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Lola
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did you call the lab and ask the same question?
they will give you a more precise answer and even get a redo, for free?
no harm done in asking, right?


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did you call the lab and ask the same question?
they will give you a more precise answer and even get a redo, for free?
no harm done in asking, right?


I guess not.  

I just so tired of having to fight like mad for every little inch in life, when most people just seem to be born on an escalator.

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Ron, I can't believe that this would have affected your results. Those folks know as well as we do that these samples are apt to sit around many hours before they can be processed. I think Dr. D. or someone from the clinic should address this once and for all so people could stop worrying about it!
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Like I said before somewhere... my family's test samples sat around for a few hours, in the hot sun even, before the DHL truck arrived. We got 2 non's and one secretor out of that bunch.

Plus... being a non would explain why you did quite well as a mistaken O. My A non son just loves lamb.

I understand, though, why you might not feel you can trust the results, since everything else has been turned upside down....


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If you have doubts, I suggest confirming measurement with a serotype panel
Southwest Naturopathic Medical Clinic
in Scottsdale, AZ.  480-970-0000

This will confirm your
Blood Type
Rh factor

Tell you Lewis group (determines secretor status)

Also will tell your subtype A1 or A2  
as well as MM, NN, or  MN


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If you have doubts, I suggest confirming measurement with a serotype panel
Southwest Naturopathic Medical Clinic
in Scottsdale, AZ.  480-970-0000



Thanks...

If they'll let me ship it somehow, I'll do it.  But I live in Washington state, so I'm not willing to fly down to do it.
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I just called there and, after going around in circles for awhile with the person who answered the phone, was told that they only do it through a doctor drawing blood and sending it to them.

So now I have to find a rare doctor who is "hip" to it, and have that done.

For anyone else, this would be easy.  But for me?  The universe magically, prankishly, and cruelly rearranges itself so that I, specifically, automatically have the most difficult set of circumstances ever to occur in the entire history of the entire universe.

Since as long as I can remember, whatever I alone reach for, simply by virtue of me reaching for it, turns into a festering pile of goo.  Perhaps you've heard of "The Midas Touch"?  

...Well, I have "The Feces Touch".  Everything I touch, it turns to... well, you get the idea.
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I just called there and, after going around in circles for awhile with the person who answered the phone, was told that they only do it through a doctor drawing blood and sending it to them.

So now I have to find a rare doctor who is "hip" to it, and have that done.

For anyone else, this would be easy.  But for me?  The universe magically, prankishly, and cruelly rearranges itself so that I, specifically, automatically have the most difficult set of circumstances ever to occur in the entire history of the entire universe.

Your are not alone in this Ice Bear. I have been trying to find someone to do this for me as well for several years now. I would like to know which type of A I am and the MN info as well...especially since SWAMI is sooo close to being available to us online.

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does your GT status change if you were a non secretor?
if the answer is no, then simply follow your teacher diamond path, for a couple of weeks......


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only do it through a doctor drawing blood and sending it to them.

So now I have to find a rare doctor who is "hip" to it, and have that done.


I did not use a doctor. I used a nurse.

I waited until my employer had its annual wellness day. They contract with a hospital to test blood for a variety of things (cholesterol, a variety of minerals, ...). She was drawing several tubes of blood. I brought my extra tube for SCNM, handed it to her and asked that since she was drawing blood anyway could she fill an extra tube. She said: sure-no problem. She made some observation about the persevative they used in the tube. I thought it was going to be difficult. But getting the bood drawn ended up being extremely easy!!

If the wellness day had not been close, I would have asked one of the nurses at a blood drive to draw the tube when he/she was drawing the vials they use for testing. I think threatening to not donate would convince most blood centers to draw the extra tube of blood for you.




Biggest hassle was shipping it. I thought I was going to be able to drop it into a fedex drop box-since SCNM had prepaid shipping. But I read fed ex web site and it said medical specimens had to go to a manned facility. This involved driving about an hour each way, but I convinced my employer's mail-room to hand it to the driver when he did his normal pickup and delivery from us. It took a lot more explaining to convince the mail staff to do this for me than to get the nurse to draw blood.  I think if I had not read the fed ex web site and put it in the drop box everything would have been fine.



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I brought my extra tube for SCNM

have you been to Phoenix?


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have you been to Phoenix?


Not for this!

When I phoned SCNM, I ordered a kit. They sent me a package that include the tube for collecting the blood, a block of styrofoam for packaging, a box to hold the tube and the styrofoam, some labels, and a page of directions.

After I sent in the kit, they sent me back the results and a list of foods that I should eat and not eat. Food list was based on Dadamo's recommendation for blood type and secretor status.


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For anyone else, this would be easy.  But for me?  The universe magically, prankishly, and cruelly rearranges itself so that I, specifically, automatically have the most difficult set of circumstances ever to occur in the entire history of the entire universe.

Since as long as I can remember, whatever I alone reach for, simply by virtue of me reaching for it, turns into a festering pile of goo.  Perhaps you've heard of "The Midas Touch"?  

...Well, I have "The Feces Touch".  Everything I touch, it turns to... well, you get the idea.


Ron,
This is not the positive affirmations that Stefina was talking about...     

I realize that it seems like the goo touch sometimes, but a positive mental attitude does help.  It is up to you to maintain it, though.  Once you start feeling better, it will be easier, but it still takes practice.   

I also think the white on the tongue is Candida based.  I am dealing with the same (or very similar) thing...  

Several things that really helps this fight are:
1) to keep the mouth impeccably clean.  Make sure to floss well, brush  and rinse twice a day.  My dental hygienist said the rinse should be 1 c. hot (to touch) water with 1/2 t. salt, take a mouthful, rinse until lukewarm in mouth - forcing through teeth, spit and continue until the cup was empty...  It seems to be helping, although the pain was intense the first couple of sessions...
2)  Reduce carb intake to very little.  Make the body burn fat for energy so the Candida has less access to sugars.
3)  Keep positive, YOU WILL WIN!  You didn't get sick overnight, so you won't get well overnight.  It is a process, but you are finding major clues and should get well much faster than you got sick...


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right C, got it!

I received that list you mention also, but went directly to them, last may while in the Phoenix conference!
thanks for the ride Kate!!


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For anyone else, this would be easy.  But for me?  The universe magically, prankishly, and cruelly rearranges itself so that I, specifically, automatically have the most difficult set of circumstances ever to occur in the entire history of the entire universe.

Since as long as I can remember, whatever I alone reach for, simply by virtue of me reaching for it, turns into a festering pile of goo.  Perhaps you've heard of "The Midas Touch"?  

...Well, I have "The Feces Touch".  Everything I touch, it turns to... well, you get the idea.


I'm sorry you are feeling down...  It is easy to look around and think that others have it easy, but if you go deeper you are likely to find that we each have our problems, challenges, and tragedies.  You just happen to be most familiar with your own and also probably less practiced at seeing your own gifts.

Although you may not always be able to choose what happens to you, you always do choose your reaction and attitude towards it.  This takes practice (as do all skills) but it can be done.  Refuse to waste any more time on negative experience by choosing to make every experience worthwhile.

I am a strong believer that your outlook and attitude has a major influence over what comes to you in life.  There are lots of great resources on this subject, such as The Secret and Ask and it is Given, The Power of Intention, and You Can Heal Your Life.  These are just a few.  


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Sitting around probably didn't change it to nonnie. Don't worry. It's good to know so call the testing company and get some reassurance.
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I guess not.  

I just so tired of having to fight like mad for every little inch in life, when most people just seem to be born on an escalator.


Perhaps you  could ask the Red Cross to perform Lewis antigen typing. They may be willing to do this for a fee of course.



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Ron, I had lots of setbacks in certain times of my life. Ages 10-20 were bad on average with some hopeful times. Then there were various things after that. But the fact that you found BTD will make those escalator riders losers if they don't find it.  Of course, the most important thing is that you find the Lord.
He certainly has helped us in this area of our lives.
You also have such a great support team on this site.
We're here to cheer you on!!
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Thanks, guys.  And the only thing I can say in my own defense is that my lousy attitude took a long, long time to develop.  

It's a long story for sympathetic ears only, to be heard by invitation only, I'm afraid.
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Ah...so finally your secretor status is known, yipee! Would it change your genotype in any way?

Looking forward to reading how you plan to achieve radiant health  !



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Ron,
I ve met you in person and consider you a very mature insightful guy and a pleasure to be with.
So just be yourself!


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Lola is such a cutie-bear.  
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I just called there and, after going around in circles for awhile with the person who answered the phone, was told that they only do it through a doctor drawing blood and sending it to them.

So now I have to find a rare doctor who is "hip" to it, and have that done.


I had this done by my ND. Easy-peasy. There must be ND's in Washington. I suggest calling around.


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Actually, I just got a callback from one of the laboratory personnel at Great Smokies Laboratory (it's now called "Genova Diagnostics"), and the lab person told me that the saliva sample is good for a minimum of 7 days, and that refrigeration effectively doubles that lifespan.  

So, apparently, I'm really and truly an A-nonnie.

Finally, I asked him whether or not I would automatically turn out as an A-nonnie if I turned out as an O-nonnie before.  He said that, to answer that question, a doctor would have to forward that question to their "medical education" department, who could answer it "hands down".  

He did stress, however, that they don't field questions like that from laypeople such as myself... only doctors.  So, if we want an answer to that question, it will have to be asked on our behalf, by a doctor.
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An A-nonnie! Yes, that would explain why you did as well as you did on the O-nonnie diet. The difference in the diets between A nonnies and A secretors is the largest of all the blood groups.

I'm glad for you that you finally know the truth and can go forward in your quest for great health. Whew!


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