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yvonneb
Friday, October 11, 2013, 7:09am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Well...4 weeks into a flare-up and I am not getting a handle on the Dysbiosis  

I have been taking 2 Polyflora/ day for the last two years with GREAT results!

And then I went on holidays... after three weeks of Stress, during the season's change, during a harvest moon with my period pending coming   

I never had a chance  

Anyway, I had wanted to go for sooo long I was kinda 'prepared' for the price, meaning I had taken 1/2 suitcase full of medication   in case.

To cut to the chase, I did end up needing everything and now being back home, things still aren't settling for me the way they should.

I have been diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis in 1998- so I have been through my fair share of flare-ups, but this one stands out for a number of reasons.

My mum thought, maybe I had got myself a Gastro or flu on the plane as well as having the flare-up and something like that would certainly explain the unusual symptoms I have been having: extreme nausea, tighness across the belly ALL the time, hollowness, loss of muscle (5kg! mainly legs), no appetite (I am on 60mg/day prednisolone- I should be eating like a horse!)...

But...the one thing I really need to fix is the Dysbiosis! I ramped up the Polyflora to 3/day (always on an empty stomach)

I have been eating 100% compliant for my SWAMI re. food choice, but only 90% compliant re. frequency (4 instead of 6 servings of veg and I probably eat the equivalent of two servings instead of 1.5 of rice cakes)

For the Colitis, I ramped up all the usual suspects for anti- inflammation (flax, fish, tumeric, ginger, cayenne, olive oil, L-Glutamine)

For the dysbiosis, greenish bananas & butyric acid to feed the little critters.
But the tongue is still white and everything is still very, very smelly  

Sooo, what to do?   The drugs will make my body do a turn around, but to me that is not 'getting well'.

Any ideas?

PS: On a brighter note...Iceland was AMAZING!!! It was THE holiday and if any of you ever get the chance...go and see it! You have never smelled air as clean, seen landscape as alien, houses pretty as a picture. The people are so friendly and funny- we had an absolute ball! Already saving to go back  

PS: sooo...I better get back on track with the auld health, I would not fancy a repeat performance of this  
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Any ideas?   Non, but have a friend that has severe running to the bathroom all night and day .. I will lookin here to find out what is suggested.  She is at whits end.. and has no ideas..  

PS: On a brighter note...Iceland was AMAZING!!! It was THE holiday and if any of you ever get the chance...go and see it! You have never smelled air as clean, seen landscape as alien, houses pretty as a picture. The people are so friendly and funny- we had an absolute ball! Already saving to go back ......  Yes I was there many decades ago and still remember it.. the blue lagoon is a new addition since I was there... indeed a great place.  

http://www.drdooley.com/gut-dysbiosis-therapy.php   I wanted to explore the word Dysbiosis and found this explanation. it is in 'english' and may serve to answer questions for others as well.  I had surgery as of late and have some issues with the same, so my interest is all around .. waiting to hear..  


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Start with sublingal methyl b12. Folic acid is good too.

Then I'd do the cardiovascular protocol and fatique. Maybe check the stress one for things that parrallel fatique.

Other than that get your meat, veggies, and exercise in like any Type O.

That's what I'd do.
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a lot of the A's can't meatabolize F.acid at all! And they still believe all is doable get informed about this very issue..!


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more rest, especially in afternoon, early morning walk and deep breathing, good quality sleep - early to bed if possible, work with your body's rythyms and the daily circadian rhythms.  
Keep food moist for now, ie fruits, vegetables, oils/fats, some grains if you tolerate them cooked in water (not baked or puffed as can dry out some internal systems).
Coated tongue can mean digestive fire is low, and toxicity has built up in cells; some raw juicing may help, as may missing a meal, a mini fast and rest to allow the body to heal/detox.
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Quoted from Amazone I.
a lot of the A's can't meatabolize F.acid at all! And they still believe all is doable get informed about this very issue..!


What's your point? The OP is an O.
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Wednesday, October 16, 2013, 6:21am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Taking Folic acid alongside Vitamin B complex (contains B12) every day to offset that my prescribed drugs rob my body of same.

Raw juicing sounds good- am definitely toxic...what with all the stuff I am taking at the moment...

Sleep is a problem, as the steroids have me full of enthusiasm for anything and everything- I tend to wake up thinking up a storm about things Not worrying...just ideas and projects and, and, and...

Am not so keen on on fasting/ mini fast at this stage, as I have lost a stone in muscle mass in the process...working on eating lots, resting and gentle walking for now  

Things are better since I started this thread, so hopefully soon I'll be back on a more healthy, even keel!

Thank you all for your support- it always means much!
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Quoted from yvonneb
Taking Folic acid alongside Vitamin B complex (contains B12)


If it's not a sublingal methyl b12 it may not be doing anything.
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Awesome product:

http://northamericanpharmacal.com/living/2013/10/product-spotlight-intrinsa-for-gut-health/

And I'm a real fan of strong ginger tea made by grating fresh ginger.  



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I have empathy with you, YvonneB - I am sure it is only a matter of time before you improve.
Remember, any pharmaceutical medicine really only treats symptoms, unless one looks at root causes, problems may continue or re-occur, 'let our medicine be our food, let our food be our medicine' - famous quote.
If you have a juicing machine in your kitchen, try carrot, celery, beet and apple.  There are many variations of course, even some spinach or green herbs can be added.
The ginger tea mentioned above is also good, I use ginger and tumeric in cooking.
Fair enough about fasting, if you do, just start with missing an evening meal, drinking warm herbal tea, getting to bed early with heat pack on your belly/stomach, and notice how you feel in morning.
I am also underweight, but I realised that much of my food and supplements were not reaching my cells, due to a build up of toxicity in the cells, and if one has been under stress, one can breath shallow which means carbon dioxide has also been taking up space in cells, hence me now doing yoga breathing and yoga mudra twice a day.
Keep up protein for your adrenal glands too, do a search on how to feed your adrenals, and what time of day is best as corisol levels change depending on time of day.
quite a few people I know have improved since stayin gaway from grains, all grains.
I now can't eat them after 1pm at all, and only eat minimal grain.
An increase of vegetables should help too, some raw or semi raw around lunch time, and cooked at breaky and dinner time.  Look after your glands, the liver is the largest, and the liver loves green...
Red foods - energy;   orange/yellow - laxitives;   greens  -  the healers.
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I forgot to mention, that if you have had blood sugar imbalances in the past or suspect hypoglycaemia, then I would just do carrot juice, until health improves; as beet and apple can affect some of the middle organs, ie pancreas/liver.
so just one medium glass of fresh carrot juice per day around 11am if possible, or 4pm, and mostly COOKED vegetables, especially green leafy, broccoli, spinach, chard, green beans are good.  as are turnip, yellow/orange squash/pumpkin, swede (rutabaga), spring onions (shallot), ginger, a little raw garlic.  just a suggestion.
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Awesome product:

http://northamericanpharmacal.com/living/2013/10/product-spotlight-intrinsa-for-gut-health/

And I'm a real fan of strong ginger tea made by grating fresh ginger.  


Yes!...remembered last night I had bought Fucus! Happy days!!
Will take that today and look at ordering Intrinsia- Thanks!

I dooo like ginger in my tea, but find if it's strong it kinda 'cuts'  
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Keep up protein for your adrenal glands too, do a search on how to feed your adrenals, and what time of day is best as corisol levels change depending on time of day.
quite a few people I know have improved since stayin gaway from grains, all grains.
I now can't eat them after 1pm at all, and only eat minimal grain.
An increase of vegetables should help too, some raw or semi raw around lunch time, and cooked at breaky and dinner time.  Look after your glands, the liver is the largest, and the liver loves green...
Red foods - energy;   orange/yellow - laxitives;   greens  -  the healers.


This is new for me...adrenals...new research- great!

Eating minimal grains...check!
Increase in veg...check! Since last week (swapped quinoa brekki-that had been my only carb portion/ day- for veggie omelette)

Didn't try raw veg yet...too chicken  

Allocating the colours...that's new too! I did buy a big head of cabbage, but again, was too chicken so far to throw that into the mix yet...it does have a lot of fibre  

OK- aim for end of this week...do all of the above, starting with small quantities- I can do that  

Thanks!

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raw can just mean a little, if you can't do a juice, just chew on a ltitle carrot, celery, apple, beet around 11am, then ready for lunch of a small salad, then a high protein source, some grain if you like, I seem to be eating rice at present, and prefer a brown rice.
cabbage good for stir fry, this helps the liver a lot, at least with me, and so long as you have a good salt and maybe some sea vegetable, your thyroid gland should be fine.  Others may have their own views on this.  I like brussels sprouts too, and only a little is needed, finely chopped or sliced into stir fry, and chew a little raw, up to you!
Broccoli and greens are still top of the list for me, as is ginger/garlic and tumeric.
I know quinoa is high protein and high in nutrients, but some people may not digest this well or quickly enough to draw the nutrients which some of us O' need quickly due to the way we are wired. I don't know how quinoa works in my own system and I feel I usually like to stay safe with vegetables which provide some of the nutrients that quinoa does, and get my protein now from fish/poultry/red meat/eggs; maybe occasionally I'll have lentils/split mung beans/adzuki beans or other beans but I like fish and veg at night with spices in ghee over the top, a little salt.
Keep us posted!
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cabbage good for stir fry, this helps the liver a lot, at least with me, and so long as you have a good salt and maybe some sea vegetable, your thyroid gland should be fine.  Others may have their own views on this.  I like brussels sprouts too, and only a little is needed, finely chopped or sliced into stir fry, and chew a little raw, up to you!
Broccoli and greens are still top of the list for me, as is ginger/garlic and tumeric.
I know quinoa is high protein and high in nutrients, but some people may not digest this well or quickly enough to draw the nutrients which some of us O' need quickly due to the way we are wired.


Brussel sprouts are not on my Swami, neither are lentils
But...I have introduced some raw foods and all went well, as did the steamed cabbage
Started on sprouted Broccoli seeds four days ago- all good!!
Definitely feel much better with the breakfast omelette! Never questioned if the Quinoa is agreeing with MY system...

Your posts have made me rethink a few habits I've slid into over the years...Thank you!
Just to show- one never stops learning  
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Quoted from yvonneb
Brussel sprouts are not on my Swami, neither are lentils

Brussels sprout are on the Live Foods page.
Lentils are in Vegetable Proteins.
Or are you saying they are listed, but in avoid, etc...




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