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Ron-A-Non
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On a lark today, I decided to experience what it's like to take the blood type test, so I opened up one of the tests I have here at home, and I put myself through it, just for fun.

I was long ago told by my mother (she told me with absolute, atomic certainty) that I was a blood type "O" positive, so I've always felt a little robbed that I never got to experience the actual BTD testing ritual for myself.

So, I sat down and did it to myself and, shock of shocks, the blood I applied to the "anti-A" circle started to spot up and clump right before my eyes as I stirred it!  The "B" pool didn't clump, the "D" pool clumped a little, and the "control" pool didn't clump at all.

I was so disturbed and horrified by this, that I ran down the hall, broke open a second test, and re-administered the test a second time, just for verification.  And, lo and behold, I was an "A-positive" yet again.

So, apparently, I now have to change my avatar status here on the boards.  Also, after consulting the Genotype Diet book, it's seriously looking like I am now a "GT4 Teacher".  I can hear the words of Francisco d'Anconia ringing in my ears as we speak:

Contradictions do not exist... Whenever you think you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises.  You will find that one of them is wrong.


I was always troubled by the fact that, physically, I never fit the G1 Hunter profile, that I was muscular and broad like a G4 Explorer, yet a bit chubby like a G2 Gatherer.  That's a three-way contradiction, for "definitely" being a blood type "O".

And that was the faulty premise that was wrong... and yet I operated on it without questioning it, because my mother told me I was an "O" with such absolute certainty.

My only remaining concern is whether or not I'm really a non-secretor, because I can't remember if they asked me, when I submitted my saliva sample two years ago, what my blood type was.  If I stated that I'm an "O", would they only have been looking for the presence of "O" antigen in my saliva?  Or would they have been looking for the presence of ANY BT antigen in my saliva?

If they were only looking for "O", then I guess I'm going to have to re-take the secretor status saliva test, aren't I...

Also, how do I find out if I'm of the "A-1" variety, or the "A-2" variety?

Also, also, I guess if I'm really an A nonnie, that means that I absorb almost NO CALCIUM and that my blood is as thick and clotty as a glacial flow.

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Oh wow.

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My only remaining concern is whether or not I'm really a non-secretor, because I can't remember if they asked me, when I submitted my saliva sample two years ago, what my blood type was.  If I stated that I'm an "O", would they only have been looking for the presence of "O" antigen in my saliva?  Or would they have been looking for the presence of ANY BT antigen in my saliva?



Given the circumstances it might be a good idea to get the secretor/ non secretor test redone just to be sure. I got my type (O-) done re blood donation and have a sister the same type so I can be sure of that fact. Doing the test again, as an A, would resolve any concerns you have. Good luck.





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Well, I wanna get an indication from the folks at NAP for sure before I redo the test... but I do take your point... Anything is possible now, it seems.
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Well, I wanna get an indication from the folks at NAP for sure before I redo the test... but I do take your point... Anything is possible now, it seems.


In your position I would stick with basics. Maybe a test for type (A) and secretor/ non secretor status. I distrust personal tests a little as they are open to personal interpretation. An objective lab will be able to provide definitive results that you can take as a baseline. Uncertainty does not work for you.





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Oh crikey!  You must be just reeling...to actually find out that you are the almost opposite of what you thought you were ...would be almost unbelievable!

But just think of how much better you can make yourself feel by having your correct diet finally applied.  There is only one way you can go now and that is the improvement direction!  

I'm happy for you  
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Well,..what do you know about that? An "A" all along..
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Wow, that is big news!  

Similar thing happened to me, but I did not have to wait as long to find out my real type.  My Dad was O+ on his records, and on my baby card from the hospital it clearly stated that my Mom was O+ also.  So when ER first came out in the mid 90s I was on the O diet for the better part of a year.  Wasn't until having dinner at my brother's and a discussion about blood type...and him telling me he was an A+, which he knew from being a regular blood donor, that I decided to have mine checked at the hospital.  Sure enough, A+.  

of course I first called my folks on the phone right there at the dinner table to find out who our real parents were!   The notes on my baby card were in error, and of course knowing now what we know about the A personality...yeah, might as well have just had a pic of my mom in the book *lol*.  

I am so glad that you found this out, Ron.  Your instincts were talking to you when you decided to play with the typing kit, and you listened.  It's a whole new world!  And if you end up being a teacher too, we'll get you started in the genotype section!  (although I thought you said somewhere else that you are thinking explorer, so you might not be sure yet)

Welcome to A-dom!


Embracing my A-ness! (Ok, that is waaaay better in print than it is out loud! )

A+Sec Teacher follwing GT3/SWAMI diet
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If you can GIVE Blood to a blood bank or red cross they well tell you what BT you are for SURE.
When my ND gave me the in office test like you have she was wrong in telling me I was an O when in reality I an an AB+
many of my health problems reversed themselves once I was on the correct diet   

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Those type test kits from the NAP are extremely accurate. I tested an A+ and when I went to my primary md, I can get free blood work through my job health insurance and I asked them to type me again..Sure enough, I was an A+...Went to Dr. D's clinic....A+..

I wonder if you need to re test the secretor status because of the type change??
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Ron,

That may explain the variety of problems you've had with the O diet and O supps. So sorry that it took so long to find out. The most important thing is that now you have a good place to start from!

Looking forward to your improving health and glad that you have the fortitude to work through it! Agree in suspecting that you will have to redo the secretor test. The A1/A2 is a lab test you can arrange for.

Lloyd
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Holy cow Ron...(no more for you.  It is now all for your ice bear )  What a shock that must have been.  I am with Rodney and shoulderblade though, on getting your blood typed with the proper testing experts.   The blood banks are free and you may be able to get other subtypes done through the ones in the U.S.  Here in Canada they don't.  At least, that is what I was told at the blood donation bank.

As Gumby says...your instincts were trying to tell you something.  Could be why you have been having some reservations about BTD/GTD in the past.

No matter...
WEEEEE STIIIIIILLLLLL LOOOOOOOOVVVVVVEEE YYYYOOOOOOUUUUUUU. (and yes, I was shouting that. )

((((((Biiiiiigggg Huuuuuuggggssss))))))

Debra   


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Wow..that's quite a surprise!
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Wow!  However... call me cynical but I personally think that perhaps 10-20% of people think they are a blood type which they are not... My blood has been typed 4 times as I recall and always comes up the same so I think I am safe in my B assumption.  

And yes, do the secretor test again. If they tested for the presence of all blood type antigens in the saliva sample, I doubt they would ask what your blood type was to begin with when submitting the sample... just my 2 logical cents...


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Well I'll be..


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ooo yesss go for a *cross-blood-test* done just before Op's so this is the mostly surest you can do.
But you are also that sweet as an A-icebear  


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Ice Bear Ron:  it will be interesting to hear how changing your diet affects you.  Keep us all posted.

I give blood, so Im certain Im B-.   When my son was born, I asked and was told he was B+.  I just assumed they gave me the correct information.   I should tell him to go give blood.


I am B- NON-Sec Explorer; my son is B+ SEC Nomad; my Mother was O+; and my Father was AB-
SWAMI Thanksgiving present 2008
Revised from Arlene B- NonSec to RedLilac on 3/31/06
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I give blood also and I am an A. Now can the blood bank tell me if I am an A1 or A2? Twister, you work there, do you know? Will it matter on the diet in the long run?...Aani


Listen, this is what I think: I think we can't go around measuring our goodness by what we don't do, by what we deny ourselves, what we resist, and who we exclude. I think we've got to measure goodness by what we embrace, what we create, and who we include. Pere Henri (Chocolat)
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I give blood also and I am an A. Now can the blood bank tell me if I am an A1 or A2? Twister, you work there, do you know? Will it matter on the diet in the long run?...Aani


Makes no difference if you are following the GenoType diet. If you are are following the Blood Type diet the changes are very slight. See Live Right for Your Type for these adjustments.


MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.
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This is absolutely amazing!!!!!
I bet you will notice changes right away!!!
I've had mine tested 3 different times & all were O+.
Actually, it was tested twice & I gave blood once & they didn't let me know otherwise about type.
The first time was in HS class. I remember being disappointed to be an O. Then before I got pregnant, I wanted to know if I
had German measles before. So the dr. had a pregnancy blood test taken which also did the type, which came out O again.(Only $20 for 7 things-times have changed!)

[I am still frustrated by the medical establishment not asking if you want a partner's test. My husband is AB & my kids were jaundiced, not usually a horrible thing, but a traumatic experience as I never heard of it & the kid was put in what looked like an incubator. Even then, I saw what a sensitive child he was & didn't want all that trauma. Then it messed up the start of nursing. OK, we know there are cases where the mom has 'cheated' on her husband & may not want a blood test for him, but that could be circumvented by asking the woman only if she wants her partner tested. I would have loved to have known my husband had royal blood. #1 son had B, which was a surprise(almost royalty)anyway. Knowing up front about his type AND what newborn jaundice is, would have helped me after a long-average labor. Anyway, we hope he will get his PhD next year!! Yeah, Dr."T"--great name for a rapper! ]

Icebear, I am excited to see what will happen in your life next as far as health is concerned! It has to get better!!!
S S & L,
Mrs "T"    O+


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What blood types did you say your parents are?

Debra


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Congratulations dear Ice Bear Ron!     Now you can really get down to business, and you should be a lot happier with the results of your food selections.  



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Let me not pass you by in quest
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wow, this really sheds light on your issues when you said you were about to give up!!! No wonder!THis changes everything!
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Thanks, everybody... It has totally changed my outlook on everything now.  I'm still reeling from it, to be frank.

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What blood types did you say your parents are?

Debra


As far as my parents go, my mother is (now, supposedly) an "O", and my father is (now, supposedly) an "A".  

But I know for sure that my sister is an "O" positive because I tested her myself.  And if my father is an "A", then he must be a heterozygous "A":  an "AO".

I wonder sometimes if AO's differ from AA's, in terms of their physiology and temperament.  

The only thing that remains for me to know now, is whether or not I can still be a non-secretor... since, when Great Smokey Labs sent back my results, they already had "Type O" on them.  So, clearly, I must've indicated beforehand what my blood type was.  And, if they were only testing for the presence of "O" antigen in my saliva, then there might've actually been "A" antigen there, and I'm a regular secretor.

(I personally doubt that, though, because I've always had all these problems with allergies and oversensitivity.)

The only thing I will say, is that I will probably miss eating red meat.  I really do think it's what stopped my diarrhea.  

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That may explain the variety of problems you've had with the O diet and O supps. So sorry that it took so long to find out. The most important thing is that now you have a good place to start from!


Well, it could've been worse... I could've thought I'm an "A" when I was really an "O", and have been taking "A" supplements such as chondroitin, which contains the "A" antigen!

I have a feeling that, when I take Deflect A with chondroitin, I'm going to have a whole other experience!
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I'm with those who posted above. Get your blood tested by professionals so that you know for sure.

I really almost died on an all-avoid diet without knowing it.

There is no question about my blood type and I find most people don't know theirs.  
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