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UncommonO
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I have never heard of this protein anyone have an opinion? Good , Bad, ugly!
The study made reference to silk worms and spiders
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Here's the paste and the link from the AD:

https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/bpb/33/2/33_2_273/_pdf

"Meso-Morphatein represents one of the highest quality protein sources
available today. Not only is Meso-Morphatein a high quality protein but it
is a different source of protein. Meso-Morphatein is actually hydrolyzed
(pre-digested) silk peptide protein with an average molecular weight of
around 100 to 200 daltons. It is a natural animal protein that is more than
98% pure protein. Meso-Morphatein contains 18 amino acids, including
Leucine, valine, and isoleucine"


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I have never heard of this protein anyone have an opinion? Good , Bad, ugly!





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The hydrolyzation process produces several harmful compounds such as monosodium glutamate that can lead to health problems. According to "Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills," the Food and Drug Administration requires food manufacturers to list MSG as an ingredient when used in the preparation of packaged food. However, FDA regulations do not require the same labeling when a food contains hydrolyzed soy protein, despite the fact that this type of soy contains large quantities of MSG. In fact, some food manufacturers use hydrolyzed soy protein as a flavor enhancer to work around the FDA's MSG labeling requirement.
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I personally avoid anything with "hyrolyzed protein" as an ingredient. I don't trust the process, and I don't trust the source material. Hyrolized soy protein is almost always made from GMO soy, and soy is an "avoid" for me anyway.


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whatever I can t pronounce I much less ingest!!! ha


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I don't go for that "what I can't pronounce" thing. I know enough Latin/scientific terminology to easily pronounce most chemicals I wouldn't want to ingest. But there are some tropical or "exotic" fruits and veggies that are quite healthy that I'm not sure how to pronounce!


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From Dr. D.:
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In the A Protein Blend Powder, soy is the prime protein. Many other protein powders use a 'soy protein isolate', a concentrated fraction of soy, which boosts the protein value, but which can have a negative effect on hormone balance.


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Disadvantages
Consuming large amounts of hydrolyzed whey protein is not recommended. The American Dietetic Association suggests that this can cause your liver to become overloaded, placing it under stress. If you are looking to lose or manage your weight, consuming too much protein can have the opposite effect and cause you to gain weight.  


Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/280362-what-is-hydrolyzed-whey-protein/#ixzz2SSoulmzF


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The study made reference to silk worms and spiders.( YUCK) !!

Also Claimed to raising testosterone levels.?


On a side thought  
Anyone have any Info. on the theory that hydrolyzed whey lessens effect as a dairy making it a better protein for O trying to minimize dairy intake while seeking weight loss.


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On a side thought  
Anyone have any Info. on the theory that hydrolyzed whey lessens effect as a dairy making it a better protein for O trying to minimize dairy intake while seeking weight loss.


No, and I can't imagine why it would interest me even if it were true.
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The only benefit I can see is that hydrolized protein is easier to digest than whey protein concentrate or isolate.
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On a side thought  
Anyone have any Info. on the theory that hydrolyzed whey lessens effect as a dairy making it a better protein for O trying to minimize dairy intake while seeking weight loss.


Maybe it's so processed that the body doesn't really recognize it as being dairy protein anymore? The only way I can think that it would "help weight loss" is simply by providing enough protein; many dieters cut out too much protein (while still eating too many carbs) so any added form of protein may help with weight loss if the diet is overly restrictive.

I don't think that consuming highly processed proteins are a good idea for long-term weight loss, weight maintenance, or overall health. They may  be useful in some specific situations for short-term use, if there are reasons that a person can't eat enough "real food" for a time.


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Maybe it's so processed that the body doesn't really recognize it as being dairy protein anymore? The only way I can think that it would "help weight loss" is simply by providing enough protein; many dieters cut out too much protein (while still eating too many carbs) so any added form of protein may help with weight loss if the diet is overly restrictive.

I don't think that consuming highly processed proteins are a good idea for long-term weight loss, weight maintenance, or overall health. They may  be useful in some specific situations for short-term use, if there are reasons that a person can't eat enough "real food" for a time.


It's really targeted toward bodybuilders who want a fast assimilated protein with minimal impact on digestion.  It also is purported to give less gas than regular whey.
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Hydrolyzed Whey is one of the energy drinks perscibed at the D'adamo Institute in portsmouth NH
Mixed with stracten and physilium


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For some reason, everytime I have some of the DPN protein powder for A's my right side hurts. Now, I know there are people on this forum who can tell exactly what is  hurting in that area if they hurt, but I am not one one of them. My kidney is just below my waist on that side, so there is no telling where everything else might be. I had a serious injury to that side when I was a child.

I don't know why I hurt when I have the protein powder, but I do, and it is a mystery! Nothing else I eat or drink causes exactly that same pain. It doesn't last a long time, and I don't feel any other ill effects except that pain. Strange...


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