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Mystic
Monday, November 14, 2005, 2:47am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I read this book last December and only excercised once in a while as I have a muscle disease that can be painful. Since January 05' to now I have lost 95 pds and 6 pant sizes!!! Yes! I am a
totally different looking person! I have not been this weight since I was 26 years old. I am 51 now and I am now picking out new clothes in the junior section of the store. All the food I am eating...is everything I have always enjoyed. All the things that the book say are to be avoided don't make me feel good when I eat them anyway. So it works perfectly. I went alittle further. I cut out Wheat, and added more Soy products. I am an A Type. Anyway THANK YOU!!! What is the "NEW BOOK OUT NOW???" Someone just told me there is a new one out in the past 5 months????[face=Verdana][/face][color=green][/color]
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Mystic,
thanks for sharing your incredible success with BTD!!
and welcome aboard!!
congratulations!!
if you'll go up to the top right side of the
page,to Member Center, then to Avatar
Settings on the lower left side of that page,
you can select your blood type click the save
button at the base and you won't
have to keep telling us what it is.

the books your friend mentioned must be the health series:
you can find those in the blood type store, up on the right side of this page.
.


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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The harder you are on yourself, the easier life will be on you!

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Hi Mystic and welcome to the forums.  What an achievement in so short a time.

If you go to your member center you can select your avatar, that way everyone can see your blood type, whilst there you can add any personal messages to your posts.

If you visit the Blood Type Store, top right hand side of the page, you will find many goodies and supps available for each blood type.  There is also a "book section" so you can check out all the latest publications.  I'll put a link for you:

http://www.dadamo.com/napharm/BTstore/BTSstore.pl?user_action=list&category=Bookstore%3B%20Books

Hope you enjoy the forums.

Sue.


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CONGRATUALTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I love success stories!! You Rock Chicka!!!Thanks for sharing.
   
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That's wonderful!! Congratulations!!
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ELCarrier2005
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Hi Mystic,

   How encouraging for me to see how you did with out exercise, I have been on a plateau for about six weeks now, they tell me that the exercise might be making me gain muscile which is heavier the fat so that is what I am hoping for. I need to lose more then you have so feel better hearing that it can be done on this diet.
   Thanks for sharing  
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Great testimonial, Mystic! Thank you for sharing.

95 pounds! That's awesome!!!


�Poly

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Ummmm....ahh.......mmmm..ummm...

O.K., I'll admit it, I'm in shock    Awesome job!!  

You haven't shed just pounds, you've lost a person!

Mystic, have you found that by being on ER4YT, that it has lessened the affects of the muscle disease on you, both in frequency and severity?  



Oh, and Poly, TAG, you're it!  


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Without it, we would not experience the most important qualities of our existence; Living, Loving, Learning, Laughing.

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Well done! A truly awesome achievement!


"I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now" - Bob Dylan

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Can't wait until I can write the same thing. Good going Mystic! Congrats!
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Mystic,

Thank you for sharing.  Congratulations...you sound so happy with all the changes you've made.  It's great to hear that you have always intrisicially craved the 'A' foods that your body was meant to eat!

Alia


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Hi Everyone!!! Oh my Goodness! How Sweet you all are! You all will do the same as I did to! It takes some time and some thinking out to. And you really have to follow your type pretty closely and cut your portions down some. I can't eat like I use to anymore at all. I now eat about 4-6 small tiny meals a day. I just do not require that much food or want it anymore. With "A" I have always hated meat anyway so going semi-veggie was perfect for me! Some chicken and Salmon, "No" Wheat, Milk, Meat, Pork, Nitrates, Alcohol, Wine, Tomatoes, Green, Yellow, or Red Peppers, and there is a lot of other things. But those are some of the highlights. I replaced them with: Vanilla Silk Soy for Milk, Cascadian Oak Cearal, Nature Valley Granola Bars, "No Wheat",
Rice Crackers, Melba Crackers, Cream Cheese, salads, fresh fruit, fresh fruit smoothies. These are just some of the things I eat there are many more. When I cook for my hubby at dinner. I just cook the same as I would for myself. He has a tummy and does not eat well away from home anyway so one meal a day that is healthy won't hurt him I figure and he always says it tastes good. My Cholestrol has come down from the 600's to the low 200's. My blood suger was in trouble before I started this diet, not anymore, it is back at a normal level again. As far as my muscle disease goes... nothing will help that unfortunately but, it did help in one area. By removing that half of a person I was dragging around it helped relieve some of the pain a bit.   I am very very grateful to be here today able to tell you my story hoping I can help anyone that has any questions at all. Just give me a shout
My heaviest last yr was actually last November I topped out at 235 Halloween. I looked just like W/Judd. I read the 4 your Type during Dec and started the "Change of Life Diet" in Jan 1st
of 2005 and I weighted in at 140 on November 7, 2005.
Exercise: I work in my yard tending my gardens. I have a lot of Rose gardens. I try to ride my mountain bike on our cement trails when I can, I belong to a 24 hour Fitness Center and I have a Gym at home. Mind you I do the best I can when I am not in pain. Understand... I am in pain 24/7 I have to take heavy pain meds just function each day. I push myself very hard. I hope that helps, if not and you guys have a special question you want to ask please don't be shy. I want to help, I only wish I had known about this place back when I was going thru the tough part so I could talk to someone! Bye for now and Hang in there![/face][face=Arial][center][/center][color=red][/color]

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Keep it up, girl!!  I bet that in a few months to a few years, the pain situation will get better & the disease you have will slowly go away, maybe not entirely, but enough to function well.  WOW!! What a story. I wish I could convince more  friends to just try the BTD for a few months!!  God bless you & yours!
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Congratulations!  You have a lot to be proud of.  It's a wonderful testamonial to Eating Right and taking good care of yourself.  I'm glad to hear that your pain has diminished.  Unbelievably good that your cholesterol has dropped so much!
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Dearest Ee Dan,

Sea Salt & Light...humm...interesting...blessed be to you to! Thank you for your Replies and to lighten things up a bit here we go!

A Moon Vow for the Loss of Weight!

When the Moon shows cold and slender,
Stand beneath her starved light,
Wearing only white and silver-
Say, to whet her appetite,

I make my vow to fast until
This crescent Moon shines round and full;
While she waxes let me wane:
I must lose, that she may gain

While she grows, take silver wine,
Silver water, silver milk,
And bread like snow or linen fine,
And fish as clear as ice or silk-
But only these, and less of all
Than you would wish, to feed her well,
So mote it be and bright blessings to all.

A little late Halloween fun for the diet. You never know it might help?!? .
Hey Guy's you have to keep things light and airy and have some fun to!
Just consider this a Mystic fly by------>

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It's funny Mystic, I've actually gained a little weight after starting BTD.

I lost 47 lbs on Atkins and switched to BTD right after I reached my goal weight (Atkins and O-diet isn't that different really - apart from the dairy and pork, of course) and I've gained 8 lbs. I know I've upped my carbs - I eat oatmeal in the morning, sometimes rye or spelt bread at lunch and some fruit now and then - but overall I've not changed that much.

In the beginning I was annoyed and planned on going low carb again, but now I'm not sure. You know, I actually like my body better at this weight (I like having my boobs back...! ). Overall I feel great, and that's what matters most for me.

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Oh, and Poly, TAG, you're it!  


Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...!!!  

*smooches Missile*


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Mystic
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boy this board is sooooooooo Corn Confusing to me!!!!! Grrrrr! Okay your name is Poly???? Right? So I called you by the wrong name, sorry . And what does the (Poly, Tag, you're it!) mean? Okay done with those questions.
Now...they other ones ,
I tried Adkins twice and got very sick on it both times by the second week. The BTD was easy for me, I guess I am a natural vegetarian and didn't know it. I hate meat...lol. I like chicken and some fish but not all the time. I use to be a carb addict. I could sit and eat a coffee cake in one sitting and start on a box of cookies next, but now I never even think about that stuff. If I get a sweet tooth I grab a granola bar with no wheat.
It depends on if your body weight is at a healthy level for you. Your heart, your height, you know all that good stuff, lol. We all want boobs...me too! !  
Have you gotten rid of the fat that you wanted to get rid of around you? That is what I was going for. I had 3 rolls around my gut!!! Now I have a completely flat tummy. I still can't believe it! I told my hubby last year as I was crying " At 50 yrs old there was NO Way I will ever get this weight off at my age and get a flat stomach again". Guess I ate my words. I do not think I will use that word "NEVER" again....
Do you replace the dairy with Soy Milk? Like Silk Milk? The Vanilla is fantastic! And it is so good for you. Are you over weight at all? Or close to your goal now? I puzzled how your not losing weight and really shocked that you have gained 8 pds??

Well...Mystic is saying Good-Bye for now while scratching her head in disbelieve!
Nice talking to you Poly!
Bright Blessing to you.
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Quoted from Mystic
Do you replace the dairy with Soy Milk? Like Silk Milk? The Vanilla is fantastic! And it is so good for you.


Silk soymilk has carrageenan in it which is a troublesome avoid for all blood types.
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?486

Carrageenan is in many brands and varieties of soymilk so you have to search for the few that don't have it.

Some of the following, and maybe others, are avoid free:
Westsoy
Soy Dreams
Edensoy



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poly,
if you followed the frequency values given for our type, regarding carbs, surely your weight would not fluctuate! )
it s all in the quantity!!  same with fruit and legumes........sad but true! (


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Hi Poly,
  If you are comfortable with how you are I wouldn't worry about a thing,
  I am losing weight and my doctor keeps pushing me to have weight lose surgery even though the surgeon says I should not because of a liver problem. I don't undrestand her at all, when I wasn't losing weight she said nothing and now she wants me to have the surgery really bad for some reason.
  I would like to lose faster but I am feeling better and able to do more then I have for a long time so I am just going to go with the flow.
   GOD Bless you.
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I know there is a lot to this Diet, much...much more than I got into it. I am only stating what worked for me. As I said I lost 95 pds in less than a year. But, I really did it hard core. I cut down on everything, I really mean everything. I turned into a rabbit. I followed what they said I could eat in the book. I didn't go any further than the book, cookbook. I didn't go into the secretor stuff as I was dropping weight right and left. I had 40 pds off in 3 months. Soy milk helps me very much as I am in menopause to. And I don't drink a lot of dairy anyway as I don't care for it much. I know I read in his book somewhere that "what is good for one person, is not always good for another" on a any diet. Everyone is different. So maybe it will help for some people out there like me. I am sure this is not for everyone. I am doing something right? My husband last night after a year of saying NO Way will I go on any diet (with his big tummy) finally said, "Order me the blood test"! I have been so worried about him! I
have been so worried about my baby! Worried he will have a heart attack. He looks great everywhere but around
the middle and he has very high cholestrol & trig. This is a big step for him. I am thrilled for him!
Anyway, Lola thank you for the info on the Soy Milk, you all have the awesome info on so many things! Its incredieble the knowledge base you have! This Board is a God send! It really helps reading all the posts! Thanks again! Lola have a great day!
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What a great story Mystic. Congrats on the weight loss. Eating the right foods in the right amounts goes a long way to creating weight loss in the right places. For me a high carb diet actually makes me gain weight because it sets off more cravings for carbs, which in turn puts the weight gain on my stomach. But, when I eat lean proteins and eat about half of my veggies cooked and half raw ALL the weight comes off the middle without fail. My blood sugar and lipids also  improve dramatically as well.


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mystic,
you have a great day, too!!


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Hi Poly,
  If you are comfortable with how you are I wouldn't worry about a thing,
  I am losing weight and my doctor keeps pushing me to have weight lose surgery even though the surgeon says I should not because of a liver problem. I don't undrestand her at all, when I wasn't losing weight she said nothing and now she wants me to have the surgery really bad for some reason.
  I would like to lose faster but I am feeling better and able to do more then I have for a long time so I am just going to go with the flow.
   GOD Bless you.


One thing that really hit me in the book "Mastering Leptin" (where the 5 rules below came from ) was when they said, "NEVER let doctors remove anything from your body, and do everything that you can to avoid having them do so".  The specifically go into the weight loss surgery.  I felt that was one of the most significant things that was said in that book.  Even liposuction is in question because of this.  After all, in 1996, they discovered leptin, a hormone used to regulate your weight amongst other things.  Whe is it produced?  In your fat cells.  When you remove them, you are throwing off a lot of systems in your body.

Just food for thought.



FRESH START TODAY!!!
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Equipro,
   Thank you for the info, now I have to get the doctor to back down or find another one.
    Thanks for the thought food
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So much has been going on here. Great thread!

Quoted from lola
poly,
if you followed the frequency values given for our type, regarding carbs, surely your weight would not fluctuate! )
it s all in the quantity!!  same with fruit and legumes........sad but true! (


I know I know! You got me completely there lola! *hides in shame*

I HAVE been overdoing the carbs. When I stopped Atkins and started BTD I kept on losing weight and I got a little scared and started eating more carbs to stop the weightloss. I guess I got a little carried away, because now I have difficulties controlling my appetite on carbs - especially rye bread and chocolate. I rarely eat avoids, but too much is still too much...

Btw, I'm 5'7'' and weigh 151 lbs (My goal weight was 143 lbs)

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One thing that really hit me in the book "Mastering Leptin" (where the 5 rules below came from ) was when they said, "NEVER let doctors remove anything from your body, and do everything that you can to avoid having them do so".


That's very interesting, EquiP. That WOE is fascinating. I have only one problem, and that's the "protein in the morning"-thing. In contrary to how I am for the rest of the day, I'm a VERY picky eater in the morning. I can't eat eggs in the morning. They make me gag. And I don't have time or the energy for frying meat in the morning. Not to mention protein-shakes! Ick! I so love my oatmeal with (yes, Mystic) soy- or rice-milk (and cane-sugar ). I know I know - high carbs big time - but I so missed oat meal while doing Atkins, so I was thrilled that I was allowed to have them on BTD. (And I know Dr. D says not to eat oatmeal if you want to lose weight... )

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Hi Poly,
 If you are comfortable with how you are I wouldn't worry about a thing,


How sweet of you! Well, I do enjoy having a little more to fill in my bra, I must admit! I lost the weight all over, but mostly around the middle, my stomach, my arms and chest - my enormous butt will always be enormous, and my hips always be big. Only liposuction would do any difference there, and that I would NEVER dare. Eep! I think you're doing right in not having that surgery. That's really scary, and when you're losing weight without it, then that's absolutely the best way to do it. God bless YOU!

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And what does the (Poly, Tag, you're it!) mean?


Heh, that's a little silly thing MissileCop and I have going... When I came here some months ago, I instantly fell in love with one of MissileCop's posts. I told him so, and posted a for him. Missile did so as if he got scared of the crazy Danish woman stalking him and "ran away from me", and ever since MissileCop and I sometimes play "tag" and chase each other around throwing kisses at each other. Heh, we're just like silly kids in a school yard!


�Poly

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Hi Poly,
   Have you ever tried the low carb soy milk by 8th Continet, it is really good. I have to kept the carb down a little because of diabetes and it has been a great help for me.

   I will not have the surgery and when the surgeon got hold of me and I explained what was wrong with my liver then he agreed that is not a good idea, so I asked him to explain it to my doctor so she will not bug me anymore and he wrote her a letter today. Guess that should take care of it and if it does not I will find a new doctor even though I don't like looking for them.

  Could wheat be stopping my weight loss ? I just found out there is wheat in the soy sauce that I have been using and after looking for awhile in the store got help and found one that does not. I hope switching will help.

   Keep up the good work.
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That is cute Poly!!! Another question!! How do you get the RH neg below your Avatar like others have???? Help?
Thanks
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Congratulations Mystic!
What a great story...your weight loss, cholesterol...all of it!  Great that your hubby likes the foods too.....bonus!
Over time I bet that your pains will start to diminish too, with the increased energy I am sure you probalby don't notice the pain "as much" as you used to.
You must be soooooooo happy!!!! Great work!
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Hey way cool I have a colored sash or belt "its not white anymore"  and they changed the words above it! Gosh, lol I feel like I graduated to something! . I love this site!!! Thank you Sasha!!! I am convinced I could not have done it w/out this book! I am just learning about all the other stuff you all know about. I just found this site a couple of days ago. Hubby is thinking about starting on the diet to now. Blessed be!
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Have you ever tried the low carb soy milk by 8th Continet, it is really good.


Sorry to tell you this, but 8th Continent soymilk has carrageenan in it too.
http://www.8thcontinent.com/our_soymilks/light.asp

You might want to consider switching to a brand and variety that doesn't have it in the ingredients list.


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Sorry to tell you this, but 8th Continent soymilk has carrageenan in it too.
http://www.8thcontinent.com/our_soymilks/light.asp

You might want to consider switching to a brand and variety that doesn't have it in the ingredients list.




Hmmm that's helpful about the soy milk. I never knew there was a dif. between any of them except for taste really. I don't drink soy milk,   but I buy it for the hubby on my insistance, think he is lactose intolerant, not sure, but the big black circles under his eyes have disappeared for good, I'm sure it helps with his IBS as well.
I don't drink any milk at all except half a splash in my one cup of coffee I have a day in the morning, soy does not work well in coffee, so just might start going black now... I'd like to try drinking soy milk so I can have cereal, these suggestions have been great, will look for those brands and check out the link you sent.
Thanks!  
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That is cute Poly!!! Another question!! How do you get the RH neg below your Avatar like others have???? Help?
Thanks


Click on the button: member center in the upper right of the site. Go to the menu on the left and click on Profile Information. At the bottom you'll se a box that says Personal Message, and there you can write RH, location (like I have) or anything else you like. Hope that helped!

ETA: Oh I see you already found that out. Great!

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Heh, you did! You posted 10 posts and got promoted!

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That's very interesting, EquiP. That WOE is fascinating. I have only one problem, and that's the "protein in the morning"-thing. In contrary to how I am for the rest of the day, I'm a VERY picky eater in the morning. I can't eat eggs in the morning. They make me gag. And I don't have time or the energy for frying meat in the morning. Not to mention protein-shakes! Ick! I so love my oatmeal with (yes, Mystic) soy- or rice-milk (and cane-sugar ). I know I know - high carbs big time - but I so missed oat meal while doing Atkins, so I was thrilled that I was allowed to have them on BTD. (And I know Dr. D says not to eat oatmeal if you want to lose weight... )


From the book "Mastering Leptin" by Richards and Richards:

"A high-carbohydrate breakfast such as juice, cereal, waffles, pancakes, or bagels does not enhance metabolic rate.  It may trigger a problem with insulin resistance as a lot of insulin is released in reesponse to the carbohydraets, causing energy fluctuations and sugar craving during the day.  High glycemic carbohydrates can shift normal leptin release earier in the day.  If there is leptin resistance [and most of us who are overwheight have this], this fuels overeating throughout the day and especially at night.

The two signs of a poor breakfast are:

1) Being unable to make it five hours to lunch without food cravings or energy crashing
2) Being more prone to leptin resistance later that afternoon or evening.  This sets in motion strong food cravings resulting in poor eating habits.

A high-protein breakfast helps metabolism turn on and stabilizes hypoglycemia or low blood sugar reactions later in the day.  Protein enhances the reliease of glucagon, helping to blunt the excess insulin response that causes insulin resustance."

more:

"Soy protein is potentially problematic, especially if a person is consuming soy protein drinks.  It may lower thyroid function in many individuals."

and:

Rule 4 (protein at breakfast) becomes more imporant the older a person becomes.  This is because there is less ability to tolerate stress."

finally:

One essential principle is to eat enough protein to help the liver stay metabolically active.

Eating a solid protein breakfast provides a stable base for energy, mood, and blood sugar throughout the day and evening.  It helps keep the body in a calorie-burning mode, and mode that can burn fat for feul.  When energy crashes during the day, frequently due to a lacking breakfast, then metabolism and weight loss come to a grinding hault.

A great number of metabolic problems can be solved or avoided by eating a breakfast that consists of ample protein."

Just [breakfast] food for thought!

Poly, why not do what I do?  I hard boil 3-4 dozen organic eggs at at time (put them in water, bring it to a boil, let them boil for 20 minutes then immediately put them in icewater until cold) and keep them in the fridge at all time.  My breakfast ALWAYS starts with 1 whole hardboiled egg with sea salt and 1 extra hard-boiled egg white.  Then, no matter what else I eat, I have that protein to kick it off.

Another option is to have some sliced roast beef on hand and just have a few pieces of that.

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Okay Equipro, I've printed your last message.
I've checked the index on what I eat in the morning.
Seems like my pecan nuts, walnuts, oatmeal and soymilk have a fair amount of protein. But I read soymilk is bad for the thyroid. So I could replace that with Rice milk but then it has less protein. And I should take out the raisins. They are more carbs then anything else.

Fruit and veggies have almost no protein so I won't eat that in the morning. The only thing I can't do is eat chicken or fish in the morning. So I guess my breakfast is filled with enough protein (or is it?? I can easily make it to lunch without cravings, so I don't have a poor breakfast......   weeeeeeee.......

I was thinking adding barley to my breakfast it has more protein then oatmeal.

I can try to eat an egg with my breakfast.

I can also eat an egg with lunch. I have rye bread for lunch. I added a few pecan nuts a few times with my lunch and I felt great. Maybe I should do that more often?

I have chicken or fish for dinner with my veggies and salad.

Does that take me in the right direction?

Leaves me just one question. When do I eat my fruit?
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This book really doesn't get into all that.  I pretty much eat fruit when I want it.  Even though you are an A, what they are trying to get at in the book is to eat more protein than other things at breakfast and then, after that, eat no more starch (portion wise) than protein at any other meal.

Why don't you add an egg to your breakfast?

The rest of the time they just recommend "eyeballing" portions and trying to keep the starch down to equal or less than the protein consumed.  In other words, if you eat a hand-sized piece of fish at dinner, try to not eat more than the same SIZE of starch at that meal.


They take NO consideration in for bloodtype, so I have added that in for myself.  As an A, you might do more plant-based protein than would I.

In this book, timing is the most important thing, followed by emphasis on protein and cutting back on portions overall.


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Oy....... so much to learn. My head is spinning.
Starch, that's in potatoes I assume? Also in rice. How do I know if something has starch?
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OOOhhhhhh That is a gooood Question I am waiting for the answer to that one to!!!!!!  
Although, I don't eat potatoes because the book says I should not, but I have eaten Jasmine rice and Basmati rice off and on. The problem I have now, is I get full on about 5-6 bites of food at one sitting. And since I have an Ileostomy I digest my food very fast & its gone. So I have to eat several small meals a day or I get hypoglycemic. I have Vertigo anyway, I hate that feeling of lightheadedness!!!!  Since I have been on this diet, I have gotten to where I am now I physically can not eat unless I am hungry. I have to drink liquids all day 24/7 as staying hydrated is extremely important to my living (w/this ostomy). I know its important for the diet but but I have to drink ten times more. I know on this diet they want you to eat "3 meals a day" but I can't do it.
Again I am curious about that question above though! And sorry for rambling on again!!! Grrrr!  

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Starch is, well, starchy:
rice, risotto
corn, maze, masa
potato - regular, sweet, yam, parsnip, etc
breads - all of them
any type of pasta
any and all cereals, musli, tapioca
almost all thickeners (a few are seaweed based)
cookies, pie crust, doughnuts, cakes, etc.
beans
peas
cooked carrots

basically, all grain, legumes, root veggies and anything made with those things.


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In LR4YT type As are recommended to eat 6 meals a day. There are a lot of other good recomendations too.

Don't forget that excess cortisol is a big issue in weight loss/gain in type As.


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Starch is, well, starchy:
rice, risotto
corn, maze, masa
potato - regular, sweet, yam, parsnip, etc
breads - all of them
any type of pasta
any and all cereals, musli, tapioca
almost all thickeners (a few are seaweed based)
cookies, pie crust, doughnuts, cakes, etc.
beans
peas
cooked carrots

basically, all grain, legumes, root veggies and anything made with those things.


So basically I can eat anything a rabbit eats?????  
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Thank you Don for your reply! And I am so glad to know something isn't wrong with me about the 5 or 6 meals a day. My husband says I eat like a bird now.... But, I really do eat until I am full. I can't stuff in, what your just not hungry for. I guess my tummy has shrunk. Its really weird to....I use to really craved so bad ... choc., and cake and cookies all carbs, but I don't every think about them at all anymore. Why is that???? I mean I was bad before! I haven't had candy or soda, hell I don't even drink alcohol anymore when we go out! I use to always have dessert after dinner when we went out for dinner. Never do anymore. And I don't even think about having it??? How did I change so differently like that in 10 months.   My habits are sooooo different now that I think about it and I don't even miss the old ones at all. At one time, I felt I could never stop eating. That I couldn't help myself. It all tasted so good. Now I just can't even imagine that happening to me. Sorry to ramble again but this all just surfaced as I was typing for the first time. Well Thanks Doc, can I lay on the couch now?....same time next week? I know...I know...my hour is up..!

PS: Oh Yea-----> I know Cortisol is a hormone but, how does it effect me as "A" and how do I control it with food or diet Don??????

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Cortisol is addressed extensively in "Mastering Leptin".  Actually, after I read the book, I sent an e.mail to Dr. D about it, wondering about his thoughts on the whole thing.  I haven't heard anything from him about it.

I don't know how A's are affected - BT is not taken into account in this book.  However, it might be worth picking it up and reading it.  Lots of info about biofeedback systems.


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Thank you SO much for yout thorough replies, EquiPro!

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The rest of the time they just recommend "eyeballing" portions and trying to keep the starch down to equal or less than the protein consumed.  In other words, if you eat a hand-sized piece of fish at dinner, try to not eat more than the same SIZE of starch at that meal..


I can still eat as many not-starchy vegetables I like, right? (Within reason of course )

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2) Eat 3 meals per day.  No snacks.  At least 4-5 hours between each meal.


Does fruit apply as a "snack"? (I'm not a big fruit-lover, but I enjoy a bit of fruit now and then)

I really need to buy this book. It's higly interesting!


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Mystic, What BTD books have you read? If you have not read LR4YT I recommend that you get it and read it. It is a great book and will explain the different stress hormone issues related to the different blood types.  The Encyclopedia is good too and there is also a lot of information on Dr. D's website.

http://www.dadamo.com/napharm/store3/template2/cortiguard.htm
http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/mind/mind9.htm

It sounds like you are doing great with your diet. Certainly avoiding all that sweet junk food is good for your cortisol levels.

Based on what I know about you so far I also think you must do a great job with the emotional side of the stress/cortisol control equation.

If you want and feel like you need to do more to control your cortisol levels maybe you could look into some breathing exercises, easy forms of yoga, or meditation.
ALTERNATE NOSTRIL BREATHING
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I haven't read the leptin diet book, but a high carb meal is not expected to last 4 to 5 hours whether you have a leptin problem or not.  If you're going to eat high carb, and that's closer to the typical A diet, you need to eat small frequent meals to keep blood sugar level.  The more protein and fat you add to a meal, the longer you can go in between.  That's why a balanced meal is more satisfying for a longer period of time.  The carbs enter the blood stream first, the proteins take longer, the fats take the longest.  If you have all three in one meal it's kind of a slow release process.  That's great for Type O that can handle the protein and fat, but As might not be able to digest it all without adding to a cholesterol problem.  If you are an A and want to try the leptin way or other high protein diets, I'd just suggest you monitor your blood lipids.  In the Diabetes Health Library book which also pertains to management of obesity, Dr. D recommends 4 to 5 meals or snacks for all groups.  You do have to find your own way though.


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Thank you Don for your reply!!!   You are extremely interesting to listen to! So this book is just called "LR4YT" and thats it..right? I will get for sure! Being an "A" you know as well as I do....but I guess EquiPro does not quite understand that I do not eat meat, and I like my oats, get in the way of my coffee and my granola in the morning and your in trouble bud!!! And no "they do not have Wheat in them". And again I "CAN NOT have "3" meals a day!!! Please stop telling me that. I can't do that. I can't help what that book says I will pass out during my day. I have to have 5-6 small meals period EquiPro. EquiPro...95 pds later your going to tell me its not going to work for me??? I don't mind learning new things any day of the week but come on here. !  I am sure that the Leptin Book is Wonderful and is going to help millions of people out there because not all of us are the same. What works for one, won't for another. I have to work with some of my existing health issues that were here before I started this diet. I'd like to be here to enjoy skinny me!  
Don I have only read the Eat right 4 your Type------>The Encyclopedia------->The Cookbook so far and I have the wallet card for A and the a very small skinny book for A's. Oh, last night I ordered a blood test for my hubby, 2 secretor tests, 2 radical tests to do on both of us. I figure I might as well check it all out, Right??? But I am really thrilled that my hubby wants in on this now!!!! Its so true ... real true happiness spreads everyone wants it! Ain't it grand! !
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LR4YT = Live Right 4 Your Type which is another one of Dr. D's books.  It has detailed information about secretor vs. non-secretor and stress hormone differences between the blood types.

http://www.dadamo.com/napharm/BTstore/BTSstore.pl?user_action=detail&catalogno=ED004

By the way I am not type A. Look at my avatar.  I am a red meat eating type O.


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Mystic, don't worry about the leptin way of eating as far a frequesncy is concerned.
I have to eat more meals, too.  Being a ravenous O can be a pain.  Lately, I've been eating too much Ezekiel bread because of the 'hungries'.  I set aside the Ezekiel for other reaosns & end up pigging it.  I have some set aside for stuffing.  Will it last!??  Back to the subject--frequesncy & portion size are very personal. I seem to have to eat at least 3,000 calories daily lately to stop the hunger, & I weigh around 135#.  Exercise & other factors help.  
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As a type O I don't think about calories. If I eat enough red meat based protein then I won't have cravings or be hungry for hours.

Then along with eating the protein I eat a lot of greens and occasionally a few other types of veggies to fill me up and give me the nutrients I need. And I always have some olive oil with every meal!


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Hi Don I know your not an "A" but you seem to have alot of knowledge and you know that I am so I just thought you might know these things, maybe I am wrong. Anyway, Thank you for the name of the Book, there are so many and I am new to the larger picture here. I will get the book this weekend! I am very very much into nature
Hi Mrs. T O+, Thank you for the reply, Always love the replies 235 down to 140 in 11 months 6 pant sizes. Congrates on yours!!!!! Are just thrilled or what!! Your 5 up on me! Stinker! But, I'll catch up maybe...I don't know if I should lose much more. Some people are telling me I am starting to look to thin. So I am thinking I should maybe just hold at 140 I am 5-7 and 51yrs. What do you guys think? I don't have charts around here anymore since I retired. This is an outstanding way of eating, isn't it? Well, I feel better with a few people posting about the several meals a day issue today it really helped me. I was getting frustrated a bit. O's are hungry lil one's huh   I just dropped bread completely cuz I couldn't find one I liked w/out wheat. They all tasted like dirt! I don't miss it anyway. I have Rye Crisp, Melba Toast instead or Wasa. See now stuffing would make me sick. See how different it is for everyone. Amazing! I am so happy for you that it is working for you to!!!
You to Don, I am thrilled for you to!!! Gooooooooooooo "O's"! ; I just love seeing so many people caring about there health. When I was nursing I saw so many that did not care. This is wonderful. All of you from beginners to goal makers my hat is off to you all :
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Mystic, you should realize that while the Leptin way of Equipro works for Equipro, it might not work for you. But if you want more protein in your diet you can also do that over the course of 6 meals if that works better for you. If what the Leptin way says is true that you remain full longer with more protein, then perhaps you should try it over 6 meals per day and see what happens. We are all indivivuals here and what works for one may not work for someone else, or perhaps in an adapted way.

I am mostly interested in this leptin way because it says it burns your fat more. That is something I need. I have such a long way to go. But I will do it my way, and I most certainly will eat some starch (I like my rice etc.) in the evening.
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Also, Mystic, the LWOE IS a plan for losing weight and pounds.  You, at 5-7 and 140 are THIN.  The LWOE is focuses on those who have always had serious weight problems (either way too thin or obese), or, like me, hit 40, keep gaining weight and can't seem to lose it (especially around the middle)

The theory is that those that fit into this category have, among other things, leptin resistence.  Eating with the 5 rules supposedly helps to reset your leptin and other biorythms and feebacks.

You, at your weight, do not appear to fit in these catagories and therefore your leptin might be working well.  In other words, you might not need to follow those rules at all.

Also, Sandraruba, the LWOE says NOTHING about eliminating starch.  Even at breakfast, the point is to FOCUS in or protein, not to eliminate starch. They simply disucss keeping starch equal in portion to protein or less at lunch and dinner.  They don't suggest eliminating any foods except for junk. The thing of eliminating starch is my goal, personally, because I have severe starch and sugar issues which keep me from losing weight.  Trust me, if I weren't such a starch and sugar addict, and could eat it normally, I would eat some at each meal.


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Good Morning All! Thanks for your reply Sandraruba! Don't get me wrong I was never discounting the the Leptin theory at all here ever!!! I have faith in everything here. Just not everything here is tailored "for me is all". I am not attacking the the Dr's work here at all. If you think that...I didn't get my point across correctly and I am sorry. All I was trying to say was "everyone is different and it works differently on each of us is all". Ricecakes YUMMY!!!
Hi EquiPro, I guess you read the top portion of this already. You seem to know a lot about this Leptin theory and that is great and it is working for you and I am thrilled for you. You do what works for you and that is healthy for you. The way you explain it, it just might be something for my husband to try. I know a lot about his dieting history and it is a tough one. But, I want to get his test kits going first before I get into all of that. But, I will remember Leptin for him and pick up the book. I want him to succeed like me so bad. I am so worried he is going to have a heart attack if he doesn't do something soon. His is all around the middle to! And he just can't seem to leave junk food, candy, choc, diet cokes!!!!, ice cream etc alone! But Thanks for the help.
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Mystic - it sounds like your hubby is leptin resistant and would benefit from the LWOE.  It really is for those with the belly fat issue and weight issues.

I feel sorry for him.  It is such a struggle.  I struggle with it and so does my Mom.  We are easy keepers, have lots of food issues and love to eat.  That's just the luck of the genetic draw this time around for us.

Though I'd like to be thinner, I know that being thin is something that might always be a  bit out of reach for me, and that being the best that I can be WHERE I AM is the best way to go.  

I keep trying.

Get the Leptin book for hubby.  Even small changes can help.


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Also, Sandraruba, the LWOE says NOTHING about eliminating starch.  Even at breakfast, the point is to FOCUS in or protein, not to eliminate starch. They simply disucss keeping starch equal in portion to protein or less at lunch and dinner.  They don't suggest eliminating any foods except for junk. The thing of eliminating starch is my goal, personally, because I have severe starch and sugar issues which keep me from losing weight.  Trust me, if I weren't such a starch and sugar addict, and could eat it normally, I would eat some at each meal.


Thanks Equipro for clearing that up. I thought it was the program that eliminated starch. I really need to lose a lot of weight and if this can help me, then I am willing to try it. Ate two eggs (only the whites) this morning. The dogs just love me because they get the yolk......   .
And I added some barley to my oatmeal, because it has some more protein.

I was also a sugar addict. My favorite thing, especially at night after my dinner, egg cookies. Just plop three eggs in a bowl, add sugar and some more sugar, some baking powder, and some flour. Throw it in the oven for 20 minutes and your sugar egg cookies are good to go. Did I feel good after eating 6 of those? No, in fact I felt lousy, but I still had to have it. Sometimes 7 days a week!
Now I can't even imagine that I had to have that so badly.

We'll just see how this goes. Of course all this changing is making my body go like :"hey, what's going on now!!!" Haven't lost any weight for three days, but it will start again once it's accustomed to everything.

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I was also a sugar addict. My favorite thing, especially at night after my dinner, egg cookies. Just plop three eggs in a bowl, add sugar and some more sugar, some baking powder, and some flour. Throw it in the oven for 20 minutes and your sugar egg cookies are good to go. Did I feel good after eating 6 of those? No, in fact I felt lousy, but I still had to have it. Sometimes 7 days a week!
Now I can't even imagine that I had to have that so badly.




I know just how you felt after eating those sugar egg cookies! I used to do that a long long time ago with chocolate chip cookies, I would eat so many right out of the oven and would I ever feel SICK after. Then I discovered eating radishes right away took the sickness away! Red work, but the white even better. So I kept doing it, till one day I had had enough.
Good luck on your BTD!! Just stick to it!
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Great story and great poem also! You know my excuse for not following the diet to the letter is my age. I'm not going to lose weight because of it. Well you proved me wrong. Hopefully I can get back on it real quick...Aani.


Listen, this is what I think: I think we can't go around measuring our goodness by what we don't do, by what we deny ourselves, what we resist, and who we exclude. I think we've got to measure goodness by what we embrace, what we create, and who we include. Pere Henri (Chocolat)
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Hi Everyone, I am a bit concerned. I did the secretors test and they still don't have it in there data base but they have had my husbands for a while and they were sent together. Anyone had that problem before?? I just emailed them. Thank you!
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