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Stormy
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And thank you from me . . .  

Lots of good info!


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You are very welcome!  Now you have a weekend project.


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I do have a question for you, is the bees wax important? and is it good for the skin?


“Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It’s perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we’ve learned something from yesterday.”

John Wayne's last words
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Samy,
The beeswax is going to hold the cream together, otherwise you will just have oils and it will be runny.  

Beeswax works well in cosmetic products because of the wax esthers that exist in both beeswax and human skin. These compounds help to bind and emulsify ointments and lotions. Beeswax is a hydrating ingredient that increases your skins essential moisture, it is safe to use and commonly found in skin care products to help retain the skins natural moisture and relieve itch from sensitive skin.

More info on beeswax
In folk medicine, bees wax ear candles are used for ear wax removal. They are believed to be able to heal ear infection and improve hearing by removing the wax inside the ear. Originating from many countries such as China, Czechoslovakia, Mexico and Italy, this ancient art is known as ear candling.

The skin also benefits from honey too.  That's another lesson.


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do you use a nano zinc oxide sunscreen? eh


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Frosty, I have tried the Thyme-to-Wash cleanser and the yogurt-lime-honey cleanser, both are wonderful! (yogurt-lime-honey was tasty too )

I couldn't find my bees wax last night (I keep some around 'cuz you just never know when you are going to want to make a batik) so I just used the coconut oil and walnut oil and they were wonderful.

If you lived in Durango I'd be a client!


“Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It’s perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we’ve learned something from yesterday.”

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The yoghurt cleanser sounds gorgeous. How does it feel on your skin? Does it rinse off cleanly?


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I massaged it in for about two minutes, it rinsed off beautifully and it left my skin feeling very soft, healthy and moisturized. I used some wonderful local raw honey that I got from the farmers market, plain organic yogurt and organic lime juice, yum.


“Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It’s perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we’ve learned something from yesterday.”

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Thanks, I'm going to try it! Raw honey sounds perfect. Very antimicrobial.


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eh,

I know where you are going with this.  Nano, micronized or micro fine zinc oxide is very controversial today.  I have read so much literature on this and have my own opinions based on what I have read.  I personally don't mind using a nano zinc oxide.  The only company that I know of that carries a non nano zinc is Kabana.  They have sunscreens without it and are completely green.


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I've been using nano and micronised zinc oxide for years too (although only if I'm in the Australian sun for extended periods as I have fair sensitive skin).

The trouble is that nano and micronised are not the same thing and it is difficult - not to mention absolutely impossible - to even get some companies to admit they are using nano zinc oxide (like Olay).

Interestingly, Paula's Choice have got back to me (promptly too) to say that their policy is to  use only micronised TiO2 and ZnO not nano. So that's good news. You can add PC to your list! I guess they are waiting on the European Union research results on the safety of the nano ingredients sunscreens.

The Australian Cancer Council products however are loaded up with nano (not micronised) ZnO.

Like you, I'm actually not that worried about nano ZnO at this time. TiO2 is the one to watch. The question of how far it penetrates the skin (3-5 corneocytes so far...that's OK) has still not been properly ascertained especially considering how toxic TiO2 is and whether it may penetrate impaired skin barriers.


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Rash guards are great to avoid needing sunscreen!  They can be hot though.  
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what's a rash guard?


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The only kind of rash guard I have heard of is for surfing.  I can't imagine wearing one here in AZ in the summer where it easily gets to 115-120 fahrenheit.  Yes that would be hot.

eh,

You are right with most sunscreens you just don't know if it is nano or micronized.  So, in my opinion it is best if you don't know to assume that it is nano.  To me, nano zinc is far better than none.

Thanks, I will add PC to my list... he he he my small list, hopefully it grows.   From what I understand, Badger also claims to only use micronized zinc oxide.


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I think I saw Badger for the first time last week. Is that the incredibly cutesy, old fashioned artwork (Edwardian looking) and ironic packaging of Badgers engaged in all sorts of soothing activities like yoga etc? I think it'll go cult here - the Badger stand was surrounded by teenage girls  (um, and moi  ).


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That would be them.  I love their organic lip balms!  

I make soaps, lotions bars, body butters and soy candles, but haven't mastered lip balms yet.  I haven't tried making lip balms yet, but it is on my list.

I will try their sunscreen and see what I think.  If it is half as good as their lip balm I will be thrilled.

http://www.badgerbalm.com/default.aspx


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Ok, Frosty. Report back to us on the sunscreen please! Their lip balms looked incredibly pure judging from the ingredient list - but are they really that good? I use Dr Hauschka lip balm. It's good stuff as my lips crack all the time in dry conditions, but I'm looking for something cheaper.


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This is what is in the Badger SPF 30 sunscreen: Active Ingredient: Micronized Zinc Oxide 20.5%
Other Ingredients: *Extra Virgin Olive Oil, *Golden Yellow Beeswax, *Jojoba Oil, *Cocoa Butter, *Wild African Shea Butter, CO2 Extract of *Seabuckthorn Berry, and Essential Oils of *Lavender, Moroccan Blue Tansy, *Ylang Ylang, Lime & *Sweet Orange.


sounds pretty good to me, but it is 16.00 for 2.9 oz

check this out too: http://www.safecosmetics.org/article.php?list=type&type=32


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Thanks samy! That's a truly decent amount of ZnO! Most physical sunscreens contain much less than that. The rest of the ingredients sound good too.


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Rash guards are "in" and available at many clothing stores, both online and brick and mortar stores.  One key for comfort is to buy a size much larger than your normal size so that the rash guard is not tight fitting.  

http://www.articlesbase.com/me.....d-shirts-658940.html

In Australia, you'll see all manner of child in rash guards plus a wide brim hat.  It is very common in the USA too at water parks and the like.  Check the stores at the water parks, they will have rash guards for sale.  
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Samy,

If you are buying this for daily use on your face and body it will last you a couple of weeks, but if you are buying this for daily use on your face, it will last you months.


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i didnt know badger did a sunscreen... i might start using a sunscreen if there is one made by them. i have the badger sleep, bali and baby balms, i am a sucker for pots of pure and essential oils- the bali balm is especially aromatic! the baby balm is pure enough for me to use as a night cream. i hesitate to try any of their other products on my face though - nothing against badger - i have experienced facial swelling and redness from other products that claimed to be for sensitive skin, even the ingredients were pure sounding enough, but some essential oils are reactive.. for example extract of *Seabuckthorn Berry has good reports from what i quickly searched, but i would have to patch test first    
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I'm the same, honeybee. Even Jurlique makes me break out. But those Badger pots are so irresistible looking...

Thanks Vicki. I've never heard the term Rashguards. We call them something else. My husband wears one.
I thought you were referring  to some sort of space age face visor for bouncing sunrays back into space away from one's delicate face That's what I need!


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I went to Durango today and found some of the Badger sunscreen but it is only SPF 15, they did not have the 30. I will have to remember to put more on mid-day if I'm out all day. It smells really good and I will give a report after I try some.


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Is it for faces?  Or is it body sunscreen?  Some say face and body.  Please let us know what you think.

eh, I love their lip balm it really does the trick for me.


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