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Alia Vo
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Thank you ladies for sharing your wonderful stories with us.

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This is truly a plan for life--that's the beauty of the BTD.


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Sasha, welcome, and I'm thrilled at your striking results thus far!  How wonderful!


"If you are on one of Dr. D's diets and it isn't joyful, you aren't doing it right." - moi

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I had a set back this morning when I woke at 5 a.m. to the old lower back pain, I was ok to get up and out of bed, walked it off and was ok but was not happy at all to feel that way. I ate popcorn last night, but decided it needed yup, you guessed it, BUTTER! I can't believe I did that, now I wonder if that could have set off the inflamation again...  (I am believed to have Ankylosing Spondylitis)
today was a good day eating wise, all the right foods and even made another trip to the health food store for pastas, nutritional yeast (which I had tonight on my veggies....yummy, very good) and some other healthy goodies.
My hubby just made a bowl of veg. beef soup out of a can loaded with soup crackers, (apparently the fish, brown rice and veggies were not enough to satisfy his apatite)omg, just the smell of it made me sick. He's obviously not on board with me 100% yet!  I know red meat is not good for me and so far I have not craved my usual bbq steak. Thank goodness! But I sure miss my chips! I noticed I lost 1 pound too, steady for 2 days now. I was hoping to get back to working out as I have not been able to for so long, afraid I would do some damage to my back. Take long walks with my dog and gardening is about it. I hope to loose 12 pounds. So back to the gym real soon here! I can't wait.
I have now been on the BTD for 6 days and only one bad day pain wise, so I guess I'm not doing too badley then considering I have been in pain for almost 2 years daily. I still feel like I have my life back and I refuse to believe that this disease is going to take over my life. I am thankful that I joined this board because of all the help I have recieved and supposrt and hearing stories, I no longer feel alone in this battle for a healthy life.
Thanks everyone!!!  
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Sasha-great to hear that your hubby likes the change in you and that he is willing to get his blood type done.  If he is eating like you and feels better sounds like he may be an A also.  Although eliminating alot of junk helps alot too.  Popcorn is a neutral for A's (unless you are a non-secretor and that would be a benenfit for you to find out right away if you can.  The NAP store sells the kits). and I hear it is excellent with nutritional yeast as butter is a no-no for you.  If you haven't already making ghee is a very good thing.        

Debra


Hi Debra, was wondering what and where is the Nap store? I am from Canada. I checked at the medical lab and she says they do secretor testing, so on Thursday when I see my Dr. about some other blood work, I am going to tell her about the BTD that I am on and that I want to be tested, I am sure she will give me the requisite. She's sure going to be surprised when I tell her how good I have been feeling being on this diet.  Also I bougt the nutritional yeast and it was good on my veggies. What is "making ghee"????
Thanks!  

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Sasha, hang in there. We all make those stumbles at times. I have stumbled and eaten things that are an avoid and I also suffered for it. I do believe this way of eating takes a lot of determination and committment, but when you lose some of your determination and some of your committment (or your husband loses his); don't give up. Think of how good you have felt the last 6-7 days except for one bad day. Hey 6 out of 7 days feeling good sure beats 7 out of 7 feeling bad! I don't know if  the butter caused the inflamation to come back, but if eliminating it made the pain go away, then be sure to find a good substitute for the butter. As an "O" I can't have popcorn and I love it, I also can't have peanut butter and that was my favorite spread and favorite snack peanut butter crackers. So, now for a snack I had a rice cake with this bean butter I found at the HFS that taste a lot like peanut butter with none of my avoids in it, I spread it on the rice cake, topped it with some walnuts (I can't have pecans or peanuts) and then sliced 1/2 a banana up on it. Delicious and filling. You get very creative on this way of eating and I have totally made some messes! Pumpkin is in season and I took a pumpkin recipe and substituted the avoids for things that were good for me and instead of the bread they called for I used Ezekiel Bread, it was awful, but I had fun experimenting even though I had to throw it out. I would like to encourage you to hang in there, when you make a mistake, get beyond it and go on. After all we aren't eating fast foods anymore, fast foods that destroy the body and the mind. I wish I had enough encouraging words for you, but I don't, so I will just say don't beat yourself up over your stumbles, just get up and go on, you won't regret it.
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Sandra - as an A nonnie I can't eat popcorn either. Try this tasty and satisfying alternative:

Rice Cake "popcorn"

for one good size serving crumble up 3 (Lundberg) ricecakes into bite-sized popcorn-sized pieces, drizzle with olive oil (tossing all the while), sprinkle with 2 T nutritional yeast and a pinch of sea salt. Eat with abandon!

You will hardly miss the old standard - and this one doesn't make you feel icky!

I also enjoy additive-free soymilk with blackstrap molasses. It is chock full of iron (15% if the Daily Value)  and potassium (20%) in one tablespoon. This amount will also give you 10% of Calcium DV and vitamin B6, 8% of DV magnesium - and no sodium.  

There is a thread about blackstrap molasses on the board worth checking out.

You will find snacks to take the place of things you  and your family eat now as you go along. Think of it as replacing the unbeneficials with things you enjoy and are good for you!

For an awesome chocolate fix check out TypeBase4 for the Omega-3 chocolate (I make it into truffles). Mmm. Mmm goooood!


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I met a young kid at a clinic that got diagnosed with Ankylosing Spondylitis. I think A's are more prone to this. I never would have had an appreciation for AS and it's pains if it weren't for him.

Have you looked up the protocol for AS in Dr D's BTD Encyclopedia?

This kid was in jail and they didn't do much to help him. (No real suprise). He was really confounded about it. Luckily and ER doc was volunteering that day and was able to get him in to Dr's that could help him.



It is so pleasant to explore nature & oneself at the same time, doing violence neither to her nor to one's own spirit, but bringing both into balance in gentle, mutual interaction.

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a brother of mine had AS once......
he s a true believer of BTD now!!

it has helped him enormously! )


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Thank you!!!!!  
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Sasha, hang in there. We all make those stumbles at times. I have stumbled and eaten things that are an avoid and I also suffered for it. I do believe this way of eating takes a lot of determination and committment, but when you lose some of your determination and some of your committment (or your husband loses his); don't give up. Think of how good you have felt the last 6-7 days except for one bad day. Hey 6 out of 7 days feeling good sure beats 7 out of 7 feeling bad! I don't know if  the butter caused the inflamation to come back, but if eliminating it made the pain go away, then be sure to find a good substitute for the butter. As an "O" I can't have popcorn and I love it, I also can't have peanut butter and that was my favorite spread and favorite snack peanut butter crackers. So, now for a snack I had a rice cake with this bean butter I found at the HFS that taste a lot like peanut butter with none of my avoids in it, I spread it on the rice cake, topped it with some walnuts (I can't have pecans or peanuts) and then sliced 1/2 a banana up on it. Delicious and filling. You get very creative on this way of eating and I have totally made some messes! Pumpkin is in season and I took a pumpkin recipe and substituted the avoids for things that were good for me and instead of the bread they called for I used Ezekiel Bread, it was awful, but I had fun experimenting even though I had to throw it out. I would like to encourage you to hang in there, when you make a mistake, get beyond it and go on. After all we aren't eating fast foods anymore, fast foods that destroy the body and the mind. I wish I had enough encouraging words for you, but I don't, so I will just say don't beat yourself up over your stumbles, just get up and go on, you won't regret it.


Thank you so much!!I really do like getting creative, but I find I am grocery shopping all the time too, but I am stocking up now slowly so there is always something to cook or snack on...hey we gotta have our snacks!
You did have encourageing words, and I thank you for that....I just need to stay on this, and I believe I can. Not only am I more pain free, but I feel healthier, everything feels so much better already. Imagine what next year will be like! Wow!
Thanks again!

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Sandra - as an A nonnie I can't eat popcorn either. Try this tasty and satisfying alternative:

Rice Cake "popcorn"

For an awesome chocolate fix check out TypeBase4 for the Omega-3 chocolate (I make it into truffles). Mmm. Mmm goooood!


This sounds really good for me, as I can have those when I don't want the popcorn.
The chocolate fix sounds good, will check that out too.    Yummy!
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I met a young kid at a clinic that got diagnosed with Ankylosing Spondylitis. I think A's are more prone to this. I never would have had an appreciation for AS and it's pains if it weren't for him.

Have you looked up the protocol for AS in Dr D's BTD Encyclopedia?




Hi, no I haven't looked it up in Dr. D's BTD Encyclopedia. I will now, thank you.
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Here's a variation of Zola's rice cake "popcorn":

Before crumbling the rice cakes, lightly toast them in your toaster.  It really brings out the flavor.  Then you can drizzle your olive oil, or, in my case...Ghee....and then toss with Nutri. Yeast.

Sasha and Southern Kitty, Thank you both so much for inspiring us all.  We are all in this together, and I love the sense of community we have here.



Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.
Let me not pass you by in quest
of some rare and perfect tomorrow.
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Quoted from lola
a brother of mine had AS once......
he s a true believer of BTD now!!

it has helped him enormously! )


Well I can believe it! That is such good news that it helped him that much. I have not spoken with anyone yet that has AS.
Sorry, but you said "had AS once", are you saying he doesn't have it anymore???    ??      I have never heard that it can go away, I don't know very much about it, but if so this is the best news I have heard in a while.
Can you tell me more how he is doing now, is he still on the diet?
Thanks!


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Here's a variation of Zola's rice cake "popcorn":

Before crumbling the rice cakes, lightly toast them in your toaster.  It really brings out the flavor.  Then you can drizzle your olive oil, or, in my case...Ghee....and then toss with Nutri. Yeast.

Sasha and Southern Kitty, Thank you both so much for inspiring us all.  We are all in this together, and I love the sense of community we have here.


Thank you, I passed the popcorn recipes onto a friend as well.....
Your right, a sense of community is what I think we all need in order to do this, it's a great feeling isn't it? I'm still new and have very high hopes, I don't see myself bailing anytime soon, or at all!!! Love it, it's easy and you just put your mind to it and ask questions...I hope to start helping others soon too.  
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As the years pass, this way of life feels more and more "RIGHT".  And we feel more and more grounded in living in harmony with our bodies, learning to understand what our bodies need and what they are telling us.  
Most of us are amazed at how little we understood before, and how much we are growing.  Even those of us who really tried to eat healthy foods, we find that this way of life helps us be perceptive, and less inclined to force some generalized concept of health upon our poor bodies.  
It is like peeling layers away from an onion; progressively we find that there are more depths to this growth than we realized, and it is really a path to self-awareness.



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sasha,
well yes actually, he hasn t had a problem since.........
he is quite compliant and took BTscience seriously from the start.

it has been years that i haven t heard a complaint.


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Lola,

Would he be willing to share his story?  I would like to send it to a friend.
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sasha,
well yes actually, he hasn t had a problem since.........
he is quite compliant and took BTscience seriously from the start.

it has been years that i haven t heard a complaint.


Thank you for letting me know that. I was told that you can go say..10 years and feel good, and then it comes back. I think that staying on this diet for many reasons will probably certainly lessen any symptoms and if fact start to reverse some as well, despite what the Dr.s say.I will be starting my excersise program designed for my back soon, just taking baby steps for now. Great success story, thanks for sharing!  
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Thank you for letting me know that. I was told that you can go say..10 years and feel good, and then it comes back. I think that staying on this diet for many reasons will probably certainly lessen any symptoms and in fact start to reverse some as well, despite what the Dr.s say.I will be starting my excersise program designed for my back soon, just taking baby steps for now. Great success story, thanks for sharing!  


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Ooops, hit the wrong keys and did a post of my own!
My husband ate chinese food last night and had a terrible bout in the washroom this morning...super loose bowels. He has been very good for a while now, then this.(he is half on the BTD but takes a product called Umac Core, has made him regular and no pains anymore..has IBS)  I didn't eat it and felt fine, as before most times eating chinese I would not feel so great  (stomach wise) even with out the msg. Now I see all the pork, beef and peppers and oyster sauce, deep fried prawns etc. that I was eating are AVOIDS for me. Some of the veggies are good but it's the sauce they make....no-no, never again for me. I'll make my own stir frey.
My arthritis pain was very low today and had no pains elsewhere....it's so good to get a full good nights sleep!!!
Hurrah hurrah!!!  
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At chinese restaurants they use a lot of corn starch in the sauces.  I know the noodles in asian markets mostly all have wheat in them even the rice or buckwheat noodles.  You are very likely a non-secretor which makes wheat and corn and sugars avoids.  I'm so glad you found the Arthritis book and have shared your story!
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I had been eating organic whole-wheat pasta for many years (and had found a couple of really top-notch brands), so was disappointed to realize that it's an Avoid for me.

So far, I have found two brands of organic whole-grain pasta that are OK for A nonnies.  We have tried the Vita Spelt whole-grain rotini and angel hair and thought they were both good, so we just ordered some more of their pasta from our food coop.  (They also make white-spelt pasta for those who are used to the grocery-store kind -- we have not tried it.)  We also just bought some Lundberg brown-rice rotini and penne, but have not had a chance to try them yet.  Both of these brands are available at most natural-food stores.

Melissa, after reading your testimonial, I just did a Google search and checked out Tinkyada's web site, and am delighted to see that they make FIVE shapes of organic brown-rice pasta.  Now I'm eager to compare their products with Lundberg's, but I don't recall ever seeing them in the store.  I see that they're made in Canada -- are they available in the U.S.?  Are they sold in grocery stores or natural-food stores, or what?

My goodness -- I didn't notice there was a second page of posts.

Vicki, thanks for pointing out that Chinese restaurants use corn starch in their sauces.  I've read enough Chinese cookbooks that I should have thought of that.  Darn!  Here I thought there were a couple kinds of restaurants that I could eat in safely (by picking and choosing, of course).  Does anybody have any caveats regarding Indian restaurants?  (She asked as she cringed....)

Also, thanks Zola and Victoria for the rice-cake "popcorn" ideas!  Now I can have my own treat when hubbie has his Sunday-afternoon popcorn -- using Zola's recommended Lundberg rice cakes of course!  They're the only brand worth eating.  (All the rest I've tried appear to be made out of styrofoam.)


Carol

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At chinese restaurants they use a lot of corn starch in the sauces.  I know the noodles in asian markets mostly all have wheat in them even the rice or buckwheat noodles.  You are very likely a non-secretor which makes wheat and corn and sugars avoids.  I'm so glad you found the Arthritis book and have shared your story!

I see my Dr. Thursday, I'm asking her to send me for tests to find out if I am a secretor or non.(I can just see her face now when I tell her what I have been up to)  I have stayed away for corn, except had popcorn, no wheat but have had very little sugar, if any at all. I don't crave it.....I'm craving my chips, all kinds and flavours! This is a hard one for me.
The Arthritis book has been great, I was very surprised to see it in the bookstore in the Arthritis section. As soon as I saw it, I knew it was the one to get. I also picked up the handbook for A's, nice and small to keep in my purse to pull out at any time.
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