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I would think you should expect a battle initially, but eventually you may be able to scale back to only 2-3 Polyflora O's per day.

Since she was already taking Polyflora O + the other probiotic, the "battle" should have been ongoing - but we don't know who was winning...  Depending on what the balance is now, will depend on whether there is any additional "fight" or whether the gut can just settle down and work...  

It is also possible that there was never any real fight, but that the off-type bacteria were processing out some of the good and contributing harmful waste...

yaeli - the "fight" (if there is/was one) would be between the different bacteria - good and not-so-good for your type...


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Oh!!! Sure, the conflicting bacteria

Thank you my wise AB good friends. Yes, it is my wish to minimize all inner battles. Peace ho!



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I have been taking a probiotic for a zillion years and tried the NAP product for two months a while back - before SWAMI - and couldn't tell a bit of difference. I'm always interested in making improvements, though, so I recently ordered more bottles from NAP. I can't remember the last time I had a stomach virus - probably when our children were young which would have been over thirty years ago. Two colds in about the same length of time. So I will be really curious to see if I see any results - who knows I might even be able to eat superfood cheese without it bothering me for three days! That would be sure-fire proof that the stuff works best!!


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Oh!!! Sure, the conflicting bacteria
Thank you my wise AB friends. Yes, it is my wish to minimize all inner battles. Peace ho!

Yaeli, I'm sure you didn't want to upset any applecarts, especially after the new-found joys in your regimen! I knew what ABJoe meant about the "battle." Yes, we tend to want all the "peace" we can get when it has to do with our bodies!


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Yaeli, I'm sure you didn't want to upset any applecarts, especially after the new-found joys in your regimen!
Thanks! But still I did anyhow: seeking urgent help I added this enormous quantity of probiotics by NOW with the undesirable strains. At the time I was indeed very grateful, as this did the job very successfully. Later I added "Daily Essential Enzymes" (by Source Naturals), and a couple of days ago I started to try to discard the NOW probiotics. Looking forward  


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I knew what ABJoe meant about the "battle."
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A couple of days ago I started to try to discard the NOW probiotics.
Eventually, thanks to this thread, and especially thanks to Averno's explanation! I am happy I made this step, and I do hope this is going to prove the winning line.

In the meantime, I'm trying, enjoying, and am grateful.

Thank you all, my dear friends




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Thank you, Yaeli  

Here's hoping the transition will be more of an argument than a battle!  
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Thank you, Yaeli  

Here's hoping the transition will be more of an argument than a battle!  


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FYI: prebiotics actually are more important than probiotics. The probiotics in your gut need foods to stay alive, good sources are rice bran, oat bran and fruits. Taking probiotics on a daily base is very helpful and healthy, but theoretically it is unnecessary if you're consuming prebiotics. (There will always remain good bacteria in your gut, they just need enough food to multiply.)
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I've always wondered about this....Are you supposed to first kill off bad bacteria and then take probiotics?  Or would massive doses of probiotics actually crowd out bad bacteria and put you ahead
with good?  Nobody knows what percentage of bad bacteria they have in their guts....and adding massive
doses of good bacteria suddenly....wouldn't that cause bloat and major gut upheaval?

I guess what I'm wondering....do you go slowly with upping good bacteria or is it better to be aggressive when trying to balance gut flora?



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You should make your gut a pleasant environment for the good bacteria and unpleasant for the bad ones. The goods ones will then simply overcrowd the bad ones. And that's done by simply eating the right stuff.

The probiotic supplements do help a little, but don't forget that the amount of good bacteria in such a probiotics-capsule is only very very tiny compared to the total number of good bacteria in a healthy gut.

By the way; probiotic foods (like home-made kefir, fresh sauerkraut, miso soup, etc.) are much better than probiotic supplements because then you can be sure all those bacteria are alive, and moreover you'll ingest tens if not hundreds or thousands of times the amount of good bacteria compared to taking a probiotic-supplement.

Also; it's virtually impossible to kill all bacteria in your gut (either good or bad) so don't bother trying
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Thanks Damon.....it all makes perfect sense!  


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Thanks for all the info!   I guess I'm going to order some Polyflora O very soon.  

Should this be taken twice a day?  and 2 capsules?  Or is this only when your body is stressed, like with antibiotics.

I have the Rhodiola now (by NOW).  How many should I take each day?  with all meals?

yaeli, I've been taking a NOW probiotic also, it has 8, 7 of the same in yours.  Mine is almost gone.  I'm going to pitch it because I recently bought one with L. rhamnosus and L. acidophilus.  When my Polyflora comes maybe I can take 1 kind in the a.m. and 1 in the p.m....
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Dr. D recommends 2 capsules twice daily. This recommedation is always the same in all the Health Protocols which include Polyflora, incl. in the Antibiotic Support Protocol.


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When my Polyflora comes maybe I can take 1 kind in the a.m. and 1 in the p.m....
Hi Nadira, as explained to me here above, if the probiotic preparation that I take contains strains which are not beneficial for O's, these can be detrimental to my gut health, and they should best be avoided altogether.



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...Yesterday I decided to dare, and instead of taking 2 capsules of Polyflora O twice daily + 1 NOW Probiotic-10 capsule (50 billion each) twice daily, started taking 6 capsules of Polyflora O twice daily. I am waiting to see how it goes. It figures: this way I get 18 billion daily of the 2 strains I do need, instead of the 100 billion daily of the NOW 10 strains. The quantity I get of the 2 strains needed by O may be even larger in Polyflora than what I've been getting from the NOW probiotic. But the crucial point is, that I don't take anymore of the other strains, which are, or may be, practically harmful to my gut.  

I do hope this works. It means 3 jars of Polyflora monthly.  

An update: So far it's working!!! It's working!!! Big time.



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Ferment some foods too for the added benefit--


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One trick that Lola uses is to use the powder in the Polyflora capsule as a starter for food that she cultures.  With the multiplication of the microorganisms in the cultures she can get quite a dose with fewer capsules.

I am not sure how much Polyflora Lola takes a day but I think it is less than twelve capsules.


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When I first switched from various other brands to the Polyflora, I took a couple 2 or 3 times daily away from food. After several years of Polyflora, I have reduced my dose to one capsule before bed and one capsule first thing upon awakening.  I have a good internal garden going, and it shows by the health of my intestines and my stools.  



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I've yet to take any of the supps Dr D'Adamo sells... I have previously taken a product with Lactobacillus rhamnosus in it & found it worked well, but whenever I've checked out the other ingredients in Polyflora O I get worried re the banana extract, the brewers yeast & the chicory (all of which I have problems with) Also nervous re the Larch arabinogalactan as I don't do well on galactans at all?!
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Thanks Andrea and C_Sharp for the good advice. Use of Polyflora for fermenting is brilliant. I am reluctant to ferment vegetables because I never know how much salt to use - I put too much. Have to dare again.

I drink kombucha tea every day, and I already bought once a jar of kimchi by the same manufacturer, who seems just trustworthy. Awesome products.  



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I never know how much salt to use - I put too much. Have to dare again.
The guy in this video says 2 cups of water for every tablespoon of good salt. (min. 5:49)



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Sea salt-- grey or pink


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Sea salt-- grey or pink
I keep both...   Today I used the grey. It's a bit coarser. For everyday use I prefer the pink: more on the optimistic side...  



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..I decided yesterday to dare, and instead of taking 2 capsules of Polyflora O twice daily + 1 NOW Probiotic-10 capsule (50 billion each) twice daily, started taking 6 capsules of Polyflora O twice daily. I am waiting to see how it goes. It figures: this way I get 18 billion daily of the 2 strains I do need, instead of the 100 billion daily of the NOW 10 strains. The quantity I get of the 2 strains needed by O may be even larger in Polyflora than what I've been getting from the NOW probiotic. But the crucial point is, that I don't take anymore of the other strains, which are, or may be, practically harmful to my gut.  

I do hope this works. It means 3 jars of Polyflora monthly.  

All's well that ends well.

On Thursday I had a treatment by my precious doctor and asked her to look into my irises. She told me they show that I am taking too much probiotics! ha ha She said that this stimulates the gut and is causing too much BMs. Praise the Lord! We made a plan to quiet the front, and I don't have to take the huge quantity of probiotics that I planned before. I'll up a bit my essential enzymes instead. {{deep sigh of relief}}  


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