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have you been adding trehalose?
What?
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have you been adding trehalose?

I started to mention the same thing earlier! Certainly seems that it would be a fit, doesn't it?


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have you been adding trehalose?


Yes...  It seems to have increased the symptoms, so I assume that means it has helped speed up the healing.  


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What?

TJ,
Trehalose Complex is a new supplement from DPN that stimulates MTOR independent autophagy.
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP067

Here is a blog by Dr. D. about it:
http://n-equals-one.com/blogs/2011/12/22/1851/

He also posted an audio presentation that I can't find at the moment.  The title is mTOR Independent Autophagy.


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it is doing its thing no doubt!

I too fell as a child, 1 whole floor when playing on the banister......

but on my but!!!!

recurrent sciatica pain throughout my youth and adolescence, motherhood....
bladder infections.....bla bla.....
bt/gt guidelines has left those way behind, never to return

I find your healing journey fascinating!!
keep us posted


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Glad you are better.  It is stories like that and of course that I see progress in myself that keep me going.  

I'm sure it will be better when finished...  Right now it is plenty annoying.


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My cranio-sacral therapist explains to me that the cranial plates are in constant movement. Actually every single organ and system has its own breathing rhythm and directions.



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I read the blog on trehalose when it was first published but I had not idea that it would apply to this situation.  Maybe I should read it again.
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Here is on exercise for EVERYONE .. for back and neck pain and for RELAXATION while doing GOOD for you!.  Especially those who jog and push their body forward, thus creating a hunchback stance when getting older..

1)   Choose a time when you can spend 20 minutes beginning to end.. take the phone with you or let it ring.. take eye shades with you or listen to TV .. just don't read a book as it would bend your neck.

2)   THE IDEAL here would be IF you can do it without many books or just a skinny one under your head. But to start with, take as many books needed to be comfortable as that is most important -- this is not a one time CORRECTION.

3)   If you can get on the floor (and get up again) lye on the floor and place your knees and feet in a square angle over the couch, scoot close to the couch to support your knees but not hanging from them........   If you are not able to get off the floor, then build a couch pillow tower on your bed.  

4)   Support your head comfortably. Eventually you will only need a one inch book/pillow.

5)    Now lie down for 20 minutes with your arms comfortable.

6)    After a while put your hands on the floor straight out and rotate one arm at a time (holding the shoulder with the other hand to feel the shoulder rotation.) Turn the hand 'out' slowly and 'in' again making sure that you move the shoulder cuff but NO STRESS.... Then shift to the other side and do the other arm and shoulder a few times.   Essentially tou will not feel any changes .. but the body knows what to do.. ALLOW it - to do it..

7)    Now push ONE shoulder at a time into the floor comfortably.. for a few seconds.. feel the pull back across to the other side hip.  Repeat a few times and relax then do the other side..  

GENTLY is the key to this 20 minutes RELAXATION of your NECK and WHOLE spine/ adjusting ONE nerve at a time.. Until you lengthen the spins to where you only need a one inch book/pillow.. The BODY will readjust it SELF..    Do this and you will save more money on chiros ..

Price 850 please send it to me.. Pretending I am the doctor on 5th Ave. .. A price well worth having paid for.. This is the true value of my sharing his instructions with you.  Haha

THE IDEAL is sleeping position would be on 1/8 of your side.. by pulling up the leg on the bed into more fetal position by 3 inches and the top leg being more straight.. thus moving your body off the shoulder and collarbone..


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I read the blog on trehalose when it was first published but I had not idea that it would apply to this situation.  Maybe I should read it again.

I read the part where neurodegenerative diseases was mentioned and thought that if trehalose helped clean up cellular parts damaged in construction, it would probably help those damaged by trauma as well...

Some of the damage may also be to the myelin, which is described as the insulation around the nerve fiber, and I recently learned that iodine and selenium are necessary for healthy myelin.  Of course, this information was presented in a one-size-fits-all presentation, but I can find sources that are good for me!


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I THINK WITH --- TREHALOSE we NEED to distinguish it form TREHALOSE COMPLEX by Dr D..    

Maybe we could call it TC and know what we mean.. because as I indicated in another thread one can buy the trehalose as a sugar 'substitute' and still do less harm than by using sugar.  

If one just googles Trehalose- one gets the 'trehalose sugar' but does NOT get the more expensive additional items contained in the TC from by Dr D and one would not be able to get the same 'scrubbing' action ... as far as I figure..  

I like Trehalose Complex as a supplement IN (SUGARY) powder form (nice)(finally no capsules!!!)
recommended dose -1 Teaspoon with grapefruit, lemon or lime, as suggested by DR D.


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I got it, Joe.  Maybe I should look into it for my gut lining damage.
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I have been taking Trehalose Complex since January and have experienced the same ear clogging sensation. I was so worried about it- thought it was due to nutritional yeast (excito-toxin? histamines?) which I stopped.

The clogging has subsided but still comes and goes. I was just beginning to suspect TC and hoped it was a good sign.

Thank you, ABJoe for updating this thread today- I just so happened to see it!
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Has anyone experienced any UNalarming, good "sensations" from taking TC? It seems as if there is the possibility that the alarming "benefits" are taking the stage and possibly the exciting benefits are getting less attention. I certainly would like to hear about them though. Of course, we know that some things take months and years to correct. It is a pity that patience doesn't come in pills!


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I got it, Joe.  Maybe I should look into it for my gut lining damage.

I'm sure it wouldn't hurt...

There are lots of things that help the gut lining.  I would make sure I was getting lots of ghee, I really like Intrinsa, and I know you are taking lots of probiotics.  


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My cranio-sacral therapist explains to me that the cranial plates are in constant movement.

I don't doubt this, but I'm sure it isn't to the same extent I have experienced it.  The back of the top of my head has crowned probably 1/4 of an inch in the last 2 or 3 years...  When the major movement was happening, it was a major effort to walk around, much less try to get anything done.


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Has anyone experienced any UNalarming, good "sensations" from taking TC?

I don't get that alarmed by any symptoms anymore...  I note them and attempt to determine if they are indicating something beneficial or detrimental and act accordingly...

I also can't pin any specific symptoms on the addition of Trehalose - more just a little increase the nerve tingling in the head/spine and a little decrease in appetite...


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I've loved Trehalose since the first time I tried it.  It feels very clean in my throat and stomach.  I definitely experience more vitality when I take it and my eyesight seems clearer.  Also my mind is more clear too.

A couple of things seems like cleansing processes or 'healing crises' -- I get occasional bumps that arise on a shoulder or wrist or back;  after a few days, the bump dries up, crusts over and falls off.  These are the size of a sesame seed and I don't have those otherwise.  I just think that my body is dumping some of the cellular stuff that the Trehalose is clearing out.

One other thing is weird and maybe relates to ABJoe's "increase the nerve tingling in the head/spine".  With me, it's not head and spine, but tops of my feet and around under the feet across the arches.  Also a little bit on the front of my shins.  A definite activation of some kind on those nerve endings.  I'm just watching and waiting to see how it pans out.  

I did check it out with my doctor who said he didn't think it was signaling any illness.  So, I'm assuming the Trehalose is doing its' work.



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TC is interesting in the way it works.. seems to work.. since I have no prof other then my say so based on maybe that is what it is..

My tongue has cleared itself of white stuff; first time in my life..

I feel lighter inside.. hard to describe..

I tried it today ..instead of breakfast or nothing to eat (dieting in a specific ways so don't go there) I tried a spoon of trehalose complex on blueberries.. First I just ate the TC then a few about 10 blueberries and HUNGER is gone..

Throat seems clear, no drip, thought that my eyeballs feel better not the sight YET so I can tell..

I have Neuropathy the real term is poli.. meaning all over, nerve pain or nerve damage/pain.. tingling is too much said.. but as of late the ankles up to my knees really seem to FEEL cold in the evening, having me go so far as putting on socks (which I NEVER wear) and needing to warm up.  I would like to think it is showing awakening of some nerve cells.  On my feet, the spots that I have been treating with other methods (ondamed.net) they seem to have normal feelings now, but I would say I was 98% better from treating them.. awakening of nerves has its drawback.. but feels right..

as for the  cranial movements my exercise list above is so easy to do.. try it.. in my case my neck needs a little towel under it or the muscles get weak.. from a whiplash.. and my head does not have the strength to stay right side up so I bunch the towel on either side giving those muscle a rest from holding up my head all day and at night being all crunched sleeping on my side..

THE IDEAL is sleeping on 1/8 of your side.. by pulling up the leg on the bed into more fetal position by 3 inches and the top leg being more straight.. thus moving your body off the shoulder and collarbone..    

    
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Back to the cranial...

Any updates on your experience?

I think it OMT/cranial is amazing tool. I want to learn a bit about that 'body talk' as well.

Looking into osteopathic college as a long term goal.


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I LOVE THIS THREAD!!  Thanks all for posting.  

So..from the overall conversation... I take it, we all get worse before we get better once we start on heavy compliance?  
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So..from the overall conversation... I take it, we all get worse before we get better once we start on heavy compliance?  

I hesitate to say that we get worse before we get better.  

In my opinion, we become more aware of pain that either we ignored or was masked by overloaded nerve centers.  Most of the symptoms I have had during the healing process are pain I had earlier, it is that now that I have a low avoid lectin diet, that the old areas seem to be doing additional healing.

The only set of symptoms that seem to be new are those related to the cranial healing / reshaping that is in progress.  I assume that this is due to my cranium not developing "normally" (mine developed a flat top on the back half of my head) after a fall at about age 7 due to nerve damage, high avoid diet or a combination of these or additional reasons...  It may be that I just don't remember how bad it hurt at the time of the fall, or that since the pressures are all changing in the head, that these symptoms are similar to someone having a traumatic cranial incident / concussion, etc...


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Back to the cranial...

Any updates on your experience?

The cranium is still adding curve both side-to-side and front to back on the back half of the top of my head.  I am still having some nausea and dizziness, but the intensity is less, so that most of the time it is only after some exertion and usually passes in about 10 to 15 seconds.  I still have ringing in the ears and the frequency and intensity varies widely.  I did have 2 days, apart from each other in the last month where I had almost no ringing for the whole day, though.  Something that hasn't happened in probably 10 or more years.  I still have intense TMJ, neck and upper back pain, but I keep stretching and moving so these areas don't fixate, etc.  If the TMJ gets out of place from nerve induced muscle spasms, I get an intense headache - so I watch this closely.  The TMJ is healing as well, as I have a much smoother glide now than I did for many years.  There used to be much noise in my ears when I chewed from the "gravel" in the TMJ joint.

It is progress - however slow.  I would rather not have this move too fast, as these symptoms are intense enough most of the time.


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Thanks for the update ABJoe.

Just wondering if you take any supplements or focus on foods that support the nervous system...


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