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neerdowell
Saturday, December 9, 2006, 8:52pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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first, let me thank you for answering.  i have been reading and searching this site daily since i've been on the diet but have been reluctant to complain about my symptoms for fear of being considered a naysayer.  THANKS!

i am eating primarily collards and spinach as my greens. i also eat a lot of broccoli, onions, ginger, squash, pumpkin. i've never eaten so much red meat in my life.  i am eating at least as much as my also compliant husband who is 6'4".  i'm 5'2" and am not over weight.  just feel that way from the bloat.

i'm not certain that i have candida issues but my spit test matched the criterion for that or parasites.  i've noticed that since i've initiated the anti candida diet my cravings for sweets have increased exponentially.  so, too as i already mentioned, my hunger (but i have experienced that for most of the time being on the diet.)  and i am EATING.  i even had my thyroid tested. i am having night sweats since doing the anti candida.  i'm wondering if it could be die off.  i just don't know if i can continue without fruits, nuts, grains while breast feeding. (not to mention occasionally sweets) i'm now attempting to follow food combining principles to cut down on the epic smelly flatulence.  so far there is no noticeable difference.  are there others who have had this much trouble?  i was basically a healthy person before i started my dietary quest but i can certainly attest to the increased energy prior to the yeast wars.  sorry so garbled--i have 2 of my kids wrestling in the background.

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barbiepink
Saturday, December 9, 2006, 9:43pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hi there,My bloating has gone away(YAY!),i think it was just my body getting use to the diet.
Ive found i only have flatulence if i eat broccoli,maybe you could cut down on that and see if it helps.
If your quite hungry(i was like that with breastfeeding too),i find even a little brown rice fills me up .

Anyway good luck!
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koahiatamadl
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Quoted from neerdowell
first, let me thank you for answering.  i have been reading and searching this site daily since i've been on the diet but have been reluctant to complain about my symptoms for fear of being considered a naysayer.  THANKS!


Don't ever worry about not being taken seriously....

I am not sure I can help with candida issues but there are many very knowledgeable people here so hopefully somebody else will be able to help.  From skimming posts on candida it appears to be a longish process to get rid off.  

But here are some more general thoughts - I hope you will find some of it useful.

Are there any foods that make you feel more bloated than others?  If you do suspect a particular food I would suggest you eliminate that food for a week and see what happens - I know this means limiting yourself even more.  

Try to get hold of fennel tea - this is very helpful in relieving bloating and also very nice.  

Are you consuming enough fats - oil for instance?  Fats help to make us feel fuller for longer.  As you are not eating nuts you can probably have more olive oil.

If you are fighting candida you are probably not eating fruit - if you are eat it away from meals as this leads to bloating.  

It sounds as if you have a young family which probably keeps you very busy - if at all possible try to get in some exercise though.  This helps your digestion as well as help your body get better.  

Good luck.    
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ps- it might be worse starting a separate thread with your specific problem - sounds like yours is a bit different from barbiepink's
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neerdowell
Sunday, December 10, 2006, 3:38am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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first let me thank you for your reply.  i have been visiting the forum almost daily and doing various searches but have been less than comfortable sharing my health complaints as they seem relatively pathetic compared to others.

i would say i am eating at the larger and more frequent serving end of the spectrum as i eat at least as much as my husband.  he is 6'4" and i'm 5'2".  and i'm not overweight, although the bloat makes me feel that way.  my greens primarily include spinach and collards in ghee.  i also throw down a lot of broccoli, onions, squash, and pumpkin.  and more red meat and fish than ever.  

i am not certain if i have a candida issue but i meet the cloudy spit test criterion for either candida or parasites.  and my sweet cravings have increased exponentially after i started avoiding such things as dried fruits, nuts, rice bread, and sugar.  so, too has my newly epic smelly gas, especially when i eat anything other than meat and greens.  could it be yeast die off?  as i mentioned i'm taking acidophillus and now i'm experimenting with separating starches and proteins.  and i'm starting to keep a frickin' food diary out of frustration.  i fear it becoming an obsession and although i've not been tempted to stray to major avoids my cravings for items off the anti yeast diet are becoming overwhelming.

ohyeah, i'm also having issues with night waking, night sweats and intensity and irritability.  what gives? --thanks for listening.
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neerdowell
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much to my chagrin i just found that my first reply that i thought was lost was here all along.  of course not until i'd posted another. DOH!  so sorry.  i'm still learning.  koah, i just found your follow up replies, thanks.  i do work out normally 3 times a week doing cardio and weight training.   i may start a new thread as per your recommendation, too.  
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neerdowell
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i'm glad it worked out for you,  barbiepink. i'm shooting for the same adjustment.  
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neerdowell,
Are you on an anti-candida regime that involves herbal supplements?  What is your program like?

I have followed programs with a lot of strong herbal anti-fungal and anti parasitic herbs and I felt pretty lousy while taking them.  Also a couple of the herbs were avoids for me.

I approach candida differently now.  I feel that it is not a problem that will be solved once and for all, but rather an ongoing involvement with the way I eat, and trying to keep the right balance in my digestive tract.

If I try and totally eliminate fruits, and starchy vegetables, I would not be able to last long on the diet.  I try and stick with a small amount of fruits like blueberries and cherries, also sweet vegetables like parsnips, carrots and sweet potatoes.  I eat no sugar, no bread or cooked grains, no citrus fruit or strawberries.  I take the anti-candida enzymes if and when I notice symptoms of yeast imbalance, and it rights itself within a week or so.  Also the PolyFlora for my blood type and Intrinsia are two supplements that I find essential for my digestive health.  And I use ARA6 everyday.

Just another approach to the balancing act of the candida critters.



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Vicki
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neerdowell,

hi there!  I just wanted to encourage you by sharing my story...I'm a Type A non-secretor and while A's don't do well with a lot of meat products (burns up our arteries), during breastfeeding, to keep weight on and not be hungry 24 hours a day, I ate 1 or more pounds of meat/fish a day!  I'm thinking that some days I ate 2 pounds of compliant meat/fish.  I ate turkey, lamb, chicken, salmon, sardines, etc.

I would caution not to focus on detox during nursing.  If you are eating a lot of meat/fish, definitely balance that with a good amount of green vegetables.  

How old is your child and congratulations on continuing your nursing relationship.  A great beginning for anyone in this world!  
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neerdowell-to help you with your cravings...l-tyrosine.

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One must be careful of supplements during breastfeeding.  
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neerdowell
Wednesday, December 13, 2006, 1:35am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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thanks everyone for the advice.  i'm gonna try to chill and take it step by step, gradually--  and be less stringent for a while.  i won't be nursing my daughter for too much longer as she will be 2 too soon.  and then my tired old body will be all mine, to nourish and nurture. after four kids, it's time!  no worries over experimentation with supplements.  i checked everything in advance.  and i'm a big fan of 'less is more' except when it comes to information!  i'm trying principles of food combining to see if it reduces my issues of gas and slow transit.  i sure hope it works, my kids are coming up with embarassing epithets for me.    
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