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Peppermint Twist
Wednesday, April 2, 2014, 5:20pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I'm not judging, but there are safer routes to go re: fleas and ticks. I could give you a reading list, if you'd like. Number one item on all lists is to use food as medicine (where have I heard that before? ). A healthy animal resists pests much better than a unhealthy one.

No offense, but if I hear that old schtick that fleas go for the unhealthy host and leave the healthy ones alone ONE more time, I may pop a gasket.  That is just flat not the case in Florida, anyway.  Florida fleas go for healthy, unhealthy, anybody with a heartbeat.  The healthier the better:  healthy blood is DEE-lish, per the fleas around here.

The good news is, I didn't have to resort to the Comfortis for cats, which I really was not comfortable doing.  The Vectra for cats topical took two doses only three weeks apart, in TANDEM with the dog getting his Trifexis (spinosad--same active ingredient as Comfortis), to get things under control, but the household is good now.  Lesson learned:  I cannot forego the flea treatments now that we are in a second-floor apartment and the cats are indoors.  The dog still goes out, rolls around in dog parks, etc.  Even without that, before I ever had a dog, when I first moved to FL, my indoor cats got fleas just from fleas jumping onto my socks and hitching a ride inside.  And they WILL go for a healthy host, trust me.  Especially in a small apartment wherein there are only four hosts to choose from.


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PT and Adopted I feel for you and your pets!!!
When we lived down the hill in Chino Hills (former dairy land) near Orange County our dogs were constantly scratching from fleas! I was always using sprays/lotions and turning them over on their backs, inspecting their tummies to catch the little pests! Needless to say way too many hours were spent on that!!!
The micro climate there is slightly humid.....very green, rolling hills.

We moved up to 3500 feet above sea level into the high,dry desert...yup, you probably guessed it...no more fleas!!!!!
There are people that say fleas do exist up here...maybe, but I had 4 dogs when I moved here 30 years ago. At one point we had 7 dogs and now have 5. None of them have had fleas here on the high desert. And, I have never used any flea medicine/product on or around them!!!

Now, the New Mexico desert may be different since Drea has encountered fleas. I have been to Florida and know of their extreme humidity and bugs, yuck on both accounts! Seems like flea haven there.
So, I truly wish you all the best on getting rid of those nasty varmints!!!


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It's all good now that my big experiment with going off all treatments was an epic FAIL, and I have resumed giving the dog his Trifexis and the cats their Vectra.  The Trifexis is the big gun--I don't think Vectra works well, yet it works better than any other topical for felines I've tried.  The dog being on Trifexis seems to work on the entire HOUSEHOLD, but I had to give the cats the Vectra--two treatments spaced only 3 weeks apart, no less--to get the OUTBREAK we experienced from my big attempt to go non-toxic under control.  Lesson learned.

Not a flea fan.  Those little suckers carry a lot of serious diseases, plus they in themselves can morph into a fatal situation for a pet if they get too out of control (flea anemia can kill).


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The mushroom powders can be fine also for pets (extracts too toughy...) and I
made the experience, dogs and cats like the smell of the mushies and take it easily
or as a capsule or justamente pur it into their foods  
problems with intestines = go for bio pleurotus or hericium  


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Quoted from Amazone I.
The mushroom powders can be fine also for pets (extracts too toughy...) and I
made the experience, dogs and cats like the smell of the mushies and take it easily
or as a capsule or justamente pur it into their foods  
problems with intestines = go for bio pleurotus or hericium  


I checked out mushroom powder for the first time on Amazon where I buy much of my non-perishable foods and supplements. There are quite a few to choose from and some are very expensive, but I may consider supplementing my cats and dogs diets with it in the future.

One of my healthier cats (that is, she was all of her life) has developed a bad cough and it happened right after I medicated each of our pets last week with the 2nd dose of the once-a-month flea control medicine. She seemed fine after the first dose last month, but perhaps the toxicity had built up just enough in her system to cause an illness. She's 5 years old and has never been a sickly cat until now. We're trying to give her the most nutrient dense food when she does want to eat, which is only half as often as she used to. But I wonder if she'll have this bad cough as long as this medication lasts, which is another 2 1/2-3 weeks?

I'm hopeful that we're gradually getting the flea problem under control as we are following very strict house cleaning protocols recommended by Dr. Pitcairn, and we're also gradually including garlic and nutritional yeast in the pets' food. In addition, we bought a flea comb and I've been able to keep the pets relatively flea free if I"m grooming them and pulling the fleas out of their fur frequently. It was a very wise and practical item to purchase in our quest to get the animals/house flea free. In the near future, we also plan to use a flea fogger in the house again as it is recommended to do a follow up bombing with heavier flea infestations.

Between getting the flea problem under control and incorporating the BARF diet for our pets, and also training our "puppies" outside with the new invisible fence system, my life has been quite hectic. All these efforts are above and beyond my normal duties being a homemaker and home school mom of 4. UGH!!!!!!

Wish me luck!




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I wanted to share that I recently found a product called Buzz! 4 bugs, that is a non-toxic bug spray that is safe for people and pets and instantly kills fleas, ticks, bed bugs, etc. it's a combination of cedar oil and hydrated silica. We are going to start using it at the kennel. I found it at our local high-end pet store. It sure beats putting toxins on our pets (and on ourselves by default).


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Quoted from Drea
I wanted to share that I recently found a product called Buzz! 4 bugs, that is a non-toxic bug spray that is safe for people and pets and instantly kills fleas, ticks, bed bugs, etc. it's a combination of cedar oil and hydrated silica. We are going to start using it at the kennel. I found it at our local high-end pet store. It sure beats putting toxins on our pets (and on ourselves by default).


I checked out the Buzz Barrier products on Amazon and it looks like a worthwhile product to have around the house. It is tricky to clean effectively in certain areas of the house, such as my beagle's round padded dog bed (which cannot be washed), the folds of the couches, and areas under the beds where the cats frequently sleep/hide.

Thanks for the heads up; anything non-toxic, affordable, and effective is worth a try.

BTW, my sick cat is feeling much better these days and only has an occasional dry, weak cough now. Her appetite is back to normal and she spends more time up and around, not hiding.


Coleen ISF-J, Non-Taster
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BUZZ 4 Bugs is a different product than Buzz Barrier. BUZZ 4 Bugs.


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