to say was that in the past I had cravings for the wrong type of food. Cravings equalled bad choices.
Lately I've realised that I'm actually craving healthy things, so that's a big step forward. However, in my head I'm not entirely up to date yet, I still react as if I can't trust my body or the needs it has.
That's due to years of illness and detoxing, I guess.

I'm still getting used to having cravings that are actually healthy for me   and the biggest hurdle in my head really seems to be the fact that I 'm having a hard time trusting my body again.


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Thank you Victoria and ABJoe, for your input.

I hope you've read my own posts as well: I am eating nothing but beneficials and cancer specific super foods (have been for the past 22 months). So that's almost two whole years of very strict compliant eating.

What I was trying to say was that in the past I had cravings for the wrong type of food. Cravings equalled bad choices.
Lately I've realised that I'm actually craving healthy things, so that's a big step forward. However, in my head I'm not entirely up to date yet, I still react as if I can't trust my body or the needs it has.
That's due to years of illness and detoxing, I guess.

I'm still getting used to having cravings that are actually healthy for me   and the biggest hurdle in my head really seems to be the fact that I 'm having a hard time trusting my body again.


I have read the entire thread as each post was made, but don't remember in detail what was shared in the earlier posts.  I'm so glad you're being consistent with what you're eating - it will be all for your good.  

I understand about having a hard time trusting your body again.  After a serious illness, we find it hard sometimes to feel safe in just assuming that we can count on our bodies behaving predictably.  It's something that people who have never lived through something like this cannot really understand.



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Quoted from Victoria


I understand about having a hard time trusting your body again.  After a serious illness, we find it hard sometimes to feel safe in just assuming that we can count on our bodies behaving predictably.  It's something that people who have never lived through something like this cannot really understand.


That's it, exactly!   And it's true that it's a difficult thing to explain, even my husband (who is absolutely wonderful and has been great throughout my illness) does not get that I have to rebuild my faith in my own body.

I hope you'll continue to be in good health, it's very encouraging to read from people who've recovered from serious illness with the help of BTD. Thank you!



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Wow spice!! I hadn't read this thread, having been away & also not being an A... but sooo glad I did!! Amazing spirit!! Congrats on your journey, courage & determination & lovely to meet you!! I really look forward to reading more... & many thanks to Spring for posting the link to your story!!!

Oops; just realised Spice is not the right abbreviation..
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Possum, no problem, you can call me spice if you like  

Thanks for your kind words, I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised by the people on these boards.
Rarely have I seen an online community so willing to help each other, to try and find solutions for people's problems, etc.

It's really great being here.


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Cheers!!! Yeah, its a great community... Glad you are part of it
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Thanks for your kind words, I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised by the people on these boards.
Rarely have I seen an online community so willing to help each other, to try and find solutions for people's problems, etc.

It's really great being here.


This board is here because of Dr. D'Adamo and I've found that the people here genuinely make an effort to reflect his wisdom and generosity of spirit.  

And yes, it is really, really great being here!  



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Quoted from ABJoe

When I have a craving, I choose something from the Beneficial / Superfood list that relieves the craving...  So I'm always eating beneficial foods that feed the craving, so I am eating healing foods that the body says it needs.


Wonderful words of wisdom, which I shall attempt to follow in my own life. Thanks Joe .


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This is a great thread, I just read it in it's entirety (I'm avoiding some house work ) and I'm very glad I did, great to hear of your success 2degreespisces!

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“Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food”
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“Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It’s perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we’ve learned something from yesterday.”

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Thanks, grey rabbit! Great quote, from Hippocrates  

Your topic has inspired me to finally contact some law schools and find out if I qualify. I've been postponing this for years now (always with the rationale that I need to get better first), but this year I'm doing it.
Or at least I'm taking action  


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Like Victoria said - When I have a craving, I choose something from the Beneficial / Superfood list that relieves the craving...  So I'm always eating beneficial foods that feed the craving, so I am eating healing foods that the body says it needs.

For some reason, if I feel this "need" for something that absolutely no beneficials satisfy, ginger is my go-to food! Works every time!! I don't have any particularly strong cravings, but ginger just mows down any feelings of just "wanting to eat!"


"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." -- Benjamin Franklin
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What a wonderful inspirational attitude you have.  This is the first time I've seen this thread.  Congratulations on your wonderful progress and your truly special way of handling the cancer.  

We can all learn from your positive message!  
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