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Becky
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A short background first.  I have only been following BTD for about 10 days.  I feel alot better, and have lost 10 pounds already.

I had an appointment with my Doctor today, and asked if he could have the lab run the Lewis test and the MN test.  He said "he has never heard of the Lewis test, and why would I need that?"  So, I whipped out my book ( it follows me everywhere right now) and showed him the section about secreters and nonnies.  His only answer was " you realize that is NOT a medical book, right?"  So, I dropped the conversation, as he was not about to understand, and I have decided to figure these things out on my own.

So far, the best three things I have found are, NO MORE CELEBREX, 10 pounds of weight gone, and my digestive system feels good for a change.
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Becky, I've run into the same problem with my Western medicine doctors. I have an appointment with a Naturopathic doctor next week and hope to get those tests done through her. The downside is that my insurance doesn't cover my visits to her or the tests. But I'm okay with that.


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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great results Becky!

that s what counts.....


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Quoted from Becky
"you realize that is NOT a medical book, right?"


Such egos!!!  


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It may not be a "medical" book, but it has lots and lots of scientific research to support it.


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Thank God, it is NOT a medical book. eh


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thanx to all written words here ......
I am demanding  myselve what would happen if all those who took celebrex would awake and just stop it, take the BTD books and live with them......revolution is guaranted
tell me what is really scientifique in western medicine.....because one of them got the idea to standardize whatsoever...he tries to fix human's life...life can't be fixed, if so it will be fixed to death  

I've been in December to my 2 years check....and this whitecoated sayed to me...*.hey I don't wanna know what you are doing or taking as pills, it is not normal at your age to be that healthy and no problems *     I tried to give him a chance to work with BTD but he wasn't interested .....


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Yes Becky...I have a doctor of the same callibre.  He believes that Dr. D is wrong.   And...as mentined above I am glad that it is NOT a 'medical' book either.  It is a book that leads you to actually living the way life should be lived.

Becky...just in ten days you have accomplished so much.  Imagine what a lifetime will bring.  Try to find yourself a good naturopath...I have one also...not covered either and worth every penny.

Debra

P.S.  I carry my books alot of places too...especially when I go out of town.  


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Thank God, it is NOT a medical book. eh




It's so sad how the term "medical" has been hijacked by at least one generation of total narcissists that have overtaken and almost completely illegitimized the medical industry.  
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And, oh yeah...

(Becky, order a secretor test!)

 
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Hi Becky - what great results you are having!  I won't even get started on the traditional doctors.  I honestly think some are no more than legalized drug pushers.  Never concerned with actually fixing a problem only concerned with masking the symptoms.

And actually thinking nutrition has an impact on one's health?  Heaven forbid!

Sorry, guess I did have a little rant.  

Super congrats to you!


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Quoted from Mitchie
 I won't even get started on the traditional doctors.  I honestly think some are no more than legalized drug pushers.  Never concerned with actually fixing a problem only concerned with masking the symptoms.


I have to agree, drug pushers w/ a license.         I almost fell over the other day when my brother told me the dr at the ER said they needed to find out what was causing his constipation not just fix it for now.      Guess there is some hope still but they are far and few between.
Becky, I have to say, I had a good chuckle when I read the title of your thread. That's pretty much what I think of 99% of them.              Just yest I got my blood test results and mentioned to the gal who helps the dr that I NEEDED to get in to see the endocrinologist since both tests on my adrenals dropped. She was like "huh, everything was fine".  I said 'everything is in range, but it has dropped since the last tests'.      Just aggravating!!  I feel like "what am I paying them for?", as do most of us here, I'm sure



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for most doctors the "book" is a $25.00 prescription that may replace the hundreds of dollars of drugs they prescribe....they're threatened financially where as if they embraced it they would suggest all their patients have their Lewis, MN tests done and reap some financial gain from it and the same time support the patient's decision to follow the diet.

Doctors are brainwashed for the most part


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I agree with the posts above. My doctor is a nice guy, but he was completely baffled when I saw him last year and everything was normal--perfect blood pressure, all bloodwork within normal ranges, and 50 pounds of fat gone. I've brought him ER and LR to read and told him point-blank to not even bother with the low-fat diet/drugs approach--I'll never go that route ever again. And he is WORRIED that I am following the BTD, because he believes it isn't a legitimate food plan. How in the heck does that make any sense at all?

Now that medicine is a business dominated by the HMO bean-counters, and drug reps are more important than patients in most offices, we need the truth of the BTD more than ever. I thank the Creative Intelligence for Dr. D and his work. He has saved my life and my health, literally.


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  Now that medicine is a business dominated by the HMO bean-counters, and drug reps are more important than patients in most offices,


You got that right    the drug reps walk in and out of the office while you're sitting there waiting for your appt. How's about seeing THEM at the end of the day. Like that'll ever happen.  

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I thank the Creative Intelligence for Dr. D and his work. He has saved my life and my health, literally.  


I second this statement. I think if not for BTD, I prob wouldn't be around. My bad eating habits (even habits I didn't know were bad at the time), compounded w/ everything else, would've prob already done me in. I am SO thankful for BTD and Dr D.  




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Now that medicine is a business dominated by the HMO bean-counters, and drug reps are more important than patients in most offices, we need the truth of the BTD more than ever.


Amen to that, sister!  More times than I can to remember, I have seen drug reps come in and go right back to see the doc or whomever!  Never mind that the waiting room is filled with patients waiting to be seen! UGH!    I think doctors get special "incentives" for using particular drugs.  In my case, I switched doctors after being told time and time again that there's a pill for this she can give me and a pill for that ... blah, blah, blah ...  No thanks, not into being a walking medicine cabinet!  Makes me angry!  


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 I think doctors get special "incentives" for using particular drugs.


FWIU, that is exactly the case. They get kickbacks on some and they get something (not sure what) for moving drugs that aren't 'moving' for whatever reason.  



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JMHO: medicine has become a business, pure and simple. Not all doctors run their practices that way, but most do. If you have insurance through your workplace you're pretty much stuck going where you have coverage, and where the coverage is, the ersatz health care is also.

If you want good health, you have to create it for yourself. That's always been true, but it's more relevant now than it ever was, since (again imo) most doctors are not concerned with your health, they're concerned with their own bottom line and what the drug and health insurance companies want.  An ounce of (BTD) prevention is worth a pound of (drug company) cure!


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JMHO: medicine has become a business, pure and simple.
If you want good health, you have to create it for yourself. That's always been true, but it's more relevant now than it ever was, since (again imo) most doctors are not concerned with your health, they're concerned with their own bottom line and what the drug and health insurance companies want.  An ounce of (BTD) prevention is worth a pound of (drug company) cure!


Yeah, what she said  
Glad we're all not to that brainwashing anymore.




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What's the difference between a Medical Doctor and God ?  God doesn't think he/she/it  is a Doctor.    
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Do not get me started on the health care system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!  Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!



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Medical doctors are about "medicine".  They deal with disease and don't understand about health.

We choose to focus on health and wellness, how to attain it and keep it, through our own actions.

How much money will doctors make if all their patients became healthy?  



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you hit the point dearle Victoria, unluckily we haven't any chinese system here, only money if people are healthy this is the system who is that kinki
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Quoted from Victoria
Medical doctors are about "medicine".  They deal with disease and don't understand about health.

We choose to focus on health and wellness, how to attain it and keep it, through our own actions.

How much money will doctors make if all their patients became healthy?  

Unfortunately, the drug companies have the $$$ to bribe the FDA (or other gov. orgs.) to make it so we can't even use healthy alternatives.  We need to stay vigilant to keep the freedom to use the natural foods and supplements needed for our health.


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Becky, I have been down that very exact road you are on right now. The MD I had wanted to send me to a Psychiatrist!!  These MD's are so one sided and really don't care about your health, all they want is your money.  I commend you on your perserverance!  Hang in there and stay away from those who are so discouraging.  
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Cathy,

I think it may actually not be that bad.  It may be that everyone in every profession simply is in their respective profession, doing some specific thing for money, because it's just a compulsive or conditioned fetish they have for that thing.  In other words, they somehow must do that thing.  It's like an obsession.

With this perspective in mind, it's entirely possible that today's allopaths are simply allopaths because they have the sort of innate psychological makeup that somehow compels them to intensely love synthetic things and protocols, and love to be dashing around, constantly tinkering with people's disorders and wanting to be needed and feel superior.  

If this is indeed their psychological makeup and needs as people (and, let's hope, merely a reversible addiction), why would they want to deprive themselves of all that by actually making you better in the long run?

All I'm saying is that there may be more at work here than just merely the love of money.  After all, if all they loved is money, there are definitely other sorts of jobs where they might make more.  The only difference would be in the "fringe" benefits, and I believe we grossly underestimate the importance of those when we try to understand why different types of professionals and industries fail to adapt to what really needs to be done to address a given problem to the satisfaction of others outside their specific field.
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i agree with a lot of what everyone is saying but how many go to their Dr. and say please help me but don't change my life style????
Many prefer a pill to a life style change.
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meh,

Good point.  

However, it's nice to be able to have both options:  to be able to give people lifestyle advice, if they want to do that, but also to have things like pills available, if they're not comfortable changing radically.  There are lots of those people, too.
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meh,

Good point.  

However, it's nice to be able to have both options:  to be able to give people lifestyle advice, if they want to do that, but also to have things like pills available, if they're not comfortable changing radically.  There are lots of those people, too.


I agree.
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it'd be nice to give the MD's the benefit of the doubt, so to speak, but how many are willing to learn about using foods and supplements to better our health instead of medicine? THIS is what bothers me. Even if you give them the books, which I have, they still focus on meds. would be great if it weren't really about the money and keeping them in business, however, IMHO, that's just a fairy tale.  



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Sounds like MD's are the same the world over! .... they are only interested in disease and it's symptoms... and if the diseases are treated ... well you must be healthy!  If you mention becoming more healthy MD's are just not interested  
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and if the diseases are treated ... well you must be healthy!


yep, finding a doc that is interested in getting to the CAUSE and fixing THAT, is pretty tough to find.  



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I'm enjoying this thread.
My own Dr. has been told of my now lack of frequent sinus infections, joint pains and gut problems, and he's a reasonable human being, so he asked about the book & website info. He just asks if I've been tested for celiac. Actually, since I know wheat, corn and oats play hell with me, why bother? There are other things I'm less sure of that I'd like to be tested for (oh, health insurance, where art thou?)
We've actually encountered more resistance from the vet (who is otherwise wonderful) re: the raw food diet we moved the dogs to a year ago. So much cheaper & they're healthier.


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I posted on another thread in here an animation called "The Town of Allopath".  Has anyone seen it?  If not, I've reposted it here:

http://www.mercola.com/townofallopath/townofallopath.htm
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Not only your doctor is one. I know lot's. Never mind. I think the statement is right : They want to make money. There is a big industrie living from beeing ill. May be your doctor only is afraid to loose patients.
Most people could be healthy if they live right for their bloodtype.


have a nice d(w)ay!  
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I think that mostly the problem here is, those are sooo afraid not to be accepted by their gilde.....so they'll be out of them that's very scarry for em....no acceptance by their confrères and soeures...very bääää
so thatswhy most of them do their studies because of the money expected, next: helped by pharmalobby, next: thats a form of status symbol * I am this or that*....hi-hi-hiiii
if they will wake up that they ARE nothing....only exercing a job woohooo a job is not the same as a  vocation and/ or  profession .....
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What's really sad about this whole thing is that the people who are lucky enough to have insurance can't use it for health.


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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