Quoted from Steve Shapiro

I\'ll be happy to address any specific questions addressed to me (rather than have rumors about me and \"maybes\" such as \"Vegan Joe\'s\" comments gain substance).

be well,
steve

My only real question is: can one be sure it was only the lack of animal proteins, or was it just the wrong plants? i.e. grains, legumes, avoids, etc.. My thought is that this question cannot be successfully answered, as all of Dr. D\'s diet recommendations were incorporated at approximately the same time, in your case.

Quoted from Vegan Joe

My only real question is: can one be sure it was only the lack of animal proteins, or was it just the wrong plants? i.e. grains, legumes, avoids, etc.. My thought is that this question cannot be successfully answered, as all of Dr. D\'s diet recommendations were incorporated at approximately the same time, in your case.

No amount of evidence will change the mind of someone who is invested in something that is contrary.

Usually the level of proof required to change one's mind is much greater than that originally needed to come to the original conclusion.

How that applies to you, Steve, your best friend's Aunt Sally or anything else is something that you will have to determine for yourself.

So nice to see you again Steve.   

Quoted from Lloyd

No amount of evidence will change the mind of someone who is invested in something that is contrary.

Usually the level of proof required to change one\'s mind is much greater than that originally needed to come to the original conclusion.

How that applies to you, Steve, your best friend\'s Aunt Sally or anything else is something that you will have to determine for yourself.

You\'re assuming that all are ignorant and can\'t change, by claiming \"no amount of evidence\",
and it still doesn\'t address a valid question. who\'s answer is clouded in a combination of effects. I\'m not into rejecting truth so long as it\'s clear and apparent. The answer to my question is clouded, so why would someone jump to conclusions.

Quoted from Vegan Joe

My only real question is: can one be sure it was only the lack of animal proteins, or was it just the wrong plants? i.e. grains, legumes, avoids, etc.. My thought is that this question cannot be successfully answered, as all of Dr. D\'s diet recommendations were incorporated at approximately the same time, in your case.

Um, Hi Vegan Joe,

A couple of points:

1) It is impossible to itemize 12 years of experiences in a few paragraphs. I've filled in a few more details below.

2) to address your real question: I believe that it was both - a lack of animal protein and the wrong plants. I could be wrong, but whether I am right or wrong is moot:

I'm not really sure of anything. I have no agenda other than my desire to participate in my son's childhood and live long enough to see him grow up.

How anybody else chooses to select the foods they eat has little impact on me other than causing my insurance rates to increase.

This is not a topic for debate. This is what happened to me.  

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Additional background

I started the blood type diet as a raw food vegan, including making my own sprouted wheat and sprouted wheat flour. Then, to the best of my recollection, I started incorporating cooked vegan foods.  This process involved several months, to the best of my recollection (not all at once).

In the pemphigus article, I never mentioned my reason for my raw food/vegan/vegetarianism: Most of it was for health reasons, some ethical, and some environmental.

As I noticed the improvement I mentioned, I decided that Dr. D'Adamo's theories were more applicable to my health than vegetarian/vegan theories. I therefore decided to incorporate meat into my diet. My first taste was 1/8 of a pound of ground organic beef. At the time I consumed it, I was convinced that my body would reject it (per vegetarian thought at the time).

In the 12 years since, I have several times attempted to live as a type O vegetarian. None of the attempts were successful - they all resulted in lack of stamina, sore throats, headaches, tummy aches and general malaise.

be well,
steve

Done! Good to see you!

Thank you Steve!

How does Steve have zero posts on the board when he's posted several times on this thread alone?

Quoted from ruthiegirl

How does Steve have zero posts on the board when he's posted several times on this thread alone?

His posts (prior to this point) were done when the thread was in the little fishes forum. Posts in little fishes are not included in post count.

Quoted from Vegan Joe

You\'re assuming that all are ignorant and can\'t change, by claiming \"no amount of evidence\",
and it still doesn\'t address a valid question. who\'s answer is clouded in a combination of effects. I\'m not into rejecting truth so long as it\'s clear and apparent. The answer to my question is clouded, so why would someone jump to conclusions.

Not at all. It clearly was not addressed to answer a specific question, nor does it assert that anyone is ignorant or incapable of change.

I have previously posted here about disconfirmation bias. If you never suffer from it, then by all means disregard what I said.

Great testimonial as this one is up there with Debbie Cardone's MS testimonial (Cocky's 2006 blog) as being truely inspiring  

Hey Steve, you wrote a great blog post!  I've also linked to it from my blog.

Ruth, Steve goes a long way, and currently has other obligations, thus the reason he comes in sporadically

I was lucky to meet him in person 2003 during the very first IFHI certification

He had a ppp presentation about his illness and development following BTD

Yeah the O vegetarian story, always a slam dunk.