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2degreespisces
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Hi,

I'm new to the BTD forums, but would like to share my story and maybe exchange experiences with fellow breast cancer sufferers.

I come from a long line of Type A women who all developed an aggressive form of breast cancer before they were 40 years old. I lost my mother, aunt, and grandmother to the disease. As a matter of fact, I am currently the only woman in that family line who is still alive, to give you an idea of the toll breast cancer took in my family.

At age 28 I fell ill myself, and for the last eight years I've had to deal with one recurrence after another, chemo after chemo, radiation and operations, so you can imagine I was getting a little tired of fighting all the time.

But then something funny happened: after seeing a documentary on TV about abbatoirs I decided, just like that, to stop eating meat.
And I immediately felt better. Being a Type A that's to be expected, but I didn't know about BTD at the time!
So I started looking into vegetarian food more and stumbled onto the BTD books. Read them, thought there might be something in it, and started adjusting my diet.

A few years ago I was virtually given up by my doctors: several metastases, poor outlook, general pessimism.
Now I only have one single tumor left, that'll be operated on next week, and if that one's gone, I'll be cancer free for the first time in eight years. Eight years!!!
Tumor markers are in the normal range too.
My oncologist doesn't believe the diet has anything to do with this; she likes to credit her chemo and her operations.

I will not deny they played a huge part, but let's get one thing clear: I started getting better only from the moment I started eating right for my type.

And I think, I hope, that after 8 long years, I can soon pick up my life again and start living, not surviving.



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Thanks for sharing the story. (I assume you have also at least six whorls on your finger prints.) Did you ever try to eat snail though? Good luck and I am sure you will be successful in getting rid of the problem soon.



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Have you seen the Cancer book by Dr. D'Adamo?


Also if you can get in touch with Karen Vago she might be able to help you get a SWAMI-- professional version.

Karen is french and you can find her on Facebook.

Just let her know we sent you.




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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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oh wow what a great testimonial... thank you so much for sharing and I can absolutely relate to your case- I do have some A'cancer patient with similar outcomes but since two years I changed a bit their supplements and added more phytotherapeutica with great success; the most important for me today is the implementation of graviola, salvestroles, paw-paw, healing mushrooms, beta glucans and other good working stuffs.

And of course one of my preferest book in cancertreatment is Dr. D's booklet as well
oo your oncologue should have an eye into this diet- it helps tremendiously and is one of the best I ever used to prevent any disease....

Wish you all the best for your next op and perhaps would you want to lokk here :www.orthokennis.org

greetings from Switzerland


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@kumar: I don't eat snails, but I do take the Helix Plus capsules  

@Andrea AWSec: yes, I have the cancer book.
I'll try and find Karen Vago; however, I'm not French, just living in France  
Edit: I see she's not French either, have sent her a friend request. Thanks!


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@Amazone I: thank you for your reply! I'll look into the link you posted.
My oncologist is a very nice woman, but extremely sceptical. We've had many animated discussions; she maintains my against-all-odds recovery is due to her treatment, I maintain that my change of diet has played (and still plays) a crucial role.

She's very supportive of many of the diet changes I made though, mainly because they make sense, whether you believe in BTD or not.


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Wow, you've had it rough.  I'm so glad you've found so much life and success with this diet. Welcome to the forum
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What a wonderful story.  I wish you success in becoming cancer free.


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Congrats! Wishing you continued improvement of health.

My cousin was diagnosed with breast cancer last year at the age of 39. She turned 40 and had surgery recently after chemo. She is undergoing radiation. I saw my aunt the other day and mentioned the BTD. The words just went in one ear and out the other. I just wish more people would become BTD aware.


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2degreespices... you only can win with salvestroles... a professional agreed aid... and underlined with scientifique aprooved tests... I am working also with the whole group of Prof Dan Burke and must say- the results are really amazing .....no doubts... but I know nearly all onco's are likewise coz they can't accept that a lot of their recommendations won't help in reality...so far better and easier to point out to others instead looking into their own pots ....


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Quoted from passionprincess
Congrats! Wishing you continued improvement of health.

I just wish more people would become BTD aware.


I ditto that....I wish you the very best of health.    Thanks for sharing your experience...

As for wishing that more people would become BTD aware.....I've been talking about this diet since I began eating this way....when I was 46 years years old and saw Dr. D for the first time....Back
then, people looked at me like I had two heads....that I was following a ridiculous concept that
had no proof, no track record and this was long before Dr. D wrote ER4YT..long before the BTD was a mainstream concept....Although I don't think it really IS a mainstream concept, I find as I tell people about the way I eat, I find most people don't even know their blood type but more and more
people do seem to be interested, or at least curious to hear me explain what I've experienced....I did manage to convince a few nurses to buy the book....and many of my family members have a SWAMI, but for the most part, too many people think their doctors know everything.  What we specifically eat and how our individual bodies are able to process those foods is key. I can't help but wonder how many
sick people would feel well if all doctors said to their patients " First thing you do is....eat for your blood type".  I am quite sure the body does know how to heal itself....if given the right tools.


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@Chloe, thanks for your message. I wholeheartedly agree that given the right tools, the body can begin to heal itself.
I believe that I've only come through those huge amounts of chemotherapy because I gave my body the tools to withstand the constant attacks.
I must admit that five years ago, I would have been one of those persons not even knowing their bloodtype, let alone contemplating a diet based on it.

However, I found that the correlation between blood type and cancer, as the correlation between blood type and other diseases, was scientifically sound; that alone sparked my interest; and in fact my oncologist is aware of the link, but refuses to believe that this link can be used to treat the disease.

@passionprincess, if your cousin, like me, is a Type A, then the fact that breast cancer is so prevalent in women with our bloodtype might be the beginning of an interest in BTD. It was for me! I never knew there was a link between being a Type A and breast cancer; learning that little fact was the beginning of the long road back to health, for me.



@Amazone I, I've read about salvestrol, I'm not yet taking any supplements with salvestrol.




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And thank you to all for your kind words; I'm very glad I finally decided to join the message boards.
And that only because I just couldn't find whether sheep's milk/cheese was acceptable or avoid for my blood type  


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btw...it wasn't intended to be inpolite coz my meaning about oncos...sorry for that...
but this is my own experience since years- they don't like it that we even have more success and allow ourselfs to speak *tacheles* ...
and fine that you are now with us 2degreespisces


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Your opinion about oncologists doesn't bother me in the slightest   I've had the misfortune to know some very very bad ones, but also the good luck to find one great doctor.
The one I have now is not so bad; and as I'm finally seeing the end of the ordeal, she will soon become my "check-up doctor" and no longer my oncologist.
At least, that's what I'm hoping  


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so I feel a bit more released ..btw my ebf was *short-cut* from those badies last January...so far I know from what you're speaking about ... ....


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And to think you were only 28 when this began..... I am so happy that you found the right path to getting help! There is no telling how many people will benefit from your story - most of all because it will give them the courage they desperately need to "go against the flow" and protect themselves in every way they can against the assault, in so many cases, of what passes for medical care in our day. So much is simply left undone that could help people... Your testimonial is like a light at the end of a very long, dark tunnel for many people. Thanks very much for sharing!!


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@Spring: thank you!

Thankfully diet is one of the few things we can still have some control over, when we're in the middle of treatment.
That alone makes the blood type diet such an effective ally against both the disease itself and the effects of those harsh treatment protocols.


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@Spring: thank you!

Thankfully diet is one of the few things we can still have some control over, when we're in the middle of treatment.
That alone makes the blood type diet such an effective ally against both the disease itself and the effects of those harsh treatment protocols.


You're very welcome, 2degreespisces!! I have seen so many people literally terrified to do anything except what is demanded of them by their medical "advisers." My internist moved away some time ago so I started going to another doctor. It was a big shock to this guy that in spite of all his efforts he never has been able to get me into the "fear state!!" The idea of such a thing is so repulsive to me!! Right now I don't especially need an internist anyway. My GYN is very knowledgeable about vitamins, etc., so I will be seeing him occasionally along with my cardiologist, and, hopefully, that won't be very often!! The few oncologists I have had any dealings with because of family members and friends needing them may as well be wearing a death's head.    


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Thanks for sharing the story. (I assume you have also at least six whorls on your finger prints.)


I see that I completely overlooked your remark, Kumar!
And actually no, I have no whorls at all on my finger prints.

Having many whorls statistically raises your chances of developing breast cancer, but clearly it's no prerequisite to getting the disease.



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@Spring, I'm with you in hoping you won't have to see either of your doctors very often!
And finding a good one is a hard task; in these eight years I've known 5 oncologists: 1 truly horrible specimen, 1 truly great doctor, and three average "typical" doctors.
Thankfully I've become quite knowledgeable about my illness, having taken care of both my mother and my aunt until their deaths, and then living through eight years of disease myself; and I now know how to separate the good ones from the bad ones  


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2degrees - I am glued to your posts because I just got news that my aunt wants to discontinue treatment. She is around 70 years old and has breast cancer. She has edema and severe heart pain along with no appetite. She does not even have the strength to keep her eyes open.

My uncle is quite emotionally reserved. He is known in the family as the "macho guy". However, he said my aunt's oncologist was a "cold" person. Mom asked if she was a leading specialist since they live close to Johns Hopkins. Mom wants my aunt to switch doctors. It seems like my uncle can't convince my aunt so my uncle told my mom to stop calling them for a while... I guess mom showing worry was increasing my uncle's feelings of anxiety and helplessness.

Sorry for venting but I am just upset that my aunt is going to give up her fight.

Reading your posts fill me with hope. I am hoping that my aunt will change her mind and get help.

Thank you for being an inspiration!


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@passionprincess, first of all: I'm so sorry to read about your aunt. Her illness must be very hard for you and your family.
Second of all, it seems that there are several issues at play: between your aunt's exhaustion, your uncle's anxiety and your mom's wish to help there are clearly many emotions going around.

I don't know if your aunt is getting the best care, or if she's right in wanting to stop her treatment.
What I do know is that cancer treatment can take away all your energy, leaving you hollow and empty and (understandably) not in a fighting mood.
So even if she does make the choice to discontinue treatment, I hope she can turn that into a positive experience, regaining some of her energy and appetite.
If that should happen, who knows, she might be willing to look into starting another round of treatment. But I think first priority should be for her to get back some quality of life.

Being tired, with heart pain and loss of appetite can be extremely depressing. Anything that would give her back some pleasure in life isn't necessarily a bad thing, I think.

I hope you and your mom will be able to stay in contact with her. Cancer is a difficult experience for everyone involved.






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Hi, 2degrees.

Thank you for your response!

I suspect that my aunt's doctor is not compassionate in nature. When my aunt and uncle went to her regarding the heart pain and exhaustion, the doctor just told them that nothing is wrong with her heart. I have a medical background but I have stopped working in the field. I explained to my mom and dad that my aunt's heart pain can be a result of exhaustion and malnutrition. After all, the edema is a sign that her kidneys are being taxed by the chemo and with not eating enough, the body lacks fuel and energy, which is overworking the heart.

My family and I live in Los Angeles and my aunt and uncle live in Maryland. My cousins live in near them and I wanted to contact them via Facebook. They have no idea that their mother wants to discontinue treatment. My mom told me not to say anything because it would cause more drama. I wish my cousins would try bringing food over, etc. They are male and not as "domesticated". I feel that if they were female, they would be more into cooking and possibly doing some BTD stuff/looking into supplements.


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Passionprincess, I understand that being on the other side of the country doesn't make it easier for you to be involved! That must be frustrating for you at times.
As for the the subject of nutrition: even if your cousins were to bring over food, if your aunt is feeling very sick or just doesn't have an appetite, bringing her food wouldn't help. If she can't eat, even the best dishes made with love won't help.
That's why I said that I think first priority should be to make her life easier, to give her back some energy and appetite.
Her current treatment is apparently making her feel ill, so I'm sorry to read that her oncologist dismisses her problems so easily. There are always alternatives, so I very much hope that she can continue treatment, but in another form that will not make her feel as bad.



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