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If you're watching things that closely, it's even better to join the Fresh Start monthly thread where people are concentrating on recovery in a group setting.


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I will say I think I needed the folate.

But I'm still unsure why I'm so vitamin dependent.
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But I'm still unsure why I'm so vitamin dependent.

If your gut was damaged, it is hard to predict what will and won't get absorbed from it...  I was really deficient in many things until I followed the diet for almost two years and gave the gut time to heal/rebuild the flora, etc.  I was constantly in the practitioners office to know what the body needed next to keep somewhat balanced - but needed to take handfuls of supplements daily to keep "normal" operation...


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If your gut was damaged, it is hard to predict what will and won't get absorbed from it...  

Years ago when I had this type problem, I didn't feel as if vitamins or food made the slightest bit of difference in the way I felt. It was awful. Only after I started taking probiotics for a while did I see any change. And those probiotics were not even the best ones for me, but they still helped tremendously. It always helps to note that acid reflux or hiatal hernia can cause the same pain as heart conditions. Same nerve involvement.

DOS, I noticed you mentioned lifting weights recently. That could do a number on me that would last for days. I could enjoy using weights, but I simply cannot do it. You could try sleeping elevated.... A veggie drink soothes me more than anything. It would help your hydration too. Aspirin can make the pain worse. One test that helps me know if the pain is my heart or acid reflux is to drink a veggie drink. If the drink soothes the pain, I know it is not my heart. I hope you soon get this figured out, but something as simple as lifting the weights could be the root of the problem. That pain can bring on panic attacks and other weird feelings.


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if the folate helps you may need to look into methylation problems, which are fairly common. I'm dealing with them. I have to have special forms of B vit.
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if the folate helps you may need to look into methylation problems, which are fairly common. I'm dealing with them. I have to have special forms of B vit.


I assume that is an issue for me. But I'd also say other things are too.

Folate has been very good. I feel like it's fixing me, along with some stuff to support thyroid. My digestion while not 100% regular, appears to be working better. Nerves are better too, and circulation.

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DOS, I noticed you mentioned lifting weights recently. That could do a number on me that would last for days. I could enjoy using weights, but I simply cannot do it... Aspirin can make the pain worse. ...something as simple as lifting the weights could be the root of the problem. That pain can bring on panic attacks and other weird feelings.


My midsection is my achilles heel. Any strain at all causes the problems you've described. And aspirin? Ohhh... I can almost feel it eating away at me.
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I wasn't heavy lifting at all. And I don't have gym access. It was only for a few days

Aspirin seems fine with me; but it takes a bunch. I've been having a few lemons while I could get them.
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Years ago when I had this type problem, I didn't feel as if vitamins or food made the slightest bit of difference in the way I felt. It was awful. Only after I started taking probiotics for a while did I see any change. And those probiotics were not even the best ones for me, but they still helped tremendously. It always helps to note that acid reflux or hiatal hernia can cause the same pain as heart conditions. Same nerve involvement.

DOS, I noticed you mentioned lifting weights recently. That could do a number on me that would last for days. I could enjoy using weights, but I simply cannot do it. You could try sleeping elevated.... A veggie drink soothes me more than anything. It would help your hydration too. Aspirin can make the pain worse. One test that helps me know if the pain is my heart or acid reflux is to drink a veggie drink. If the drink soothes the pain, I know it is not my heart. I hope you soon get this figured out, but something as simple as lifting the weights could be the root of the problem. That pain can bring on panic attacks and other weird feelings.


What a great answer, Spring.  Please tell me why aspirin could make a person feel worse --
do you mean that it can be irritating to the gut due to acidity? ...and why lifting weights could make a person feel worse too.  Is it because it's stressful or that it's not aerobic?  Curious why a veggie drink is soothing.  The minerals?  I just need to understand the whys, if you won't mind explaining.  Thanks


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Please tell me why aspirin could make a person feel worse --
do you mean that it can be irritating to the gut due to acidity? ...and why lifting weights could make a person feel worse too.  Is it because it's stressful or that it's not aerobic?  Curious why a veggie drink is soothing.  The minerals?  I just need to understand the whys, if you won't mind explaining.  Thanks
Thanks, Chloe! It is simply the acid of the aspirin that can cause so much pain for people who are sensitive to it. Lifting weights is one of the worst things people can do who have a tendency to have acid reflux. Especially if they have scar tissue. It can cause intense pain in the chest because of acid from the stomach being forced up into the esophagus. The pain can go up the chest into the neck and down the left arm. Also, through the chest to the back. All exactly mimicking a heart problem. I know a young man who was overweight who was scared to death that he had heart problems. He was diagnosed with acid reflux, lost fifty pounds and is one happy guy to know that his pain was not from his heart!

The veggie drink - mostly green stuff with carrots, no salt - is extremely soothing. I have never swallowed anything in my life that helped that pain as much as one of these drinks. Antacids don't even come close. I wish I knew exactly why it works so well (maybe because it is high alkaline?), but I am very glad to have discovered such a delicious, easy remedy for the pain of acid reflux. I had spent far too many years trying to deal with it. Also, I keep high alkaline veggie soup in my freezer all the time in case I have done some heavier lifting than I should.



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Thanks so much for your awesome explanation Spring.  If I don't ask many questions, I don't fully
know how to share information with others.  


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Now it seems like my blood sugar is high every time I eat. Can't sleep, having heart beat issues. But it doesn't seem the say, like it doen't feel life threatening. But it is confusing because for a day or two I didn't have any issues, nerves and things felt great, I was hydrated etc.

It's like now that my digestion might be working I get too much carbs? I think I need some more magnesium, but I didn't get paid Saturday so all I can do is eat rice for now... Or maybe I can't take folate with food. I took some and eventually fell asleep, nerves a bit better. But I think insulin isn't normal because when I eat whey cheese then I sometimes need to nap after eating.

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Now it seems like my blood sugar is high every time I eat. Can't sleep, having heart beat issues. But it doesn't seem the say, like it doen't feel life threatening. But it is confusing because for a day or two I didn't have any issues, nerves and things felt great, I was hydrated etc.

It's like now that my digestion might be working I get too much carbs? I think I need some more magnesium, but I didn't get paid Saturday so all I can do is eat rice for now... Or maybe I can't take folate with food. I took some and eventually fell asleep, nerves a bit better. But I think insulin isn't normal because when I eat whey cheese then I sometimes need to nap after eating.

I feel sleepy after I eat cottage cheese so I try to eat it later in the day. Makes me have a good night's sleep. Too many carbs or too much salt will make my heart beat faster so I try to avoid too much at one time. I am not a big fan of salt, anyway, but sometimes food prepared by someone else has a lot more salt than I use.


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DoS--I can so relate to all of your symptoms. All the way down to the ringing in the ears. 'Heart beating' discomfort sounds like adrenal fatigue to me. Believe me, adrenal fatigue can really mess with the body. I do not know your health history--your weight--your blood lipids--omega oil levels, or your family history.  That said I will stick my neck out and say that as a bystander I think it is unlikely that at your age you have a heart condition. Chest tightness is most likely to be muscle tightness. And you'd also be amazed how much tightness and pain can be caused by ribs being out of adjustment and that could so easily result from lifting weights. I am Rolfed regularly and every week my ribs need tweaking. You may know if you have loose ligaments.  If so--the ribs slip around a lot and can cause much chest discomfort.

Certainly the worry about having a heart attack/condition brings on stress that only exacerbates all the symptoms.

I have followed DrD's fatigue protocol with much success.

I hope my input helps a bit. As I read this thread my heart goes out to you as you struggle with the dis-ease your body is presenting you with right now. And to answer a question you asked earlier--no--it will not always be like this for you.  Our bodies have an inherent ability to heal themselves. You will work through this.

And never discount the benefits of meditation. It works and it's free.
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