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Brenna
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Where's all the B testimonials. It seems like I'm only seeing type A and O testimonials. I would love to read testimonials from other Bs.
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They're out riding the steppes at the moment. When they come back, they'll offer you a bowl of yak butter tea and tell you their story, don't worry.



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I am just wandering down the kitchen "steppes"
at the moment to feed my kid - but I´ll try to get around with my B story later


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You Bs just have to go out and produce more Bs!!!  When you are only 5 percent of the population, you're just not going to have as much coverage!

Actually, I'm kind of surprised at how many regular B posters there are.

Just wait, they'll get here.


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Hi Brenna and Welcome!!


Well, you got me there... you're right, I have never posted my own story... perhaps because it is a never-ending one. But I will consider telling of my journey thus far one day...


Would love to hear yours, btw...





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*reads through the B's posts and chuckles to herself at the B trend to get around to things  . . . eventually*

Hang in there, it'll be worth the wait.


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Quoted from Brighid45
*reads through the B's posts and chuckles to herself at the B trend to get around to things  . . . eventually*


Touché, darling...





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Still here and reading everyday.  But there's so few of us B's, that makes more work for those of us who are out here.  I'll try and write more later.
Love,
one busy B



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All joking is done with much affection, of course . . . Bs and Os have a lot in common. Os do the same deal about getting to things later on, they just cover it up with multitasking. *g*


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saluti half of mine please no butter at all- ghee is ok
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Hey....trust me, I tried to produce a B.  But between my A husband and me, we only were able to make an O!!

My story is pretty much in my blog.  As with Kristen, it's is an ongoing work in progress.


OUCH!!   My dogma was just run over by my karma!
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Don't be sad Brenna there are more B's than AB's........    

They do have some great threads going....


Hi Isa, Chanur my regular comrades in arms    

And I must add Blackbox....I see you back again today....great to see you posting  

Sue.


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I am a B Type who's life was dramatically improved by the Blood Type Diet. I have suffered with Hidrenitis Suppurtiva from puberty. I read the "B" information and discovered that one food in particular "chicken" was toxic to my system. Every time I eat chicken my condition flares up to the point that I am almost immobilized. Through the years I have tried cutting down on red meat and other "trends" in dieting only to find my health not improving. I finally read the "B" plan and tried eliminating things from my diet and I feel and look better than I have in a long time.
I recently joined an online supporrt group for Hidrenitis Suppurtiva. I have tried suggesting these people try their own Blood Type diet to see if it is the missing link in curing this often mis-diagnosed and often ignored condition that doctors merely prescribe antibiotics and other prescription drugs for. One thing I quoted to the group members was how my blood-type is my best defense for my immune system. I am convinced that this is what has made the condition more tolerable than it ever has been. I would love for these two communities to get together and conduct study groups of people with this condition and test the Blood-Type theory. I think it would bring great releif to alot of people in pain.
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Why Hello Guitar Girl!

Thanks so much for sharing... would love to hear more about Hidrenitis Suppurtiva and how the BTD is helpful for those suffering from this.

If you head on up to the member center and click on avatar settings, you can pick up your Type B avatar which, once designated, will be seen with all your posts.

Welcome to the message boards and enjoy the forums!!



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hidradenitis suppurativa
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I am glad the BTD has helped your condition!
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The B's?

Oh, they are around here, somewhere.  They'll show up sometime when you least expect it.



DISCLAIMER:  The above information is garnered from personal experience.  This advice is not intended to replace that of a trained medical professional.  Although, personally, I wouldn't trust most trained medical professionals to have the knowledge or know-how to trim my toenails.
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So - my time in the kitchen - became much longer because I wandred out in the garden and became completely absorbed in the spring... the flowers and bees summing around.

Anyway almost 6 years ago, I picked up ERT in a bookstore- I just browsed it- but got so surprised about how much of the B - diet I reconised.
I would say that I overall was a healthy person. 27 year old single mum- a  bit overweight, a little bit of allergies but nothing real terrible. So I got the book- and was delighted but also very provoked!
I live in Denmark, where we eat a lot of dairy ( easy being B) but also a lot of rye bread, wheat, pork, chicken and tomatoes. Corn wasn´t  so much  a problem then- but it is getting worse( getting more and more massproduced food with cheap corn starch, sugar and oil in
I started taking just the worst avoids away- and sure- I did feel great - no itching feeling when I went to the toilet, no sore tummy , no running nose or earinfections- and I did loose some weight- not a lot- but I felt good.

BUT BUT it is SO easy to go back - slowly more and more wheat and tomatoes got back in my diet-  they just seemed to be everywhere- and a lot of the beneficial food is VERY much in a short season or difficult to get here, so suddenly I didn´t feel so good.
BUT I decieded to go back - this time my then 6 year old daughter was tested -she was O- and when I saw how much she improved just by making very small adjustments in her diet, I really wanted to do better.

This time I planned a head alot more. Like made sure I always had good homemade bread in the freezer. Always had rice, yoghurt, cheese, carrots and bananas at my place.
Took carrots, a bit of cheese or bananas when I went out - and made a deal with myself that I,
1 or 2 - depending on serving size could eat a small amount of the less evil? avoids.
It helped- a lot - made life easier. This time I remembered HOW bad I felt when I went back to my old diet - for SURE it felt WORSE than before BTD.

Almost 2 years ago I started reading about secretor/ non- and I decided that I wanted to get my daughter and I tested. We were both secretors- -not much of a surprise really.
I started living after LRT- and WOW things happend- I lost about 1 kg a week without trying and my energy level went UP UP- I got my daughter more involved with BTD- but she still didn´t follow the portions  frequency.
I did it almost 100 % - but I found it a little bit demanding and expensive to do it that way and slowly I got away from it again. IT didn´t mean that I started to eat a lot of avoids- NO!
- but I just seemd to get too much neutral food and too little beneficials. The portion frequencies got slowly erased.
I didn´t put on weight, but I started to feel worse, got a mental fog, tummy aches and felt SO tired.
Life in general was rather stressfull, I lost my job and my dad got very sick.. so the energy to do something about my health wasn´t really there.

This December I decided that I wanted to do something for myself and get back on the right track.
I was still unemployed and poor, my dad was terminal ill, but somehow that made it easier to make the decision.
I really started well, even though I think wintertime is the hardest time to start btd- well at least the B-diet here due to the lack of beneficial fruit and veggies.
When my dad died in January my lifestyle got a lttle bit shaken, but it didn´t fall a part.
Today when spring is here (like Kristin wrote - "asparagus heaven" ) I find it easier and easier to get more and more beneficial.
I still need to do something about the mental part of the lifestyle- I used to do yoga- but since I find it difficult to do on my own and I can´t afford going to a class- I use my garden and the forrest/nature as my meditation place.

To my joy my almost 11 year old daughter has asked if she could follow her O diet even more closer- so now when my lifestyle works, I´ll start helping her to get closer to 100 % O diet

It still takes a lot of my energy to make sure I make the right choises, but it is starting to get easier. I havn´t touched chicken or sweetcorn in more than a year - I don´t miss it.
When I eat out I try to avoid the avoids, but I still won´t make a lot of trouble about it-  so last weekend I did eat some avocado and 1/2 a tomato- and guess what -it didn´t kill me
- I still need to read the labels very carefully and cook more than I used to. I don´t think that will ever change - and I dont mind it. My family and friends tells me that I have become a "devine mistress" in the kitchen

I can´t imagined to live another lifestyle and I wish a lot of lifes would be saved or just impoved if BTD was more recognised.


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Quoted from Brighid45
All joking is done with much affection, of course . . . Bs and Os have a lot in common. Os do the same deal about getting to things later on, they just cover it up with multitasking. *g*


Hih, hi..

I'm here as well, and will write more story "later" , I'm just waiting for losing some pounds.

Though, I feel better and better day by day, I must say.

Very energic, almost doing three people's work at the weekends at home, feel fresh all the time.

As Kristin once adviced in her blog, love is always an ingredient in my recipies.

Betul
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Ohh, I forgot to say, I generated three little Bs with my husband, who is a B as well

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Good for you and your husband Betul! The world needs more Bs! *HUG*

Henriette, thanks for sharing your story. I'm glad the diet is working for both you and your daughter and that it is bringing so much joy into your life. You are indeed a 'divine mistress' of the kitchen and the message board!

*gives all the Bs a big gentle HUG to start them off for the week*


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Right now my story is just being put together in my head!  It needs to get put on paper and edited greatly!  I could write a tome when it comes to this wonderful way of life!  And I can ramble, which makes it worse!  

So, I will get to it in a short while!    Really  


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I think........
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Good for you and your husband Betul! The world needs more Bs! *HUG*

Henriette, thanks for sharing your story. I'm glad the diet is working for both you and your daughter and that it is bringing so much joy into your life. You are indeed a 'divine mistress' of the kitchen and the message board!

*gives all the Bs a big gentle HUG to start them off for the week*


Thank you
It is just funny how a lifestyle change like BTD- can make you far more adventurous in the kitchen, most negative reports on BTD says that your diet gets restricted and bland.... not mine

Betul- what a joy to live with all theese B´s- we need more- I would love some small B´s

Looking foreward to hear some other B story !!!


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My daugter, who is 10 years old now, was viewing the foodlists this morning. I have a colored list of most of the foods, and this red, green and yellow material seemes to be so enjoyable for the kids. It's marvellous to get them in the subject.

She was examining what was beneficial, what was poision, and neutral. That was the point to make a goal, so I told all of them that if they stop spending money on cookies, biscuits, and other wheat/corn products when they are at school, we can much more easily afford beneficials. She seemed to get interested in the matter, and I'll go on educating them about BTD. Yes, my husband is a lovely person, and he doesn't buy chicken any more, though we consumed it too much in the past; but he is not  supportive enough about the diet yet. I'm the one who is doing the shopping, and deciding what to cook, and he never speaks out negative words for the food plan, but I'm not encouraged enough yet to change their lifestyle when they eat out. Though, I can teach my kids how to choose food. Ok, no panic. They will not die if they go on as before, but meanwhile I can teach them.

On the after-birth report of each, it was written that they were Bs, but I want to have a bloodtype test for them as soon as possible, just to make sure.

I thought that I should change my eating habbits first, and if I'm satisfied, I will completely change the food plan at home. I started doing this. No tomatoes, no chicken, no sunflower oil for a long time, but I couln't replace wheat flour bread with anything else yet(not for myself, for my children).

I should take another step to improve the household's life style, and I'm trying to find out the means of it.

Love,
Betul
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I love reading success stories as I am just starting.

Here's a bit of my story...make sure you get out some tissue )
I've had fatigue and GI problems for over 10 years, been to several GI doctors to no avail.  Have also tried a couple of DO's.  About 7 weeks ago I was introduced to my blood type and have stuck to the diet about 97%.  I was told that I have adrenal gland problems, leaky gutt and candida.  The doctor put me on a dosage of Fluconizole and a bunch of supplements.  It seemed to improve my bowels at first, although everything else seemed worse.  After finishing the first treatment, I got a second one and this time I got even worse.  I started having chest pains, feeling faint and extremely tired.  So, I stopped taking the meds.  Then, things got even worse. (UNBELIEVABLE!) I was falling over myself all the time.  The dizziness and what I can only describe as hot/cold flashes increased. The DO swears it's an adrenal problem.  Nevertheless, I ended up in the ER as I could no longer function and after a series of tests, I was told that it's not an adrenal issue and that it could be an inner ear dysfunction/virus. Meanwhile I got what I can only describe as the worse cold I have ever had in my life.  So, here I sit a sad and confused B.
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Hello Isacap ~

Thanks for sharing your current travails with us.

You know, I don't think about it much but the BTD lifestyle has helped greatly in resolving my inner ear problems. Some doctors I know call it the "by the way" phenomenon, as in "Oh, by the way, I no longer suffer from blah blah blah" Once the healing has taken place and the discomfort is no longer ever present, we can sometimes "forget" we ever suffered from it. That's how I feel regarding ear problems... forget they were ever an issue for me but they were. The worst was episodes of vertigo/dizziness. I think eliminating wheat was the key for me in resolving inner ear problems... as well as taking active measures to ensure healthy sinuses.


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Oh happy day !
I just want to share that today after not thinking about my weight for about 4 months- and took the tape measure and WOW without really trying I had lost between 5 and 10 cm around my belly , waist and hips
It must be the garden work or ?
I had not  lost much around my chubby arms and breasts but what the... it goes when it goes.
I have had far to much dark chocolate and butter lately and still it went away- I feel so inspired to do even better !!!!


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Great news, Henriette!!! Thanks for sharing  


I'm sure it depends on body type, but I have found that exercising is the way for me to lose those inches... or centimeters...  


Now if I can only figure out how to keep it where I want it and lose it where I don't...




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Yep it must be exercise- when I look at my diet I have had lots of calories and fat !
- but only tiny amounts of avoids
Maybe no stress has something to do with it as well- just a thought- but loosing weight digging the garden/ and weeding - that is great- so when it stops raining I´ll do some more before my May garden is completely drowned in weed


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I hope Kristin responds to this message:

Kristin, I read your thread on May 4 about inner ear problem being helped through BTP.  It was encouraging.  I have had an inner ear infection that has not been helped by antibiotics or herbs for about a month (still dizzy, w/occasional chills fever and fatigue).  Would greatly appreciate it if you could tell me what else you did to help the inner ear problem?
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Hi balletnut,


Sure... in adults, many inner ear problems have an underlying sinus condition along with it that often goes undiagnosed. So, working toward sinus health... LOT'S of rest, nasal irrigation (through using a neti pot), steam inhalation, making sure you have adequate intake of B vitamins, keep yourself well hydrated, checking into the quality of air you breathe both in your home and work environments... along with a committment to high compliance on the BTD helped to regain my sinus health and thus end my ear problems.

Dizzyness is also a symptom of sinus congestion which I lived with for many years along with bouts of positional vertigo... all gone, now.

Best of luck to you...  

Kristin (moderndancefreak)





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Hello Kristin, thank you so much for your reply.  Very grateful.  

I am going to have to find myself a neti pot (whatever that is).  I just recently had this problem, along with adrenal exhaustion.  Too much dancing and not enough rest and food.  It's a challenging to do multiple pirouettes with a vertigo

Thank Dr. D and BTD!  And, thank you again.  

P.S.  Glad to meet another dance enthusiast.  
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Hello again, balletnut  

A neti pot is a small ceramic or plastic pot that is available in many HFS and usually comes with instructions for using and how to prepare the saline solution.

There were some threads here about using a neti pot... I'll hunt around and if they are still available, I'll post them below.

Pirouettes often caused vertigo in me...  


Kristin


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Wow, thank you!    Modern dancer saved a balletnut.  

Good spotting technique is suppose to reduce vertigo....but lately whipping the head around to spot where I am makes me wonder where the heck I am.  Must have the unmistakable "Duh, which way did he go, George?" look on my face 'cause my partner or someone usually whispers "psst, over here."  

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...can SO relate!!!


My spotting technique was never exactly exemplary...


The true meaning of life is to plant trees under whose shade you do not expect to sit.

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I'm a type B, have been on the BTD for 7 years plus.  It's been great for me.  I started shortly after my husband died at the strong encouragement of my Naturopath.  I fully intended to give the program a really good try for two weeks, and then tell her that I really wasn't up for a diet at that time.  WELL - within those two weeks I lost several pounds, felt the depression lift a bit, and my "arthritis" disappeared.  As someone who likes to be very physically active, all this was too good to pass up - so here I am, 7 years later and 35 pounds lighter, obviously still on the program.  It's the FIRST time in my life that my weight has been easily controlled.  I don't feel deprived or hungry, and that is a real joy.  But, I'm wondering if there is any special information for those of us with persistent high blood pressure.  I recently had to see a Cardiologist, and he has me on a low sodium diet.  It's pretty tough to stay below 1000 mg/day even though I rarely eat out and love to cook.  My beloved cottage cheese has 1/3 of my daily quota, so ????  I'm having a little trouble negotiating these information channels, but I'll keep trying.
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Hi Kathy and welcome to the forums!!

You can get your Type B avatar in the member center located at the top right of this page. Once there, click on avatar setting under edit profile to choose your avatar. Once designated, it will be seen with all your posts.

Thanks for sharing your successes on the BTD with us  


Re: your question about sodium and high blood pressure, perhaps another member would have some info for you. I know Dr.D has mentioned that with some conditions like high blood pressure, B's do quite well utilizing visualization techniques to assist in lowering blood pressure...



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Hi Everyone.
I am a B with Rheumatoid arthritis.I don't know my secretor status yet. Does anyone have experiences to share about this disease?I was fortunate enough to find Dr. Adamo's book : Arthritis: fight it with the blood type diet at the library this week. He has put all the supplement and diet info in a single source. I am very excited about the possibilities. I soon realized after reviewing the book, that my diet consists of things that are mostly bad for me. I'm ready for a change and can't wait for my body to heal.
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use the search engine here to find all you want to know.
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http://www.dadamo.com/columns/natupdate/ask2.pl?20050401.txt

this diet is the best antinflamatory there is! )


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Hi all my fellow busy B's.  Here's my story...  I'm kind of new at the BTD, I've lost about 6 lbs , but also need to count calories to lose weight .  I eat mainly yogurt & berries (blueberries, raspberries & strawberries)  These are what my main diet consists of,  I'll also have either a couple of fried eggsduring the day, or fish dipped in egg & spelt flour & fried in olive oil, I'll have that along with some veggies occasionally, but some days I'm just too busy (you other busy B's know what I'm talking about, when I say BUSY!) to go through all that.  I go for the quick, instant, "take no thought about it", kind of meal.  I'm most of the time BTD compliant, I went out to eat with my AB husband this week, and that was challenging to find something to eat!, I compromised alittle, I had fried codfish, dipped in WHEAT !!!, AND FRIED IN WHO KNOWS WHAT KIND OF POISONOUS OIL !!!!!!!  That was a few days ago and I'm still alive, and didn't get an infection of any type.  I used to get almost monthly UTI's, but all the berries help in keeping that away completely, I haven't had an UTI since I started the BTD!  In fact, I haven't been sick at all since starting the BTD!!!!!  I've been successful in avoiding most of the avoids, except for an "OCCASIONAL" slip-up, but then start again, sometimes the next day or even the next meal, I don't watch the frequency charts, just the AVOIDS.  I enjoy eating like this, my appetite is under control when I stick to the BTD, I still want to lose about 5 more stubborn pounds, but I'm not worried about losing them, I mainly just concentrate on eating well-balanced meals....I figure the pounds will eventually drop off.  Don't worry "B" happy!!!  God bless you all for reading this B's story.  There's got to B more B stories.  I hope we get more!

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hi all

i guess ive neglected the testimonial cause ive only been doing this for 5 months, but i think the immediate improvemtns are worth noting!!

first, with my B mum {also following btd 5 months, as we live together ive got everyone in my family doing their best, but their not as into it.} She has found immediate improvemnets with her energy and moods, but most amazingly these pains she had which she called 'bursitis' for the past 4 or 5 years have completely disappeared {!}
..As she gave up the black tea, which she was drinking up to 3-5 cups a day, replaced with green tea, dandelion and rooibos, replaced bread with spelt and millet varieties, avoids corn, tomatoes, and is basically as compliant as me now as we cook and eat together mostly. so shes very happy and tells all her friends about it too.

For me, being vegetarian for over 10 years before starting btd, i started eating fish 5 months ago and being compliant, i noticed immediate amazing energy and stamina improvements, which has helped me get thru this semester of uni. No more Brain fuzz! No more iron tablets or B12 injections!! its great!

Which has all been great side effects for me as i actually started btd to help my rosacea and constipation/hemmorhoids... ughhh, yuk, but i have been hemmorhoid free for about 2 months now.

Last week i tried some turkey but i had a stomach pain afterwards and havnt tried any since, it was a hard thing to do too. i dont know how you vegetarians turn omnivore can do it! Anyhow i havnt given up on the idea just yet. It s hard to find organic meat here but we are looking into options, as we'd all prefer to eat meat as hormone free as possible, and apparently it tastes better, so my family say.

My face is still pink which i hate, but now i never break out, and only feel flushed when embarrassed or stressed. There is a few other niggling things i hope will improve with time

The biggest hope i have is that the effects will flow over for my little brother too who is also a B who is in remission period from severe mental illness, we dont force any of this on him but i think he is enjoying the changes even if he doesnt have to take much notice or stress out about what he is eating. Having BTD beneficials at mealtimes for him and available i think is fantastic for him, i hope so.


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Hello Wendy and Kawab... and thank you both for sharing with us!!

Wendy... yes I do know about those quick B meals as I am the only B in my house and lately, more often than not, "throw" one of those quickie meals together. But I do feel best when I have balanced meals, which for me means finding new ways to eat veggies that are quick and easy. I find breakfast as an easy way to get veggies... a simple stirfry of kale (or chard or spinach or...) and shitake mushrooms along with a good quality protein is a great energy boost in the AM. Just a thought...

Kawab... I was a veghead for several years and thought there was no way I'd be able to digest meat. But when I started eating meat again, it wasn't the digesting that was so hard, it was the cooking of it that I had a hard time with (and I still do not like cooking meat) plus the smell of meat cooking was quite the adjustment. It did take some time too, to get used to the heaviness of a meat meal, but the clearer head as a result... definitely worth it!



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Is it really necessary to omit to necessary to omit black tea and sugar? What are the alternatives?
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Kristen, the quickie breakfast idea sounds like something I'd be willing to try, I've never heard of Kale or Chard, or Stitake mushrooms,  are these found in a normal grocery store? or would I find them in a HFS?  The only spinach I've ever eaten, was as a kid, "canned, mushy spinach "  I didn't like it then, & don't think I could eat it now either .  Thanks for the idea though.  Now I just gotta find (Kale, Chard, & Mushrooms...this will be interesting, I'll be checking my local grocery store, I live in the United States in the state of Wisconsin, (thought I'd throw that information in, in case these are things you can only find in other countries)  I don't know
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brenna,
try substituting with green tea and compatible sugar for your type.


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Hi Wendy ~

Yes, you can find kale, Swiss chard, and (fresh!!) spinach at grocery stores and HFS's in the produce section... shitake mushrooms at a HFS or Asian grocery stores (also fresh in the produce, sometimes you can find them packaged in dried form). I like the mushrooms and kale as they are beneficial for all B's... nice to start the day with high bene's. But I do love chard...

With shitake mushrooms... I only use the caps and discard the stems. Slice and saute in a little olive oil... add freshly chopped kale ( I like the lacinato kale, also known as dinosaur kale), or spinach or chard and saute for a couple minutes until soft. Sprinkle with a little herb seasoned salt... so good and good for you!!

Yes, please forgo the canned spinach!!! Disgusting stuff!

I grew up in the upper Midwest (Michigan) and trying to remember the last time I was in a grocery store... I think you can get all of these veggies there... if not, you can ask of their availabilty in the produce section where you shop.

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Fresh spinach is a compleetely different thing!!!- I had a sweet 12 year old girl staying at my place- She told me that spinach was her favoriet veggie- I looked at her- well my kid likes it but to love it!?
- Anyway the two girls made nice green pizza with the fresh spinach- fried with garic and pressed liquid out, spelt bottom and mozzerella- it was a great succes. I didn´t even miss the tomatosauce
I think spinach is better/less strong in the morning than kale.....

Great to hear from other B´s- it is intersting how different the approaches to the B diet is- some seem to be more O-like others more vegetarian/fish-like- I wonder why ?

I wonder if anyone has tried to make a more "stoneage"-approach to the B-diet- no sugar, white flour rice etc- more veggies, fruit, nuts, meat and fish ???
I find myself eathing a bit much of flour/grains/sugar and easy dairy when stressed or BBBBuzy
- IT does take less time to grab a spelt/oatmuffin or some fruit yoghurt that to make some veggies and meat.........
I think it would be rather easy to combine BTD with a more "stoneage approach"
I need to cut down - because when I eat - yes beneficial/ neutral grains/dairy - my O kid eats more than she should.


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Brenna, if it's any consolation, I drink black tea with only cream, no sugar.  I also do the same with green tea.  With rooibos I use a little glycerine, vanilla and cream, which for me is my bedtime drink.  
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Vegetable glycerine.  You can find it at your natural foods store.  You only need a little to sweeten up your drink.  Sometimes the vanilla comes with glycerine in it, then that makes it real handy as you can just put in about a tsp. of that kind of vanilla and the sweetener is already there if it has glycerine as one of the ingredients.  
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Just a little tip Brenna -- I found my veg glycerine in the COSMETIC section of my health food store!  The brand I use is NOW.  When I bought 2 big bottles of it, the clerk commented that I must be making a lot of soap with it!  Her eyes got real wide when I told her no, I put it in my tea!  She then mentioned that it is found in a lot of snack/energy bars so I guess tea would be fine too!  There is usually something on the bottle that states "glycerine is even pure enough to be taken internally" when it's food grade.  So don't worry if that's where you find it too.  I've used it for over a year and I'm still alive!!!  


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I just discovered agave syrup in my HFS.  It is to die for in green tea!  Dr D uses it in his new Unibars, so you know it's okay for us.  A great sugar substitute.


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I'm a newbie here.  Was tested as a B about a month ago and am slowly weeding the 'avoids' out of my cupboards and planting the beneficials.  Love the recipes and stories.  

I live in Kamloops British Columbia, Canada.  I work at a fairly stressful job and am coming off a period of depression following the death of my father and related family matters last December.  

My goal here is to work with suitable foods to improve my lifestyle, particularly replace the minor anit depressants I am taking with foods that will take their place.

Hobbies and leisure activities include genealogy, birding, Tai Chi, travel, digital photography.  
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Yay more B's !! welcome to all the newbs!
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Thanks for the welcome, folks.

Wondering if there is a thread set aside for newBs to ask questions you probably all have already faced.

Questions like:
1. Why is olive oil a bene and olives themselves an avoid?

2. does anyone know of a commercial potato chip which uses olive oil instead of canola (ick), sunflower or other veggie oil?

3. my usual breakfast usually () consists of a glass of milk, slice of swiss or other white cheese and a graham wafer or fig newton or two.  I know, it's not the heartiest I could eat; however, it gets me going fast in the morning.  Now - question.  Is there a healthy, commercially made (or *easily* home made) wafer, cookie, biscuit I could have instead of the heavily floured ones I have had in the past.  I looked at the Blackstrap molasses one but it makes 6 doz and I could not store that many.  Undoubtedly they'd go off before I finished them.  And if one is substituting raisins for chocolate chips (as I would), would one use 18 oz of them??  Is there a better B cookie you've found as a morning starter?  Or ... what sort of a breakfast do the rest of you usually have?

4. If one is making a lamb stew which calls for olives (which I LOVE the taste of), what have you found is a good substitute - capers maybe?.

If this is not the right place to post those sort of questions, is there another thread I should be using?

Many thanks for your guidance on this as I get used to the online community.

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To your first question a quote from the FAQ:

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Why is the status of a whole food one value, and an extract or preparation of the food rated the opposite?

The lectin content or antigenic propensity (allergy potential) of certain foods is modified by processing. In some cases the unhealthier form (i.e processed bread) may be acceptable if heat or milling has removed the lectin from the food. Other times processing enhances the effect of a lectin, so the native form is acceptable, but the processed form is not.
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Hi Iroff and a warm welcome to you!

Yes, there is a brand of olive oil potato chip by Hain Celestial Group under the name of Terra Olive Oil Potato Chips. They have several varieties and are available in most health food stores. They aren't too bad... and I won't say they are a healthy alternative to the standard potato chip but more in compliance, at least.  

My standard quickie breakfast is fresh fruit (usually banana) cut up in a bowl and topped with plain organic yogurt and 2 tablespoons freshly ground flax meal, plus a huge mug of herb tea... most often red raspberry leaf or peppermint these days. Other breakfast favorites... eggs with sauteed greens, shitake mushrooms, and goat/sheep feta, steel-cut oats cooked in milk with apples, nutmeg, maple syrup, and a little salt.

Yes I, too, suffer from olive-love, and find myself pining for them... In my mind, there is just no substitute for olives... but capers might make an OK (although second-rate ) substitution. I have never tried them as such, however.





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how about doing half the recipe for Blackstrap molasses.

or make the whole batter and separate it into plastic bags, and freeze batches, for later use! )


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Quoted from Carol_O.
Just a little tip Brenna -- I found my veg glycerine in the COSMETIC section of my health food store!  The brand I use is NOW.  When I bought 2 big bottles of it, the clerk commented that I must be making a lot of soap with it!  Her eyes got real wide when I told her no, I put it in my tea!  She then mentioned that it is found in a lot of snack/energy bars so I guess tea would be fine too!  There is usually something on the bottle that states "glycerine is even pure enough to be taken internally" when it's food grade.  So don't worry if that's where you find it too.  I've used it for over a year and I'm still alive!!!  


Does it affect you the same way as table sugar?
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found this for you Brenna:

''Glycerine can be a carb on occasion, a fat precursor on occasion, a phosphogly
ceride precursor on occasion, and it can simply pass through the body unused.
[In other words, it fills the body's energy need of the moment, without
jarring serum sugar levels or stimulating fat storage.] For non-secretors,
this is perfect. Thus, although it is there [in the food bars] for moisture
retention, it also tends to optimize fat<->carb<->fat conversion which is
genetically a problem with non-secretors. '


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Quoted from Brenna


Does it affect you the same way as table sugar?


What Lola said!  

But from personal experience, it does not give me any type of sugar rush or rather, a sugar "down".  I find using it I don't get that "dragging" feeling where I just need something sweet to pick me back up again.  I will say though, that I like to mainly use it in teas, chocolate milk and whipped cream.  (I haven't used it in baking or cooking so I can't comment there.)  On its own, it's got a sort of "hot" (not spicey) but an actual warming sensation and can have a strange aftertaste.  I wouldn't like to take a teaspoon and drink it straight.  


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Breakfast for me differs during the year: In summertime: more cheese and fruit, yoghurt based smoothies, in winter: more eggs, potatoes( I am a sec), hot  oatmeal, maybe even warm stewed apples /plums- love the stuff with  greek yoghurt.
I know what you mean about wanting something fast and easy in the morning - but I have given up!
- 1)All readymade things contains weird oils and cornsugar/sirup-
2)I want to have room for some sugar/flour based things later the day- so I only eat pancakes etc on sundays And take my time to prepare real breakfast- it helps if you plan ahead / get up 1/2 hour earlier !

Cookies- well I make my own- using butter, white spelt/ sometimers a bit of oats, good sugar- like honey, maple sirup (loves the real stuff ) brown molasses sugar and sometimes raw cane sugar. Dark chocolate and dried fruits , nuts are great as well.


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Quoted from Birgit
To your first question a quote from the FAQ:


Thank you for referring me to the FAQ.  I hadn't located them before.  I now understand about the olives/olive oil

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Yes, there is a brand of olive oil potato chip by Hain Celestial Group under the name of Terra Olive Oil Potato Chips.
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I found that one of their types, Red Bliss, has olive oil.  The others are canola/sunflower, etc; however, I've asked my local HFS to consider getting this brand and type

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how about doing half the recipe for Blackstrap molasses.



Brilliant, thank you.  That worked.

One question about that recipe; however (Rose's Blackstrap Molasses cookies in the recipe section)  It calls for, among other things, ghee or butter, molasses, almond extract, eggs, amaranth flour as well as rice or oat flour, salt, baking soda, hot water, walnuts and I added raisins.  As the guidelines tell me amaranth flour was an avoid, I used whole spelt flour and oat flour as my flours of choice.  

The finished product was delicious however, very crumb-ly.  I think that is because none of those flours have gluten as a binding agent.  So >>> anyone have any ideas what we Bs can use in this recipe so we aren't "crumby"?  

Someone suggested xanthan gum - a pinch; however, is that on the B diet?  I could not find it anywhere.  Someone else (not on the ER4YT program suggested pre-cooked oatmeal; however, I think that would upset the balance of the other ingredients.

Any ideas??





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Cookies- well I make my own- using butter, white spelt/ sometimers a bit of oats, good sugar- like honey, maple sirup (loves the real stuff ) brown molasses sugar and sometimes raw cane sugar. Dark chocolate and dried fruits , nuts are great as well.


Any particular recipe you've found helpful??

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One question about that recipe; however (Rose's Blackstrap Molasses cookies in the recipe section)  It calls for, among other things, ghee or butter, molasses, almond extract, eggs, amaranth flour as well as rice or oat flour, salt, baking soda, hot water, walnuts and I added raisins.  As the guidelines tell me amaranth flour was an avoid, I used whole spelt flour and oat flour as my flours of choice.  

The finished product was delicious however, very crumb-ly.  I think that is because none of those flours have gluten as a binding agent.  So >>> anyone have any ideas what we Bs can use in this recipe so we aren't "crumby"


Spelt flour does have gluten, although less than wheat does. Spelt does not have the capacity to absorb liquids like wheat... it also has a finer crumb texture and I do find that cookies made with spelt tend to be on the dry side. I have the best results with spelt when using a heavy, wet ingredient like applesauce, cooked winter squash, buttermilk, etc. in the recipe.

I find that oat flour has an "extra" tendency to absorb liquids and when using oat flour, need to increase the liquid portion of the recipe substantially.

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Any particular recipe you've found helpful??

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Well I use my old recipies- but like Kristin writes spelt works different. When I bake with spelt or oat- I use a tiny bit less flour- sometimes I add a tiny bit water, or applesauce...
White spelt flour is easier to use than whole meal spelt- I would say a recipy with whole spelt and oat would be crumbly
I like to use rolled oats in bread  it make the bread rather soft and spongy- but I always let the  dough stand a while before adding the rest flour - that way I can control the dryness of dough.
This weekend I made a rather large portion of "To die for -brownies"- with spelt flour ;
6 large eggs
450 grams of cane sugar (fine)
375 grams of butter
375 grams of 70-75 % dark chocolate
300 grams walnuts
225 grams fine white spelt flour
mix like regular brownies
bake at 180 celcius, approx 25 min , should be rather soft - not dry- makes a large portion -a caketin 33 cm x 23 cm.
I put half of it in the freezer - next time I would try to use honey as a sweetener.






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Here's another B! Nothing much to say here. I switched to BTD 3 years ago. sometimes more sometimes less. Since about half a year I am committed a little more seriously. I am not a very strict dieter, sometimes I eat and avoid, because I am overall pretty healthy and I see no problem in breaking the rules every now and then. But I eliminated chicken and corn from the diet alltogether, which are major no nos for B. No more KFC    

I am eating a diet very high in dairy and meat now, especially lamb, turkey and beef, and sometimes fish. I still haven't found out how much meat is enough, but sometimes I really enjoy no-meat days too. Right now I eat meat on 4 or 5 days a week, which is a lot. I'm not quite sure, if that's too much for B. How much meat is too much for B's? Should they eat less than O or is meat every day also fine with B?

Concerning dairy: I mostly consume lowfat, but not nonfat products, because I read that there are fatsoluble vitamins, which are lost, when you move the fat out of the milk. So I am hesitant on using nonfat dairy!

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And Greetings in return to you, Rapidler!!

Thanks for checking in with us B's  

I don't know how much meat is too much either! I do eat meat every day... sometimes for two of the 17 meals (only kidding!!). I do, most of the time, eat more than 3 meals a day... more like 4-6 small meals. But I don't weigh the meat so I don't know how much I am getting at each meal. I go on how I feel... if I suddenly feel fatigued in the middle of the day, it usually means I need more protein. Every once in awhile, and more often during cold weather, I feel the need for a really big, hearty meal... and then I don't need much meat protein for a day or two after that.

I consume whole milk products for the most part... just recently switched to whole cow's milk. Wish I could find non-homogenized milk but I think I will need to purchase a dairy cow for that option.



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Just thought I'd poke my head in and say hello to all the New -Bs out there - how fantastic! Give those As and Os a  run for their money.

After nearly 2 years on the diet still experimenting, still making changes, in fact, now I'm psychologically ready to find out whether I'm a non-secretor (which I suspect I am - have already cut out almost all black tea and coffee, and potatoes - but one of my weaknesses is fish and chips...- and really trying hard on the wheat...). Even so, digestion is so much improved! And I have a B-friend who has been on the diet a few months and she's feeling it's "right" too.(like me, she'd figured out a few things on her own and BTD is spot-on with those feelings we had about certain foods). I still struggle with my chronic fatigue - still not back in the world of work but progress is steady-ish.  

I use semi-skimmed milk and find some times I crave meat more than others - I think this may partly be down to the effects of hormones but have not sat down to analyse it.

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I guessed my non status too....it was the oats that made me sleepy,
But on the bright side, I get artichokes, tomatoes and liquor...my favorite things!  Well, almost.
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Hello all B's!  I am glad to see there are so many!  I have just been scanning the threads for the past few weeks and thought I'd finally join in.

I have been taking nutrition classes in vain for the last 6 months in an attempt to lose 60 lbs when the BTD was mentioned.  I have been off and on for a month, and finally realized when I'm "on" I feel better and when I'm "off" I'm lethargic and depressed.  So here I am.

I have been a semi-vegetarian for a while now and am now wondering, how do you cook meat?  I haven't done it in so long!  I have a lamb steak in the freezer I'd like to try but I don't know what to do with it.

Also, does anyone shop online for their health food needs?  I'd like some web sites to try.
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Hi Anna and a Warm Welcome to another New B!!

Cooking meat... yes, I was a veghead for awhile and it took some time and experimentation to figure out how to cook meat. My husband also wasn't much help as he has been vegetarian since he was 12 (41 now). I tried to remember what meat I liked as a child and would call my mother to find out how she prepared different cuts of meat... many of those recipes were already B friendly so I didn't have to make many substitutions.

Also... a standard cookbook often has cooking basics for different types of meat. I also searched for recipes online and found many great ones that way.

I'm so glad you decided to join us!



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crockpots are a blessing!
just throw everything in, add spices and water.......
all meats turn out tender and juicy.....
the results are always successfull! )


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hidradenitis suppurativa
http://www.answers.com/hidradenitis%20suppurativa

I am glad the BTD has helped your condition!
WelcomeGG!! ))


Where do you find all these great sites?

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Alright, I broke down and had a bagel for breakfast this morning after my original breakfast fell through (don't want to disgust you with the details).  I was nauseated all morning!  One week sans wheat, and already my body can tell the difference.  So when the doctors bought pizza for lunch (I work in a hospital), I had my tuna salad and spelt bread.

Guess who's going to be the most upbeat and energetic this pm?

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Well - we all have days like that
I came home after a VERY stressfull  week hungry like af wolf- and when my mum served swedish meatballs, with cream sauce, ligonjam  and new potatoes- I just couldn´t resist it- felt  so VERY guilty all day and terrible full.
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Hi all you Beautiful B's!  

My husband is a B, and has a BIG sweet tooth. He loves wine gums and other (IMO icky) sweets like that filled with chemicals.

Do you have any suggestions what kind of sweets he can have instead?

Thanks!  


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Fruit by itself is pretty good. Sometimes I mix frozen blueberries with plain yogurt and add a little vegetable glycerine for sweetener with a touch of vanilla extract. I have made cheesecakes using vegetable glycerine instead of sugar that came out pretty good.You can often adapt recipies subsituting for the avoids in them. Gnawty had a recipie for cookies using banannas, rice flour, eggs on the forum a month or 2 ago. You might try the recipie index.
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Hi all you Beautiful B's!  

My husband is a B, and has a BIG sweet tooth. He loves wine gums and other (IMO icky) sweets like that filled with chemicals.  Do you have any suggestions what kind of sweets he can have instead?
Thanks!  


How about dried cranberries with yoghurt coating.  One of our 3 health food stores here have them.  They remind me of the chocolate covered raisins I used to have.  

Also try licorice drops (the soft type).  But check ingredients as some are made with corn syrup (or other non-B ingredients) and not molasses which is a B ingredient.  I eat a brand called Panda - made in Finland, I think and imported to Canada.  

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Thanks for the advice! I'll look into it.

He doesn't like fruit very much (men! ), but maybe I can persuade him to try if I make the fruit a little more "interesting".


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CHOCOLATE !!!!!
- I think you can make homemade winegums......-just substitute the corn sirup with ordinary cane or beet sirup- Haven´t got recipes - but look at the library or at "Panduro hobby"......
Jamie Oliver makes some healthy "gums" with dry fruits like abricots etc put in a blender with a little juice untill very processed- he rolles the fruitpaste out thin, and cut them in funny shapes and dry them untill they are more dry and chewy. I made some for my daughter -she thought they were a nice change for ordinary dry fruit.


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Or add cream...


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fruit leather is great!!
and it s easy to make......just grind the fruit add a bit of water to make it spreadable.......
on a lined baking tray, spread the pure of fruit ,it shouldn t be too soggy or watery........let dry in a dehydrator.......cut into strips and roll them up with the tray linning inbetween....can be serane wrap......enjoy!


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Thanks Lola- I didn´t know it was called fruit leather- but it sounds like the Jamie Oliver stuff-


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yes, indeed......!!!
only this one is real thin.......like leather! )


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Sounds great - and certainly something my husband would like!

Thanks, lola!


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hello everyone in the world of Balance and BEEES. I am just starting now. I have read the book but I feel lost. I don't know how to go grocery shopping for this. I am a B my two year old twins are Bs but my husband is an O. He is easy since I can feed him all the meat and not have to worry about anything. But I still need help. Can I introduce this to my twins? I am lost as so portion sizes substitutions and every thing. What should I do? I want to start as soon as possible. I want to be healthy and definately need to lose weight. I don't know if the 30 day plan in Cook Right for your type is a diet for regular people who want a life style change or for those who want to lose weight.
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Hello famsheikh and welcome to the BTD Way of Life!

Yes, the world of Balance and BEEEs, indeed!  

Which book have you read... Eat Right 4 Your Type or Live Right 4 Your Type? Eat Right is considered the introductory version and will set you well on the path.

I have an O in my household too and it is pretty easy to cook for both, many dishes can be shared. Sure, you can introduce this way of eating to your 2 year-old twins and since the B diet is very balanced, there shouldn't be any problems. Just like with any food and children, watch for reactions to a new food when first introduced.

Grocery shopping is easy once you become familiar with the food lists for the blood types you are shopping for. I made a list of all the foods we could share, especially the beneficials that all 3 blood types in my household shared (unfortunately, not many!) and tried to emphasize those foods in meals that we ate together.

For weight loss, it is recommended that you follow the portion guidelines listed. Also, check the typebase 4 link located in the top left of this page for updated values on food status (beneficial, neutral or avoid).

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welcome!

If you go to the top of the page and click on member centre and get yourself a nice avatar then we can all see what blood type you are and you won't have to type it each time you post.

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Poly there's a link about *AB loves his gummybears*..... very yummi but with
organic stuffs even better..... (yes I know.... just sent my nonnie home )
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I've been on the BTD for 2 weeks and I notice I have more energy and am sleeping better. I'm not feeling bloated after meals and have less gas. I was shocked to find out I was a B, I thought I would be A. I was eating all the wrong foods. Just about everything I was eating is an AVOID.  One thing though, I am hungry all the time! I am eating a lot of Cod & veggies, turkey meatballs, spinach salad w/feta cheese,spelt bread, spelt cereal w/skim milk, walnuts.  Does anyone else find they are more hungry on this diet? I know I'm eating enough calories. I need to lose a bit of weight and don't want to overdo it.

For the first time in my life, I really don't feel like I'm on a diet. I thought it would be hard to give up salsa, corn chips, gaucamole, but I am totally satisfied and eating healthier than ever!
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I've been on the BTD for 2 weeks and I notice I have more energy and am sleeping better. I'm not feeling bloated after meals and have less gas. I was shocked to find out I was a B, I thought I would be A. I was eating all the wrong foods. Just about everything I was eating is an AVOID.  One thing though, I am hungry all the time! I am eating a lot of Cod & veggies, turkey meatballs, spinach salad w/feta cheese,spelt bread, spelt cereal w/skim milk, walnuts.  Does anyone else find they are more hungry on this diet? I know I'm eating enough calories. I need to lose a bit of weight and don't want to overdo it.

For the first time in my life, I really don't feel like I'm on a diet. I thought it would be hard to give up salsa, corn chips, gaucamole, but I am totally satisfied and eating healthier than ever!



I was wondering what brand and where u buy ur spelt bread and spelt cereals ??
I'm in Canada btw ... Thank-u  


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I was wondering what brand and where u buy ur spelt bread and spelt cereals ??
I'm in Canada btw ... Thank-u  
Arrowhead Mills spelt flakes. I can buy them at my regular grocery store and the Health Food Store. My spelt bread is Rudi's Organic Bakery, which I got at the local health food store

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Arrowhead Mills spelt flakes. I can buy them at my regular grocery store and the Health Food Store. My spelt bread is Rudi's Organic Bakery, which I got at the local health food store




Thank-u jax129


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Looks like I can NOT get that bread in Canada ... sigh


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I bought myself a flaker in Germany once......
you could make your own spelt flakes or any flakes you wish with those!
then toast them and you have yourself flakes for breakfast!


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Quoted from lola
I bought myself a flaker in Germany once...


Homebrew Beer supply shops sell them.
I would imagine that companies, like Lehmans.com , can source them as well.



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hello everyone.  This is my first post.  I have had er4yt for quite awhile but I was a vegetarian and it didn't fit.  Fast forward 7 years or so and I now have gone back to eating some meats.  Felt I needed more protein intuitivly after 23 years as a vegetarian.  I picked up LR4YT and yesterday got genotype. All within about 24 hours.  It makes a lot of sense but the more I learn the more confused I get.I wanted to "gather" as much info as possible...hmmm (interesting)  I also joined the gen type board and did the calculations today, not sure if I am a gatherer or nomad.  High on both. But lean a bit more toward gatherer. I am also trying to figure out what to add, what to leave out and I gained a pound yesterday. I deffinetly need more info and more time.  But I actually feel better. I am B+ do not know secreter status and I think I am a gatherer.  I am drinking my grapefruit juice with flaxses oil...Cheers to 2008
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welcome!!
I d try and get tested first to see if you are a secretor or a non secretor, perhaps that will decide your real GT.


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Welcome Heidi Joy!  It's good to see another B, and I agree that your secretor status is the next best step for you.  Congratulations that you are learning about both your blood type and genotype.  Very courageous.  



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Welcome Heidi Joy.  Definitely get your secretor status tested.  It helps to answer some of the uncertainties.


I am B- NON-Sec Explorer; my son is B+ SEC Nomad; my Mother was O+; and my Father was AB-
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thank you for all the welcoming messages.  i do know that I am not RH- as my mother was and since I was her 2nd child I know that she said at my birth they were concerned that I may be. but I was not.  Is that rh+ factor the same as being b+ or are they seperate factors.  I know the book probably explains it all but I am on info overload.  Thanks.
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Is that rh+ factor the same as being b+ or are they seperate factors.

They are the same.



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i am going o get my rh status confirmed (I never have, just anecdotal from my mum,) -as the calculations are swinging all over the place depending on this factor for me.

I am tall, moved/changed careers around allot, warty and different sized breasts, tons of white lines in fingerprints like a nomad..

caffeine can keep me awake, heavy periods like explorer, and nothing really gatherish, but it has come up with a score of 6..

boh D2 fingers are 90mm, both D4 are 85.
torso greater than legs.
non secretor..
spade teeth.
square head.
    

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What about the length of your upper and lower legs/torso, honeybee?



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i used the advanced calculator and i came out to be a gatherer... is the advanced calculator always right??
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I believe that is the method that is 100% right if all your other information is right...were u able to narrow it down without needing you secretor status
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What about the length of your upper and lower legs/torso, honeybee?


Hi Victoria

ok,, upper leg is 16.5, lower is 16, torso is 37.75..

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yes i was actually
which was lucky --> i didnt even have to meausre my torso measurements because all 4 options were gatherer. it just seams weird to be a gatherer thats all because my bottom leg is actually longer than my top leg, and i dont have that "full" body type, myne was the more muscular one!
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thats why i wanted to no if the advanced calculator was always right lol
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lucky ducky haha..I've tried to narrow mine down a million times..but its between nomad and gatherer and i'm just waiting on my secretor status to confirm..I was hoping I could figure it out without knowing it...what do you think of the gather food list-are u happy with it?
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no not really ~ im confused to be honest, i cant get around the whole "was ok on btd" and now is "avoid", or other way around, you no what i mean?? i just dont get it!!!!!!! i need someone to help me out!!
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hmm well I guess..the gtd takes the btd a step further, incorporating more than our blood type and taking into consideration our genes, which further individualizes our diet..thats why some B's can be a nomad, a gatherer, or explorer...some people do just fine on the btd...but by fine tuning our diets to the gtd guidelines we are better enabled to prevent diseases and health issues that our genotypes are prone to...i'm looking at it as I improved on the btd..but I'm not quite there yet..so the gtd might be the last piece to the puzzle clearing up the rest of my health problems and balancing out my body..not sure if that helps at all lol but just my thoughts :O)
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ya thanks that does help a bit,

i just still cannot get over the changes lol, and also how my leg lengths and finger lengths could totally change what foods i could eat.

i think ive done rele rele well on btd, and i cannot imagine getting rid of brocolli, carrots, cauliflower and my newly found kale, same with mozzerela and feta and yogurt.

does anyone else have any suggestions on how to incorporate the two??
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if you have some health issues you need to clear up..you only need to avoid most of those for 3-6 months..with that said you need to make changes and individualize your plan for what best fits you...if you do fine on those foods and are not looking for more weight loss or are facing an illness then I would just follow the moderation rule..however if at some point you become ill or need to lose a few lbs then think of it as you have the resources you can resort to  
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Girls I can really feel your pain....  
I have lost butter, milk and egg plant for ever....
and red peppers and lots of former bennie fruit for the short while 3 months.( Im NOT doing 6 months without all my former goddies as well as chocolate  


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I have not read the geno-type diet book so I can not really comment, but it does worry me that there are so many differences between BTD and GTD.
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Quoted from Henriette Bsec
Girls I can really feel your pain....  
I have lost butter, milk and egg plant for ever....


Maybe not 'forever'... remember, this is an evolving science.  



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please please let it be true...
after all I´m from Scandinavia where we seem to keep the ability use milk( read lactose) so I do feel a bit  

After all I spend my day making new shopping list :
F ex:
Meat :
then I wrote
first the diamond food In dark green
then the bennies light green
then the neutral light yellow
then the black dot food orange
no need to write the toxicx really but they are red
etc for each category
Remember I´m a visual Explorer  
Made me feel much more at ease  


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I was really shocked to be put into the "Gatherer" category.  It's just crazy the way we Bs have been separated out into about 3 categories.  Yes, a whole lot of cheeses have been lost to me.
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Quoted from NewHampshireGirl
It's just crazy the way we Bs have been separated out into about 3 categories.


So do Os and As, but ABs get split into 4 GTs!  



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So do Os and As, but ABs get split into 4 GTs!  



Wow!  I didn't know that.  
Another thing I have noticed is that for the gatherers mutton is beneficial and lamb is a black dot.  When is the last time you saw mutton in the store???  Lamb is all I ever see and I have learned to love my lamb chops.  Just have to cut down on the frequency of those beloved chops, I guess.
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Lamb and mutton are superfoods with diamonds for Gatherers.


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Quoted from Henriette Bsec
please please let it be true...
after all I´m from Scandinavia where we seem to keep the ability use milk( read lactose) so I do feel a bit  

After all I spend my day making new shopping list :
F ex:
Meat :
then I wrote
first the diamond food In dark green
then the bennies light green
then the neutral light yellow
then the black dot food orange
no need to write the toxicx really but they are red
etc for each category
Remember I´m a visual Explorer  
Made me feel much more at ease  


haha, Henriette I smiled when I saw this!
last night I wrote up my temporary list using a visual scale that shows me all foods that are super, neutral, avoid  and/or inbetween these that are common among the gatherer, nomad and explorer..until I know what my type is this is the list i will try use
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Quoted from honeybee
last night I wrote up my temporary list using a visual scale that shows me all foods that are super, neutral, avoid  and/or in between these that are common among the gatherer, nomad and explorer..until I know what my type is this is the list i will try use

You should have left the Nomad foods off of your list, since based on your B- non-secretor status you can't be a Nomad.



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Lamb and mutton are superfoods with diamonds for Gatherers.


That's good!  I double-checked and see I made a mistake.  I'm obviously getting my lists confused with my husband's lists.  I'll have to quit doing that, pronto!!
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It's just crazy the way we Bs have been separated out into about 3 categories.  Yes, a whole lot of cheeses have been lost to me.


But we're all still B's together  

I think of it like another "typing" category... first there were B's... and then there were B  secretors and B non-secretors.... and now there are B gatherers, B explorers, and B nomads. Sure... other blood types are in those groups too but that makes it even more  like an extended family.  



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But we're all still B's together  

I think of it like another "typing" category... first there were B's... and then there were B  secretors and B non-secretors.... and now there are B gatherers, B explorers, and B nomads. Sure... other blood types are in those groups too but that makes it even more  like an extended family.  

Good way of putting it!



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haha, Henriette I smiled when I saw this!
last night I wrote up my temporary list using a visual scale that shows me all foods that are super, neutral, avoid  and/or inbetween these that are common among the gatherer, nomad and explorer..until I know what my type is this is the list i will try use


That's a great idea honeybee !! ... could u copy and paste the the list on here   Cheers



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But we're all still B's together  

I think of it like another "typing" category... first there were B's... and then there were B  secretors and B non-secretors.... and now there are B gatherers, B explorers, and B nomads. Sure... other blood types are in those groups too but that makes it even more  like an extended family.  



That is excellent!  I like being a B and participating on this thread.

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That's a great idea honeybee !! ... could u copy and paste the the list on here   Cheers



Hi lisalea, i cant copy and paste as it is a visual hand-drawn pages  
sorry!

And Don has suggested I leave off the nomad foods- but  only added nomad food that was common super/ neutral or blackdot with both other types..
And the bias is that i have only bothered to list the foods i would eat, ie left off pigs and rabbits and livers for example, as they do not appeal anyaway.

so, for example if i was o try explain my 'logic' of combining the gatherer, nomad and explorer foodlists: you have to imagine the diamonds and black dots too

..in the meats i have super as lamb, goat and turkey, neutral is beef and kangaroo, avoid is duck.

ie, in herbs i have super scaled: curry, garlic, thyme, tumeric
super-neutral is: parsley, coriander, basil, cardamom, paprika
neutral is fennel, rosemary, sage, licorice, lemongrass, nutmeg, oregano
neutral-avoid: chocolate
avoid: allspice cinnamon, pepper, vanilla, clove, cornstarch, caper, anise, dry mustard

this probably makes no sense to anyone but me lol -
it is only temporary until i have my exact Rh status and consequently then genotype

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Quoted from Kristin


But we're all still B's together  

I think of it like another "typing" category... first there were B's... and then there were B  secretors and B non-secretors.... and now there are B gatherers, B explorers, and B nomads. Sure... other blood types are in those groups too but that makes it even more  like an extended family.  



I like that sentiment Kristen.  

Mutton is a diamond super food for my B+ secretor Nomad son and emphasize for me.  Lamb is diamond for me and emphasize for my son.

He doesn’t want to eat baby animals.   He liked the mutton we had on our two trips to India. The regular grocery stores in USA and the on-line meat places only sell lamb.  I’m going to look for a European or Asian store.  But then I’m concerned with how the animals were raised.  I usually buy my meat from Whole Foods or on-line.



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Hi lisalea, i cant copy and paste as it is a visual hand-drawn pages  
sorry!

And Don has suggested I leave off the nomad foods- but  only added nomad food that was common super/ neutral or blackdot with both other types..
And the bias is that i have only bothered to list the foods i would eat, ie left off pigs and rabbits and livers for example, as they do not appeal anyaway.

so, for example if i was o try explain my 'logic' of combining the gatherer, nomad and explorer foodlists: you have to imagine the diamonds and black dots too

..in the meats i have super as lamb, goat and turkey, neutral is beef and kangaroo, avoid is duck.

ie, in herbs i have super scaled: curry, garlic, thyme, tumeric
super-neutral is: parsley, coriander, basil, cardamom, paprika
neutral is fennel, rosemary, sage, licorice, lemongrass, nutmeg, oregano
neutral-avoid: chocolate
avoid: allspice cinnamon, pepper, vanilla, clove, cornstarch, caper, anise, dry mustard

this probably makes no sense to anyone but me lol -
it is only temporary until i have my exact Rh status and consequently then genotype



No worries honeybee, I still luv ya  
I've decided to just make a list of ALL the avoids from Gatherer, Explorer and Nomad in the meantime  
I'm praying for Nomad I think  


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No worries honeybee, I still luv ya  
I've decided to just make a list of ALL the avoids from Gatherer, Explorer and Nomad in the meantime  
I'm praying for Nomad I think  



having all the avoids listed is a good way to start until knowing what your genotype is Lisalea. I decided to also list the superfoods etc so I can then mphasise the common ones for all three..

Nomad definately looks like the more flexible and diverse type! We can still hope!  
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I found a little Euro Market near my HFS.  I asked for mutton not lamb and he took me into the back and showed me the sheep in the freezer, asked me how much I wanted and gave me free spices to cook it in.  He also explained to me how to cook it.  My son made it for dinner tonight.  Absolutely delicious!!!!!  My son cooked it in the oven with vegies that were compliant for us both.


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having all the avoids listed is a good way to start until knowing what your genotype is Lisalea. I decided to also list the superfoods etc so I can then mphasise the common ones for all three..

Nomad definately looks like the more flexible and diverse type! We can still hope!  


So did I actually  
I have the superfoods, diamonds and the big bad AVOIDS


The older I get, the more wide-eyed I become.  
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Hi folks,
I'm new here, and this seems like a good place to say "Hello."
... so hello!!

I'm a B Rh+ Secreter - and 99% sure on being a Nomad. I live in Maine and there seems to be very few BTDers or GTDers from this area (I see NH is represented somewhere on the forum, though).

My difficulty is cold weather and craving those 'comfort' foods. When it's cold out, I don't want my food cold - i.e. salads, and salads seem to be the most efficient way to get sufficient "live foods" consumed daily. I miss milk and cream - cream soups are so warming. ...oh, well...
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Hello there and welcome WoodsWoman and fellow INFPer  

I do feel your pain there... I miss cream and milk, especially for cooking. But I have been thinking of trying some of the rice and nutmilk recipes that have been floating around as a substitute for milk in cooking. Since cream is not listed on the Nomad diet, I am assuming that it is a neutral for now... until directed otherwise... (or my body gives me a clear message that it is not acceptable to ingest).  



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Hi there!!
You know, I didn't look specifically for cream on that list - all other forms of cow milk are avoids (or black dot). I had to go back and look. Time for a minor indulgence - it's just noon here and the temp is up to 20 deg. F. - finally, with below zero temps anticipated tonight.

As a fellow INFP, have you had difficulty staying on the diet without others around who are also interested in it? (Maybe you do have others... if so you are very fortunate!!) I think the GTD is making a difference for me - more results, especially weight wise, than I got with the BTD. Don't get me wrong - BTD improved my life immensely, but it didn't do all I had hoped.

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Well I hear your pain as well  
welcome from an explorer with no milk either
I try to make as many comfort style food as possible
- weather around here doesn´t call for cold food either


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I am confused about my Geno-type. Just got the book on friday and not totally done reading it, but after doing the measurements I appear to be a Gatherer. I was thinking that I was a hunter for sure. I have RA, extreme asthma & allergies to just about everything. Also a lot of nervous energy. Although I want to lose weight,(most people tell me I do not need to) and most of my life I have been a big eater with a  thin build. Gatherers are supposed to be full figured and I am not that either. I am a B+, not sure if I am a secretor yet. After reading ER4YT and noticed that after only a couple days of following it strictly my joint pain was gone! So, I really want to make sure I am doing this the right way. Any thoughts?
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Hi Cindy
a B can never be a hunter
we can only be gatherer, normads and explores



ENFP -naturalist, visual/spatial and musical/verbal/chatty Dane- Mother to DD Emma age 19,
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As a fellow INFP, have you had difficulty staying on the diet without others around who are also interested in it? (Maybe you do have others... if so you are very fortunate!!)
WoodsWoman


No, I have not had difficulty following the BTD... a little more difficulty adjusting to the GTD though...  

We do follow the BTD but at one point there were 3 different blood types with 2 nonnies and 2 secretors in my household. So there were always avoids around.



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Thank you for your help.
  It is weird that I do not fit any of those profiles at all. At least I do not think they sound like me when I read the descriptions.Good thing I have the measurements too.
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Quoted from 2171
Hi folks,
I'm new here, and this seems like a good place to say "Hello."
... so hello!!

I'm a B Rh+ Secreter - and 99% sure on being a Nomad. I live in Maine and there seems to be very few BTDers or GTDers from this area (I see NH is represented somewhere on the forum, though).

My difficulty is cold weather and craving those 'comfort' foods. When it's cold out, I don't want my food cold - i.e. salads, and salads seem to be the most efficient way to get sufficient "live foods" consumed daily. I miss milk and cream - cream soups are so warming. ...oh, well...
WoodsWoman


Welcome, Woodswoman from Maine!  It's extremely cold here today, also.  It's amazing to find someone else who does not like their food cold.  I don't even like cold water and always drink it warm or hot.  Friends always are aghast when they see me warming up the water at the tap so I can drink it.

I'm glad we have this B thread as I feel our forum community might spread out, and perhaps thin out, with the six GenoTypes and I would lose the context of people's thoughts.  I guess at the moment we're all trying to settle into our niches with this genotyping and after that we can talk about lots of other things, too.
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Well.... what other things would you like to talk about, NHG?


I think us B's will always be quirky as ever....  



Bitterly cold here too... and has been since December which is quite unusual along the front range where I live. This is by far the coldest winter I can remember. And lots of snow in the high country... which makes for lots of avalanche warnings too. The mountain run-off is expected to be extreme this year which makes for dangerous rapids in the rivers. Guess I won't go river rafting this year. Or if I do, I'll wait until late in the season when the rivers won't be quite so fast.


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My Nomad husband wants to go rafting with you.  The more dangerous, the better.  He'll have to settle for digging fossils out of the Peace River in central Florida (one of our favorite vacation spots).

We haven't put Mr. Ribbit on the Nomad diet yet, but we have read through the list.  He's pretty happy about it, although he says he absolutely will not give up chocolate for 3-6 months.  It's neat to him how he instinctively "knew" certain things were bad for him, like tomatoes, even though he was allowed them on the BTD.  He's disapointed in the mango status, as he loves, loves, loves them.  The turkey status he laughed it.  "Turkey is a woman's food.  Give me red meat.  Give me blood.  Turkey is not beneficial for me."


ISTJ, BTD since 5/05.  Battling chronic Lyme disease since ~1985.

"Everything is permissible for me, but not everything is beneficial..."  I Corinthians 6:12

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About chocolate - no I won't give it up, at least not entirely, but I have given up coffee in the last two weeks... my favorite hot beverage - Waaahhh!!! Green tea with honey just isn't the same, though I'm beginning to enjoy it. --I allow myself one cup of coffee if I'm eating out, but none at home.

I've found that totally denying myself some particular thing causes me to want it even more. So cutting back is better than cold turkey on things that I have enjoyed and shouldn't have.
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I'm not giving up chocolate, either.  I'm adamant about that!

I'm not sure what else to talk about, Kristin, except maybe the fact I'm excited about discovering two authors I had never known before.  One is "Perfect Love" by Elizabeth Buchan and the other book is "Silent in the Grave" by Deanna Raybourn.  I highly recommend these two books and I shall read more by these authors.

I ate some Gouda cheese last night.  It's hard to eat just a little.
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I'm not giving up chocolate, either.  I'm adamant about that!


Woo Hoo!!! B's around the world unite against the status of chocolate injunction!! So glad to see that other B's feel the same way. We're a feisty bunch!



Today I had a big steaming mug of the most delicioso hot chocolate made with goat's milk and Ghirardelli's sweet ground chocolate. It so frigid outside that when I got home I just had to have some.  So I did.   And it was heaven!  



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Quoted from Kristin


Woo Hoo!!! B's around the world unite against the status of chocolate injunction!! So glad to see that other B's feel the same way. We're a feisty bunch!



Today I had a big steaming mug of the most delicioso hot chocolate made with goat's milk and Ghirardelli's sweet ground chocolate. It so frigid outside that when I got home I just had to have some.  So I did.   And it was heaven!  



Let me join you  as well
However I have noticed that since I gave up on my one and only midmorning-cup of coffee
I don´t eat as much chocolate as I used to  

Well I must admit that right now I have a cup of decaffeinated coffee with whole jersey milk- a bowl of pecan nuts and chocolate
I don´t know why   but I just forgot that I was not supposed to have the decaffeinated coffee and chocolate yet...
There are a few other * dot foods that I won´t leave behind.... Rebellious me

I really think that I´m far healthier after living the BTD way in more than 8 years than a brand-new GTD person who comes from a normal crappy diet...and I have never been a all or nothing girl..

Well we have the most strange winter here...
mainly one low pressure after another keeps hitting Denmark - fairly mild ( 3-8 c and almost no frost) lots of rain and wind... it does feel cold due to the water and wind- and people seem more sick than normal- I guess a summer with much less sun than normal is part of that too.
It is so grey and dark and since I´m out of job right now I find it difficult to really wake up
- I feel more like sitting the sofa reading books, dreaming about what I´m doing in my garden from March on and drinking tea and eating goodies.

At least I have a jumpy Sienna  who needs a good walk every day
and my mum who needs to be taken to the gym 2 a week-( those lazy O´s   )
or I would just become a couch potato




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I'm wondering what's the matter with me!   I have been measured three times and I realize I'm a Nomad, which is fine, but I feel as if I don't care.  I liked the BTD and it worked wonders with my husband who is an A secretor and I'm practically wishing I had never bought the GenoType book.  I'm just plain apathetic about it.  Where is my enthusiasm???  Furthermore, the tenor of this forum has changed and I don't feel so connected.  Boo-hoo.  I don't belong to another forum and I always looked forward to opening up this site every day to see what we can talk about, now.  

Yes, I used to have more enthusiasm.  And this from a very enthusiastic kind of gal.
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If it helps any, I feel somewhat similar....  

I think we B's tend to get lost in the shuffle. I'm not sure why that is... but that's what I feel sometimes....

Have you noticed on the survey by blood type that the B's are the only ones that do not show a marked preference for the GTD? Although a very small sample, I think there is some relevance there but not sure what that means in the scheme of things.

Change brings up many different things for folks, too, and we all have our coping mechanisms. My tendency is to disappear for awhile, and I have alot of stress in my life now which isn't helping cope so much with change.

Regarding lack of enthusiasm... perhaps you are one of the B's that would be better to stick with the BTD? At least half of us are.... so far...

Oh... and something I've noticed on the GTD is that I feel more of a tendency to "cheat" while eating out, as the Nomad plan is more restrictive than what I was eating before. I almost never felt that on the BTD and if avoids came with a meal, I would ignore them or eat only a bite. Now I feel the desire to order  complete avoid meals. It's weird.... a sign of rebellion, I think...


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I'm wondering what's the matter with me!   I have been measured three times and I realize I'm a Nomad, which is fine, but I feel as if I don't care.  I liked the BTD and it worked wonders with my husband who is an A secretor and I'm practically wishing I had never bought the GenoType book.  I'm just plain apathetic about it.  Where is my enthusiasm???  Furthermore, the tenor of this forum has changed and I don't feel so connected.  Boo-hoo.  I don't belong to another forum and I always looked forward to opening up this site every day to see what we can talk about, now.  

Yes, I used to have more enthusiasm.  And this from a very enthusiastic kind of gal.


wow........................................................
that just like totally explained my situation! im waiting to find out my secretor status so until then i have just been sticking to btd, but i dont even no if i want to switch over to gtd, i didnt want my book either!! definately no enthusiam so far....
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Well I went on the BTD from not having tomatos as a B to having them as a Bnonnie to no having them as a Nomad. Kind of messed up my organic gardening hobby of raising heirloom tomatos. I am retooling to specialize in peppers this year, cucumbers, winter squash ,and eggplant which went all the way up to diamond status. A southerner who can't eat collard though! There is no justice. It was bad enough not eating cornbread and grits, socially that is. I don't even miss corn products anymore. I had also got in the habit of avoiding bread so no real biggie there. I actually like the change in status on dairy. The cheese selection is much better. The bean and nuts selection is better to. Not to thrilled with the genotype site so far but I promised to give it a full three months before deciding if cancelling was called for. The nomad forum section is dead, the recipes are often missleading. The sample menus over emphasize dairy and under emphasize meat, turkey, fish, or a wide selection of vegetables. Still I'll give it two more months.

I do regret the splitting up of the B's, I missed being a gather by about 1/16 of an inch on the finger measurements. Just an 1/8 inch difference.
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I'm absolutely stunned by the comments following my note.  Maybe I hit on something, meaning Bs have a little harder time coming to terms with the GenoType Diet.  Why is that?  I feel as Kristen does, a bit of rebellion when I eat out.  I had no trouble eating out before and sticking to the diet.  Now, it's a don't care attitude.  Well, this is not good!  I'm going to have to make up my mind, go back to the BTD or have a complete makeover of mind for the GTD.  

I just don't feel that I fit into any of the GTD categories well enough.  I'm not going to spend all my time complaining.  I just have to make up my mind which diet to follow.

I am so grateful for the feedback regarding this.  Another reason to stick around on this forum.  You all are very special!
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I'm absolutely stunned by the comments following my note.  Maybe I hit on something, meaning Bs have a little harder time coming to terms with the GenoType Diet.  Why is that?  I feel as Kristen does, a bit of rebellion when I eat out.  I had no trouble eating out before and sticking to the diet.  Now, it's a don't care attitude.  Well, this is not good!  I'm going to have to make up my mind, go back to the BTD or have a complete makeover of mind for the GTD.  

I just don't feel that I fit into any of the GTD categories well enough.  I'm not going to spend all my time complaining.  I just have to make up my mind which diet to follow.

I am so grateful for the feedback regarding this.  Another reason to stick around on this forum.  You all are very special!


Glad I'm not the only B that feels whacky. I tested weak for Gatherer and strong for Explorer. Of course the book says this could happen but I don't feel good on either Explorer or Gatherer.



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Focused you need to know if you are a secretor or not and your rh pos or neg status to be sure of your GTD status. Like there is a small difference in the size of my finger on the right versus the left side but the ring finger is longer than the forefinger on each side and my rh is pos. That ruled out explorer thankfully. My ring fingers are just enough longer than my forefingers (consistant over several measureings)to rule out gatherer though my nonsecretor status and family history of diabetes allmost pushed me there.The result is I will probably not sweat an occasional trace of tomato but I will be very vigilant over corn and wheat. Also black dot or not the only chicken I will ever eat is accidental chicken broth(other peoples cooking). Like I said with a couple of exceptions I like the nomad food lists. Beats the heck out of the explorer list though I could probably have adapted to the gatherer list if I had to being a Bnonnie.
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hallo B buddies,

Confused, not fitting in, rebellious..me also, Gah!

I am on the explorer diet, I like the foodlists, But as I have said before I feel after being on the BTD I don't need to d-Tox as much as say a standard chemicalized dieter coming here for the first time- like yousay too Henriette! gee we are good at making our own rules   But if we really want to silence those rowdier less-appealing genes we should be toughen up and comply yes!?

The thing is I liked the rules on BTD, I felt they were achievable, I liked that I could be firm & confident in my choices about food. Now until I feel certain about my Genotype I feel a little bit of a dilution in the impact of GTD for me.-but is this only as i keep comparing to BTD.? It is ironic that the rules were what I probably found most to complain about before! oh contradiction.

Anyhow, keeps us gardeners guessing! I am raising some artichoke seeds and putting in more herbage like rosemary and sage and thyme. Also helping my inherited chilli pepper plants thru a hot but not too dry summer... I have also inherited a lemon tree and a passionfruit vine..yet to see them flower though...

The measuring gave me mixed results, I have not gone back to the book just yet, but when I do I know it will either be explorer or gatherer. Need to schedule it in for someone to help me do those measurements for the 1000th time lol.

I have noticed I am not missing milk, ricotta and buttermilk are really filling that space for me now -NO beer is another story!

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Focused you need to know if you are a secretor or not and your rh pos or neg status to be sure of your GTD status. Like there is a small difference in the size of my finger on the right versus the left side but the ring finger is longer than the forefinger on each side and my rh is pos. That ruled out explorer thankfully. My ring fingers are just enough longer than my forefingers (consistant over several measureings)to rule out gatherer though my nonsecretor status and family history of diabetes allmost pushed me there.The result is I will probably not sweat an occasional trace of tomato but I will be very vigilant over corn and wheat. Also black dot or not the only chicken I will ever eat is accidental chicken broth(other peoples cooking). Like I said with a couple of exceptions I like the nomad food lists. Beats the heck out of the explorer list though I could probably have adapted to the gatherer list if I had to being a Bnonnie.

Thanks Gulfcoastguy,

I am Bneg but don't know secretor status. When looking over the various diets I think that Nomad wuld be the one I would be most comfortable with. Those finger lengths are crucial and I have measured and remeasured. Left D4 is longer than the rest.



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Hello folks

I have mixed feelings about the Genotype too, I feel I have somehow lost some Bness by becoming a Gatherer (I'm more common now  ) but also it has given me some useful information at a time when i had become a bit stuck. And it looks like at least chocolate is ok for me (not that I eat a huge amount).

So I have now started to incorporate some Yerba Mate tea, and celery and Quark...as it turns out  broccoli really doesn't agree with me...So in a way, although it's confusing it's also given me a boost. (I also have the incentive of getting married later this year to try and keep me on track)



8 feb 2008:Weight Loss on GTD so far (without trying): 4 kilos (about 8 lbs - half a stone)
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Woo Hoo Ellie!!!  

You're getting married... congratulations!!

Tell more, please!!!!


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Congratulations, Ellie.  How did you two meet?  What kind of wedding are you planning?
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How it warms my heart to see other B´s (even with different gt) feeling the same as me..
and I agree I don´t think the forum is not the same any more.

How lovely to see  Ellie again  ( I´m a bad girl- havn´t mailed to you   so sorry - been really sad and feeling overwhelmed.

Well I still follow GTD in the way that I use a lot of my new SF/diamond foods... but I have had to add dairy back to my diet... I just got so bad without it.
It is so strange: but if I use the strength test and the foodlist as well as the mental description
I  would be 90 % sure I was nomad - but my weird fingers and rh- = explorer...


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I believe that the Forum will even itself back out in time.  We are in the midst of a transition right now, and that can be  unsettling and confusing.  Some ambivalence is to be expected.  

I am trying to be patient through it all, because I remember childbirth.  The most difficult part for me was the Transition stage between first stage labor (the dilation) and second stage (pushing).  The urge to push, but having to wait until dilation was complete was excruciating!  It felt like it would last forever and I also doubted my ability to handle it.  

I have come to look at all transitions with this memory in mind.  Transitions give people a hard time.  Once we get our footing and have a clear idea of where we are, and what we need to do, then we can just get on with it.    



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I am sticking to the GTD for awhile even though I tested about 50/50 for each diet. But yeah, I am also finding it harder to stick to than the B diet and falling off once in awhile when I wasn't doing any of that on BTD. Maybe because of the lack of dairy and eggs in the Explorer diet, so the foods are being rotated more often and maybe I'm just bored with the same ones coming around so soon again. But I think that the root of the problem with me on the GTD is that I don't have nearly enough information to feel connected to it.


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I read a couple of these posts to my B husband and asked him what he thought.  He said, "I just miss all my old cheeses.  I don't like Brie."


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Henriette, I'm sorry to hear you have been sad, has something happened? I've been bad in emailing you too, although I haven't forgotten about you.

Kristin,New Hampshire Girl, thank you for your wishes. We met through friends really, about 2 months after I moved house! (good move ) ,same age as me, hoping to find out his  blood type soon (he likes meat). The wedding is planned for October - we have to have two - the legal one, & the important one, where our friends and family will come, a friend of mine is going to do a blessing for us, & it's in a beautiful place,  with a lake & mountains all around.(It's mainly a place that has courses, and is run on ecologically friendly & sustainable lines - they grow vegetables, and have some chickens). We have a good local band for the evening.

So can I really make an effort & cut down on wheat products, as part of my effort to look good in the photos (not that I will ever be a stick insect! . The GTD list has given me a few more things to try, so we'll see.

I have managed a few walks this week, in between the rain, there are lots of little paths to explore round here, I have found. If I can do this more regularly this will help too, I hope (I prefer to be out than in a gym).I still miss regular dancing though.

It's good to be back here with the Bs - I like your description of things, Kristin - we are all still Bs underneath all  the other titles!


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I think B's are such a group of individuals who might always feel somewhat disconnected from the rest of people.  It's great being around other B's who understand our quirky natures.  In many ways, I feel akin to blood type B's much like you are extended family.  The different genotypes are just a further expression of our unpredictability and unconventional natures.  

But we're still the B's.  



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I think B's are such a group of individuals who might always feel somewhat disconnected from the rest of people.  It's great being around other B's who understand our quirky natures.  In many ways, I feel akin to blood type B's much like you are extended family.  The different genotypes are just a further expression of our unpredictability and unconventional natures.  

But we're still the B's.  


loved that Victoria - as well as your post about being patient in childbirth...
Well patience and me - I had an emergency c-section when I was just ready to push... so  

Ellie
that sounds so wonderful - it makes me certain that there are somebody out for me as well ... I just need to change positions and maybe dare to love again...

About being sad...
well I think it has to do with being unemployed after graduating with really good results this summer and being really poor -
I like being on my owns- living a simple life-I don´t mind that I´m not rich- but the last months have been too much...- feeling left out of society - that nobody needed me- that I was not worth anything... it just left me completely paralysed - not able to change or do any thing new or different- just wanted to take care of my small family - not go anywhere - so I was not reminded about my situation.Not calling any one - writing any one - just hiding from life - with a book and a cup of tea. At least my mum took me to the gym a few times a week as well as my dog needed walks.

Well I feel much better now ( emotionally ) - I´m ready to change a lot of stuff
- have even started writing a application for my dream job (there is no job right now at the place- but I wanted to make them aware of ME and the possibility of making a job for me there later) It is a very new thing for me - I normally don´t do that kind of stuff- I´m a bit shy and vulnerable when It come to applying for jobs -especially jobs that are not put up/out ... don´t want to be rejected- I always feel hurt- even though I know it is not ME they say no to...
PRIDE - the weakness of a LEO I guess

Any way I guess that be being so sad and vulnerable also made me less positive of GTD... or more correct I felt a bit cheated when I read the book I had expected something else.
- I lacked- like Teri wrote explanations! I feel the book is too simple( to basic) and with lots of repetitions... I guess I was more looking for a LRT type of book- this one seem more like ERT in its "level".
Sure it is well written and very fascinating... but I just would love some more in deep articles/book so I could understand better why the advice are like they are.

Anyway When I first read ERT I was all   and left it on the book shelf for several months- and then returned and was so happy about my B life the last 8 years... so I guess eventual I´ll feel more happy about my explorer life... hey at least I should get old  







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Hi Henriette

No wonder you're struggling - all that work & no result - just to encourage you, my sister struggled last year after moving & now she is really enjoying a new course (being my sister she took on other things as well which she has had to drop at the moment!) and on the whole her kids are happy.She is a single parent still.

And my social life was and is very limited (most of the people I meet are pensioners!  ), and still met a wonderful man, I never thought it would happen.

I'm sure things will look up for you soon, i'm impressed you had the courage to write to the place you want to work in, I'm a coward when it comes to things like that - so I know exactly how you feel.

I think life comes in ebbs & flows, like the sea, now you're seeing the ebb (& it seems to me that looking after your family is a big thing, i hope your daughter is ok at the moment) and soon things will start flowing again. And maybe a rest is just what you have been needing before the next opportunity comes along. xxx


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Henriette, I think being shy doesn't mean you can not also be brave and knowing of what you want goodluck job hunting.

& I am sure you will love your photos no matter Ellie  
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I noticed that the forums had lost some of their appeal for me too, at first when GTD came out, but now they seem to be returning to normal--except that the GTD forum is the most active now.

I also tested stronger for BTD over GTD.  Being a B and Nomad gives me the very viable option of creating a hybrid diet, which I am working on now.  The GTD just didn't feel quite "right" for me, either, but I can use it to expand the BTD.  I have mentioned this in another thread, but I'll repeat it here: my plan is to keep all BTD avoids as avoids, regardless of GTD status; most of the GTD toxins will be considered a sort of "tier 2" avoid list; and finally, from what's left, add the GTD superfoods to the BTD beneficials.  This makes for a bigger "avoid list" for me, but also a bigger "beneficial list".  It's good to be a B Nomad, because otherwise, I might now be able to make such a viable hybrid diet!

One good thing I MUST say about GTD is that it brought to my attention that I am gluten intolerant, and that single insight was worth buying the book, because removing the gluten from my diet has made such a positive difference for me!  Ideally, I should have been able to figure this out on my own, and probably would have eventually, but I guess that's just an example of the Nomad body/mind disconnect.

Henriette, I can feel somewhat of your pain.  I have been unemployed for a long time now myself, and I have been spending a lot of time alone, partly shamed by not being a productive member of society, and partly not feeling energized enough to want a social life.  Like you, I have been content with books, herbal tea, and participating in the forums!  But now, I am finally through the discouragement and depression, and I'm ready and eager to get back out there again.  Give yourself time, and be good to yourself, and your personal sun will be shining brightly again soon!
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Drive 55 and all of you lovely B´s how wonderful it is the be part of this board  
Finally after several sad months I start to feel more happy and optimistic- even today when I had to pay some bills on my netbanking and noticed that my overdraft was - 12 000 dollars I did not get freak out   there is hope and yes the sun will shine again.
I threat my new SF/diamonds ( that was former neutrals) as new bennies.
I must say I can´t give dairy (milk toxic- yoghurt *) or eggs * up- I tried and it doesn´t work for me... but I can use them less- and that is fine with me.






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Quoted from TJ

my plan is to keep all BTD avoids as avoids, regardless of GTD status; most of the GTD toxins will be considered a sort of "tier 2" avoid list; and finally, from what's left, add the GTD superfoods to the BTD beneficials.  This makes for a bigger "avoid list" for me, but also a bigger "beneficial list".  It's good to be a B Nomad, because otherwise, I might now be able to make such a viable hybrid diet!


Sounds quite interesting to combine both BTD/GTD ... AVOID all the avoids and a bigger "beneficial list"  

Would u mind sharing that diet Drive 55
Thanks



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Ellie, the course of your romance sounds wonderful.  I'm predicting a happy marriage for you.

And, Henriette, I feel the same way about the GenoType book.  I was looking forward to an in-depth explanation about this subject and it turned out to be so disappointing to me, overall.  My favorite book, still, is Live Right 4 Your Type.  I was expecting that type of approach in the newest book.  I guess that's my problem, I haven't been convinced to follow GTD.  My mind is like a spinning platter sometimes trying to make sense of this.  Dr. D. is so knowledgeable and I want with all my heart to believe the GTD but it hasn't happened yet.

I'll keep trying........!

I'm glad Henriette, you have come out into the sunlight (so to speak) and your mind is on an upswing path.  A shy person always has a hard road ahead of her/him but I have never given up facing challenges and I hope the same for you.  Your character will grow with each successful attempt for improvement.  That's what I have found.  And, it's hard for you when you don't have a partner by your side cheering you on along the road of life.  I've been lucky that way with a husband who allows me to gain confidence in myself and gives advice when I ask for it.  You have an optimistic nature and that will carry you through.
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Thank you
yes at least I´m optimistic and happy most of the time  
- and I have a lovely family  
as well as a few close good friends that makes me happy
- but it is funny being an ENFP
I´m also a very private person... I guess in many ways I have told you guys more about what I feel than my family/friends... cause they all think of me as this happy, bubbly- strong person who never cries can take care of myself.
It is easier to share private stuff with you guys strange but that is it  :K)

NHG
Thank you for posting your thought about the GTD book... so I´m not the only one   Iwas beginning to think I was just being difficult to please :-/


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Sounds quite interesting to combine both BTD/GTD ... AVOID all the avoids and a bigger "beneficial list"  

Would u mind sharing that diet Drive 55
Thanks



I don't know if that's practical, it's on a 5-page .pdf!  It's for a B-nonnie, too.
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Henriette, you could say difficult to please but I prefer to say we have discriminating tastes.  More high class, doncha think?
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Thank you for posting your thought about the GTD book... so I´m not the only one   Iwas beginning to think I was just being difficult to please


You are not alone. And there are probably a lot of closet dwellers on this one. Dr. D said himself that he was afraid of writing a "weighty tome", which I can understand too. I have never read the LR4YT book but I've heard so many good things about it so I can't imagine that it is too heavy reading for anyone. Maybe I will pick up a copy next time I'm out of town.


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Henriette, you could say difficult to please but I prefer to say we have discriminating tastes.  More high class, doncha think?



Teri do read it I´m certain that you wont be disappointed.


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New Hampshire Girl, thank you, I hope to have a good marriage.

Henriette, I too used to be the strong one of the family, not sharing my feelings, perhaps this comes of being the eldest. I still find it hard to share some things with my family, although I think I am becoming more open about who I am. But it is only with my fiance that i can let the guard down really, because he seems to accept me as I am, the good, bad & the ugly  .Obviously, the time was right.

I think what disappoints me about the book is you can do all the measuring but it seems without knowing at least your blood type, you don't really know.But there are some useful snippets in there,like about the white lines on fingerprints. And it does give me an understanding of why certain vegetables don't agree with me, whereas on BTD these would be ok. And explains my body shape, and the problem with oestregen dominance I had, as well as how my body will store everything given a chance! This may explain why it took me 5 days to get over a local anaesthetic recently (I had a tooth taken out  )

I am also disappointed that you have to pay to join the genotype website, although I've signed up for the free daily email.


8 feb 2008:Weight Loss on GTD so far (without trying): 4 kilos (about 8 lbs - half a stone)
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I am confused about my Geno-type. Just got the book on friday and not totally done reading it, but after doing the measurements I appear to be a Gatherer. I was thinking that I was a hunter for sure. I have RA, extreme asthma & allergies to just about everything. Also a lot of nervous energy. Although I want to lose weight,(most people tell me I do not need to) and most of my life I have been a big eater with a  thin build. Gatherers are supposed to be full figured and I am not that either. I am a B+, not sure if I am a secretor yet. After reading ER4YT and noticed that after only a couple days of following it strictly my joint pain was gone! So, I really want to make sure I am doing this the right way. Any thoughts?


many asthmatics are over breathers or mouth breathers (mouth is for eating and speaking...nose is for breathing and smelling...they hyperventilate...this causes you to lose to much carbon dioxide out of your lungs which cause your bronchial passageways to constrict because the body needs more of this essential gas...check out the Buteyko breathing method and this video for more info

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIc_Vd1-b1o



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Here is another B to add to the group.  I just went out and bought the ERFYT today.  I have heard about this diet a couple of times over the years, but I actually dreamt about it Thursday night (I have premonition dreams all the time) and here I am!  I have struggled my whole life with my weight, I am very overweight, but I am not one to overeat!!  Now, after looking at the book, I was eating all the wrong things.  I am hoping to lose about 80 pounds...of course, not overnight...but would appreciate it if anyone could tell me their success story and if it is possible to lose this weight with diet and exercise (I have a treadmill).  What about the obesity supplements (antistress protocol, liver protocol, and metabolic protocol?  Has anyone taken these supplements and seen positive results?

Looking forward to hearing from you all.  Glad to see that their is a support system.

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Welcome hjb74!!!

There will be others to welcome you here, too.  Glad to have your company as a B, too.    The book you just bought is my favorite one of all.  Dr. D's explanations are just wonderful in this book.  Personally, I think the food lists are easy to follow as there are so many choices Bs can have.  Sorry you have been eating the wrong things but, now, with the right foods according to your blood type perhaps you will be successful in losing weight and feeling good.

I can see this way of eating produces a fresh and clean-looking complexion with no bags developing under the eyes.  You will feel healthy and have energy.  I don't have a weight loss story but there will be others who do.  My problem was a tumor on the thyroid and since this was removed my 40-lb. weight gain has slowly gone down.  Always, I follow my blood type diet and I never let go!

It would be a good idea to find out your secretor status as that is extremely important to know.

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I suggest you buy either the LRFYT book, which is more up to date, than the ERFYT one, (cause it has the secretor issue added, which is important to help you fine tune your diet choices and to follow your protocols, as well), or you take the test in the homepage and decide from the very start which system you would like to follow closely, GTD or BTD, and according to the result, begin your journey to weight loss.
http://www.4yourtype.com/which.asp

you might need your secretor results to determine your GT, but again, you might not need those, depending.

here s more for you to take the plunge, understanding about the secretor issue....
read the tutorial, last lesson mentions this important issue
http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/newbie/1.htm

and here s more on your individuality
Blood Type B Basics: The Blood Type B Individualized Lifestyle.
http://www.4yourtype.com/Typeb_basic.asp
...............................
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXPJuoBIMY
hope I did not overwhelm you with so much info, but there are two ways to reach your goal, and both are excellent!


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Oops, I misread which book it was.   Oh, yes, I agree with Lola that LRFYT is the one to buy.  That's the one I meant in my post above.
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Thanks Lola and NewHampshire Girl.  I appreciate the good thoughts and welcome.

I have been reading the secretor/non secretor part in the Enclyopedia book that I bought also.  I am hesitant at this point to test because I have been a diet soda freak for the past 18 years.  I never drank coffee or tea and used soda for my caffeine.  I have chronic fatigue and I am always tired.  I have decided to give up soda (which is a BIG DEAL for me) and went out and bought a ice tea brewer yesterday and will just drink ice tea, water, and juice.  I guess what I am trying to say is that I am not quite ready to find out if I am a non secretor because then I can't even have tea or coffee!  How can I stay awake all day without one of these things?  My friend, who is also a B, is doing this with me.  She drinks 2 pots of coffee a day and she is afraid to find out too if she can or can not drink coffee.

I think it is going to take baby steps for us to give up our caffeine.  I think if this diet does what I think it will, give me more energy etc, then I will slowly take the caffeinated beverages out of my diet.

Any words of wisdom?
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follow the secretor guidelines, and go from there....
read all you can, the more you find out about your individuality, the better.
anything specific you want to address?


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OMG...
2 pots of coffe A DAY
thats ridiculous
even if she is a secretor... thats just way too much. 1 cup every once in a while is what i wood suggest...
u need to get ur hands on some green tea ASAP
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I am not quite ready to find out if I am a non secretor because then I can't even have tea or coffee!

Any words of wisdom?


Green tea is beneficial for B non-secretors!  Made properly, it is quite delicious.  Don't steep it too long (only about 1 minute) and don't use boiling water.  The water should be removed from the heat before reaching that high temperature.  

Try it hot, or cold!  



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hjb, I'd suggest for you to think about quitting coffee altogether.  Maybe not immediately, but get yourself mentally ready for the change.  If you are having chronic fatigue, stimulants are one of the last things you want to use, because they mask your body's cry for rest!  Fatigue was my number one problem too, and I started seeing small improvements within 2 weeks of starting BTD.  Other big helps for fatigue are B vitamins, and getting to bed early (i.e. before 11 pm, preferably by 10 pm if you can!)

I suggest you look at the link Lola posted to see if BTD or Genotype Diet is better for you.  If weight is a major concern, GTD is most likely what you want/need.

You also mentioned sodas, which are a big no-no for Bs, because they are sweetened with corn syrup (or artificial sweeteners, if diet soda).  I'd stay far away from anything with corn syrup in it.  That stuff gives me migraines!  Seriously, I bet 70% of the BTD benefits I experience are from just eliminating wheat and corn and their derivatives from my diet!  So if you are thinking about easing into BTD or GTD, I'd start by eliminating those first.  That's the hardest part, because they are in so many things.  Once you get used to no wheat/no corn, the rest is a breeze.
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Thanks drive55.  I appreciate the words of wisdom!  I am not the coffee drinker, my friend is.  She gave up after 2 days on the diet.  Her loss!!!  I am so proud that I am not the one who gave up!

Well, today is my 2 week anniversary!  I haven't lost any weight except for 1 pound, but I feel "looser" and have better energy.  I have been strict in following the diet and continue to plan to.  Just hate that food shopping now takes 4 hours because I have to read everything.  Who knew there was corn syrup in a slice of turkey breast?? Geez.  I am gonna have to go organic on a lot of things.

Is there anyone out there that saw weightloss as a pleasant affect of the diet?  How long did it take for you to lose weight?

Another question....kinda of embarressing...but the past couple of days, I have been very...ummm...gassy.  Has anyone experienced this? Is this a side effect?  Is it good or bad?  I am not use to being that way!
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have you thought of doing the secretor test?
read the last lesson of the tutorial as well, the secretor and non issue are there
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Well, today is my 2 week anniversary!  I haven't lost any weight except for 1 pound, but I feel "looser" and have better energy.  I have been strict in following the diet and continue to plan to.  Just hate that food shopping now takes 4 hours because I have to read everything.  Who knew there was corn syrup in a slice of turkey breast?? Geez.  I am gonna have to go organic on a lot of things.


So right.  It's a cheap sweetener and filler, so it's everywhere!

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Is there anyone out there that saw weightloss as a pleasant affect of the diet?  How long did it take for you to lose weight?


As skinny as I am, I lost about 20 pounds over a period of maybe 4 months.  It was too much, so I started eating a bit more dairy, and put 5 of it back on.  5'10", went from 165 to 145 lbs, now at (roughly) 150.

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Another question....kinda of embarressing...but the past couple of days, I have been very...ummm...gassy.  Has anyone experienced this? Is this a side effect?  Is it good or bad?  I am not use to being that way!


It is to be expected.  You are doing some serious remodeling in your gut!  I wouldn't worry about it for now.   You can expect more regularity of BMs too, and, not to be gross, but probably a larger amount of it, too, as your body it taking out the trash, and as you are eating more fiber.
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Any way I guess that be being so sad and vulnerable also made me less positive of GTD... or more correct I felt a bit cheated when I read the book I had expected something else.
- I lacked- like Teri wrote explanations! I feel the book is too simple( to basic) and with lots of repetitions... I guess I was more looking for a LRT type of book- this one seem more like ERT in its "level".
Sure it is well written and very fascinating... but I just would love some more in deep articles/book so I could understand better why the advice are like they are.







I'm happy to see a group of B's. My whole family on my dad's side are B's and we are definitely unique to say the least. I wanted to comment on this about not being positive towards the GTD because of the lack of depth of the reasons.  I too felt this way, but still happy to have the information.  The BTD has changed my life and given me so much energy I'm just happy to follow the BTD.  And I don't even follow it perfectly. I have added more Beer to my life though. lol. Since I'm a Nomad and all.  
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Hi HJB74,

I've read some of your posts about doing the BTD and wanting to hear testimonials from others.  Personally I don't have a good indicator of weight loss for myself because I have severe Crohn's Disease and my weight was always fluctuating.  

My symptoms are pretty much gone now and I have a lot more energy now.  Since I have much more energy and no symptoms (I wasn't in control of my bowels and leaving the house was a risk) I'm always out walking or jogging or something active like that because I feel so good.  B's are the most active so I think by getting into alignment with these proper nutrients I've unleashed that active lion.  

My major symptoms were gone within two weeks and each month I feel more and more active. The more compliant I am the more it shows in my overall attitude and energy.  

I noticed that you are located in Houston, so am I.  I've found that the 99 cent stores carry rice vinegar and pineapple vinegar and all of the good spices for us to use in salad dressings.  I make my own.  Also taking magnesium supplement at night has lessened my severe chocolate & sugar cravings which always added to my problems.  

I hope some of this information is useful to you. Feel free to send me a message.  I can give you more local tips that I've found.  
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happy for you!
congratulations!


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...I have severe Crohn's Disease and my weight was always fluctuating.  

My symptoms are pretty much gone now and I have a lot more energy now.  Since I have much more energy and no symptoms (I wasn't in control of my bowels and leaving the house was a risk) I'm always out walking or jogging or something active like that because I feel so good.  B's are the most active so I think by getting into alignment with these proper nutrients I've unleashed that active lion.  

My major symptoms were gone within two weeks and each month I feel more and more active. The more compliant I am the more it shows in my overall attitude and energy.


How long have you been on BTD?  I have a friend who has Crohn's and is showing interest in BTD, and I'd love to send her your story to encourage her to try it out!
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You Bs just have to go out and produce more Bs!!!  When you are only 5 percent of the population, you're just not going to have as much coverage!

Actually, I'm kind of surprised at how many regular B posters there are.

Just wait, they'll get here.


I also noticed the many Bs out there.  I guess the Nomads are  the "great communicators" as Dr. D says in the Genotype Diet.   

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Oh, i didn't see this until now.  Hi Drive 55,

I've been on the diet for 13 months.  Within 2 weeks my symptoms were gone.  Severe diarrhea then severe constipation.  Mostly constipation.  I still have permanent damage but I can go run errands without worry now.  

I could go on and on...
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I've been on the diet for 13 months.  Within 2 weeks my symptoms were gone.  Severe diarrhea then severe constipation.  Mostly constipation.  I still have permanent damage but I can go run errands without worry now.  

I could go on and on...


Please do!  What about the fatigue?  That is a big complaint for my friend.
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Please do!  What about the fatigue?  That is a big complaint for my friend.


O.k.  you just asked the "great communicator" to go on.. do you understand what this means?

No seriously, I was always constipated. I thought "this is just who I am whatever". Then I gave birth to my son. After having a baby I was not able to get enough sleep, enough socialization, nor enough exercise.

(I did not have help with child care) and then the big symptoms kicked in (blood in stool, severe constipation, attitude and anxiety problems). I just ignored it.  

Things got better as my son got older and slept better.  Then 5 years later I give birth to our daughter. Same cycle starts and then I get suspicious. I started getting books on nutrition and diet. I go thru the whole gammit and just continue to get worse.  She is AB and is always sick. This led to even less sleep. I still didn't have help with childcare.

I made the mistake of trying to do everything by myself and not asking for help so that I could take a nap.  I couldn't sleep very well anyway because I have this strong mommy radar. I'm learning how to turn it off so that I can sleep soundly.  

After her birth I finally went to the doctor. I was diagnosed with the conditions, given medicine and that was it.  I took the medicine a few times (asocol) and it did nothing.  I pitched them and just continued to read and suffer. I knew the conventional doctors would do nothing and I was right.

I knew deep inside it was a more fundamental lifestyle thing  (I don't know how I knew) so I went through The Zone Diet, The Soy Zone, The Atkins, Southbeach, Raw, Vegetarian, Fat Free, Low fat, Cabbage Soup, Dr. Andrew Weil and Carbohydrate Addicts guide, Dr. Phil's books etc.  

I read all of these books and walked away thinking that's interesting and there is some good information here. These doctors are passionate about their science.

I Made little changes as time went on. I did notice that I had a sugar addiction, I did notice a lack of balance in my meals, I did notice food labels and the enormous amount of ingredients listed in our american diets. Whoa! Gross!

So even though I continued to get more sick I was becoming educated about health.

I had acquired many doctors by this time and although they meant well they continued to prescribe medicines and offer a little bit of diet advice that was useless. (except Citrucel)

Then my bm swung the other way. Chronic diarreah.  All of my neighbors and friends would bring over their concoctions for me to try. Everyone was worried. I couldn't go places without fear of accidents. I had already had a few. SOOOO embarrassing.

So the symtoms and cycle were extreme fatigue, lack of good sleep, eat c**p and stimulants to keep going, energy crash and extreme fatigue, eat lots of toxic lectins to keep going, (gotta prove I can handle it all), yell at everyone, break things, slam doors, drink more coffee, eat more starch, finally fall asleep in my clothes reading something on the health benfits of soy, get horrible sleep because I told myself that I didn't eat enough soy that day, go to another catered event, turn yellow because I hadn't had a bm in weeks, get a colonic that I couldn't afford, feel better for about 6 hours, take my aloe vera juice that "aids in digestion", wake up and make salsa with fresh tomatoes that my neighbor grew "because organic is better" then start the cycle again and again.  EEEkkk!

As a B familiar with our BTD list you can probably clearly see my cynicism in the cycle description.  
Meanwhile staying busy with work, performing, kids. I ended up in the hospital with tubes. Then i gave up and prayed.

In a few weeks I met a lady who told me about the BTD and I ordered it online. Then it showed up. I didn't know what blood type I was so I just put it to the side and continued to eat some fast food. (I had given up on health) The next day I checked the mail and my blood type was in there on some paper work. I did not request the material. I didn't know it existed.  Within two weeks my symptoms were almost all gone and the horrible cycle started to stop.  Add magnesium at night and yeah! Better sleep!

You might tell your friend that it probably worked so quickly for me and so dramatically because all of my favorite staple foods were all of my avoids.  I mean ALL.

So there's way too much information for you. I hope it helps your friend.  Sleep/rest is key! Very Very important!
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Thank you, I will certainly pass on that info.  But ew, you were on a SOY diet?  No wonder you were sick!
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Thank you, Stefina, for telling your story.  Your prayers certainly did work when you were told about blood type diet.  I'm so glad you found what could help you and I'm glad you came to this forum.  You've learned a lot via a circuitous route but nonetheless hard lessons learned stay with a person forever!!
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Thank you, I will certainly pass on that info.  But ew, you were on a SOY diet?  No wonder you were sick!


eeewww.. is right.  
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Thank you, Stefina, for telling your story.  Your prayers certainly did work when you were told about blood type diet.  I'm so glad you found what could help you and I'm glad you came to this forum.  You've learned a lot via a circuitous route but nonetheless hard lessons learned stay with a person forever!!

yes...forever. thank you for your thoughts.

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hjb, I'd suggest for you to think about quitting coffee altogether.  Maybe not immediately, but get yourself mentally ready for the change.  If you are having chronic fatigue, stimulants are one of the last things you want to use, because they mask your body's cry for rest!  Fatigue was my number one problem too, and I started seeing small improvements within 2 weeks of starting BTD.  Other big helps for fatigue are B vitamins, and getting to bed early (i.e. before 11 pm, preferably by 10 pm if you can!)

I suggest you look at the link Lola posted to see if BTD or Genotype Diet is better for you.  If weight is a major concern, GTD is most likely what you want/need.

You also mentioned sodas, which are a big no-no for Bs, because they are sweetened with corn syrup (or artificial sweeteners, if diet soda).  I'd stay far away from anything with corn syrup in it.  That stuff gives me migraines!  Seriously, I bet 70% of the BTD benefits I experience are from just eliminating wheat and corn and their derivatives from my diet!  So if you are thinking about easing into BTD or GTD, I'd start by eliminating those first.  That's the hardest part, because they are in so many things.  Once you get used to no wheat/no corn, the rest is a breeze.


Hi Drive
So how is your CFS nowadays?



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I also noticed the many Bs out there.  I guess the Nomads are  the "great communicators" as Dr. D says in the Genotype Diet.   



Hello – some of us B’s are Explorers and others are Gatherers.  We like to talk too.


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Hello – some of us B’s are Explorers and others are Gatherers.  We like to talk too.


Awe.. I didn't mean to leave out my B friends
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Hello – some of us B’s are Explorers and others are Gatherers.  We like to talk too.

Me too - gosh I have reached more than 4000 posts and that is even without all these chatty posts

Thanks for sharing your story Stefina   - interesting  


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Hi Drive
So how is your CFS nowadays?


Much better.  I am a material handler in a warehouse atm!  I work 7 am to 4 pm, and I often am ready for a bike ride or long walk (or even a jog occasionally) when I get home, as long as I got enough sleep the night before!  I must stay strict on the diet though, or the fatigue starts coming back, along with the depression.
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Much better.  I am a material handler in a warehouse atm!  I work 7 am to 4 pm, and I often am ready for a bike ride or long walk (or even a jog occasionally) when I get home, as long as I got enough sleep the night before!  I must stay strict on the diet though, or the fatigue starts coming back, along with the depression.


That's great. I'm much better too. The fatigue was so crushing that I didn't finish high school. (just took a test and started college early so that I could make my own schedule)  

I didn't realize why until the BTD book and Dr.D's description. Just thought it was a personal thing.
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Much better.  I am a material handler in a warehouse atm!  I work 7 am to 4 pm, and I often am ready for a bike ride or long walk (or even a jog occasionally) when I get home, as long as I got enough sleep the night before!  I must stay strict on the diet though, or the fatigue starts coming back, along with the depression.


Congratualtions on the job, Drive...  I wanted to add that Dr. D's Nitricycle really helps to even out my moods.  I am still detoxing, so never know what garbage is being removed, but with some Nitricycle in the body, the moods hold pretty steady so I'm not exploding at people as easily when I get tired or toxic.


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That's great. I'm much better too. The fatigue was so crushing that I didn't finish high school. (just took a test and started college early so that I could make my own schedule)


I'm lucky that I didn't have so much trouble that young.  I was low in energy, but still able to function and complete high school.  I have been wondering lately if my first round of serious, crushing fatigue started after I started nasal steroids.  Not sure, but I think so, and that sort of junk could be the last straw for weakened adrenals.

Another thing to thank mom for is that I didn't eat a lot of "junk" food growing up.  I ate an apple when my peers ate a candy bar or potato chips.  I didn't get into junk food until I got out on my own.   Mom knows best.

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I didn't realize why until the BTD book and Dr.D's description. Just thought it was a personal thing.


Same here.  I was afraid that I would just always be like this.  I never completely gave up looking for a way out, but thank heaven my friend introduced me to BTD.  I was at the end of my rope!  Giving up my efforts to get better would have meant giving up most of my hopes and aspirations, and I would have just died inside if that ever happened.

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Congratulations on the job, Drive...  I wanted to add that Dr. D's Nitricycle really helps to even out my moods.


Thank you!  I don't take Nitricycle, just plain old l-arginine.
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Yeah.. about nasal steroids.  That is interesting. I used them for some time too. I was stuffy at nights. hum..

I was really into junk food. That made things worse however my Crohn's was better then. I didn't get into raw healthy veges into later and they were all the wrong ones.  

I said to myself "geez..at least with the fast food and chips in high school I wasn't this sick"  I just thought "man..this disease has grown because I'm older I guess".  

How could I have known that all of my healthy pure foods were avoids?  Pure lectins.
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Hi fellow B's. I have been on the blood type diet off and on for several years and have been away from the forums for a while.

I don't know my genotype, though. Still have to get the book and read up on that.

My husband is an O, 17 yr old son is a B. We also have a married daugher who is an O. I find that some of the diet is easier to practice if you are an O, given that they have a wider and more easily found range of meats and seafood that for B's in general.

However I think it is a healthy diet and one thing I am really getting serious about is eliminating as much wheat as possible. My 17 yr old son is very sensitive to wheat - would get chronic intentinal problems and our regular doctor just said it was the result of maybe taking some antibiotics, but I knew differently since it was chronic and I figured some type of food allergy may be the reason. When I finally came to this website and we stopped wheat and substitued spelt, his problems pretty much cleared up in very quick order!

I am generally healthy but do sometimes get to be a worrier about what kinds of dread diseases we can contract.  I think following the diet helps you know that you are doing all you can for good healthy life and disease prevention! But I would also like to hear from B's who had chronic problems that stopped or even found that a disease was cured or made less by following the diet.
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Hi fellow B's. I have been on the blood type diet off and on for several years and have been away from the forums for a while.

I don't know my genotype, though. Still have to get the book and read up on that.

My husband is an O, 17 yr old son is a B. We also have a married daugher who is an O. I find that some of the diet is easier to practice if you are an O, given that they have a wider and more easily found range of meats and seafood that for B's in general.

However I think it is a healthy diet and one thing I am really getting serious about is eliminating as much wheat as possible. My 17 yr old son is very sensitive to wheat - would get chronic intentinal problems and our regular doctor just said it was the result of maybe taking some antibiotics, but I knew differently since it was chronic and I figured some type of food allergy may be the reason. When I finally came to this website and we stopped wheat and substitued spelt, his problems pretty much cleared up in very quick order!

I am generally healthy but do sometimes get to be a worrier about what kinds of dread diseases we can contract.  I think following the diet helps you know that you are doing all you can for good healthy life and disease prevention! But I would also like to hear from B's who had chronic problems that stopped or even found that a disease was cured or made less by following the diet.
Joyce

Hi Joyce again
Well September 1st it will be 9 years since I started
- as you can see I don´t really follow GTD much- has found it horrible difficult to adjust to Explorerness
But what has BTD done to me? :
well first of all my cronic eczema on hands, arms and feet has cleared up.
It is so rare that  I see it today.
No more ear aches- used to be around 3-4 pr year.
no more  problems with diarrea and constipation- I used to switch between those.

and I have lost aprox 15-20 kg- needs to loose more( 10 kg or so) but that is fine with me.
and I am almost never sick- it is so rare that I get down with something.




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Hi Henriette: Good to hear from you and glad that you have been finding good health with the blood type diet. I too have not (luckily) had any major health issues. As I said, I do not know my genotype and I figure that just following the blood type diet itself is enough of an effort.

How compliant are you? I feel that we are about 80% or so compliant on the diet. This summer, I am making a very big effort to avoid or eliminate wheat. It is hard in the American diet because so much has wheat even as an additive. We try to eat at home as much as possible and also cook using natural ingredients.

I wish I had more time for my hobbies - I love to sew and quilt, and this time of year, I love to garden.  My Dad is 88 and also a B and he has always been an avid gardener.  His Mom who I am pretty sure was also a B lived to about 93.  I am also going to try to make more time for sewing and quilting. As a B, I need those gentle pleasures in my life to keep balanced I think!

Take care.
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I can relate to wishing for more creativity time Joyce

I thougth I would check in as I am just kicking a 2nd cold of this winter   After 3 years of not coming down with anything on the BTD this has been quite suprise, as a consequence I am going back to B nonnie lists and emphasis on gatherer superfoods- like you Henriette  

I found a small bottle of wildcrafted oregano oil I have been having 4 drops, twice a day and it has been excellent.
Licorice and anise tea also.
I am amazed with the oregano oil- has been a fighter!
As this is my 3rd day of cold/flu, it has eased up very nicely.
Highly recommend this oil for other B nonnies.
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But I would also like to hear from B's who had chronic problems that stopped or even found that a disease was cured or made less by following the diet.
Joyce


I'm half B...  I am still getting better, but there are many issues that are getting better with first the AB, now the Warrior diet.  I had "allergy based" chronic fatigue - bad enough to be disabling.  It was becoming impossible to work (live) around perfumes, laser printers - the toner fumes, common cleaning chemicals, etc.  I was getting pneumonia very frequently - 3 times in the year prior to finding this diet.  My digestion / filtering / elimination systems was breaking down.  

I had asked several practitioners (MD and alternative) for help, but when I got sick going into their offices and they couldn't tell me anything I didn't already know, it wasn't productive.

Finding this diet has been a lifesaver!  I've been following it for about 2 1/2 years, and while I am still clearing out years of garbage that the body wasn't healthy enough to remove, I am at least removing it.  This means that much of the pain still exists as the junk is removed and body heals, but it is healing.  The more healing that completes, the faster the process goes, so my outlook keeps getting brighter because as the supplementation changes due to organs no longer needing help, I can tell that they are healthy and we move on to others that need it.

I am at a constant detox stage now where we are supporting the filters and using some detox protocol.  I don't know how long this will take, but am generally exstatic with the progress to date.


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Hi Henriette: Good to hear from you and glad that you have been finding good health with the blood type diet. I too have not (luckily) had any major health issues. As I said, I do not know my genotype and I figure that just following the blood type diet itself is enough of an effort.

How compliant are you? I feel that we are about 80% or so compliant on the diet. This summer, I am making a very big effort to avoid or eliminate wheat. It is hard in the American diet because so much has wheat even as an additive. We try to eat at home as much as possible and also cook using natural ingredients.

I wish I had more time for my hobbies - I love to sew and quilt, and this time of year, I love to garden.  My Dad is 88 and also a B and he has always been an avid gardener.  His Mom who I am pretty sure was also a B lived to about 93.  I am also going to try to make more time for sewing and quilting. As a B, I need those gentle pleasures in my life to keep balanced I think!

Take care.
Joyce


Joyce I think that is very true.
the last 5 months I have been working too much and I have had almost no time for my garden, sewing ( yes I love that as well etc.
Just managed to read a few books and spend time on the internet  
- so now I have asked for a change in my work load- cause it just doesn´work for me- gets irritated and frustrated.
My granny another B  died at 94 and she just loved working it the garden and knitting and cooking- I remember her when her back was completely wrecked still fooling around in her huge garden with a hoe as a stick   she basically died when she was put in old peoples home at 93 - where she couldn´t do a thing except watch telly and cook

Well I would say I am more than 95 % complient on the B diet
( I do eat about 1 oz organic bacon or ham pr week- might eat a tiny tomato or avocado)  that is about it)
I eat pretty pure real food so I don´t get any weird fillers and additives
And I bake all my bread, cookies etc so it is wheat free and even worse vegetable oil free.

- some former B avoids do pop in after they have become super/diamond foods on Explorer diet- like artichokes and lentils
And I can eat them without any side effects.( so maybe I am just a weak secretor ?)

So I would say I still eat my B diet and do no worry about some foods beeing degraded on the Explorer diet( like eggs, dairy and some fruits)  but I have changed so I eat more of some former neutrals that has become superfoods
- like peas, lettuce, apples etc.

Since I still want to loose weight - I am going slow on the B grains
- I do eat spelt, quinoa, rice, millet and oats - but mainly in the weekends and I try to eat max 1 serving.
I would say at the moment I eat a fairly high fat  ( olive oil/ghee/cheese/dairy, chocolate) diet with lots of veggies, some fruits (2 -3 pr day) and 1-2 medium servings of fish or meat( mainly neutral) pr day and it is working for me
- In the weekend I eat more basic B diet( with wine - a little sugar, maybe juice and grains)- that way I can control my cravings for cakes e c and I loose weight  

I tried the genotype - but I must be some weird "rebel" b type explorer
- cause I did not feel better- just worse   and it was so restricted for me
- since it was VERY different from a B secretor diet.
I decided it was not worth it- but I am sure that others can benefit from it...
and yes I am an explorer- no doubt about that...

well I need to work this afternoon - so I better stop- going into the garden and enjoy some B time  










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colojd, here is my story.

The Bad News
I have always been a bit emotionally thin-skinned, but as a teen it started becoming depression.  I was officially diagnosed with depression at age 21.  I tried Paxil, Remeron, some mood stabilizer whose name I don't recall (usually for bipolar disorder), Wellbutrin, Prozac, and finally a combination of Wellbutrin and Prozac.  None of them helped, as far as I can tell.  It's tricky to know, because I cycled up and down through depressive episodes.

I excelled in school, without really trying, but in my 20s I found it was get hard to stay focused (i.e. brain fog).  I was diagnosed then with ADD, even though I was never hyperactive (quite the contrary, actually).  I tried Ritalin, which upset my stomach badly, and Dexadrine, which helped at first, but then only allowed me to push myself harder than I should, thereby depleting my already-scarce energy reserves.  When I quit taking it the last time, I slept 10-12 hours per night, plus 2-4 hour nap in the daytime, for about 3 weeks, while recovering from that effect.

Like I implied above, fatigue was a big problem.  I think the fatigue was the biggest reason for the depression--I was depressed because I was always so tired.  This would cycle, too, with my "depression".  I'd have bouts of it where it was serious exertion just to remain standing for 10 minutes.

Tied in with the depression and fatigue is the sleep.  When I'd sleep, I would have trouble getting to sleep, but once asleep, I'd sleep soundly.  But it was a rare morning for me to wake up feeling rested!

Since my childhood, my blood sugar has been flaky.  If I didn't eat frequently I'd get headaches, moody, shaky, and even light-headed.  I had headaches a lot, usually related to blood sugar but not always.

I have arthritis in my neck and in my lower back.  One of my lumbar vertebrae is malformed and gets out of place very easily, and has been grinding down the disk below it until it's very thin.  By the time I was in my late 20s, I needed regular adjustments to keep the pain manageable, and to keep being able to move around (or walk, in one instance).

The Good News
About two weeks after starting BTD, I noticed that I'd been waking up feeling like I'd actually slept!  I began feeling more energy, and more motivation and hope.  I found I was able to think more clearly, and to stay on-task longer (this is very important for the boring, redundant job I'm doing right now )  I started losing extra body fat/water retention (about 35 lbs. total over the last year), and a few months in, I even noticed that my athlete's foot had cleared up.  I'd had it for years, and it was in my toenail, too.

I've noticed that I haven't had a single episode with my hypoglycemia since starting BTD--even while fasting!  Strong chemical smells, bright lights, loud noises, big crowds, and obnoxious people don't get to me nearly as much now as before--my "skin" is thicker for both emotional and physical irritants.  I can even drive my car on a bright sunny day without sunglasses now, without it giving me a headache from the eye strain.

I actually stopped all my meds before I found out about the BTD, because it was finally obvious to me that they weren't helping, and I was worried that I might be suffering from the side effects (including the empty wallet effect they cause ).  I've had some ups and downs even since I've been on the BTD, but I've been much more able to deal with them.  In a way, those downs have motivated me to press forward in search of more things I could do to improve my health.

Another unexpected benefit I've enjoyed is an amazing decrease in my back and neck pain.  The anti-inflammatory nature of the BTD has reduced the frequency of my chiropractor visits (also saving me time and money) while increasing the effectiveness of those adjustments.  I rarely have headaches anymore, either.  It's a rare occasion for me to need any pain medicine, and I used to use them a few times per week at least.

In the year since I started BTD, I have gone from sickly, weak, unemployed, and unable to hold to a job, to a normally functioning adult.  I still feel my limitations, and I still have to be very careful about balancing myself, but I also see the ongoing improvement and healing I am enjoying.  BTD was the start of a series of lifestyle changes I've made to get better, and by far the most important one.  Without BTD (and now GTD) as a foundation for my health, the other steps I've taken would have only slowed down the steady decline my health was experiencing.
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My seasonal allergies have diminished noticeably.  I used to have to take Benadryl every day during the bad seasons.  Now I get a little bit stuffy, but that’s all.  I only resort to the Benadryl when I am overwhelmed with certain flowers or perfumes.  


As for compliance, I’m like Henriette, if a food was good for me on the B diet but downgraded on the Explorer diet and I feel no ill effects from it, then I’ll eat it.


About 2 weeks ago I started trying to lose 15 lbs I gained because I couldn’t exercise for awhile from a knee injury.  I’m attempting to cut back on my grains, which is a weakness for me.


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woow...drive 55 what a statement!!!

I only can say that the AB nonniediet (2   ) was and still is my lifesaver ......and I'll stick to it ....

all symptoms of weakness are gone since...I feel better than loooong ago .....ok...the only thing what still
is struggle...my weight but this is merely coz I don't like to do anything which sounds or renifles like sports...


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Thanks drive 55 what a statement..!
I forgot - just like Redlilac my seasonal allergies has diminished a lot !


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Yeah, I also took prescription meds for allergies, pretty much all year round.  I used prescription nasal spray for chronic sinusitis.  They didn't help a lot, but BTD did.
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drive 55 I am sure that all those psychomeds were  just for nada...it was merely negative in not being able to work with you very toughy N-side which is mostly the ++++ for you...all the B's   we mustn't get adjusted by society with such medication only coz we are done in a different way .....
but then we have to learn to protect ourselves for not being that permeable to other's energies..... isn't that called *
delimitation* ... ......
BTD food helped me here tremendiously.....to stay safely with it

btw....the insight of needing more l'arginine as well  


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Yep, we sure are different, and we need to guard our personal boundaries zealously--type Bs and Ns both.  The arginine does seem to be a great help to me.
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I know this is a very old post but I'm a new"b" and just starting out on my journey.  Nice to see a few b's about as I've seen predominantly O's and A's.  It's funny people mentioning the trends in B's and I can identify with those  
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Hi Anemone  


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Welcome Anemone!  Did you read this whole thread?  If so, you've definitely got the staying power to make it on this diet!!  



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Hi Lola, Henriette, Victoria and Gulfcoastguy  

To Victoria - I haven't read all of the posts but a lot of them and from what I see B's seem to share a quirkiness and in some ways appear quite wayward and tread their own paths slowly in their own time with determination (thats me  )  I don't like to be rushed!  Also I'm extremely curious and like to know the ins and outs of everything, sometimes to obsession.

I'm relatively new to this diet and this forum and looking forward to learning more and seeing results.  Just out of interest, how long after starting the diet did you all notice a substantial change in how you felt and before you experience optimal results?

For me, I immediately felt more chilled out and even a bit floaty in the first couple of days/weeks.  I think that is my body adjusting to the radical  change in diet, I went all out and eliminated just about most avoids (probably too much at once and decided to slow it down a bit as I felt strange (not enough carbs probably).  I just kind of felt all light and not quite with it as if everything slowed right down.  I don't know why but I feel like I could cut all grains out and instinctively think I would do better without them but know that it wouldnt be healthy to eat just veg carbs and protein.
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Aha, so THIS is where the Bs are all hanging out!    
I've been looking EVERYWHERE for you people! We're so outnumbered here.  

I have been reading the book and following the program pretty well for the last few weeks.  The only meat I ever ate previously was chicken (thought I was making a good choice) and that is gone now.  I tried vegetarian for about 6 months for my cholesterol, but my last check-up showed no improvement at all (in fact, it went up a few points!)  It looks like I will be eating more red meat on this - beef and lamb (never had lamb before in my life - should be interesting - guess I'll throw it in the crockpot with some veggies) and turkey.  (Some of the other beneficial "B" meats seem a little bizarre to me -- uh, turtle?.)

I do have some concern regarding my cholesterol though.  It's 237, and my doctor tells me it should be under 200 (and of course is pushing me to go on statins, which I am fighting).  I do remember reading in the BT book that "normal" cholesterol is 200-220, which is higher than what the doctors tell you (but of course, they just want to prescribe meds    so I am feeling a lot better about my number - especially since the rest of my lipid panel is excellent.

Anyway, I am enjoying reading this forum, and learning a lot!

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By eliminating the lectins and following portion size and frequency, your body should balance the lipid numbers to a good number for you.  

I realize 237 may be a bit high, but it doesn't mean much without knowing the ratio of LDL/HDL.  This is really where you tell whether there is a problem.


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I have a simple, great tasting, fairly inexpensive way to cook lamb.  I usually buy shoulder chops.  The secret with lamb is buying cuts as fresh as possible.  Don't buy near the expiration date.  

Sprinkle salt, curry powder and fresh rosemary from my garden on both sides.  
Saute at a fairly high heat for a few minutes on each side.

It is best pretty pink inside, IMO.  Well done lamb is tougher and not as tasty.
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Aha, so THIS is where the Bs are all hanging out!    
I've been looking EVERYWHERE for you people! We're so outnumbered here.  
...
Anyway, I am enjoying reading this forum, and learning a lot!

Rene


The "B & Individuality" thread was so long, it was split into two (parts I and II) after a matter of months.

Thread I (9 pages) ran from 3/5/05 to 10/20/05 and can be accessed here:
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-gold/m-1110066247/

Thread II (25 pages and counting) ran from 10/24/05 to the present (still going strong) and can be accessed here:
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-lr4yt/m-1130191808/s-0/

Admittedly the emphasis is somewhat more social and less minutely dietarily focused than your "Testimonial" and ingredient-concerns indicate.
But if you want to gather round a B campfire, that's where it's always happening.


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