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Nadira
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I'm starting another course of anti-biotics, and have a great deal of stress in my life right now (death in family, estate problems), so I am trying to use some of the pertinent protocols.

I take a probiotic whenever I can fit it in, but I really want to know the best time to take it.  

I usually start the day with my thyroid medication as soon as I wake up, but not necessarily get up.  After a half hour I start taking other medications, e.g. loratadine & Ibuprofen, if needed, and Ritalin, usually spaced about 10 min. apart, until I eat breakfast.  This is mostly because I have to wait an hour after taking thyroid before breakfast.

I've read that many people take probiotics after waking up, before breakfast.  I've also read here that I should take it away from food, i.e. 3-4 hours after eating meat, and 1 hour before eating.  If I take it between breakfast and lunch, sometimes it is hard to take it in that time period.  I could also take it between lunch and dinner, if I don't have a snack then...

So, is it okay to take it in the evening before bed?  Or should I take it sometime before breakfast?
And how much does it interfere with the absorption/utilization of the thyroid and/or other medications?

Also, since I'm on another course of anti-biotics, should I take more than one a day?

Thanks so much for any insight.
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Whenever I am on antibiotics, I take a probiotic about half-way between each of the antibiotic doses, and don't worry too much about them being away from foods...  

I figure that getting them in, even under less than ideal conditions, is better than not taking them.

I've never heard that probiotics interfere with drug or nutrient uptake...  Usually they assist with nutrient uptake...


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on an empty stomach with a live cell for the extra punch......great way to start the day


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If you take probiotics while on antibiotics please take them 'as far away' (time-wise) from the antibiotic as possible.

You may wish to discontinue the probiotics while taking antibiotics if it is a short course and creates issues with when and how you take other things or eat.

One thing you do not want to do is use the antibiotics to eradicate the probiotics rather than what they were prescribed to eradicate.
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People who are on antibiotics may benefit from taking probiotics at the same time, a review of evidence shows.
Probiotics 'may prevent diarrhoea'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-22717273
Probiotics 'may help when on antibiotics' study says


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http://www.health.harvard.edu/.....tic-use-201205094664

"Probiotics may help prevent diarrhea due to antibiotic use"

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Although the results of this study sound impressive, I won’t be recommending probiotics every time I write a prescription for antibiotic. But I will advise some of my patients to try a probiotic. They include:
•people who have had antibiotic-associated diarrhea in the past. This is especially true for those that have had a C. difficile infection.
•people who must take antibiotics for more than 10 days. (Other doctors might use more than 5 days).
•people who have switched from one antibiotic to another over a relatively short period of time.

The researchers were not able to answer two very important questions:
•Which probiotics are the most effective in preventing and treating antibiotic associated diarrhea?
•Which antibiotics are more likely to cause diarrhea?
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I take probiotics first thing in the morning and/or last thing before bed.  

If I must take antibiotics, I continue probiotics, taking them as far as possible away from the antibiotic.



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I, too, take probiotics before bed.


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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Thank you to everyone who left replies.

I'm going to take the probiotics exactly between the am/pm and pm/pm antibiotics.  And hopefully they will be at least an hour before lunch and dinner, or whenever.

After the anti-biotics are over, I will try them before bed.  That should also get me to stop the late night snacking

More replies are welcome.
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And in addition, in times of high stress, my doctor orders me to take a Rhodiola capsule not less than 3 times a day (with food) - I do and find it very very effective.  

Dr. D's Catechol


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yaeli, is Rhodiola something I can find at my local food co-op?  Do you know what company makes it?
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Nadira, any good health food store should have rhodiola - either tincture or capsules.  If not, you can search online and order that way.  It's especially good for type O's.  



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Dr. D's Catechol contains L-Tyrosine, Rhodiola, and other ingredients. Please read about it in there.

For Rhodiola alone Solgar is excellent (expensive). Vitacost sells it by some manufactureres. They also produces one under Vitacost label, which would be of the cheapest deals, but Vitacost themselves are not corn-free certified.


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I, too, take probiotics before bed.


Me too!



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Thank you to all who have replied.

I'm finally over my anti-biotics  

I'm now taking probiotics between breakfast and lunch.

Do the type-specific Polyflora really do a better job than others?  I currently taking a probiotic with 8 different types.  The O type Polyflora only has 2 kinds of probiotics.
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Do the type-specific Polyflora really do a better job than others?  I currently taking a probiotic with 8 different types.  The O type Polyflora only has 2 kinds of probiotics.

I am happier taking the per-type Polyflora than I was taking any other probiotic I could find...  Dr. D. has said it is a combination of both the specific bacteria and the pre-biotic that is included that makes the difference...  Bacteria exhibit blood-type specificity, so it does make a difference which are present, as the wrong ones will fight the good ones.


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I have taken probiotics for many years, and the Polyflora (blood type specific) has been the very best for me.  I had my doubts at first, but I have no doubts anymore - actually after the first week, I could tell the difference.



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I think non-blood type probiotics are a waste of money and at best do very little of what's expected of them. I took the best OTC versions for years before BTD, and the switch to BT specific made a profound difference. If I'd only known then what I know now.

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It is so true blood type based polyflora is the best.

I have taken probiotic recommended by doctor or best rated brand but I can see the huge difference after taking Polyflora A.

If I have to budget it is the last supplement I would give up.
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It is so true blood type based polyflora is the best.

I have taken probiotic recommended by doctor or best rated brand but I can see the huge difference after taking Polyflora A.

If I have to budget it is the last supplement I would give up.


I agree. I don't know if I could get along without it.

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I think non-blood type probiotics are a waste of money and at best do very little of what's expected of them. I took the best OTC versions for years before BTD, and the switch to BT specific made a profound difference. If I'd only known then what I know now.

Reading your post I decided yesterday to dare, and instead of taking 2 capsules of Polyflora O twice daily + 1 NOW Probiotic-10 capsule (50 billion each) twice daily, started taking 6 capsules of Polyflora O twice daily. I am waiting to see how it goes. It figures: this way I get 18 billion daily of the 2 strains I do need, instead of the 100 billion daily of the NOW 10 strains. The quantity I get of the 2 strains needed by O may be even larger in Polyflora than what I've been getting from the NOW probiotic. But the crucial point is, that I don't take anymore of the other strains, which are, or may be, practically harmful to my gut.  

I do hope this works. It means 3 jars of Polyflora monthly.  



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The other 8 strains in the NOW probiotic preparation are:

L. acidophilus, B. bifidum, L. plantarum, L. salivarius, L. casei, L. paracasei, B. breve, B. longum.


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Reading your post I decided yesterday to dare, and instead of taking 2 capsules of Polyflora O twice daily + 1 NOW Probiotic-10 capsule (50 billion each) twice daily, started taking 6 capsules of Polyflora O twice daily. I am waiting to see how it goes. It figures: this way I get 18 billion daily of the 2 strains I do need, instead of the 100 billion daily of the NOW 10 strains. The quantity I get of the 2 strains needed by O may be even larger in Polyflora than what I've been getting from the NOW probiotic. But the crucial point is, that I don't take anymore of the other strains, which are, or may be, practically harmful to my gut.  

I do hope this works. It means 3 jars of Polyflora monthly.  




I would think you should expect a battle initially, but eventually you may be able to scale back to only 2-3 Polyflora O's per day.



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I would think you should expect a battle initially, but eventually you may be able to scale back to only 2-3 Polyflora O's per day.
Why battle? Who's in conflict?  



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Wow, I only take 2 to occasionally 4/day, Yaeli.  I'll be very interested to hear how you feel about it.
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