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Peppermint Twist
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Lisa.. have you tried two Tranquility base two cortiguard.. and two b12 one hour before bed?

Two B12 an hour before bed to help someone sleep?  WHAT?!     B-12 makes me wide awake in America, baby!  I usually try not to even eat any nutritional yeast in my evening meal because, if it is a potent batch, the B-spectrum vitamins in it definitely can keep me up all night, "racing".  (Interestingly, I do notice this hasn't happened as much lately, if I do eat nutritional yeast in the evenings...but I digress, sort of...)

Taking an actual B-12 supplement before bed would definitely be contraindicated, in my opinion, for anyone who has trouble sleeping at night!

(Please note that I am all for taking B-12 in the morning for folks who need a healthy shot of energy, so nothing against B-12, but I'm just saying that, as a sleep aid, that would be the very last thing I'd take, except possibly for a hit of Jolt Cola.   )



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P.S.  I got so freaked out about the thought of anyone taking B-12 to help them sleep (   ) that I completely forgot to post what I originally was going to say in this thread.  

Adam:  A few years ago, when I started taking CoQ10 for gum health, I accidentally discovered something:  it must have helped to regulate my circadian rhythm or something because it really, really helped me start sleeping better at night, in addition to giving me energy and a wonderful sense of well-being in the day.  So it is energizing (on a deep cellular level, by the way) yet it also is deeply relaxing/reseting to one's day/night clock.  And this is just to name a little of what this wonderful substance does for me.

I still have problems getting enough sleep, but CoQ10 helps me a lot.  It is now one of my few "staple supplements".  The main reason I take it now is that it is excellent for your heart.  Women out there, it is also protective against breast cancer.  The stuff is wonderful.  For energy/sleep regulation, it can't be beat.*

* edited to add:  A related aside:  Anyone on a statin should be supplementing with CoQ10, as statins deplete the body of CoQ10.  I have FINALLY gotten my mom to agree to taking it, and I just got her a bottle of 60 mg CoQ10, which I will take to her next time I see her, yay!  I'm so happy about this.  She has VERY low energy and a lot of pain in her legs.  Could be old age and arthritis, etc., but also the fact that she is a long-time statin user could be a big part of this.  It will be interesting to see if the CoQ10 supplementation helps her.  Like a little chicken soup (except for B's), "it couldn't hurt".


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Quoted from Peppermint Twist

Two B12 an hour before bed to help someone sleep?  WHAT?!     B-12 makes me wide awake in America, baby!  I usually try not to even eat any nutritional yeast in my evening meal because, if it is a potent batch, the B-spectrum vitamins in it definitely can keep me up all night, "racing".  (Interestingly, I do notice this hasn't happened as much lately, if I do eat nutritional yeast in the evenings...but I digress, sort of...)



What form of B12 did you try?  I take Methyl B12 from NAP an hour before bedtime and it absolutely doesn't keep me awake.  
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What form of B12 did you try?  I take Methyl B12 from NAP an hour before bedtime and it absolutely doesn't keep me awake.

I haven't taken any B-12 supplement in years.  I get plenty of B12 in my diet.  I was responding regarding the suggestion that anyone take B12 as a sleep aid, which frankly I think is contraindicated as such.  A good, high-quality, active B-12 supplement is a beautiful thing, don't get me wrong...just NOT as a sleep aid, imho.  It is best taken in the morning, so that it won't keep you up at night.



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thanks, P.T.......from all of us, "sleepless in America".
I'll go back to CoQ10, which I used to take. and knock off the B-12 at night. Last night I even tried a shot of whiskey, I was so desperate! It didn't help.
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thanks, P.T.......from all of us, "sleepless in America".
I'll go back to CoQ10, which I used to take. and knock off the B-12 at night. Last night I even tried a shot of whiskey, I was so desperate! It didn't help.


And the 5mg melatonin? Hey, if you don't have any in the house, just double up on your 3mg and see if you can go down.



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righto! will do.  
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Did a wiki lookup on CoQ10, and noticed that I get that via fish, soy, and olive oil.  Hmmmm.....been cooking that tofu in olive oil, might be a connection there.

Had that walk around the lake today, took me about 50 minutes.  It's about 2 1/2 miles.  Skipping the tofu tonight, instead some great northern bean soup.  We'll see if exercise is the key.  I'll dose with 500mg of Mg as well.
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This B12 before sleep has been discussed in previous threads were if I remember right there were quotes from Dr D about the benefits of B12 for energy in the early morning or for helping sleep before bedtime!!!  It does work for both, it regulates the sleep/awake  patterns in our bodies ... of course, not any B12 may work ... I have only tried Dr D's B12 and bounced with energy during the day and sleep like baby at night ... this is by just taking it before bedtime ... from someone who also had trouble going to sleep at night ...  




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This B12 before sleep has been discussed in previous threads were if I remember right there were quotes from Dr D about the benefits of B12 for energy in the early morning or for helping sleep before bedtime!!!  



I knew I had read it here and that was why I started taking it at bedtime.  I'm lucky to not fall asleep reading after I take it.
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If your A's like salty things, then this is the ticket.  I have recently switched from firm to soft tofu, as well, as I like the creamy texture of soft, compared to the sponge-like texture of firm tofu.  

Just take the entire cake and squeeze it gently over the sink until you get as much water from it as possible.  Then wrap it in a bunch of paper towels and squeeze it some more.  You won't get all of the water out of it even after this.

Slice it up (around 2" by 4" pieces, around 1/2" thick) and coat it in the brown rice flour.  Let them sit and absorb the flour for a while.  Then coat them again.  Even a third time.  Heat a little non-stick pan, and add light olive oil until to about 1/2 depth.  Don't heat the pan too high, just medium to medium high.

Lay a couple pieces in the oil, and use a good set of tongs to pick them up and gently turn them.  Let them go about 4 or 5 minutes each side, until light brown, and then onto a plate with paper towels.

Mince several cloves of garlic and add to either soy sauce (very salty) or wheat free tamari (not as salty), and stir the garlic around in the soy sauce.

Give each person their own little bowl with the garlic soy sauce, a couple of pieces of tofu on a plate, and see what happens.

You might be pleasantly surprised.  


Thank you for those very specific directions, Adam.  I am surrounded by A's.  My husband is a warrior by measurements.  So far, there is not much interest in them following the diet, but they will eat anything that tastes good to them.  I haven't tried to cook tofu for 30 years.  This sounds simple. I am going to give it a try.

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Thank you for those very specific directions, Adam.  I am surrounded by A's.  My husband is a warrior by measurements.  So far, there is not much interest in them following the diet, but they will eat anything that tastes good to them.  I haven't tried to cook tofu for 30 years.  This sounds simple. I am going to give it a try.



Let me know the results.  I'd be interested to know if you get, as a reaction from your hubby, "not bad" or "Ewww!"  
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quoted from Andrea:
I have a book called "Desperately Seeking Snoozin," that I bought several years ago. I just took it out a few nights ago and started reading it again to see if I missed anything.
Love that title!!! So creative & clever

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last night.....4-5 hrs.......becoming typical..... .....maybe I should just stay up till 2....
watch a movie....or work on artwork, like I used to back in the day....!  (kinda kidding...?)
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last night.....4-5 hrs.......becoming typical..... .....maybe I should just stay up till 2....
watch a movie....or work on artwork, like I used to back in the day....!  (kinda kidding...?)


No!   What happened to the melatonin? It just stopped working?



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Try reading a knitting pattern or knitting book! That'll put you right to sleep!


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Adam:  A few years ago, when I started taking CoQ10 for gum health, I accidentally discovered something:  it must have helped to regulate my circadian rhythm or something because it really, really helped me start sleeping better at night, in addition to giving me energy and a wonderful sense of well-being in the day.  So it is energizing (on a deep cellular level, by the way) yet it also is deeply relaxing/reseting to one's day/night clock.  And this is just to name a little of what this wonderful substance does for me.

I still have problems getting enough sleep, but CoQ10 helps me a lot.  It is now one of my few "staple supplements".  The main reason I take it now is that it is excellent for your heart.  Women out there, it is also protective against breast cancer.  The stuff is wonderful.  For energy/sleep regulation, it can't be beat.*



Awesome! I've started taking it recently and I'm one of those people that can stay up till 3am or even 4 before being tired enough to sleep. My adrenals aren't happy at all with me. Good to know the CoQ10 is going to help me with that too! VERY HAPPY!


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OK....I'll take the CoQ10!!!!! with high hopes.
San J....yeah, I still take the melatonin, but it doesn't do anything....maybe I'll stop it for a bit and see...nothing to lose.....got 4 hrs last night.
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