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Ribbit
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*sigh* But I was dairy-free for 10 years!  Maybe I'm on the wrong GTD.


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Hm.  I have long felt that I should be able to hold an adjustment longer than two or three days, but I've never been able to.  My children are the same way.  If we go more than a week without an adjustment they start complaining about their backs hurting and heads hurting, and when we go again, they're all out of alignment.


Maybe a combination of exercise and chiropractic is in order.  Sometimes when my back or neck is aching, exercise takes care of it. I have to go for an adjustment eventually, but exercise helps me go longer between visits, and diet has made a huge difference too.  Since I've been on GTD I am aching a bit more, but I expect that during this transition, and some of the Nomad foods are more inflammatory to me too (the cheeses for example).  Have you noticed a difference between BTD and GTD in this issue?
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Ribbit,

Perhaps if you've been through a bout of extreme stress at any point and, if you've been on strong antibiotics, you might have a severe overgrowth issue in your bowels that is draining you.  Do you have a distended abdomen or abdominal upset?

Also, perhaps you might be one of those Lewis double negatives.  They have a very hard time of it.

I'm just asking questions here.
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I don't know what a Lewis double negative is.  I don't have any abdominal upsets anymore.  The BTD fixed that!  It's pretty flat considering I've had 3 children!  I'm proud of myself.

Drive, that's what my husband keeps telling me--that if I'd get outside and move around a little more I wouldn't need to go as often.  He may be right, but we live in the middle of the city and there's nothing to do outside except pull weeds out of my flower gardens and get chewed up by mosquitoes and take walks in early mornings before everybody wakes up, which I plan on starting up again when we get back from our road trip next week.

Re: inflammation, I would say I can't tell any difference between the BTD and GTD.  The BTD healed me of all my inflamation.....oh, wait.  I do have to say that with the skin issues I have, all the big bumps go away faster on the GTD.  They don't stay all swollen up for weeks or months like they did on the BTD.  Should I start my own thread?  I feel like I'm hyjacking Ron's thread.  If you want me to start my own I'll do it.  DH says when we get back home I should try the Teacher diet for a couple of weeks just to see.  There's so much "iffy" stuff when it comes to measuring.  Palms up, my index fingers are noticeably longer.  Palms down, index finger is longer on one hand, ring finger longer on the other---a Teacher trait.  Hmmmm.


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a LDN like me, Lewis test comes out (a-b-).....
rare birds!
Le (a-b-) having neither Lewis a nor Lewis b

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dr d
Double Lewis Negative (LDN) blood type, it is typically
common for me to clinical consider LDNs non-secretors, even
though for technical reasons, secretor status can not be
imputed from you Lewis test result. If anything,
metabolically, LDNs are probably super-non secretors from a
phenotype standpoint.


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I asked a chiropractor what the optimum number of adjustments per week would be...ideally, for the average person, and she said 2 or 3 per wk. Everyday would be nice but it wouldn't give your body enough chance to learn to hold the effect.
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Maybe it's me, but I don't see why you should need all those adjustments all the time.

That suggests to me that you're having muscular tension, for some reason, that is pulling your nerve-carrying joints out of whack.
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yeah, some kind of tension. I haven't been for years, but if I did go I'm sure there would be something I needed.
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Quoted from jayneeo
I asked a chiropractor what the optimum number of adjustments per week would be...ideally, for the average person, and she said 2 or 3 per wk. Everyday would be nice but it wouldn't give your body enough chance to learn to hold the effect.


That seems like an awful lot of adjustments on a regular basis.  

I know when I first started going to the chiropractor I went three times a week. It tapered off over a period of several months and now I only need minor adjusting every 6-8 weeks.

Ron, I'm glad to see that you are feeling so much better!Feeling good is huge, at least it was for me it was.  




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That's part of the problem (and one reason I'm questioning my genotype).  I don't gain muscle mass.  My arms and legs are very skinny.  I used to do some weight lifting and I never got any stronger.  I never gained any muscle.  Even after being on the Warrior diet, I did lose a few inches around my waist and around my hips, which I'm delighted about, but I don't seem to be able to get any stronger.  Now I do have to say that I have a lot more endurance.  I can plug along at a quick walking pace, up and down hills, for much longer than I used to be able to do (even on the BTD) without getting tired.  And (one improvement from being on the BTD), I can reach down and put my knuckles on the floor.  Nearly my palms, but not quite.  When I was in elementary and middle school (which is when I felt the worst in life), we would stretch in gym class and I was doing well to get my fingertips past my knees.  My legs hurt so much and the muscles were so tight that I could hardly touch my knees.  Anyway, I'd like to see myself be able to form a little muscle.  If I could do that maybe I could hold an adjustment.  My childhood chiropractor gave me exercises to do to strengthen my back and neck muscles, but they never did any good.  They never improved anything.


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Quoted from Ribbit
That's part of the problem (and one reason I'm questioning my genotype).  I don't gain muscle mass.  My arms and legs are very skinny.  


Hey Ribbit, I usually bulk up easily..but I don't know if that's a Warrior indication..Dr. D looks thin in his pic..did you see it he just posted it?

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I bulk up easily right around my middle.  But that flab bulk, not muscle bulk.


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Dr. D looks thin in his pic..


he sure does!
besides, his GT diet has given him a six pack!!
way to go Dr D!!!


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I bulk up easily right around my middle.  But that flab bulk, not muscle bulk.


Ha! I bulk up around the middle as all Warriors.. I looked like a barrel when I was pregnant.

Lola, Dr. D  does have that six pack he spoke of...he just isn't bulked up..that's what I was referring to Ribbit.   Good thing he didn't take the challenge..lol..
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You're making me wonder if I should remeasure myself.  My shoulder still hurts.  I still have tingling in my left pinkie.  I have to go to the chiropractor every single week (and really feel like I need it more often) to get my neck and back adjusted or I get terrible headaches.

I have many toxin problems that are still clearing, but most of the chiropractic problems were reduced or eliminated by eliminating allergies using the NAET technique.  I still have some issue if I am detoxing a great lot at one time, but usually it is when I react to an allergen.


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What?  You were able reduce your chiropractor visits by using NAET?  Hmmmm.  I'll have to look at that section of the budget and see if I can afford to go to NAET treatments.  I may have to save up for a while.


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Wow, thats incredible. To think and eat for an O and then be an A. I do not know how I would feel? I am shocked for you. I am sure you will notice positive changes and will feel better than you ever have. Good luck!
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I bulk up easily right around my middle.  But that flab bulk, not muscle bulk.


Ribbit,

You may be an endomorphic body type. That's more of an indicator of muscle building than geno. FYI

The good thing about endo (what I envy) is that when you gain it's only in the middle and you can hide it with a long shirt until you lose a few.

With meso you gain all over and have to completely adjust the wardrobe.  

Unless you make weight lifting/exercising a top priority you are unlikely to gain muscle. Believe it or not, It is enviable.
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I bulk up easily right around my middle.  But that flab bulk, not muscle bulk.

I build middle flab during heavy detox sessions when it is too much to "move" at once, then slow the detox and move it out.

I also suffer from your other symptom, very skinny arms, although not so much legs...  The strength is there, just not appreciable muscle mass...

Reducing the allergic reactions made the spine much more stable...  I was a three visit a week regular at the chiro until eliminating most of the allergies...  Now I see him about once per quarter year if I get fixated.  

Usually, I can relax and stretch to handle the movement from normal detox...



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Hmm. I'm a Warrior and I have some muscle   If I flex my arm I can see my bicep..(we want to pump you uuup!) Maybe it's because I was athletic growing up.

ABJoe, have you actually tried to build bulk on your arms? I mean through free weights or barbells?
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Ribbit,

You may be an endomorphic body type. That's more of an indicator of muscle building than geno. FYI

The good thing about endo (what I envy) is that when you gain it's only in the middle and you can hide it with a long shirt until you lose a few.

With meso you gain all over and have to completely adjust the wardrobe.  

Unless you make weight lifting/exercising a top priority you are unlikely to gain muscle. Believe it or not, It is enviable.


This is true.  I can hide a lot with a well-colored and well-fitting shirt.  


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Hmm. I'm a Warrior and I have some muscle   If I flex my arm I can see my bicep..(we want to pump you uuup!) Maybe it's because I was athletic growing up.

ABJoe, have you actually tried to build bulk on your arms? I mean through free weights or barbells?


Yes, all I gain is lots of pain and frustration...  I worked with a trainer for a while...  I gained strength, but the muscle mass stayed about the same...  Still skinny arms.  I've just accepted that I will have skinny arms, as long as I have the strength, I don't care about bulk.


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I just ordered a new secretor test, just to see if I'm a nonnie as an A, too.
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AB, that's odd. Are you generally a skinny person all over? Maybe you just need to gain some weight, properly, through good food..? How about a pic?  Unless of course, you're famous and don't want us to know..    then cool.   Hormones could be low also (testosterone)

Ron, will be interesting to see if the blood type has anything to do with it.. does it I wonder?
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Ron, so glad to hear you are feeling better!! Think how great you'll feel in another month or two!! And will be interested in how your secretor status comes out.  

Ribbit, it wouldn't surprise me at all if you're eating for the wrong GT. I only say that because pre BTD, my upper back and neck hurt constantly. Plus I felt like I had a knife in my back by my shoulder blade (ribhead out, always slightly if not greatly  ) I was going to the chiro twice a week. BTD fixed that lickety split. Now I only go once every couple of months or if a ribhead comes out. Also, wanted to mention, lifting kids can pull a ribhead out quickly. (and how do YOU get around that one eh?  ) Last year, I was having pains in my chest and went to the heart guy. Everything checked out fine. He said he sees many young gals w/ kids having this same pain. It's from hauling kids around. I lift my g'kids all the time. Just can't seem to help meself. Went to the chiro......sure enough, ribhead out.               re: being out of adjustment all the time. We used to go to the chiro every week as kids (he said it was a must to keep our spines in line). Not until I was prob in my 30's did I find that to not be true. (my mom and I used to make the same comments as you - about how we were always out..........sometimes it seemed like we were out before we left the office).    Anyway, I had a car accident. Several weeks of 6 or 7 times a week at the chiro's brought no change. My ins co. insisted I get another opinion. Whilst going to this other chiro, I was taking Jamie (as I'd been told she too needed weekly adjustments by the other chiro). The new guy asked me why I was bringing her every wk, I told him, he said I shouldn't. That when you are over adjusted, your spine becomes like the baby pop links (the kind that has a little 'nub' on one end and a hole on the other). The more you pop them in and out of one another, the looser the hole gets until they don't really hold any more. Made sense to me and I stopped the weekly visits and the other milk me and the ins co. chiro as well. I was really upset w/ the old chiro, I really trusted him. We have been better for not going every week, as it turned out. My current chiro says the same thing............come when necessary. I personally feel I need to go at least once every 2 mths.

Curious mentioned that perhaps you might be eating something that causes your back/s to come out. Pre BTD, I would've rolled my eyes at that one, but for me wheat does that trick. My chiro might be rolling his eyes inside .........I've mentioned that to him before......the wheat connection.

jayneeo........JMHO........but I'd run fast away from that chiro. 2-3 times a week is nothing more than a money making scheme. IMHO of course. I've proven that to myself tho unfortunately.  



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