On a lark today, I decided to experience what it's like to take the blood type test, so I opened up one of the tests I have here at home, and I put myself through it, just for fun.

I was long ago told by my mother (she told me with absolute, atomic certainty) that I was a blood type "O" positive, so I've always felt a little robbed that I never got to experience the actual BTD testing ritual for myself.

So, I sat down and did it to myself and, shock of shocks, the blood I applied to the "anti-A" circle started to spot up and clump right before my eyes as I stirred it!  The "B" pool didn't clump, the "D" pool clumped a little, and the "control" pool didn't clump at all.

I was so disturbed and horrified by this, that I ran down the hall, broke open a second test, and re-administered the test a second time, just for verification.  And, lo and behold, I was an "A-positive" yet again.

So, apparently, I now have to change my avatar status here on the boards.  Also, after consulting the Genotype Diet book, it's seriously looking like I am now a "GT4 Teacher".  I can hear the words of Francisco d'Anconia ringing in my ears as we speak:

Contradictions do not exist... Whenever you think you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises.  You will find that one of them is wrong.

I was always troubled by the fact that, physically, I never fit the G1 Hunter profile, that I was muscular and broad like a G4 Explorer, yet a bit chubby like a G2 Gatherer.  That's a three-way contradiction, for "definitely" being a blood type "O".

And that was the faulty premise that was wrong... and yet I operated on it without questioning it, because my mother told me I was an "O" with such absolute certainty.

My only remaining concern is whether or not I'm really a non-secretor, because I can't remember if they asked me, when I submitted my saliva sample two years ago, what my blood type was.  If I stated that I'm an "O", would they only have been looking for the presence of "O" antigen in my saliva?  Or would they have been looking for the presence of ANY BT antigen in my saliva?

If they were only looking for "O", then I guess I'm going to have to re-take the secretor status saliva test, aren't I...

Also, how do I find out if I'm of the "A-1" variety, or the "A-2" variety?

Also, also, I guess if I'm really an A nonnie, that means that I absorb almost NO CALCIUM and that my blood is as thick and clotty as a glacial flow.

Oh wow.

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My only remaining concern is whether or not I'm really a non-secretor, because I can't remember if they asked me, when I submitted my saliva sample two years ago, what my blood type was.  If I stated that I'm an "O", would they only have been looking for the presence of "O" antigen in my saliva?  Or would they have been looking for the presence of ANY BT antigen in my saliva?

Given the circumstances it might be a good idea to get the secretor/ non secretor test redone just to be sure. I got my type (O-) done re blood donation and have a sister the same type so I can be sure of that fact. Doing the test again, as an A, would resolve any concerns you have. Good luck.

Well, I wanna get an indication from the folks at NAP for sure before I redo the test... but I do take your point... Anything is possible now, it seems.

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Well, I wanna get an indication from the folks at NAP for sure before I redo the test... but I do take your point... Anything is possible now, it seems.

In your position I would stick with basics. Maybe a test for type (A) and secretor/ non secretor status. I distrust personal tests a little as they are open to personal interpretation. An objective lab will be able to provide definitive results that you can take as a baseline. Uncertainty does not work for you.

Oh crikey!  You must be just reeling...to actually find out that you are the almost opposite of what you thought you were ...would be almost unbelievable!

But just think of how much better you can make yourself feel by having your correct diet finally applied.  There is only one way you can go now and that is the improvement direction!  

I'm happy for you  

Well,..what do you know about that? An "A" all along..

Wow, that is big news!  

Similar thing happened to me, but I did not have to wait as long to find out my real type.  My Dad was O+ on his records, and on my baby card from the hospital it clearly stated that my Mom was O+ also.  So when ER first came out in the mid 90s I was on the O diet for the better part of a year.  Wasn't until having dinner at my brother's and a discussion about blood type...and him telling me he was an A+, which he knew from being a regular blood donor, that I decided to have mine checked at the hospital.  Sure enough, A+.  

of course I first called my folks on the phone right there at the dinner table to find out who our real parents were!   The notes on my baby card were in error, and of course knowing now what we know about the A personality...yeah, might as well have just had a pic of my mom in the book *lol*.  

I am so glad that you found this out, Ron.  Your instincts were talking to you when you decided to play with the typing kit, and you listened.  It's a whole new world!  And if you end up being a teacher too, we'll get you started in the genotype section!  (although I thought you said somewhere else that you are thinking explorer, so you might not be sure yet)

Welcome to A-dom!

If you can GIVE Blood to a blood bank or red cross they well tell you what BT you are for SURE.
When my ND gave me the in office test like you have she was wrong in telling me I was an O when in reality I an an AB+
many of my health problems reversed themselves once I was on the correct diet   

Those type test kits from the NAP are extremely accurate. I tested an A+ and when I went to my primary md, I can get free blood work through my job health insurance and I asked them to type me again..Sure enough, I was an A+...Went to Dr. D's clinic....A+..

I wonder if you need to re test the secretor status because of the type change??

Ron,

That may explain the variety of problems you've had with the O diet and O supps. So sorry that it took so long to find out. The most important thing is that now you have a good place to start from!

Looking forward to your improving health and glad that you have the fortitude to work through it! Agree in suspecting that you will have to redo the secretor test. The A1/A2 is a lab test you can arrange for.

Lloyd

Holy cow Ron...(no more for you.  It is now all for your ice bear )  What a shock that must have been.  I am with Rodney and shoulderblade though, on getting your blood typed with the proper testing experts.   The blood banks are free and you may be able to get other subtypes done through the ones in the U.S.  Here in Canada they don't.  At least, that is what I was told at the blood donation bank.

As Gumby says...your instincts were trying to tell you something.  Could be why you have been having some reservations about BTD/GTD in the past.

No matter...
WEEEEE STIIIIIILLLLLL LOOOOOOOOVVVVVVEEE YYYYOOOOOOUUUUUUU. (and yes, I was shouting that. )

((((((Biiiiiigggg Huuuuuuggggssss))))))

Debra   

Wow..that's quite a surprise!

Wow!  However... call me cynical but I personally think that perhaps 10-20% of people think they are a blood type which they are not... My blood has been typed 4 times as I recall and always comes up the same so I think I am safe in my B assumption.  

And yes, do the secretor test again. If they tested for the presence of all blood type antigens in the saliva sample, I doubt they would ask what your blood type was to begin with when submitting the sample... just my 2 logical cents...

Well I'll be..

ooo yesss go for a *cross-blood-test* done just before Op's so this is the mostly surest you can do.
But you are also that sweet as an A-icebear  

Ice Bear Ron:  it will be interesting to hear how changing your diet affects you.  Keep us all posted.

I give blood, so I’m certain I’m B-.   When my son was born, I asked and was told he was B+.  I just assumed they gave me the correct information.   I should tell him to go give blood.

I give blood also and I am an A. Now can the blood bank tell me if I am an A1 or A2? Twister, you work there, do you know? Will it matter on the diet in the long run?...Aani

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I give blood also and I am an A. Now can the blood bank tell me if I am an A1 or A2? Twister, you work there, do you know? Will it matter on the diet in the long run?...Aani

Makes no difference if you are following the GenoType diet. If you are are following the Blood Type diet the changes are very slight. See Live Right for Your Type for these adjustments.

This is absolutely amazing!!!!!
I bet you will notice changes right away!!!
I've had mine tested 3 different times & all were O+.
Actually, it was tested twice & I gave blood once & they didn't let me know otherwise about type.
The first time was in HS class. I remember being disappointed to be an O. Then before I got pregnant, I wanted to know if I
had German measles before. So the dr. had a pregnancy blood test taken which also did the type, which came out O again.(Only $20 for 7 things-times have changed!)

[I am still frustrated by the medical establishment not asking if you want a partner's test. My husband is AB & my kids were jaundiced, not usually a horrible thing, but a traumatic experience as I never heard of it & the kid was put in what looked like an incubator. Even then, I saw what a sensitive child he was & didn't want all that trauma. Then it messed up the start of nursing. OK, we know there are cases where the mom has 'cheated' on her husband & may not want a blood test for him, but that could be circumvented by asking the woman only if she wants her partner tested. I would have loved to have known my husband had royal blood. #1 son had B, which was a surprise(almost royalty)anyway. Knowing up front about his type AND what newborn jaundice is, would have helped me after a long-average labor. Anyway, we hope he will get his PhD next year!! Yeah, Dr."T"--great name for a rapper! ]

Icebear, I am excited to see what will happen in your life next as far as health is concerned! It has to get better!!!
S S & L,
Mrs "T"    O+

What blood types did you say your parents are?

Debra

Congratulations dear Ice Bear Ron!     Now you can really get down to business, and you should be a lot happier with the results of your food selections.  

wow, this really sheds light on your issues when you said you were about to give up!!! No wonder!THis changes everything!

Thanks, everybody... It has totally changed my outlook on everything now.  I'm still reeling from it, to be frank.

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What blood types did you say your parents are?

Debra

As far as my parents go, my mother is (now, supposedly) an "O", and my father is (now, supposedly) an "A".  

But I know for sure that my sister is an "O" positive because I tested her myself.  And if my father is an "A", then he must be a heterozygous "A":  an "AO".

I wonder sometimes if AO's differ from AA's, in terms of their physiology and temperament.  

The only thing that remains for me to know now, is whether or not I can still be a non-secretor... since, when Great Smokey Labs sent back my results, they already had "Type O" on them.  So, clearly, I must've indicated beforehand what my blood type was.  And, if they were only testing for the presence of "O" antigen in my saliva, then there might've actually been "A" antigen there, and I'm a regular secretor.

(I personally doubt that, though, because I've always had all these problems with allergies and oversensitivity.)

The only thing I will say, is that I will probably miss eating red meat.  I really do think it's what stopped my diarrhea.  

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That may explain the variety of problems you've had with the O diet and O supps. So sorry that it took so long to find out. The most important thing is that now you have a good place to start from!

Well, it could've been worse... I could've thought I'm an "A" when I was really an "O", and have been taking "A" supplements such as chondroitin, which contains the "A" antigen!

I have a feeling that, when I take Deflect A with chondroitin, I'm going to have a whole other experience!

I'm with those who posted above. Get your blood tested by professionals so that you know for sure.

I really almost died on an all-avoid diet without knowing it.

There is no question about my blood type and I find most people don't know theirs.  

Ron,

Much success with your new diet...  I'm usfre it will be quite an adjustment, but your health should get better because of the change.

I'm positive I'm a B.  Virginia Blood Services and Red Cross both tested me as such.

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I wonder sometimes if AO's differ from AA's, in terms of their physiology and temperament.

Me too.

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The only thing that remains for me to know now, is whether or not I can still be a non-secretor... since, when Great Smokey Labs sent back my results, they already had "Type O" on them.  So, clearly, I must've indicated beforehand what my blood type was.  And, if they were only testing for the presence of "O" antigen in my saliva, then there might've actually been "A" antigen there, and I'm a regular secretor.

It hasn't been long since I did the secretor test, and I can confirm that they do ask for your blood type.  Probably saves them a lot of trouble: if you indicate type A, they only have to look for A antigens, instead of looking for A, B, and H antigens in every sample.

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I give blood also and I am an A. Now can the blood bank tell me if I am an A1 or A2? Twister, you work there, do you know? Will it matter on the diet in the long run?...Aani

Aani, if you decide to do the SWAMI down the line, A1/A2 could potentially make some small differences even though you do GTD now.

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I give blood also and I am an A. Now can the blood bank tell me if I am an A1 or A2? Twister, you work there, do you know? Will it matter on the diet in the long run?...Aani

I've given blood and they never told me my type..
I used to work in a hospital and they told me my type was B+. It was even on my ID badge..Ya really gotta wonder about some of these hospitals..

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I used to work in a hospital and they told me my type was B+. It was even on my ID badge..Ya really gotta wonder about some of these hospitals..

That's incredibly horrifying.  

How many deaths have secretly resulted from this kind of mistyping?

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Much success with your new diet...  I'm sure it will be quite an adjustment, but your health should get better because of the change.

Thanks, Joe.  I think so, too.  

I went out just last night and bought some glucosamine and chondroitin, as well as some oregon grape to kill off bacterial overgrowth in my bowels, and already I'm feeling very good.

I just put in an order for Deflect A, so that should be arriving within the next week, too.  And once I can finalize what my genotype is, I'll probably be sending off for the genotype supplements, too.

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It hasn't been long since I did the secretor test, and I can confirm that they do ask for your blood type.  Probably saves them a lot of trouble: if you indicate type A, they only have to look for A antigens, instead of looking for A, B, and H antigens in every sample.

Drive,

I've already emailed Great Smokey Labs and asked them.  Let's see what they say.

Ron...when I first did my secretor test through Francine she said that it was imperative that I give my blood type as the results could turn out wrong.

So glad that you are feeling better already.

Debra

P.S.  If you are an A-nonnie...remember sugar is still your poison.

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Ron...when I first did my secretor test through Francine she said that it was imperative that I give my blood type as the results could turn out wrong.

You see?  I had a feeling this might be the case... Thank you for letting me know.

Also, who is "Francine"?

(By the way, I had both my parents secretor tested, and they both came back as secretors... However, I'm not sure if they both took the BT test.

...Actually, now that I think about it, since they both came back as secretors, that means that their BT antigens were detectable, so I think that means they correctly knew their blood types anyways.)

Francine is the person who used to distribute NAP through a Quebec, Canada site.  From my understanding she doesn't do it anymore.  

Debra

you mean francoise oulette?

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you mean francoise oulette?

Oops...yes.

Debra

Finding out you have a diffent blood type than what one thought, sure takes a person for a loop.

  When I was in highschool I got my blood tested in Biology class, unfortunalty another student told me that I was blood type A.  I didn't really start eating for type A untill 7 years ago, experimenting with lots of grains and vegetables and almost no meat.  

Within the span of 5 months I hade gone from the very best health in my entire life to barely being able to function for two hours out of the day.  In depsperation I did a colon cleanse which was my life saver at the time, I have never again experienced such a night and day change from a cleanse.  I stoped experimenting at this time, two years later I found out that I am O, both from a medical lab and from when I had a live blood analysis done. and the rest is history
  Well almost

Ron, that's fantastic news!  As I read your first post all I could think about was several months ago when you were so discouraged you quit the forums for a while.  No wonder!  Will you do something for us?  Will you take a "before" picture and an "after" picture?  Like will you post a "Ron on the O diet" picture, and 3 months from now post a "Ron on the A diet" picture?  I bet you're going to experience some real nice changes over the next few months.  You may not look like an ice bear anymore after you follow the right diet!  

Ron...I second the motion on the pictures.

medavida...where did you have your blood analysis done?

Debra

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Will you take a "before" picture and an "after" picture?  Like will you post a "Ron on the O diet" picture, and 3 months from now post a "Ron on the A diet" picture?  I bet you're going to experience some real nice changes over the next few months.  You may not look like an ice bear anymore after you follow the right diet!

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Ron...I second the motion on the pictures.

I third that motion!

Can't you just feel the looooovvvvve.

Debra

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Ron, that's fantastic news!  As I read your first post all I could think about was several months ago when you were so discouraged you quit the forums for a while.  No wonder!  Will you do something for us?  Will you take a "before" picture and an "after" picture?  Like will you post a "Ron on the O diet" picture, and 3 months from now post a "Ron on the A diet" picture?  I bet you're going to experience some real nice changes over the next few months.  You may not look like an ice bear anymore after you follow the right diet!  

Okay, I'll do that.  

But, for the record, I never was morbidly obese or anything... probably because, growing up, my father essentially kept me on the same exact diet he felt best on, which was largely the "A" diet, in hindsight.

The only thing he did eat was a lot of wheat and dairy on pizzas and what, but he hated red meat with a passion, and wasn't much for dairy at all.

Tomatoes and wheat, however, were staples in our house, as he is very Spanish-Italian, albeit a mostly vegetarian type.

Ribbit,
I was thinking the same thing about Ron a few months back and his leaving the boards for a while out of frustration.  I hope he finally gets some results!  Congrats on finding out the truth!

debra+

  I got my liveblood analysis done in Surrey BC Canada, A husband and wife team, This is their web site  http://www.qwest4health.ca/.  I also did a biofeedback with them.  
They also follow the BTD however I don't know if they have caught onto the GTD yet.

  When I had the live blood done it was the first time anyone could even begin to tell me what was wrong with me, I previousely had several test done by the high tech medical labs we have here, and all my tests came out fine, of couse I knew that I wasn's fine.  And now that I understand how the different blood types function a few more peices of the puzzle are fitting into place .

I know I have a few more pieces to go and a little more self dicipline and I should fully recover.

Sorry IceBear Ron didn't mean to hijac you tread.

Good Lord, Ron, OMG an' all that. Holy cow. Makes me want to test myself with the extra kit I have.
I agree with the before and after shots. Or at least do a list for yourself of current complaints, large and small, and some weeks later go down the list and record the changes. And I bet there'll be changes you weren't looking for as well. That's what's happened to me and other people I know. Happy surprises.
Gotta go, best of luck, AND glad you came back and ended up testing yourself. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, yeah, and I recall the secretor test saying that you had to put down your blood type or they couldn't do it correctly. So you'll have to do another one, most likely, but that all-important secretor status knowledge is going to help you a ton!!
Let us know!

I'm shocked Ron, but relieved at the same time. You'll be in a new part of the same jungle, so go explore and come back with new findings! Dont leave anything to chance and assumption.

Waiting eagerly to hear more from you  !

Yes, I am eager to find out if I have to take the secretor test again...

As is usually the case with me, I will probably serve as some exemplar of worst-case scenario in future cautions to new arrivals to BTD.

Always, always, always, verify your blood type results with an actual test BEFORE you start the diet and/or take your secretor test.  Don't trust A-N-Y-O-N-E to know what your blood type is... not even your own cherished, absolutely certain, mother!

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Always, always, always, verify your blood type results with an actual test BEFORE you start the diet and/or take your secretor test.  Don't trust A-N-Y-O-N-E to know what your blood type is... not even your own cherished, absolutely certain, mother!

wow!! Ron.......yeah what a shocker. I'll tell ya, this thread makes me want to check mine. Tho I think that w/ all the surgeries I've had, mine is prob right. In the end, as you say, to be sure, is the key.
No doubt, you will start feeling so much better now that you're eating for the right b/t. I'm so happy for you. Funny how doing things on a whim pay off at times.
{{{HUGS}}}

italy,

Since your secretor test results came back positive, then I'm willing to bet that's because it only detected the presence of type O antigen in your saliva.

I don't think it would've given you a positive result if you were any other blood type but A.

And, yes, in just the day or two that I started changing things and taking the chondroitin and other supplements for A and the Teacher type, I'm already feeling noticeably better.

Look at that...even your bear looks happier.

Debra

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italy,Since your secretor test results came back positive, then I'm willing to bet that's because it only detected the presence of type O antigen in your saliva.
I don't think it would've given you a positive result if you were any other blood type but A.
And, yes, in just the day or two that I started changing things and taking the chondroitin and other supplements for A and the Teacher type, I'm already feeling noticeably better.

I'll take your word for what you said about my secretor status       still all over my head sorry.
So glad to hear you are feeling better. Must be quite a relief for you!  

italy,

I know you say you'll take my word for it, but let me try to explain it a bit clearer:

To be a secretor means that, whatever your blood type is, it exists in the form of like little hairs growing off your cells... just like, say, dog hair grows on dogs.

Well, most breeds of dog shed their hair, right?  But a small number of breeds don't, right?

Well, in the same way, most people's cells shed their antigen off into the surrounding body fluids, but a small percentage don't.  

And, so, whatever blood type hairs are growing off your cells, if you shed them off into your fluids -- such as your saliva -- then that means your body grows that antigen in the first place, right?

So if it's detectable in your saliva, that means you grow it from your cells in the first place, so that means that, whatever that detectable blood type antigen is, it's being produced in you, period.

If you couldn't detect it in your body fluids, such as your saliva, then you could still wonder whether it's possibly there but you just don't shed it.  BUT, since you shed it into your saliva (and we know that because your lab results confirmed that it was present in your saliva sample that you sent off in the past), then you definitely make it in the first place, and so it's your blood type antigen.

Capisce?  

Wow, Ron.  BIG doings in Icebear Central!  I'm glad you went on your "lark" and took the test, and then confirmed it by running the test again.  That is a huge shock, no doubt, yet knowledge is power.  It will probably be amazing, results-wise, when you shift your diet to the right one for your real type.  And I wouldn't worry too much about the fact that you've been on the wrong diet for a while, because all the D'Adamo diets are pure, nutrient-dense, whole foods diets, full of life and free of chemicals, etc.  While of course a customized diet for your type is ideal and profoundly health bestowing, you were still worlds ahead of those on the SAD (Standard American Diet).  I just spent a long weekend immersed in what we students of cultural anthropology would call a "field study", embedded with my family, who are either on the SAD or are on some extreme version of it, because I simply can't believe that the way they eat is even standard, but anyway, you were worlds and worlds above where many people are, dietwise in America.  You were eating, like I said, PURE, whole, chi-infused, healthy foods.  And now that you know your type, things are going to get even SO much better, for you, Ron.  I'm really happy for you!

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...the "D" pool clumped a little

This probably means that you have a "Weak D", meaning that you are Rh positive, but only slightly so.  Interesting.

...Okay, off you go to get some fish oil, duuude.  Congrats again on learning your true type and keep us posting on all the positive changes and transformations that start happening, health-wise, because you know they are a'comin'!

The horizon looks bright!



Teacher usurps secretor/non-secretor, but it'd still be interesting to see if you are indeed a secretor? Woah!

Thanks for sharing!  I feel we used to question new people's supposed blood types a lot....and I think that's a good position to maintain.

p.s.  Ron, and all, remember how hard it was to get 3 ml of saliva into that 5 ml tube?  Well, if you said you didn't know your blood type, they'd need 15 ml of saliva instead!  They save your trouble, by requiring your blood type.  They only check for the type you list, so if your blood type is listed wrong, then your secretor type is still unknown.  

p.s.  For Type AB saliva test, do they just pick one or do they look fro both in the sample?  That'd be interesting to know!  If you are an AB, can you secrete one without secreting the other one?  I heard a theory that levels of A and levels of B changes in the blood....sometimes more B and sometimes more A.  

Everyone who is a secretor secretes H (O) antigens. I don't know what the sensitivity is of the method being used by GSL, but the anti H lectin is used to detect H antigens. A₂ will secrete more H antigens than any of the other ABO types except O.

When I was a kid, my blood was tested several times because both my parents were positive and I was O neg.  My ex is an AB+ and both my kids were jaundiced as babies and had to be tested.  Not only did we have the +/- incompatibility, be also had ABO incompatibility which my Dr. actually said sometimes offsets one another.  In any case, they both had to stay in the hospital for an extra day or so under the billie lights.  When I brought the younger one home, I remember being told to put him in front of a sunny window!

Ron, it's a good thing that you found out.  Hopefully it will the the thing that makes everything click and you'll feel a lot better!
Jane

Ron, thanks for taking the time to explain what I didn't understand. And may I just say.........what a great explanation!!!   

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p.s.  For Type AB saliva test, do they just pick one or do they look fro both in the sample?  That'd be interesting to know!  If you are an AB, can you secrete one without secreting the other one?  I heard a theory that levels of A and levels of B changes in the blood....sometimes more B and sometimes more A.

I would think both anti A and anti B are used for the neutralization technique. In an AABB method, anti A, anti B, and the anti H lectin Ulex europeus(sp) are used. Saliva is incubated with the antiserums and then type, A, B and O cells are used to detect agglutination. A lack of agglutination means the antibody has been neutralized by the presence of ABH antigens in the saliva.

So an O secretor would have these results, inhibition with anti H, but no inhibition with anti A and anti B. An A secretor would show inhibition with anti A and anti H but not anti B. Type B secretors will show inhibition with anti B and anti H but not anti A. An AB secretor will show inhibition with all three. Agglutination will occur in all three antiserums if one is a non-secretor,therefore ABO group cannot be determined. Saliva testing for ABH secretor status is another way to determine ABO group, but it is only valid if one is a secretor.

Always great to do "best two out of three" tests right?  

Ron you'd make an awesome testimonial for Dr. D if he did a infomercial!  

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Ron you'd make an awesome testimonial for Dr. D if he did a infomercial!  

as would Rodney.
My sister in law was doing BTD for a while, then stopped. Turns out she thought she was AB and she's A. I encouraged her to do the secretor test since there are so many changes between status.

Rodney? I must know Rodney's story..is there a thread?   Do tell....
We'll add your sis in law to Dr. D's guest list..

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Rodney? I must know Rodney's story..is there a thread?   Do tell....

Rodney thought he was an O, turned out he's an AB. (tho I thought all this time, he thought he was an A before)  ........this O info is in post #7 of this thread. As w/ Ron, it made a huge dif for him, as you can imagine.

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Rodney thought he was an O, turned out he's an AB. (tho I thought all this time, he thought he was an A before)  ........this O info is in post #7 of this thread. As w/ Ron, it made a huge dif for him, as you can imagine.

Wow! that is awesome! Rodney and Ron Dr. D's two main testimonials!!

We're all testimonials right?!!!  

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We're all testimonials right?!!!  

true!!  

Here's Rodney's testimonial...........he thought he was a B before and eating as such........ me thinks he needs some gingko     Me too, I forgot to post the link

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-storybd/m-1172334449/

Also, there is ABNoWay which we haven't heard from in some time(at least for him as he posted very often-now he disappeared!)
Mrs "T"   O+  

he s everywhere!

posting away in the GTD site as is his wife!!
very nice!

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While of course a customized diet for your type is ideal and profoundly health bestowing, you were still worlds ahead of those on the SAD (Standard American Diet).  I just spent a long weekend immersed in what we students of cultural anthropology would call a "field study", embedded with my family, who are either on the SAD or are on some extreme version of it, because I simply can't believe that the way they eat is even standard, but anyway, you were worlds and worlds above where many people are, dietwise in America.

Thanks, PT.  I love that acronym, "SAD".   How apt.  Hahahahaha

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Ron you'd make an awesome testimonial for Dr. D if he did a infomercial!  

Yeah; probably.  Completely unwittingly, I made myself a case study.

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Ron, thanks for taking the time to explain what I didn't understand. And may I just say.........what a great explanation!!!  

You're welcome, and I'm glad it helped.  But you have to realize that it's in my blood:  I'm a Teacher.

  

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Thanks, everybody... It has totally changed my outlook on everything now.  I'm still reeling from it, to be frank.


The only thing that remains for me to know now, is whether or not I can still be a non-secretor... since, when Great Smokey Labs sent back my results, they already had "Type O" on them.  So, clearly, I must've indicated beforehand what my blood type was.  And, if they were only testing for the presence of "O" antigen in my saliva, then there might've actually been "A" antigen there, and I'm a regular secretor.

(I personally doubt that, though, because I've always had all these problems with allergies and oversensitivity.)

The only thing I will say, is that I will probably miss eating red meat.  I really do think it's what stopped my diarrhea.  

Funny you say that, about having allergies and oversensitivity.  I have both and am a secretor.  BTW: I love being a Teacher, and if you need anything, please feel free to PM me.  Yea!  Ron's one of us!

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As is usually the case with me, I will probably serve as some exemplar of worst-case scenario in future cautions to new arrivals to BTD.

Who's signature said, "If you can't be a good example, you must be a horrible warning"? (or something to that effect)

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true!!  
Here's Rodney's testimonial...........he thought he was a B before and eating as such........ me thinks he needs some gingko     Me too, I forgot to post the link
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-storybd/m-1172334449/

OMG! That was a great testimonial..Poor Rodney! I can't tolerate cayenne either..I would have been dying from it too!
Thanks IB!

Ron, wouldn't it be interesting if you turn out to be a Warrior? The saga continues...  

WOW~

Is the moral to this story  "never trust your mother?"    

Welcome to type A world and I hope you're soon feeling your best-est~

Well, actually, I just talked to my mother today... She says that it was one of my doctors who told me that I was an "O", after I had a blood test as a teenager.

I don't blame her... She's just relaying information which she may or may not have heard correctly.

well dearest Ron, what is the learning effect out of this,....never believe peoples speeches when it comes to the form of * I believe...or I think....* but get to know by testing..... and even here it may come out wrong as Rodney's testimonial is the best proof  
endeffect: after a certain time of no success on a diet...go for changements and listen to your bellyfeelings....body tells his own stories....in its own but handsome manner

Isa,

You're right...

I think the self test from NAP is the most accurate type-test.

I thought I was a B until I did it. I was kind of surprised myself. Good thing I didn't know about the blood type diet then..Being a hippy, I was following vegetarian...anyway..

to the icebear  

Hmmmm...so it was a doctor who originally told your mom that you were Type O, huh?  And then not one but two NAP tests said A?  WEIRD.  You know what I'd do, just to be SURE at this point?  I would go to a blood bank and donate blood.  Trust me, they don't want to get your type wrong, because it is their patootie on the line if they send the wrong type of blood for a patient.  They are extremely accurate with their testing.

I would just do that to be sure at this point.  BYOJ, btw, as in, bring your own juice of a compliant variety.  Otherwise, they may try to pressure you into drinking OJ and/or eating a WHEAT cookie.

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I would just do that to be sure at this point.  BYOJ, btw, as in, bring your own juice of a compliant variety.  Otherwise, they may try to pressure you into drinking OJ and/or eating a WHEAT cookie.

Sounds like sneaking behind enemy lines for a lab test. Good idea to get the Blood Bank or some professional laboratory to confirm the type though. You need good basic knowledge to get anywhere.

lab-tests are wildely faaaar away from pré-clinical studies like Vega and other testings..... yesss dearles I'm not that thumb that I appear  


p.s
only et some probs coz my old pc.won't accept to be treatened only by a lefthanded leo ....ough...sigh....and forgets sometimes some sylables....I apologize in advance....(Peppy need your figure to help me out here...cotau...cotau ...(felt on my knees)
claaarooo for you all I'm capable to do anything even with only one hand (arm)....haaa...

stefina,

Apparently I'm an "A" Teacher... and I'd been on an O-nonnie diet for just over two whole years.

That meant lots of red meat.  I've been dealing with aches and pains in my sternum, neck, and entire left arm for just over a year now, although the diet did stop the irritable bowel I'd had for 21 years, which was a huge benefit.

For the last three days I've been following the Teacher diet and taking the suggested supplements, and I'm already feeling a huge difference, and my abdomen has already started to go down noticeably.

Since I found out today that it's entirely possible that, since I sent off my secretor test two years ago as an "O", and that's the antigen they test for, that I might actually be an "A" secretor after all... So I'm taking the "non" off my avatar until I know for sure.

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For the last three days I've been following the Teacher diet and taking the suggested supplements, and I'm already feeling a huge difference, and my abdomen has already started to go down noticeably..

Ron, so glad to hear you are already feeling better. I can only imagine how awful you must have been feeling on the O diet.   I know how awful I feel if I eat avoids let's say for a week.    Anymore I can't even imagine 2 years of that!! So bless your heart for finding out the solution and not giving up.   HUGS

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For the last three days I've been following the Teacher diet and taking the suggested supplements, and I'm already feeling a huge difference...

  As my six-year-old nephew would say:  "Awesome!"

The most important thing is that it's been four days now and, without red meat, but on the Teacher diet, I've had no IBS symptoms and my morning breath was virtually nil when I woke up this morning.

To me, that's huge.  I could never figure out why my bowels were always such a problem.  When I thought I was a Hunter, I figured it was an inflammatory problem to do with my "being" an O non-secretor, because I couldn't tolerate wheat or most carbs, as I thought they would cause yeast overgrowth and intestinal lining inflammation.

...So I was totally thinking in terms of a hyper-sensitive, hyper-intolerant inflammation issue, rather than the complete opposite:  a bacterial over-permissiveness issue!  I thought my system was too intolerant, not too tolerant!

I never thought there would be a cancer risk in me and, truth be told, I don't have any whorls on my fingerprints, so I suppose that helps a bit.  But it's nice to know after 38 years of unending discomfort and seemingly inexplicable health problems, that a reason existed for all of it.

Dollars to donuts..that you are a Warrior...Ok, lets see if my prediction comes true..

I had pretty bad IBS when I was eating red meat in my twenties. The only thing that stopped it was wheat bran..a Warrior beneficial! How cool is that?!!

Dear Ron, I'm so glad that being a Teacher is working out for you and your body! I think that it is such a huge testament to the BTD/GTD that in 4 DAYS you are already feeling the benefits!

Now that you've spent so much time on the "wrong" foods, perhaps it will be easier for you to avoid them in the long run.  

Yea! for finding the 'right' path.

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Dollars to donuts..that you are a Warrior...Ok, lets see if my prediction comes true..

Actually, as my torso is longer than my legs, the top halves of my legs are longer than the bottoms, and my ring fingers are longer on both hands, the exhaustive chart in the back of the book says that it doesn't matter if I'm a secretor or non-secretor, because it's "Teacher" for both.

So I'm a Teacher, no matter what...

Yes, but do you have a big, long head? I measured the top halves of my legs longer too.. Are you tall? I thought I was a Teacher going by my measurments also..Dr. C thought she was a Teacher..remember? Dr. D said no way, I was a Warrior.

The diets are pretty similar but Teachers get to live in cheese land ...

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.....Teachers get to live in cheese land ...

Hunter........jealous!!!         oh I miss cheese.  

Italy.....do you want to get a bit from my Manchego....

I'm so glad to have back so many cheeses on the Nomad diet!

Ron, this is marvelous news!  I look forward to more updates on your experience.

Go ahead drive, rub it in..lol... I can have a few cheeses...I think paneer and farmer..that's it..I can however have a few black dot cheeses..that I've been eating..some..ok, a little more than some..
I want to move to cheese land...

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Italy.....do you want to get a bit from my Manchego....

yes please and thank you thweeeety for sharing.  

Well Mayflowers, my sinuses do get a bit stuffy after these new cheeses, if that makes you feel better.   But hey, you can eat WHEAT again!

After a few years, you may not miss dairy. I am so unused to eating it, I don't want to bother, except for butter which I didn't consider dairy for so many years.
I also don't want to deal with the congestion & the other "C" problem which dairy does so well!!

I'm in Illinois & if I have to travel thru Wisconsin, I have to go incognito! Those "Cheeseheads" wouldn't like me!
Neither would the beer & brats crowd for that matter!
Hey, I'm an O. I can eat the dairy cattle later on!

Just being silly,
Mrs "T"  O+  

Sweeeet wheeeeat!  The funny thing is, now that I can eat it again all my cravings are gone.  It's not psychological.  It's physiological.  I like it, but I don't feel  a terrible craving for it anymore.  GTD fixed me.

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That meant lots of red meat.  I've been dealing with aches and pains in my sternum, neck, and entire left arm for just over a year now, although the diet did stop the irritable bowel I'd had for 21 years, which was a huge benefit.

For the last three days I've been following the Teacher diet and taking the suggested supplements, and I'm already feeling a huge difference, and my abdomen has already started to go down noticeably.

This is such wonderful news, Ron! I'm so glad things are working out for you!

Ron, are you doing the secretor test again?

This thread reminds me of what my friends always ask me..

"what if it turns out you're a different blood type than you think, and it's all been in your head?"



I don't even doubt my O'ness.    One lick of wheat, or a few days without meat & I'm swine feed.

Accidental,

I think I might... it would set my mind at ease if I'm a secretor.  

But it would never explain my bizarre sensitivities that are so unlike my father, who is also an A-Teacher.

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Accidental,

I think I might... it would set my mind at ease if I'm a secretor.  

But it would never explain my bizarre sensitivities that are so unlike my father, who is also an A-Teacher.

Ron, I feel (again just my take) that knowing your secretor status along with your GT is essential. I feel that within the 6 general GT groups there still will be sub groups based on secretor status and whatever else which might be researched & discovered in years to come. And being an A, you also have the A1 and A2-ness as well. I'm observing some interesting character/diet preferences between an A Explorer, a B Explorer, and an O Explorer. Same with an AB Nomad and a B Nomand.

Some of us have been plain fortunate to have just one beam of ray light up our lives. Some of us, I guess, will need more than one ray.

Whatever you discover, please do share with us!

I have a zillion sensitivities. Dr. D, said I was just a Warrior with sensitivities (I asked him on the phone if I could possibly be an Explorer)

Ribbit, do you experience fluid retention the next day after eating wheat? My rings get tight and I feel puffy. You've been following it longer than me. I was futzing around with Teacher, Warrior and Explorer diets..before I went to see Dr. D in March.  

I love wheat items .(sigh).I missed it too, but I'm not sure if I can go back to eating it...   I keep forgetting to check my white lines..(SM)

Ooo! I did notice that I used to have the "brain fog" after eating wheat for a couple of days when I stopped it, but now since on the GTD, my fogginess clears up within a 1/2 a day! So I'm making progress!!

Spring, you use the oil with a mirror or just glass?

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Spring, you use the oil with a mirror or just glass?

I used a mirror because it was the handiest. I guess I could have used a window....! Another option is to make a picture with your camera up close. (Had someone mentioned doing this before? Can't remember.) I have a set of prints on my computer that I was looking at last night and comparing to my fingers now. Still amazing! Another funny thing - all of mine are improving really fast except the ring fingers on both hands, but the top sides of the ring fingers are improving faster than the others! Maybe if I live long enough, both my whole hands will recover! I wasn't expecting anything except better fingerprints!  

and that s a sign of gut integrity!!
great job!

Thanks Ms. Spring.   Oh, do you eat wheat?

Thanks, Lola, I'm very happy with my progress!

Mayflowers, I am still not eating wheat. I think I probably could without any problem, but I am enjoying the many other grains so much, I haven't tried it yet. I did eat a slice of tomato a couple of weeks ago without any bad symptoms at all which is a MAJOR improvement!! Before, one bite and it was like a torch stuck to my stomach! -----Besides the aftereffects.   However, I won't be overdoing it with tomatoes. It is just so nice to be able to enjoy them occasionally.

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Ribbit, do you experience fluid retention the next day after eating wheat? My rings get tight and I feel puffy.

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Ooo! I did notice that I used to have the "brain fog" after eating wheat for a couple of days when I stopped it, but now since on the GTD, my fogginess clears up within a 1/2 a day! So I'm making progress!!

No!  No negative symptoms! It's the coolest thing since dairy-free ice cream!

I'd stay wheat-free for a few months and then try again, Mayflours.