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accidental_chef
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Accidental,

I think I might... it would set my mind at ease if I'm a secretor.  

But it would never explain my bizarre sensitivities that are so unlike my father, who is also an A-Teacher.


Ron, I feel (again just my take) that knowing your secretor status along with your GT is essential. I feel that within the 6 general GT groups there still will be sub groups based on secretor status and whatever else which might be researched & discovered in years to come. And being an A, you also have the A1 and A2-ness as well. I'm observing some interesting character/diet preferences between an A Explorer, a B Explorer, and an O Explorer. Same with an AB Nomad and a B Nomand.

Some of us have been plain fortunate to have just one beam of ray light up our lives. Some of us, I guess, will need more than one ray.

Whatever you discover, please do share with us!



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I have a zillion sensitivities. Dr. D, said I was just a Warrior with sensitivities (I asked him on the phone if I could possibly be an Explorer)

Ribbit, do you experience fluid retention the next day after eating wheat? My rings get tight and I feel puffy. You've been following it longer than me. I was futzing around with Teacher, Warrior and Explorer diets..before I went to see Dr. D in March.  

I love wheat items .(sigh).I missed it too, but I'm not sure if I can go back to eating it...   I keep forgetting to check my white lines..(SM)

Ooo! I did notice that I used to have the "brain fog" after eating wheat for a couple of days when I stopped it, but now since on the GTD, my fogginess clears up within a 1/2 a day! So I'm making progress!!

Spring, you use the oil with a mirror or just glass?
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Spring, you use the oil with a mirror or just glass?


I used a mirror because it was the handiest. I guess I could have used a window....! Another option is to make a picture with your camera up close. (Had someone mentioned doing this before? Can't remember.) I have a set of prints on my computer that I was looking at last night and comparing to my fingers now. Still amazing! Another funny thing - all of mine are improving really fast except the ring fingers on both hands, but the top sides of the ring fingers are improving faster than the others! Maybe if I live long enough, both my whole hands will recover! I wasn't expecting anything except better fingerprints!  
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and that s a sign of gut integrity!!
great job!


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Mayflowers
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Thanks Ms. Spring.   Oh, do you eat wheat?
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Thanks, Lola, I'm very happy with my progress!

Mayflowers, I am still not eating wheat. I think I probably could without any problem, but I am enjoying the many other grains so much, I haven't tried it yet. I did eat a slice of tomato a couple of weeks ago without any bad symptoms at all which is a MAJOR improvement!! Before, one bite and it was like a torch stuck to my stomach! -----Besides the aftereffects.   However, I won't be overdoing it with tomatoes. It is just so nice to be able to enjoy them occasionally.
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Ribbit, do you experience fluid retention the next day after eating wheat? My rings get tight and I feel puffy.

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Ooo! I did notice that I used to have the "brain fog" after eating wheat for a couple of days when I stopped it, but now since on the GTD, my fogginess clears up within a 1/2 a day! So I'm making progress!!


No!  No negative symptoms! It's the coolest thing since dairy-free ice cream!

I'd stay wheat-free for a few months and then try again, Mayflours.


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Mayflours.


very good.....young padawan.
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Hey.  When there's a pun available to me, I usually take it.


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It's been almost a week now on the Teacher diet, and I have to say that I am feeling much, much better.

My mood has stabilized, my thoughts are calmer, my joint aches are noticeably disappearing, and my neck muscles are finally unlocking and there were about two or three days there where one of my neck vertebra would noticeably make a single "crack" sound when I bent my head backward, causing a relaxing tingling sensation to move through me.  

I think I'm starting to get feeling back in the ulnar region of my left hand, after six months to a year of dull numbness there, as well as a constant aching in my left shoulder, upper left arm and interscapular muscles.
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well how about that!!


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Lo-laaaaaaaaa...  

You know, I'm having a lot more energy in the past few days and I find myself wanting to go out and get some sunshine and exercise.

I also tracked down a girl I knew from my lonely, miserable undergraduate days at Duke, and had a long talk with her about making sense of what happened at college, and basically comparing notes.  She's married now, with kids, which is depressing somewhat when compared to me, but she gave me perspective that I never had before.

It's astounding how there is this lonefying dynamic to life, whereby people seem to be actively discouraged from not only developing the ability to really take in and understand what's going on around them, but also to have the language framing skills to organize and communicate those thoughts, so that we can have real connection with those around us, to alleviate all the soul-snuffing alienation, isolation, and loneliness.
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You're making me wonder if I should remeasure myself.  My shoulder still hurts.  I still have tingling in my left pinkie.  I have to go to the chiropractor every single week (and really feel like I need it more often) to get my neck and back adjusted or I get terrible headaches.


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Ribbit,

And you're sure you're an "A"?

Are you typing a lot on a computer?  A laptop?  Are you routinely contorting or putting pressure on your carpal region?
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I have a problem with numbness or tingling in my pinkie fingers, and my chiro cracks my elbow to treat it.  Working at a desk and computer contributed to it.  I believe leaning my elbows on the desk while listening to our instructor (classroom training for a job I had a few years ago) is what brought about my first time with that condition.
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My neck and shoulder get really stiff and sore when I eat dairy. If I don't eat dairy, the soreness goes and neck and shoulders relax.
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Curious,
I have had a neck pain for a few months now, on the right side.  I have also been eating more dairy
a la gatherer plan, like cottage cheese and ricotta.  I wonder if I cut it out for a few weeks if that pain would lessen.....think I may try and see.  
I just visited with a fellow gtd/btder in the area.  We think I am a gatherer.  But both of us like the
original btd foods and did ok on them.  Maybe there's a connection with the new dairy items.....thanks for the idea.  I will explore!
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I have had a neck pain for a few months now, on the right side.  I have also been eating more dairy
a la gatherer plan, like cottage cheese and ricotta.  I wonder if I cut it out for a few weeks if that pain would lessen.....think I may try and see.  
I just visited with a fellow gtd/btder in the area.  We think I am a gatherer.  But both of us like the
original btd foods and did ok on them.  Maybe there's a connection with the new dairy items.....thanks for the idea.  I will explore!

Paulam, it is worth a try. I'd be interested to know whether cutting out dairy makes your pain go away as well.
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Ribbit,

And you're sure you're an "A"?

Are you typing a lot on a computer?  A laptop?  Are you routinely contorting or putting pressure on your carpal region?


I still have the little card with 4 red blotches on it.  Yep, I'm A+.  The question was always GenoType.  I really do straddle the line between Warrior and Teacher.  Let's see.....do I type a lot on the computer?  I routinely contort myself when I hold children.  No, not really.  I had a trampoline accident my jr year of highschool and I think I did a lot more damage to it than I or my chiro realized.  It's my left collar bone and left bicipital tendon.  Sometimes it hurts down my sternum too.  My chiro adjusts my collar bone, bicipital tendon and elbows, wrists, neck, back, you name it.  Sometimes she even adjusts my jaw.


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perhaps better to go for ostheopathy then chiro...

and a bit of medi-tapes just onto those areas  
whithin hours no aching anymore..... I got my own experience on that....works amazingly....


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stefina,

Apparently I'm an "A" Teacher... and I'd been on an O-nonnie diet for just over two whole years.

That meant lots of red meat.  I've been dealing with aches and pains in my sternum, neck, and entire left arm for just over a year now, although the diet did stop the irritable bowel I'd had for 21 years, which was a huge benefit.

For the last three days I've been following the Teacher diet and taking the suggested supplements, and I'm already feeling a huge difference, and my abdomen has already started to go down noticeably.

Since I found out today that it's entirely possible that, since I sent off my secretor test two years ago as an "O", and that's the antigen they test for, that I might actually be an "A" secretor after all... So I'm taking the "non" off my avatar until I know for sure.



I just read this post. I've been thinking about you and your situation. I'm glad you followed your spur of the moment idea to test yourself. I'm sure you've found an accurate answer.

The universe is kind if we listen. It would be just cruel to find out that you were another blood type after this ordeal.  

I would feel better if you donated blood to have a triple check. But do what you can for now.  My husband is an A and I'm pretty sure he is a teacher.  When he eats red meat he gets really bloated.

Keep us posted.

This is really a trip isn't it?  
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I have to go to the chiropractor every single week (and really feel like I need it more often) to get my neck and back adjusted or I get terrible headaches.


Ribbit, that doesn't seem right. Isn't a chiropractor supposed to fix the problem? Your neck keeps going out weekly? Have you tried yoga instead? It's a lot cheaper..

I'd rather see a ND than a chiropractor. I've heard a lot of stories of necks and backs getting fractured over the years.
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perhaps better to go for ostheopathy then chiro...


Yes, definitely consider this!  Osteopathy is a far more wholistic and deep system of medicine than chiropractic.  But be careful, because I think in the US many "osteopaths" are simply MDs and don't work with the structure and energy of the body.


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Hm.  I have long felt that I should be able to hold an adjustment longer than two or three days, but I've never been able to.  My children are the same way.  If we go more than a week without an adjustment they start complaining about their backs hurting and heads hurting, and when we go again, they're all out of alignment.


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... If we go more than a week without an adjustment they start complaining about their backs hurting and heads hurting, and when we go again, they're all out of alignment.

Maybe you are eating something that makes your body go out of alignment. For me it is dairy (as posted above). It might be worthwhile to experiment with the food you eat.

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