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Melissa_J
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It's neutral for O secretors, avoid for O non-secretors, so paulam should be ok with it.


Type O+ blogger, secretor afterall. Gluten intolerant. With two gluten intolerant sons:  A+ Secretor 10 yo (also fructose intolerant and slightly egg allergic), and  O- 7yo.
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Hi folks,

We O's (especially O-nonnies) don't seem to metabolize oils very well ... this likely includes any kind of oil ... the liquidy stuff.  The only exception seems to be when you'd like to burn some extra solid fat.  Then these omega-3 oils can disolve the fats (something like water disolving ice cubes).  At ketosis-time (winter) our mitochondria use these fats for fuel ... hot, hot!  Using with it some L-carnitne and calcium pyruvate will shift this oil mix to burn.

Omega-3's (fish oils) are also an important structural part of all membranes.  [While other blood types thrive of evening primrose oil or black currant seed oil or borage oil ... these are all omega-6 oils.  Even flax oil or hemp oil (both high in omega-3's) will not be assimilated by this O-nonnie.]  To get them into membranes ... the most important place because just one of the jobs here is their anti-depressive effects ... is to have them 'complexed'.  This usually means eating the fish and not just the extracted oil.  Both B vitamins and sulphur-containing foods really help here. [A little taurine-zinc combo helps too.]

The difficulty for many is getting the proper ratio ... for you personally.  The usual is 4Tbsp of omega-6:1 Tbsp of omega-3 (ALA):1 tsp of omega-3's (fish oils) each day.  Individuals can vary wildly for their personal needs.  In "The Omega-3 Phenomenon" D. Rudin shows you how to achieve this balance.  As far as depression may be involved here, you may want to read 'Immunity and Mental Health" by Charles Bates.

hope this helps..........


John


The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

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I'm inspired that the BTD may help lessen some of my obsessive compulsive tendencies.  
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jul,
it surely helps!


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For us O's, exercise really is essential. I feel a difference when I fit it in.....
but for me the key is not to do too  much too soon, have to learn to build up to
it and be consistent....
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That was the major thing for me and still is in a way, depression.  If I don't get enough meat protein or sugar I get depressed.  Lately I have found that eating a lot of protein keeps me from getting down after eating chocolate for some reason.  I stay feeling good.  
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being a nonnie, it was the sugar in chocolate that gave you a 'down' feeling.

adding fat and the protein, gives you a longer feeling of wellbeing.....


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Quoted from lola
being a nonnie, it was the sugar in chocolate that gave you a 'down' feeling.

adding fat and the protein, gives you a longer feeling of wellbeing.....


Thanks for keeping me on the track of high protein so I could stay out of depression.
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''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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The harder you are on yourself, the easier life will be on you!
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debs
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i've been taking rhodiola rosea for depression.However i am having trouble with bad constipation & more recently back pain.whilst i may have pulled a muscle though dont know how i think the back pain is aggravated by the constipation.i'm drinking lots of water plus herbal tea. i've stewed my own prunes i've eaten fruit.i take linseed & even tried pinto beans & all i get is wind.i feel so 'bunged up' i'm wondering if i was to eat a little rice it might help but i have eaten grains for so long now i'm wary of doing so. last tuesday was the 1st time in four weeks i ate some.it was some lemon cake my mum had made. whilst i did enjoy it i didnt really want it at the same time but it was because i just felt & still do so frustrated at lack of weight loss & constipation too.


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do you have a juicer?

beet, celery,carrot and ginger will speed up your diggestion! )


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for depression u may want ppl check out hydration therapy by Foreydoon Batmanghelidj M.D. Juicing is similar to hydrating


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Make sure she is eating (preferably grass fed) beef a few times per week. The L-tyrosine in beef helps regulate dopamine in O's. It is also found in wheat but of course that is off our diet.

Prior to BTD, I ate nearly no beef and had given up wheat knowing something was wrong with me and thought it might be a wheat intolerance. My dopamine levels apparently were very low and were boosted almost immediately when adding beef. I felt much more energized and motivated as opposed to a sluggish fish swimming upstream in a state of confusion. Tough to admit, I felt depressed eating a healthy, whole foods, organic diet, it was just the wrong diet!

Giving up wheat is a great thing, just make sure she gets her beef in to keep those dopamine levels regulated.

Lisa


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Then this past October I tried the O nonnie plan and ditched grains and legumes.  

Two weeks into the nonnie diet and being wheat-free, the constant pain was beginning to fade. Two months later, I started walking for exercise--and enjoying it--for the first time in ten years. Best of all, the anxiety attacks started to fade away, and the depression began to lift--slowly, but it still receded a little every day. I didn't realize wheat was causing the attacks until I had a small serving of bread stuffing at Thanksgiving and woke up that night with my first panic attack in over a month. The link between eating the bread and the attack was very clear. I've noticed since then that any time I eat a grain-based dish or bread (with the exception of rice), my heart races, I have shortness of breath, and inevitably a panic or anxiety attack. And I thought I was just going crazy!



Brighid,

I see that your Blood Type shield shows you an a Secretor. Are you still eating as nonnie or have you gone back to the secretor foods. I understand also that this thread was resurrected from 2005, perhaps SWAMI was not around then?

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Many foods trigger mood swings for me: crying spells, irritability, yelling, or just general blah-ness.

 It is strange to realize the effect food has on you, but at least once you figure it out, you can keep it in line.  That's the good news, though when you're stuck in the bad news, that good news seems like an upside down fairy tale.

I've reached a point where the only thing I expect from my food is pure fuel, no more is it a reward or a consolation prize or anything like that.  Hopefully I can keep that outlook on it, and keep a nourishing mindset about the whole deal.  If I think in any other way, then I cheat and pay big time for it.


Melissa - Well said!

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No, SWAMI wasn't around then, but this thread was resurrected at a very good time, it seems to me. So many seem to be depressed these days. I have been noticing it for the last two or three weeks. Sometimes the blues can sort of take over, and we can't see the forest for the trees!!


"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." -- Benjamin Franklin
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I used to be very depressed, especially on special occasions. Could not understand why. I then saw a program relating to sugar and depression. I used to be a sugar addict. My consumption would increase on special occasions. I slowly got off the sugar and started to feel better. With the blood type diet I now only get small bouts of it when I am hormonal.


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Has someone already said to get a t least or about 30 mins outside during the daylight hours to get a bit of vitamin D and not to be in a rush to wash it off too quickly.


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I've had chronic clinical depression my whole life.  I do best with daily sunlight, tons of animal protein, moderate amounts of exercise well really nearly daily- I need to be in motion a lot- and lots of fats from a variety of sources.  I also find sleeping is important, I feel better the earlier I go to sleep and do not allow myself to be a "night person".  I fast daily and eat more some days and less others with an emphasis on reduced meal frequency- I'm not a grazer.  So for Os a fairly primal Hunter/Gatherer type lifestyle is the key to curing depression.
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I lived with depression all my life and it's such a terrifying, hopeless dark hole! When I got into the BTD, I realized that I was living on a diet of 90% avoids!  No wonder my body chemistry was upside down!

The BTD immediately helped, but it wasn't until I completely eliminated wheat and actually all gluten, that I discovered life without depression.  And yes, as others have said, sugar (even in small amounts) will kick my emotional legs out from under me.



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Like Victoria.....Since eliminating gluten (it's been 6+ years), my depression totally lifted.  Even following the BTD for more than 2 decades, nothing impacted my mood in a negative way as much
as gluten.  I think mental health professionals should be aware of the way gluten impacts the brain.

http://glutendoctors.blogspot.com/2009/04/gluten-sensitivity-and-depression-on.html


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I have dealt with depression before.  The most important action people can take is supplement the B vitamins.  If it still persists you should look into changing the way in which you think of your life and the world around you.  Actually treating the mind was more important for me.
Suggested reading:
The Road Less Traveled by Scott Beck
Buddhism Plain and Simple by Steven Hagen
Myth and Religion by Alan Watts
Understanding A Course in Miracles by D. Patrick Miller

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Quoted from Johnny B.
I have dealt with depression before.  The most important action people can take is supplement the B vitamins.  If it still persists you should look into changing the way in which you think of your life and the world around you.  Actually treating the mind was more important for me.
Suggested reading:
The Road Less Traveled by Scott Beck
Buddhism Plain and Simple by Steven Hagen
Myth and Religion by Alan Watts
Understanding A Course in Miracles by D. Patrick Miller



You can eat all of the best foods for yourself in the world, but yes, the mind is powerful and can be an ally or a foe. Having appreciation is most important no matter what the circumstances. Doesn't mean that it's easy but it keeps it real. Great reminder!  

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A B12 deficiency can cause depression.

http://www.b12deficiency.org/


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Great Thread, surprised it isn't longer!

I have told my story many times other places, suffice to say I've been doing the diet pretty much since the first book came out and it has healed my incipient arthritis, fatigue, weight issues and lots more.

It took me years to realize how it helped my depression, which all the Os in my family have suffered from. I was sometimes suicidal and self-abusive. The longer I was on the diets the more this changed however, and wheat, corn, etc certainly contributed to all of the emotional pain I used to suffer. I can't imagine how I would have weathered my mom's passing last year if I hadn't made these changes-- grieving was hard enough as it was. But it was definitely different having the support of a way of eating that helped me cope, instead of burdening me with mental anguish. I am so grateful for this way of living and taking care of myself.
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