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I've been focusing on my vitamin D level for a few years, because I read that low D was linked to all kinds of troubles, including some symptoms I had. Now I've been taking a high dose of D (10,000 iu per day) for a long time, and my D level is healthy (57) but I don't feel good.


Now I'm wondering about magnesium and vitamin D. Could low magnesium have been behind my previous difficulty in  maintaining a high level of vitamin D? Could greatly increasing my mag intake enable me to maintain my D level while taking a much lower dose?

Somebody invited me to a magnesium Facebook group about a week ago, and it's a VERY active group, so I'm constantly going back to read the new messages and magnesium has been on my mind a lot.

In addition to using the mag oil on my skin and epsom salts baths (which, according to some sources, isn't a very good source of mag but great for detox) I've been putting some mag oil and baking soda in water and drinking that throughout the day. This coincided with me dropping my vitamin D intake in half (I'm running out and can't buy more until June) and for the past couple of days I've stopped taking it altogether.




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Magnesium and Vit. D go hand in hand. As a B, I have lower magnesium levels than other blood types (according to Dr. D.'s books) and coupled with my vitamin D deficiency, my body was off-kilter. I take my mag and vit D pills together. I also noticed that being estrogen dominant affects vitamin D levels. I am balancing out my hormones as well.

Doing all three things together is helping - I feel like my vitamin D level is finally stabilizing. However, it is still not perfect because my I notice that I feel run down and tired with stress - which also affects levels. I try and take an extra 5,000 i.u. when that happens and then I feel MUCH better!


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Magnesium and Vit. D go hand in hand. As a B, I have lower magnesium levels than other blood types (according to Dr. D.'s books) and coupled with my vitamin D deficiency, my body was off-kilter. I take my mag and vit D pills together. I also noticed that being estrogen dominant affects vitamin D levels. I am balancing out my hormones as well.

Doing all three things together is helping - I feel like my vitamin D level is finally stabilizing. However, it is still not perfect because my I notice that I feel run down and tired with stress - which also affects levels. I try and take an extra 5,000 i.u. when that happens and then I feel MUCH better!


Question....Is your D level low because you're estrogen dominant?  Or high?  You magnesium
level must be adequate if you feel better after taking MORE D......because if magnesium were
too low to begin with, then additional D might actually lower your magnesium.  IT's a vicious
cycle....Taking extra D doesn't necessarily make me feel better or worse....I just know that without enough magnesium, the D won't go from being in storage to becoming active.

What I do is drink Natural Calm (mag citrate) in small doses all day long....a tsp at a time in
a large glass of water....just so my muscles don't go wonky on me.  People with fibromyalgia
seem to be highly deficient in magnesium and this is a condition more likely to happen in
women...

I was looking all over for this website....finally found it. Lots of good magnesium information.

http://www.mgwater.com/listd.shtml#mgdef

http://www.mgwater.com/estrogen.shtml

Also people  who have had damage to their guts from gluten wind up with malabsorption.....a reason to
use magnesium oil to bypass digestion.  It's likely the reason my magnesium issues exist....Probably have
had issues absorbing all nutrients until I gave up gluten.  It's been 8 years off gluten....Hope my absorption
of minerals has improved!


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My sister loves using the mag oil.  I take it orally. Like I said it seemed to dehydrate me really quickly when I sprayed it on. I was getting terrible UTI's..until I stopped using it.  Hey but that's me. I don't know of people who have abnormal EKG's from taking fish oil either.
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My sister loves using the mag oil.  I take it orally. Like I said it seemed to dehydrate me really quickly when I sprayed it on. I was getting terrible UTI's..until I stopped using it.  Hey but that's me. I don't know of people who have abnormal EKG's from taking fish oil either.


Interesting because when I first started using mag oil.....about 5 years ago, when I sprayed it on,
it dried out my skin something terrible....I mean dry, flaky, scaly skin on my legs....and then, my skin was peeling off.  Couldn't find any place to put it on my body where it wasn't almost burning my skin.

It doesn't happen now..  I have to think about what is different.  Well, for one, I think I'm less
acidic...I go out of my way to try and stay alkalized by eating raw fruits and veggies, lots of salads, avoiding too much animal protein or highly acidic foods.  So perhaps an alkaline mineral
topically hitting acidic skin causes this strange chemical reaction.  When I use mag oil now, my
skin stays soft.  My hands used to look like there was no water left in them when I used to rub
on the mag oil....but doesn't happen anymore.

Consider your diet.....How much of it is raw, alkaline and how much of it is cooked, too high in
animal protein.  Might just be a ph issue....

As for getting UTIs when using mag oil.....can't figure that one out.   Unless you just weren't able
to balance your ph.  

The trick is to use mag oil, take magnesium pills in a form you tolerate and get your calcium from
food.  We're all overly calcified from all the added calcium they keep dumping into foods.  I tried
to buy plain old Welch's grape juice the other day.  Label said "fortified with calcium"......Had to
go to three supermarkets until I found plain grape juice.



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Estrogen dominance is related to low D levels. I was dx-ed officially by an endocrinologist.

As of yesterday, I was able to wake up with the sun in the morning without feeling tired (which was my normal waking schedule when I was in L.A. and getting enough D). It has taken me almost 1.5 years in L.A. to get to this point so you can imagine how low my levels were!

I will have health insurance as of mid-August and will get tested then. For now, I know I am finally getting my levels closer to normal.

As for magnesium, my asthma and allergies get worse if my mag levels go down.

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Question....Is your D level low because you're estrogen dominant?  Or high?  You magnesium
level must be adequate if you feel better after taking MORE D......because if magnesium were
too low to begin with, then additional D might actually lower your magnesium.  IT's a vicious
cycle....Taking extra D doesn't necessarily make me feel better or worse....I just know that without enough magnesium, the D won't go from being in storage to becoming active.

What I do is drink Natural Calm (mag citrate) in small doses all day long....a tsp at a time in
a large glass of water....just so my muscles don't go wonky on me.  People with fibromyalgia
seem to be highly deficient in magnesium and this is a condition more likely to happen in
women...

I was looking all over for this website....finally found it. Lots of good magnesium information.

http://www.mgwater.com/listd.shtml#mgdef

http://www.mgwater.com/estrogen.shtml

Also people  who have had damage to their guts from gluten wind up with malabsorption.....a reason to
use magnesium oil to bypass digestion.  It's likely the reason my magnesium issues exist....Probably have
had issues absorbing all nutrients until I gave up gluten.  It's been 8 years off gluten....Hope my absorption
of minerals has improved!




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It's very educational to hear about all the different ways your bodies are telling you that you're deficient in magnesium (or vitamin D)!  This is one of the many things I really enjoy about this Forum.  People develop much more sensitive relationships with their own bodies through watching what they consume and responding appropriately to signals.  Then you're able to achieve balance more and more quickly.



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It is funny that you mention this, Victoria. I had started taking more magnesium a few weeks ago, but I don't need nearly as much of it as a lot of people seem to think they do! I would never get out of the bathroom!! I hate to think what would happen if I literally bathed in it! I read about one guy, though, who was taking a lot of magnesium, and even though he never got diarrhea from it, he felt terrible and wiped out all the time. They checked his magnesium level eventually and found that he didn't need nearly as much as he was taking, and he started feeling like a new person after he left off a lot of it. Maybe we need more at a given time than we do at others - so it really is important to listen to our bodies and be aware!

So far I am doing well with the K2 from Jarrow. It is unbelievable the work I have been able to do even though we have been having 90 degree weather for a while now. No pain in my hip joints and lower back at night at all.


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Absorbed magnesium doesn't have a laxative effect. It's the magnesium that doesn't get absorbed (that stays in the GI tract) that leads to looser stools. If you take a form of mag that's well absorbed, more gets into tissues and less stays in the colon. Take a poorly absorbed form, and you'll have the laxative effect with very little magnesium actually entering your body. When you bathe in it, the magnesium bypasses the colon and usually doesn't affect digestion at all (unless your body is truly and fully saturated with magnesium and excess makes its way there. I read about ONE case of a guy getting diarrhea from an epsom salts bath, but that's not typical.)

I wish I could "listen to my body and give it what it needs" but I'm having trouble hearing what my body is saying. All I know for certain is that something is out of kilter, but I don't know what. It might even be more than one thing that's wrong, and fixing just one thing (even if needed) may not do the trick.

It's hard to put the puzzle pieces together on my own, with limited resources. I wish I could go to a naturopath, pay for whatever testing he or she wanted done, and then still have money for whatever supplements or treatments were recommended.


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The trick is to use mag oil, take magnesium pills in a form you tolerate and get your calcium from
food.  We're all overly calcified from all the added calcium they keep dumping into foods.  I tried
to buy plain old Welch's grape juice the other day.  Label said "fortified with calcium"......Had to
go to three supermarkets until I found plain grape juice.


Funny, I was looking for grape juice with calcium.   I don't think my son gets enough.  

Re: minerals, I was into the 80's vitamin craze of megadosing and I took a lot of minerals..then all of a sudden, I started triggering migraines from taking so much. I can't take more than a few hundred mgs of magnesium or calcium.. Calcium I can take 500mg now and I also use Tums so that's more but I don't know if I'm even absorbing the Tums?  I mean I trigger a 2 day long migraine taking too much minerals.. So, IDK what's going on now.  The only close thing I found was McDougal who felt we get too much minerals from a SAD and its not good.   I'm not a raw foodist. I don't like raw vegetables.  I gag down salads because I'm supposed to. I usually will make a green smoothie so I can get some raw spinach and kale but that's it. I love my vegetbales... cooked. According to Macrobiotics, vegetables should be eaten cooked and not raw.  Raw broccoli is bad for the thyroid isn't it? Dr. Oz said not to eat raw mushrooms. They should be cooked.  I wish Dr. D would give tips.    I've asked him to do that already.  You know he's reading this..  
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the merc and yeast together mess people up. fibro is intimately related to yeast. mag is used up in detoxing merc, fighting yeast, AND putting D to use.

low D test, according to some, is an indication of mag deficiency. I watched my D spike up and my mag plummet. I am on zero calcium for now (sure it is pulling from all of the soft tissue from depositing where it was not supposed to) and zero D.

I am enjoying the spring sunshine and making what my body can handle.

I am up to 3 teaspoons of ReMag a day and feel like junk if I miss it.

RBC goal according to Dr. Carolyn Dean should be 6.5
Mine plummeted to 4.1 as my D was up and my doc was saying it (D) could go higher. It felt great when I was supplementing, until the plummet.

Will use a UVB lamp in winter most likely next winter and keep supplementation of D to a minimum if at all.

Could it be that those with high D levels (without supplementing) also have a decent RBC mag level? Me thinks it could be so, but no one has been testing for that because D is all the rage. Researchers see the high D and get so excited because these people are not sick. Mag can be pulled from tissue and bones when needed. Could also be that the sun does other great things for us besides D that helps us be healthy?

Would love to see ionic tissue testing become common as it shows tissue levels. And I would love to see mine. Only about 150 hospitals have this.

80% of body functions need mag. about 80% of US deficient in D. about 80% deficient in mag. perhaps body prioritizes other functions for mag than vitamin D production. perhaps that buildup of D from unnatural sources is not the same as the D we make.

perhaps, perhaps, perhaps. much to learn. one thing I think is clear, low Mg intake or a high burn rate is going to make the body do a heck of a lot of prioritization.

it has been stated that none of the Mg researchers (who intimately study Mg) recommend D supplementation. hmm.

this should be viral and in the hands of every heart doc http://health.yahoo.net/experts/dayinhealth/mineral-could-save-your-life#.UX7pXRuMp_E.facebook

as well as this...  http://qjmed.oxfordjournals.org/content/104/10/867.long



p.s. majority of docs have NEVER ordered a RBC test. serum level is useless unless that's low and you are in serious crisis at that point. 1% of mag in serum. in cells, tissue, and bone.
soft tissue calcification is not normal. it is associated with deficiency (for quite awhile) and perhaps of other trace factors.

no d last blood test, increased magnesium significantly, estrogen down, testosterone up. feeling better. food reactions down. less digestion issues, less enzymes needed. mag level RBC still down after briefly going up, suspect the mega amounts are being put to work. detoxing merc though, so? feel a whooole lot better regardless.

you are right about the gluten and absorption issues, Chloe. it should be especially tested in those cases!


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AKArtlover.....Only info I can find on ionic tissue testing is in relation to implants of hip and in some cases issues related to the heart.  Have you had this done?  And if so, would you explain what type of doctor was
astute enough to even request this testing?

Exactly what would a person learn from this?

Carolyn Dean also recommends this form of magnesium. http://www.jigsawhealth.com/supplements/magnesium?source=cj

I'm taking the Remag and don't notice much of anything.  It contains other minerals and trace minerals....Just
not sure it's the right form for me.  Gut instinct tells me it's not....and can't put my finger on why.

I seem to do better on my Natural Calm, although I'm giving the Remag at least one bottle.

Was wondering why you chose Remag over the timed released form.  I sort of feel magnesium goes through my
system quickly which is why the timed release sounds interesting.  I feel good right after I take Natural Calm
but it wears off within a few hours....or less.

Good mag info
http://www.jigsawhealth.com/content/pdf/Magnesium_Deficiency_Report_Jigsaw_Health.pdf


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Magnesium lotion:

Morton salt has gotten into the Magnesium game.

http://www.mortonsalt.com/for-your-home/epsom-salts/epsom-salt-products/189/morton-epsom-lotion/


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As far as I understand to absorb calcium one needs some animal fat. Anyone know if this is true? When we lived in the western states we used to get Dr Bronners calcium/magnesium powder and sprinkle in on our food...try the health shops..its was cheap, tasteless, balanced for absorption and easy to use. I wish I could get it over here. It was a great source. Prior to going to the states I use suffer from leg cramps but they disappeared while I was there and I now suffer from them again...I wonder if it was this product which helped me ...emmmmmm
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Vitamin D enhances calcium absorption.

Saturated fats inhibit calcium absorption.

I do not believe this product is available any more: Dr Bronners calcium/magnesium powder


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AKArtlover.....Only info I can find on ionic tissue testing is in relation to implants of hip and in some cases issues related to the heart.  Have you had this done?  And if so, would you explain what type of doctor was
astute enough to even request this testing?


Dr. Dean is probably one of the few talking about it. She talks about magnesium researchers using it and the results that they were finding in "The Magnesium Miracle"

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Carolyn Dean also recommends this form of magnesium. http://www.jigsawhealth.com/supplements/magnesium?source=cj


I take that occasionally as well. B6 is a cofactor, malic acid has been found helpful in some with fibro or battling yeast overgrowth. I do like slow release, but I break up my ReMag into multiple doses, too. I also have some other B vitamins I take.

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I'm taking the Remag and don't notice much of anything.  It contains other minerals and trace minerals....Just
not sure it's the right form for me.  Gut instinct tells me it's not....and can't put my finger on why.
I seem to do better on my Natural Calm, although I'm giving the Remag at least one bottle.

I'm a big fan of listening to my body. Did post a link on here as well. I have some concern about mag and biofilm. My local doc said some critters can "steal your mag"- I need to get into more depth with him on that. Dr. Dean said something to the effect that you are using up your mag fighting the critters. One to find out more. I seem to be preferring ReMag right now, and I believe it is pushing the merc out pretty quick. Have had to increase my chelation dose and make sure I get it on time. I happen to be one who can feel it moving.

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Was wondering why you chose Remag over the timed released form.  I sort of feel magnesium goes through my
system quickly which is why the timed release sounds interesting.  I feel good right after I take Natural Calm
but it wears off within a few hours....or less.

Good mag info
http://www.jigsawhealth.com/content/pdf/Magnesium_Deficiency_Report_Jigsaw_Health.pdf

I use all three at different times, but I am going heavy on ReMag right now. Someone said it is very adsorbable and like the transdermal, you could just hold it in your hand and it would start absorbing.I think it is really about the pushing the merc out right now. Heavy metals, from what I understand can jam up the cells. Also as I pull out the merc, I need maggie in there from what I am understanding right now. So much to learn. Listening to my body....

ReMag is supposed to be absorbed at the cell level and won't shoot out the other end unless you are supersaturated. Which is why she created it.

Also, the trace minerals are super trace and only there because she derived it from sea water. Super tiny amounts but it was something about labeling clearance. I noticed they changed it on their new bottles.


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In the past few weeks, I've stopped taking vitamin D and increased my magnesium. In addition to the epsom salts baths almost every night and using mag oil almost every day, I've started adding mag citrate (mag oil) and baking soda to my drinking water.

I'm trying to figure out just how much magnesium I'm taking and how much I'm likely to be absorbing. I use about 70 sprays of mag oil on my  body, and about 1/2 teaspoon in water throughout the day (1/8 tsp per 14oz cup of water.) I assume the oral mag is well absorbed since I'm taking it so slowly over time and it's not causing loose stools.

Does anybody know how much mag per spray and how much mag per teaspoonful of mag oil?

Also, I found a few links about magnesium and bicarbonate on that facebook page. I haven't had time to really read them carefully yet, but I'm sharing the links here now so they'll be easier for me to find later. Plus maybe some of you can help me make sense of them.  http://drsircus.com/medicine/m.....-9919cce09f-10691761

http://drsircus.com/medicine/magnesium/the-ultimate-mitochondrial-cocktail

Also, about malic acid: The biggest source seems to be from apples, which are an avoid for O nonnies. What other foods are high in malic acid?


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Ruthie....malic acid info

Malic Acid is mainly found in tart, unripe fruits and most commonly associated with apple. That is because malic acid was first isolated from apple and named on the apple. Malic acid has many health benefits for the body. You can easily get a lot of malic acid from your diet by eating some fruits that are rich in this organic acid.

Natural Food Sources of Malic Acid :

Apples are one of the best sources of malic acid. It is a common saying that an apple a day, keeps the doctor. Part of the excellent health benefits of apples is due to malic acid in tart apples. Green apples therefore have more malic acid than red apples. One should really eat an apple a day as it has wonderful benefits for the body, mind and skin.

Grapes are a source of malic acid containing it in high concentration. Sour grapes have much higher content of malic acid, but it is still present in  sweet ones.

Pineapple is a really tart fruit. Tartness is a real different from sourness. Pineapples leave a tingling taste on the tongue because they are quite tart. They contain a sufficient amount of malic acid.

Other fruits like berries, apricots contain malic acid.


Besides this, malic acid is also a permitted food flavoring and is used in sour candies, potato chips and many other snacks. It is also used as ingredient in skin care products.

And to answer your question about how much magnesium is in mag chloride (aka mag oil)
It's 16 pumps equals 200 mg of magnesium.

"For transdermal magnesium supplementation and relief of aches, pain, soreness and stress, we recommend you put 4–8 tablespoons (2–4 ounces) or more in the bathtub or foot bath, and then soak for a minimum of 20 minutes. We recommend soaking in your magnesium bath on a regular basis for best supplementation. While 2 ounces is a desirable starting level, higher doses (4–16 ounces) used in a bath may produce better results. While you may use the spray pump (16 pumps equals approx. 200 mg of magnesium), for baths and footbaths it may be easier to uncap the bottle and pour the magnesium oil either into a measuring cup or directly into bath water."



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Just came back to put a quick note that I am working with a doctor who is supervising my progress and labs. It's important that docs understand chem/genetic individuality. There are no one size fits alls.

Have to come back later and read your posts Ruth and Chloe.


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I started taking a magnesium citrate with malic acid by Thorne.  Recommended on a website for fibro,
I'm also using Natural Calm in my drinking water, taking Mag glycinate once a day and muscle tightness
is starting to lessen.

The Remag formula I'm taking also, but don't seem to be able to notice improvement when I took it alone. Seem
to get the best results from the malic acid with mag citrate.....which tells me that my problem might not be just a magnesium deficiency as much as the fact that I could use a lot of malic acid.  I eat apples but not 20 per day..  No calcium at all except from food and also taking one of Dr. D's vitamin D supplements.

Here's some great info on malic acid but I'm not using this product.

http://www.energeticnutrition.com/source_naturals/Magnesium-Malate.html

I bought a product by Thorne called MagnesiumCitrimate which seems to be working well.  Having to double the recommended dose, spread
far apart.  Not upsetting my gut at all.

This is interesting.  Carolyn Dean's article on why she hates calcium.

Why I Hate Calcium
Carolyn Dean MD ND | Tuesday, May 18, 2010
I talk all day and every day about magnesium but many people are focused on calcium. Women especially are led to believe that calcium, and lots of it, is necessary to keep their bones from crumbling away. Medically we just imagine that bones are made of calcium and don’t realize the interplay between the two.

However, if you’ve read anything I’ve written about magnesium, you’ll know that magnesium is the dynamo behind calcium. They are both necessary and equally important for strong bones and many other processes in the body.

Here are the words of one of my clients. “It was news to me and might be a shock to your readers, too, when you say to take 1/3 as much calcium as magnesium. All the magnesium/calcium pills I could find had twice as much calcium and magnesium in them. And the other shock was that you hardly advise calcium pills anymore but recommend angstrom calcium.”

Calcium (in the carbonate, citrate and gluconate forms) is only 4-10% absorbed. Unlike magnesium, calcium doesn’t flush itself out with diarrhea if you take too much. Calcium, instead, causes constipation and builds up in the body. Some researchers are saying calcium supplements are responsible for an increase in calcification causing heart disease, kidney stones, gall stones, heel spurs and fibromyalgia. Part of that buildup has to do with the fact that few people take magnesium with their calcium. It also has to do with the type of calcium taken.

Now, as usual, I’m leaping into the abyss here. But I can’t “unknow” what I know about calcium. And what I know is that most of the calcium being used is the wrong kind.

What’s the solution? We should try to get as much calcium as we possibly can from food sources. Go to The World’s Healthiest Foods, type in calcium to get a list of calcium-rich foods. If you do the math, you’ll see that we get much more calcium in our diet than magnesium. But if you need extra calcium take it in the angstrom form.

Angstrom-sized calcium is at a particle size between a nanometer and picometer and fully absorbed at the cellular level. It’s taken in small dosages and there is nothing left over to calcify any part of the body.

I’m often asked about ionic minerals. Ionic means a charge, not a size, so an ionic supplement is not necessarily smaller than any other minerals on the shelf. I asked the last person who inquired if her ionic magnesium gave her a laxative effect. She said it did. Therefore it can’t be an angstrom-sized product. I personally use and recommend a Pico-Ionic form of magnesium now.


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The problem is that many "citrate" products are made with corn. I'm highly reactive to corn, so any supplement with traces of corn in it will NOT help me to feel better.

The last time I took a magnesium malate supplement, I felt worse while taking it. I later realized that the particular formulation was not corn-free. I found out by emailing the company about it after I'd been taking it a while.


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Quoted from ruthiegirl
The problem is that many "citrate" products are made with corn. I'm highly reactive to corn, so any supplement with traces of corn in it will NOT help me to feel better.

The last time I took a magnesium malate supplement, I felt worse while taking it. I later realized that the particular formulation was not corn-free. I found out by emailing the company about it after I'd been taking it a while.


I hear you... it's all about reading labels on everything!  I generally buy from companies that specifically state known allergens....gluten, wheat, dairy, soy, corn.  Sometimes when nothing is
written on the label, I suspect it's because something in the raw materials could be a problem.



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