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Stefina
Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 1:31pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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AB, that's odd. Are you generally a skinny person all over? Maybe you just need to gain some weight, properly, through good food..? How about a pic?  Unless of course, you're famous and don't want us to know..    then cool.   Hormones could be low also (testosterone)

Ron, will be interesting to see if the blood type has anything to do with it.. does it I wonder?


It's not really odd: 2 somatypes don't build muscle like athletes: endo and ecto

please don't think something is wrong with you and mess with your system.  I can't lift a pencil without bulking up.

I'd (in the past) give anything to be one of the other two. But I learned to accept myself.  
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Yes, all I gain is lots of pain and frustration...  I worked with a trainer for a while...  I gained strength, but the muscle mass stayed about the same...  Still skinny arms.  I've just accepted that I will have skinny arms, as long as I have the strength, I don't care about bulk.

ABJoe, I have the same trouble.  Skinny arms, skinny legs, skinny neck, skinny torso!  I have hit the weights on and off over the years, with never any improvement except tone.  I've got a theory on that, and maybe it applies to you too.  Ectomorph somatype aside, our bodies focus on building and repairing what is most important, namely our internal organs, before allocating resources toward the building of skeletal muscle.  Right now, I'm not even bothering with weight training, because I know my guts still have a lot of healing to do.  Maybe once my egg sensitivity is completely gone, I'll give it a try again.

ps: I don't even have much strength, so it could be worse for you!
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Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 4:32pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I've read that it takes at least 5 years to bulk up to any degree if you're body building..That's without taking illegal hormones..They use a lot of weight gaining powders, creatinine, L-arginine..things like that.  
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Also for me a lanky ectomorph, body building and lght weights made me gain  just a quarter of pound of muscles in two years. At least I see since then my small biceps which my nephews can laugh at !
Thw stairs in my new home are instead more useful for my legs.
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AB, that's odd. Are you generally a skinny person all over? Maybe you just need to gain some weight, properly, through good food..? How about a pic?  Unless of course, you're famous and don't want us to know..    then cool.   Hormones could be low also (testosterone)

I'm not super skinny, just have very long, thin arms...  My weight is about 165lbs. on a 5'11" frame.  I was very slender as a child, so much so that Dad remarked once that I was the only kid he knew that could hide behind a telephone pole...

I think that we would have found any major problem with the kinesiology testing...  We've healed most of the internal organs and are basicly just taking maintenance doses of supplements to keep the organs healthy while detoxing the myriad of garbage that I was exposed to as a teen/young adult.  

I'm waiting until the detox has stopped before getting into any other projects...


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I'm waiting until the detox has stopped before getting into any other projects...

Good idea!
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That's part of the problem (and one reason I'm questioning my genotype).

Ribbit, I think there may be some merit to reconsidering your GT.  You said you were close between Warrior and Teacher.  I wonder if bacterial overgrowth has anything to do with acne and/or spinal pain and inflammation (that could be largely due to carrying around the kids, like IB said!).
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So Ribbit, how do you fare on a lot of cheese?
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IB, I'm starting to think you are right about that chiro......after reading all these posts....
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It's not really odd: 2 somatypes don't build muscle like athletes: endo and ecto
please don't think something is wrong with you and mess with your system.  I can't lift a pencil without bulking up.
I'd (in the past) give anything to be one of the other two. But I learned to accept myself.  


I was thinking about your response and it brought to my mind the Doshas.  Vata, Pitta, Kapha...Vata's are naturally thin and lanky. My ex told me that most times people are a combo of two, that is I am a Pitta/Kapha (hence the weight problems)(Fire Monkey)Interesting how the Asian astrology and ayurvedic healing kind of synchronize in a lot of ways. I'm not trained in Ayurvedic medicine but if one is a Vata dosha, then they would have trouble bulking up.  

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IB, I'm starting to think you are right about that chiro......after reading all these posts....


jayneeo, it makes me really sad to see these kinds of chiros in practice, but it's like every other profession..........good and bad in all. it's just disheartening for me because I know a good chiro is really helpful and when you explicitly trust one and find out they're just a hoolagin, well.............



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I was thinking about your response and it brought to my mind the Doshas.  Vata, Pitta, Kapha...Vatta's are naturally thin and lanky. My ex told me that most times people are a combo of two, that is I am a Pitta/Kapha (hence the weight problems)(Fire Monkey)Interesting how the Asian astrology and ayurvedic healing kind of synchronize in a lot of ways. I'm not trained in Ayurvedic medicine but if one is a Vata dosha, then they would have trouble bulking up.  



you know what? I just read about those. too funny.  Yes, your husband is right. At least all of the stuff that I've read states that most people are a combo!

Just for a day I'd like to be a tall ecto and wear awesome fashions.  
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I just realized that I'd been taking all kinds of anti-inflammatory substances for almost a year now... and me with an overtolerant immune system as a Teacher, already.

I've had this pain just behind my lower right rib, just at the very top of the right side of my abdomen.  Let's hope it's not liver cancer.

Also, I've had this white patch on the side of my tongue that occasionally feels sore and bleeds.  Let's hope that's not cancer, either.

From now on, always check your blood type first... especially if you think you know it already.  The only exception is if the Red Cross takes your blood and types you.
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ok, you got 3 to 6 months to reset your genes!!



generate only positive thoughts, ok?

start practicing your alternate nostril breathing and so on.....
lifestyle, remember?


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generate only positive thoughts, ok?

I'm not so good at that.    

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start practicing your alternate nostril breathing and so on.....
lifestyle, remember?
  
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go for your daily meditation....works wonderful...


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I have to say that I had an early breakfast today of plain oatmeal with honey, and a cup of iced black coffee.

VERY good, that.  And it didn't give me ANY stomach upset at all!  In fact, I felt great after eating it.

Now, as far as that "easygoing" personality of a Teacher, well, I suppose I should be working on that.  Truth be told, I think the reason I don't have that is because I didn't get to grow up the way I wanted to, in one town all my life, so I could've laid down deep roots and developed a reassured, easygoing personality.
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Now, as far as that "easygoing" personality of a Teacher, well, I suppose I should be working on that.  Truth be told, I think the reason I don't have that is because I didn't get to grow up the way I wanted to, in one town all my life, so I could've laid down deep roots and developed a reassured, easygoing personality.


I say you are a Warrior.. I have spoken. (kidding but if I'm right, I'm putting up a shingle)  

The diets are very similar...


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Also, I've had this white patch on the side of my tongue that occasionally feels sore and bleeds.  Let's hope that's not cancer, either.



Sounds like Candida.....


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I have to say that I had an early breakfast today of plain oatmeal with honey, and a cup of iced black coffee.

VERY good, that.  And it didn't give me ANY stomach upset at all!  In fact, I felt great after eating it.

Now, as far as that "easygoing" personality of a Teacher, well, I suppose I should be working on that.  Truth be told, I think the reason I don't have that is because I didn't get to grow up the way I wanted to, in one town all my life, so I could've laid down deep roots and developed a reassured, easygoing personality.



take it easy and join in here for positive thoughts if you aren't good at it! We'll keep 'em coming.

Write affirmations daily!  I'm your teacher boy... write your sentences 100 times.  "Strength and Support will come to me"

I'll be grading you!  That might seem too simple?  

Think about those who don't get the simplicity of the BTD knowledge. They think eliminating tomatoes or dairy from their diet is too simple of a cure or too hard, but it works!

EVERYDAY!


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that pain could be gallbladder...an A eating like an O...well, could get some complaints from the gallbladder! You can check the threads on that...there are many, and they are helpful....it can be controlled quite easily.
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Yeah, the pain is right in the vicinity of the gallbladder.  I definitely need to do a gallbladder cleanse, to see if I can pass any of the stones.
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Also, I've had this white patch on the side of my tongue that occasionally feels sore and bleeds.  Let's hope that's not cancer, either.


If you can scrape off the white stuff it is likely candida.  If not, get it checked out because it could be leukoplakia.


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Leukoplakia?  What's that???

I notice I only get it when I've been taking what are probably too many supplements... because my gums also get raw and sore.
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Ron it could just be thrush. Here's a link:




http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/diseases/facts/oralthrush.htm
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Leukoplakia?  What's that???

I notice I only get it when I've been taking what are probably too many supplements... because my gums also get raw and sore.


Leukoplakia is metaplastic/dysplastic changes to the epithelium usually due to tobacco or alcohol use or chronic irritation.  It should be checked out because it is considered pre-cancerous.

What you have is likely candida (aka thrush) which is usually white on a red base and can be scraped off.  

It could also be lichen planus, which can affect the oral cavity and may be a reaction to medication or amalgam fillings.  Although I'm not sure lichen planus presents as a white lesion usually.  


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