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hjb, I'd suggest for you to think about quitting coffee altogether.  Maybe not immediately, but get yourself mentally ready for the change.  If you are having chronic fatigue, stimulants are one of the last things you want to use, because they mask your body's cry for rest!  Fatigue was my number one problem too, and I started seeing small improvements within 2 weeks of starting BTD.  Other big helps for fatigue are B vitamins, and getting to bed early (i.e. before 11 pm, preferably by 10 pm if you can!)

I suggest you look at the link Lola posted to see if BTD or Genotype Diet is better for you.  If weight is a major concern, GTD is most likely what you want/need.

You also mentioned sodas, which are a big no-no for Bs, because they are sweetened with corn syrup (or artificial sweeteners, if diet soda).  I'd stay far away from anything with corn syrup in it.  That stuff gives me migraines!  Seriously, I bet 70% of the BTD benefits I experience are from just eliminating wheat and corn and their derivatives from my diet!  So if you are thinking about easing into BTD or GTD, I'd start by eliminating those first.  That's the hardest part, because they are in so many things.  Once you get used to no wheat/no corn, the rest is a breeze.
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Thanks drive55.  I appreciate the words of wisdom!  I am not the coffee drinker, my friend is.  She gave up after 2 days on the diet.  Her loss!!!  I am so proud that I am not the one who gave up!

Well, today is my 2 week anniversary!  I haven't lost any weight except for 1 pound, but I feel "looser" and have better energy.  I have been strict in following the diet and continue to plan to.  Just hate that food shopping now takes 4 hours because I have to read everything.  Who knew there was corn syrup in a slice of turkey breast?? Geez.  I am gonna have to go organic on a lot of things.

Is there anyone out there that saw weightloss as a pleasant affect of the diet?  How long did it take for you to lose weight?

Another question....kinda of embarressing...but the past couple of days, I have been very...ummm...gassy.  Has anyone experienced this? Is this a side effect?  Is it good or bad?  I am not use to being that way!
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Well, today is my 2 week anniversary!  I haven't lost any weight except for 1 pound, but I feel "looser" and have better energy.  I have been strict in following the diet and continue to plan to.  Just hate that food shopping now takes 4 hours because I have to read everything.  Who knew there was corn syrup in a slice of turkey breast?? Geez.  I am gonna have to go organic on a lot of things.


So right.  It's a cheap sweetener and filler, so it's everywhere!

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Is there anyone out there that saw weightloss as a pleasant affect of the diet?  How long did it take for you to lose weight?


As skinny as I am, I lost about 20 pounds over a period of maybe 4 months.  It was too much, so I started eating a bit more dairy, and put 5 of it back on.  5'10", went from 165 to 145 lbs, now at (roughly) 150.

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Another question....kinda of embarressing...but the past couple of days, I have been very...ummm...gassy.  Has anyone experienced this? Is this a side effect?  Is it good or bad?  I am not use to being that way!


It is to be expected.  You are doing some serious remodeling in your gut!  I wouldn't worry about it for now.   You can expect more regularity of BMs too, and, not to be gross, but probably a larger amount of it, too, as your body it taking out the trash, and as you are eating more fiber.
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Any way I guess that be being so sad and vulnerable also made me less positive of GTD... or more correct I felt a bit cheated when I read the book I had expected something else.
- I lacked- like Teri wrote explanations! I feel the book is too simple( to basic) and with lots of repetitions... I guess I was more looking for a LRT type of book- this one seem more like ERT in its "level".
Sure it is well written and very fascinating... but I just would love some more in deep articles/book so I could understand better why the advice are like they are.







I'm happy to see a group of B's. My whole family on my dad's side are B's and we are definitely unique to say the least. I wanted to comment on this about not being positive towards the GTD because of the lack of depth of the reasons.  I too felt this way, but still happy to have the information.  The BTD has changed my life and given me so much energy I'm just happy to follow the BTD.  And I don't even follow it perfectly. I have added more Beer to my life though. lol. Since I'm a Nomad and all.  
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Hi HJB74,

I've read some of your posts about doing the BTD and wanting to hear testimonials from others.  Personally I don't have a good indicator of weight loss for myself because I have severe Crohn's Disease and my weight was always fluctuating.  

My symptoms are pretty much gone now and I have a lot more energy now.  Since I have much more energy and no symptoms (I wasn't in control of my bowels and leaving the house was a risk) I'm always out walking or jogging or something active like that because I feel so good.  B's are the most active so I think by getting into alignment with these proper nutrients I've unleashed that active lion.  

My major symptoms were gone within two weeks and each month I feel more and more active. The more compliant I am the more it shows in my overall attitude and energy.  

I noticed that you are located in Houston, so am I.  I've found that the 99 cent stores carry rice vinegar and pineapple vinegar and all of the good spices for us to use in salad dressings.  I make my own.  Also taking magnesium supplement at night has lessened my severe chocolate & sugar cravings which always added to my problems.  

I hope some of this information is useful to you. Feel free to send me a message.  I can give you more local tips that I've found.  
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...I have severe Crohn's Disease and my weight was always fluctuating.  

My symptoms are pretty much gone now and I have a lot more energy now.  Since I have much more energy and no symptoms (I wasn't in control of my bowels and leaving the house was a risk) I'm always out walking or jogging or something active like that because I feel so good.  B's are the most active so I think by getting into alignment with these proper nutrients I've unleashed that active lion.  

My major symptoms were gone within two weeks and each month I feel more and more active. The more compliant I am the more it shows in my overall attitude and energy.


How long have you been on BTD?  I have a friend who has Crohn's and is showing interest in BTD, and I'd love to send her your story to encourage her to try it out!
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You Bs just have to go out and produce more Bs!!! When you are only 5 percent of the population, you're just not going to have as much coverage!

Actually, I'm kind of surprised at how many regular B posters there are.

Just wait, they'll get here.


I also noticed the many Bs out there.  I guess the Nomads are  the "great communicators" as Dr. D says in the Genotype Diet.   

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Oh, i didn't see this until now.  Hi Drive 55,

I've been on the diet for 13 months.  Within 2 weeks my symptoms were gone.  Severe diarrhea then severe constipation.  Mostly constipation.  I still have permanent damage but I can go run errands without worry now.  

I could go on and on...
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I've been on the diet for 13 months.  Within 2 weeks my symptoms were gone.  Severe diarrhea then severe constipation.  Mostly constipation.  I still have permanent damage but I can go run errands without worry now.  

I could go on and on...


Please do!  What about the fatigue?  That is a big complaint for my friend.
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Please do!  What about the fatigue?  That is a big complaint for my friend.


O.k.  you just asked the "great communicator" to go on.. do you understand what this means?

No seriously, I was always constipated. I thought "this is just who I am whatever". Then I gave birth to my son. After having a baby I was not able to get enough sleep, enough socialization, nor enough exercise.

(I did not have help with child care) and then the big symptoms kicked in (blood in stool, severe constipation, attitude and anxiety problems). I just ignored it.  

Things got better as my son got older and slept better.  Then 5 years later I give birth to our daughter. Same cycle starts and then I get suspicious. I started getting books on nutrition and diet. I go thru the whole gammit and just continue to get worse.  She is AB and is always sick. This led to even less sleep. I still didn't have help with childcare.

I made the mistake of trying to do everything by myself and not asking for help so that I could take a nap.  I couldn't sleep very well anyway because I have this strong mommy radar. I'm learning how to turn it off so that I can sleep soundly.  

After her birth I finally went to the doctor. I was diagnosed with the conditions, given medicine and that was it.  I took the medicine a few times (asocol) and it did nothing.  I pitched them and just continued to read and suffer. I knew the conventional doctors would do nothing and I was right.

I knew deep inside it was a more fundamental lifestyle thing  (I don't know how I knew) so I went through The Zone Diet, The Soy Zone, The Atkins, Southbeach, Raw, Vegetarian, Fat Free, Low fat, Cabbage Soup, Dr. Andrew Weil and Carbohydrate Addicts guide, Dr. Phil's books etc.  

I read all of these books and walked away thinking that's interesting and there is some good information here. These doctors are passionate about their science.

I Made little changes as time went on. I did notice that I had a sugar addiction, I did notice a lack of balance in my meals, I did notice food labels and the enormous amount of ingredients listed in our american diets. Whoa! Gross!

So even though I continued to get more sick I was becoming educated about health.

I had acquired many doctors by this time and although they meant well they continued to prescribe medicines and offer a little bit of diet advice that was useless. (except Citrucel)

Then my bm swung the other way. Chronic diarreah.  All of my neighbors and friends would bring over their concoctions for me to try. Everyone was worried. I couldn't go places without fear of accidents. I had already had a few. SOOOO embarrassing.

So the symtoms and cycle were extreme fatigue, lack of good sleep, eat c**p and stimulants to keep going, energy crash and extreme fatigue, eat lots of toxic lectins to keep going, (gotta prove I can handle it all), yell at everyone, break things, slam doors, drink more coffee, eat more starch, finally fall asleep in my clothes reading something on the health benfits of soy, get horrible sleep because I told myself that I didn't eat enough soy that day, go to another catered event, turn yellow because I hadn't had a bm in weeks, get a colonic that I couldn't afford, feel better for about 6 hours, take my aloe vera juice that "aids in digestion", wake up and make salsa with fresh tomatoes that my neighbor grew "because organic is better" then start the cycle again and again.  EEEkkk!

As a B familiar with our BTD list you can probably clearly see my cynicism in the cycle description.  
Meanwhile staying busy with work, performing, kids. I ended up in the hospital with tubes. Then i gave up and prayed.

In a few weeks I met a lady who told me about the BTD and I ordered it online. Then it showed up. I didn't know what blood type I was so I just put it to the side and continued to eat some fast food. (I had given up on health) The next day I checked the mail and my blood type was in there on some paper work. I did not request the material. I didn't know it existed.  Within two weeks my symptoms were almost all gone and the horrible cycle started to stop.  Add magnesium at night and yeah! Better sleep!

You might tell your friend that it probably worked so quickly for me and so dramatically because all of my favorite staple foods were all of my avoids.  I mean ALL.

So there's way too much information for you. I hope it helps your friend.  Sleep/rest is key! Very Very important!
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Thank you, I will certainly pass on that info.  But ew, you were on a SOY diet?  No wonder you were sick!
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Thank you, Stefina, for telling your story.  Your prayers certainly did work when you were told about blood type diet.  I'm so glad you found what could help you and I'm glad you came to this forum.  You've learned a lot via a circuitous route but nonetheless hard lessons learned stay with a person forever!!
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Thank you, I will certainly pass on that info.  But ew, you were on a SOY diet?  No wonder you were sick!


eeewww.. is right.  
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Thank you, Stefina, for telling your story.  Your prayers certainly did work when you were told about blood type diet.  I'm so glad you found what could help you and I'm glad you came to this forum.  You've learned a lot via a circuitous route but nonetheless hard lessons learned stay with a person forever!!

yes...forever. thank you for your thoughts.

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hjb, I'd suggest for you to think about quitting coffee altogether.  Maybe not immediately, but get yourself mentally ready for the change.  If you are having chronic fatigue, stimulants are one of the last things you want to use, because they mask your body's cry for rest!  Fatigue was my number one problem too, and I started seeing small improvements within 2 weeks of starting BTD.  Other big helps for fatigue are B vitamins, and getting to bed early (i.e. before 11 pm, preferably by 10 pm if you can!)

I suggest you look at the link Lola posted to see if BTD or Genotype Diet is better for you.  If weight is a major concern, GTD is most likely what you want/need.

You also mentioned sodas, which are a big no-no for Bs, because they are sweetened with corn syrup (or artificial sweeteners, if diet soda).  I'd stay far away from anything with corn syrup in it.  That stuff gives me migraines!  Seriously, I bet 70% of the BTD benefits I experience are from just eliminating wheat and corn and their derivatives from my diet!  So if you are thinking about easing into BTD or GTD, I'd start by eliminating those first.  That's the hardest part, because they are in so many things.  Once you get used to no wheat/no corn, the rest is a breeze.


Hi Drive
So how is your CFS nowadays?



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I also noticed the many Bs out there.  I guess the Nomads are  the "great communicators" as Dr. D says in the Genotype Diet.   



Hello some of us Bs are Explorers and others are Gatherers.  We like to talk too.


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Hello some of us Bs are Explorers and others are Gatherers.  We like to talk too.


Awe.. I didn't mean to leave out my B friends
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Hello – some of us B’s are Explorers and others are Gatherers.  We like to talk too.

Me too - gosh I have reached more than 4000 posts and that is even without all these chatty posts

Thanks for sharing your story Stefina   - interesting  


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Hi Drive
So how is your CFS nowadays?


Much better.  I am a material handler in a warehouse atm!  I work 7 am to 4 pm, and I often am ready for a bike ride or long walk (or even a jog occasionally) when I get home, as long as I got enough sleep the night before!  I must stay strict on the diet though, or the fatigue starts coming back, along with the depression.
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Much better.  I am a material handler in a warehouse atm!  I work 7 am to 4 pm, and I often am ready for a bike ride or long walk (or even a jog occasionally) when I get home, as long as I got enough sleep the night before!  I must stay strict on the diet though, or the fatigue starts coming back, along with the depression.


That's great. I'm much better too. The fatigue was so crushing that I didn't finish high school. (just took a test and started college early so that I could make my own schedule)  

I didn't realize why until the BTD book and Dr.D's description. Just thought it was a personal thing.
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Much better.  I am a material handler in a warehouse atm!  I work 7 am to 4 pm, and I often am ready for a bike ride or long walk (or even a jog occasionally) when I get home, as long as I got enough sleep the night before!  I must stay strict on the diet though, or the fatigue starts coming back, along with the depression.


Congratualtions on the job, Drive...  I wanted to add that Dr. D's Nitricycle really helps to even out my moods.  I am still detoxing, so never know what garbage is being removed, but with some Nitricycle in the body, the moods hold pretty steady so I'm not exploding at people as easily when I get tired or toxic.


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That's great. I'm much better too. The fatigue was so crushing that I didn't finish high school. (just took a test and started college early so that I could make my own schedule)


I'm lucky that I didn't have so much trouble that young.  I was low in energy, but still able to function and complete high school.  I have been wondering lately if my first round of serious, crushing fatigue started after I started nasal steroids.  Not sure, but I think so, and that sort of junk could be the last straw for weakened adrenals.

Another thing to thank mom for is that I didn't eat a lot of "junk" food growing up.  I ate an apple when my peers ate a candy bar or potato chips.  I didn't get into junk food until I got out on my own.   Mom knows best.

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I didn't realize why until the BTD book and Dr.D's description. Just thought it was a personal thing.


Same here.  I was afraid that I would just always be like this.  I never completely gave up looking for a way out, but thank heaven my friend introduced me to BTD.  I was at the end of my rope!  Giving up my efforts to get better would have meant giving up most of my hopes and aspirations, and I would have just died inside if that ever happened.

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Congratulations on the job, Drive...  I wanted to add that Dr. D's Nitricycle really helps to even out my moods.


Thank you!  I don't take Nitricycle, just plain old l-arginine.
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Yeah.. about nasal steroids.  That is interesting. I used them for some time too. I was stuffy at nights. hum..

I was really into junk food. That made things worse however my Crohn's was better then. I didn't get into raw healthy veges into later and they were all the wrong ones.  

I said to myself "geez..at least with the fast food and chips in high school I wasn't this sick"  I just thought "man..this disease has grown because I'm older I guess".  

How could I have known that all of my healthy pure foods were avoids?  Pure lectins.
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