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Ellie
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Henriette, I'm sorry to hear you have been sad, has something happened? I've been bad in emailing you too, although I haven't forgotten about you.

Kristin,New Hampshire Girl, thank you for your wishes. We met through friends really, about 2 months after I moved house! (good move ) ,same age as me, hoping to find out his  blood type soon (he likes meat). The wedding is planned for October - we have to have two - the legal one, & the important one, where our friends and family will come, a friend of mine is going to do a blessing for us, & it's in a beautiful place,  with a lake & mountains all around.(It's mainly a place that has courses, and is run on ecologically friendly & sustainable lines - they grow vegetables, and have some chickens). We have a good local band for the evening.

So can I really make an effort & cut down on wheat products, as part of my effort to look good in the photos (not that I will ever be a stick insect! . The GTD list has given me a few more things to try, so we'll see.

I have managed a few walks this week, in between the rain, there are lots of little paths to explore round here, I have found. If I can do this more regularly this will help too, I hope (I prefer to be out than in a gym).I still miss regular dancing though.

It's good to be back here with the Bs - I like your description of things, Kristin - we are all still Bs underneath all  the other titles!


8 feb 2008:Weight Loss on GTD so far (without trying): 4 kilos (about 8 lbs - half a stone)
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I think B's are such a group of individuals who might always feel somewhat disconnected from the rest of people.  It's great being around other B's who understand our quirky natures.  In many ways, I feel akin to blood type B's much like you are extended family.  The different genotypes are just a further expression of our unpredictability and unconventional natures.  

But we're still the B's.  



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Let me not pass you by in quest
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Quoted from Victoria
I think B's are such a group of individuals who might always feel somewhat disconnected from the rest of people.  It's great being around other B's who understand our quirky natures.  In many ways, I feel akin to blood type B's much like you are extended family.  The different genotypes are just a further expression of our unpredictability and unconventional natures.  

But we're still the B's.  


loved that Victoria - as well as your post about being patient in childbirth...
Well patience and me - I had an emergency c-section when I was just ready to push... so  

Ellie
that sounds so wonderful - it makes me certain that there are somebody out for me as well ... I just need to change positions and maybe dare to love again...

About being sad...
well I think it has to do with being unemployed after graduating with really good results this summer and being really poor -
I like being on my owns- living a simple life-I don┤t mind that I┤m not rich- but the last months have been too much...- feeling left out of society - that nobody needed me- that I was not worth anything... it just left me completely paralysed - not able to change or do any thing new or different- just wanted to take care of my small family - not go anywhere - so I was not reminded about my situation.Not calling any one - writing any one - just hiding from life - with a book and a cup of tea. At least my mum took me to the gym a few times a week as well as my dog needed walks.

Well I feel much better now ( emotionally ) - I┤m ready to change a lot of stuff
- have even started writing a application for my dream job (there is no job right now at the place- but I wanted to make them aware of ME and the possibility of making a job for me there later) It is a very new thing for me - I normally don┤t do that kind of stuff- I┤m a bit shy and vulnerable when It come to applying for jobs -especially jobs that are not put up/out ... don┤t want to be rejected- I always feel hurt- even though I know it is not ME they say no to...
PRIDE - the weakness of a LEO I guess

Any way I guess that be being so sad and vulnerable also made me less positive of GTD... or more correct I felt a bit cheated when I read the book I had expected something else.
- I lacked- like Teri wrote explanations! I feel the book is too simple( to basic) and with lots of repetitions... I guess I was more looking for a LRT type of book- this one seem more like ERT in its "level".
Sure it is well written and very fascinating... but I just would love some more in deep articles/book so I could understand better why the advice are like they are.

Anyway When I first read ERT I was all   and left it on the book shelf for several months- and then returned and was so happy about my B life the last 8 years... so I guess eventual I┤ll feel more happy about my explorer life... hey at least I should get old  







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Hi Henriette

No wonder you're struggling - all that work & no result - just to encourage you, my sister struggled last year after moving & now she is really enjoying a new course (being my sister she took on other things as well which she has had to drop at the moment!) and on the whole her kids are happy.She is a single parent still.

And my social life was and is very limited (most of the people I meet are pensioners!  ), and still met a wonderful man, I never thought it would happen.

I'm sure things will look up for you soon, i'm impressed you had the courage to write to the place you want to work in, I'm a coward when it comes to things like that - so I know exactly how you feel.

I think life comes in ebbs & flows, like the sea, now you're seeing the ebb (& it seems to me that looking after your family is a big thing, i hope your daughter is ok at the moment) and soon things will start flowing again. And maybe a rest is just what you have been needing before the next opportunity comes along. xxx


8 feb 2008:Weight Loss on GTD so far (without trying): 4 kilos (about 8 lbs - half a stone)
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Henriette, I think being shy doesn't mean you can not also be brave and knowing of what you want goodluck job hunting.

& I am sure you will love your photos no matter Ellie  
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I noticed that the forums had lost some of their appeal for me too, at first when GTD came out, but now they seem to be returning to normal--except that the GTD forum is the most active now.

I also tested stronger for BTD over GTD.  Being a B and Nomad gives me the very viable option of creating a hybrid diet, which I am working on now.  The GTD just didn't feel quite "right" for me, either, but I can use it to expand the BTD.  I have mentioned this in another thread, but I'll repeat it here: my plan is to keep all BTD avoids as avoids, regardless of GTD status; most of the GTD toxins will be considered a sort of "tier 2" avoid list; and finally, from what's left, add the GTD superfoods to the BTD beneficials.  This makes for a bigger "avoid list" for me, but also a bigger "beneficial list".  It's good to be a B Nomad, because otherwise, I might now be able to make such a viable hybrid diet!

One good thing I MUST say about GTD is that it brought to my attention that I am gluten intolerant, and that single insight was worth buying the book, because removing the gluten from my diet has made such a positive difference for me!  Ideally, I should have been able to figure this out on my own, and probably would have eventually, but I guess that's just an example of the Nomad body/mind disconnect.

Henriette, I can feel somewhat of your pain.  I have been unemployed for a long time now myself, and I have been spending a lot of time alone, partly shamed by not being a productive member of society, and partly not feeling energized enough to want a social life.  Like you, I have been content with books, herbal tea, and participating in the forums!  But now, I am finally through the discouragement and depression, and I'm ready and eager to get back out there again.  Give yourself time, and be good to yourself, and your personal sun will be shining brightly again soon!
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Drive 55 and all of you lovely B┤s how wonderful it is the be part of this board  
Finally after several sad months I start to feel more happy and optimistic- even today when I had to pay some bills on my netbanking and noticed that my overdraft was - 12 000 dollars I did not get freak out   there is hope and yes the sun will shine again.
I threat my new SF/diamonds ( that was former neutrals) as new bennies.
I must say I can┤t give dairy (milk toxic- yoghurt *) or eggs * up- I tried and it doesn┤t work for me... but I can use them less- and that is fine with me.






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Quoted from TJ

my plan is to keep all BTD avoids as avoids, regardless of GTD status; most of the GTD toxins will be considered a sort of "tier 2" avoid list; and finally, from what's left, add the GTD superfoods to the BTD beneficials.  This makes for a bigger "avoid list" for me, but also a bigger "beneficial list".  It's good to be a B Nomad, because otherwise, I might now be able to make such a viable hybrid diet!


Sounds quite interesting to combine both BTD/GTD ... AVOID all the avoids and a bigger "beneficial list"  

Would u mind sharing that diet Drive 55
Thanks



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Ellie, the course of your romance sounds wonderful.  I'm predicting a happy marriage for you.

And, Henriette, I feel the same way about the GenoType book.  I was looking forward to an in-depth explanation about this subject and it turned out to be so disappointing to me, overall.  My favorite book, still, is Live Right 4 Your Type.  I was expecting that type of approach in the newest book.  I guess that's my problem, I haven't been convinced to follow GTD.  My mind is like a spinning platter sometimes trying to make sense of this.  Dr. D. is so knowledgeable and I want with all my heart to believe the GTD but it hasn't happened yet.

I'll keep trying........!

I'm glad Henriette, you have come out into the sunlight (so to speak) and your mind is on an upswing path.  A shy person always has a hard road ahead of her/him but I have never given up facing challenges and I hope the same for you.  Your character will grow with each successful attempt for improvement.  That's what I have found.  And, it's hard for you when you don't have a partner by your side cheering you on along the road of life.  I've been lucky that way with a husband who allows me to gain confidence in myself and gives advice when I ask for it.  You have an optimistic nature and that will carry you through.
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Thank you
yes at least I┤m optimistic and happy most of the time  
- and I have a lovely family  
as well as a few close good friends that makes me happy
- but it is funny being an ENFP
I┤m also a very private person... I guess in many ways I have told you guys more about what I feel than my family/friends... cause they all think of me as this happy, bubbly- strong person who never cries can take care of myself.
It is easier to share private stuff with you guys strange but that is it  :K)

NHG
Thank you for posting your thought about the GTD book... so I┤m not the only one   Iwas beginning to think I was just being difficult to please :-/


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Quoted from Lisalea
Sounds quite interesting to combine both BTD/GTD ... AVOID all the avoids and a bigger "beneficial list"  

Would u mind sharing that diet Drive 55
Thanks



I don't know if that's practical, it's on a 5-page .pdf!  It's for a B-nonnie, too.
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Henriette, you could say difficult to please but I prefer to say we have discriminating tastes.  More high class, doncha think?
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Thank you for posting your thought about the GTD book... so I┤m not the only one   Iwas beginning to think I was just being difficult to please


You are not alone. And there are probably a lot of closet dwellers on this one. Dr. D said himself that he was afraid of writing a "weighty tome", which I can understand too. I have never read the LR4YT book but I've heard so many good things about it so I can't imagine that it is too heavy reading for anyone. Maybe I will pick up a copy next time I'm out of town.


I'm onto you, 'euphoria'
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Henriette, you could say difficult to please but I prefer to say we have discriminating tastes.  More high class, doncha think?



Teri do read it I┤m certain that you wont be disappointed.


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New Hampshire Girl, thank you, I hope to have a good marriage.

Henriette, I too used to be the strong one of the family, not sharing my feelings, perhaps this comes of being the eldest. I still find it hard to share some things with my family, although I think I am becoming more open about who I am. But it is only with my fiance that i can let the guard down really, because he seems to accept me as I am, the good, bad & the ugly  .Obviously, the time was right.

I think what disappoints me about the book is you can do all the measuring but it seems without knowing at least your blood type, you don't really know.But there are some useful snippets in there,like about the white lines on fingerprints. And it does give me an understanding of why certain vegetables don't agree with me, whereas on BTD these would be ok. And explains my body shape, and the problem with oestregen dominance I had, as well as how my body will store everything given a chance! This may explain why it took me 5 days to get over a local anaesthetic recently (I had a tooth taken out  )

I am also disappointed that you have to pay to join the genotype website, although I've signed up for the free daily email.


8 feb 2008:Weight Loss on GTD so far (without trying): 4 kilos (about 8 lbs - half a stone)
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I am confused about my Geno-type. Just got the book on friday and not totally done reading it, but after doing the measurements I appear to be a Gatherer. I was thinking that I was a hunter for sure. I have RA, extreme asthma & allergies to just about everything. Also a lot of nervous energy. Although I want to lose weight,(most people tell me I do not need to) and most of my life I have been a big eater with a  thin build. Gatherers are supposed to be full figured and I am not that either. I am a B+, not sure if I am a secretor yet. After reading ER4YT and noticed that after only a couple days of following it strictly my joint pain was gone! So, I really want to make sure I am doing this the right way. Any thoughts?


many asthmatics are over breathers or mouth breathers (mouth is for eating and speaking...nose is for breathing and smelling...they hyperventilate...this causes you to lose to much carbon dioxide out of your lungs which cause your bronchial passageways to constrict because the body needs more of this essential gas...check out the Buteyko breathing method and this video for more info

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIc_Vd1-b1o



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Here is another B to add to the group.  I just went out and bought the ERFYT today.  I have heard about this diet a couple of times over the years, but I actually dreamt about it Thursday night (I have premonition dreams all the time) and here I am!  I have struggled my whole life with my weight, I am very overweight, but I am not one to overeat!!  Now, after looking at the book, I was eating all the wrong things.  I am hoping to lose about 80 pounds...of course, not overnight...but would appreciate it if anyone could tell me their success story and if it is possible to lose this weight with diet and exercise (I have a treadmill).  What about the obesity supplements (antistress protocol, liver protocol, and metabolic protocol?  Has anyone taken these supplements and seen positive results?

Looking forward to hearing from you all.  Glad to see that their is a support system.

Hope
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Welcome hjb74!!!

There will be others to welcome you here, too.  Glad to have your company as a B, too.    The book you just bought is my favorite one of all.  Dr. D's explanations are just wonderful in this book.  Personally, I think the food lists are easy to follow as there are so many choices Bs can have.  Sorry you have been eating the wrong things but, now, with the right foods according to your blood type perhaps you will be successful in losing weight and feeling good.

I can see this way of eating produces a fresh and clean-looking complexion with no bags developing under the eyes.  You will feel healthy and have energy.  I don't have a weight loss story but there will be others who do.  My problem was a tumor on the thyroid and since this was removed my 40-lb. weight gain has slowly gone down.  Always, I follow my blood type diet and I never let go!

It would be a good idea to find out your secretor status as that is extremely important to know.

Again, welcome!
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I suggest you buy either the LRFYT book, which is more up to date, than the ERFYT one, (cause it has the secretor issue added, which is important to help you fine tune your diet choices and to follow your protocols, as well), or you take the test in the homepage and decide from the very start which system you would like to follow closely, GTD or BTD, and according to the result, begin your journey to weight loss.
http://www.4yourtype.com/which.asp

you might need your secretor results to determine your GT, but again, you might not need those, depending.

here s more for you to take the plunge, understanding about the secretor issue....
read the tutorial, last lesson mentions this important issue
http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/newbie/1.htm

and here s more on your individuality
Blood Type B Basics: The Blood Type B Individualized Lifestyle.
http://www.4yourtype.com/Typeb_basic.asp
...............................
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXPJuoBIMY
hope I did not overwhelm you with so much info, but there are two ways to reach your goal, and both are excellent!


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Oops, I misread which book it was.   Oh, yes, I agree with Lola that LRFYT is the one to buy.  That's the one I meant in my post above.
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Thanks Lola and NewHampshire Girl.  I appreciate the good thoughts and welcome.

I have been reading the secretor/non secretor part in the Enclyopedia book that I bought also.  I am hesitant at this point to test because I have been a diet soda freak for the past 18 years.  I never drank coffee or tea and used soda for my caffeine.  I have chronic fatigue and I am always tired.  I have decided to give up soda (which is a BIG DEAL for me) and went out and bought a ice tea brewer yesterday and will just drink ice tea, water, and juice.  I guess what I am trying to say is that I am not quite ready to find out if I am a non secretor because then I can't even have tea or coffee!  How can I stay awake all day without one of these things?  My friend, who is also a B, is doing this with me.  She drinks 2 pots of coffee a day and she is afraid to find out too if she can or can not drink coffee.

I think it is going to take baby steps for us to give up our caffeine.  I think if this diet does what I think it will, give me more energy etc, then I will slowly take the caffeinated beverages out of my diet.

Any words of wisdom?
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follow the secretor guidelines, and go from there....
read all you can, the more you find out about your individuality, the better.
anything specific you want to address?


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Thanks Lola!  
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OMG...
2 pots of coffe A DAY
thats ridiculous
even if she is a secretor... thats just way too much. 1 cup every once in a while is what i wood suggest...
u need to get ur hands on some green tea ASAP
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I am not quite ready to find out if I am a non secretor because then I can't even have tea or coffee!

Any words of wisdom?


Green tea is beneficial for B non-secretors!  Made properly, it is quite delicious.  Don't steep it too long (only about 1 minute) and don't use boiling water.  The water should be removed from the heat before reaching that high temperature.  

Try it hot, or cold!  



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