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Mayflowers
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Wonder if you know the answer to this question.  Would a recumbent bike be effective as far as being able to stimulate bone?


I know anything that has "resistance" helps to build bone... I bet the bike helps build bone...maybe not as fast as lifting dead weights but the resistance on the bone from the exercise causes bones to get denser to protect against the resistance.  Probably people who walk should wear light weights in a back pack, or around their waist.. 1-3 lbs. Carrying wieghts in your hands causes rotator cuff injury. Not good idea.
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They aren't even mentioning vitamin K

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/256911.php


It is because they are still back in the first half of the last century!


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http://www.webmd.com/osteoporosis/living-with-osteoporosis-7/exercise-weight-bearing
Their recommendations for weight-bearing exercises begins on this page.

Of course, some of these are an anathema to a hiatal hernia.


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Quoted from Spring
http://www.webmd.com/osteoporosis/living-with-osteoporosis-7/exercise-weight-bearing
Their recommendations for weight-bearing exercises begins on this page.

Of course, some of these are an anathema to a hiatal hernia.


Thanks Spring



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Well I finally got to the doctor for the D levels today. Only took an hour and a half.  A lot of sick people there. I hope my levels are up. I came home and made some elderberry tea.  I also got a test for pyelori. Will report back in 7 or so days.  
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I'm making headway with the D level.   I am now up to  45    My Last test was 38.  This is after a spring of tanning salon, being outside more and taking 5,000 ius a day. I don't know whether I should switch back to the Fish Oil D or continue with the GNC D.   It could have been higher. I really should have checked every six months.. I just don't like getting stuck. They always have a hard time finding my vein.
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.. I just don't like getting stuck. They always have a hard time finding my vein.


I also have small veins.  I found it helpful to drink a much larger amount of water for the hours leading up to the blood draw.  (not just right before, or it won't have time to hydrate)



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Quoted from Victoria


I also have small veins.  I found it helpful to drink a much larger amount of water for the hours leading up to the blood draw.  (not just right before, or it won't have time to hydrate)


Thanks for the tip. I keep trying to drink a lot of water all the time. I always have to police myself..
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They always have a hard time finding my vein.


I have a really good vein in my right arm, but they always have to dig around to find on in my left arm...



It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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Quoted from Drea

I have a really good vein in my right arm, but they always have to dig around to find on in my left arm...


The nurse took my blood our of my right inside wrist!  I have a large vein there bulging..
wimp..    It depends on the phlebotomist and usually guys can take it from my arm with no problem better than the women. This nurse was a guy so I was surprised he chickened out searching on my inside elbow usual area.   I usued to give blood for the research people at my job but they had a hard time and decided I wasn't worth being poked.  These were doctors too. I guess it's an art.

Anyway before I go get ready for work,  45 Drea it only took 2 years to get it up there!  I started in 2010 I think.
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I'm making headway with the D level.   I am now up to  45    My Last test was 38.  This is after a spring of tanning salon, being outside more and taking 5,000 ius a day. I don't know whether I should switch back to the Fish Oil D or continue with the GNC D.   It could have been higher. I really should have checked every six months.. I just don't like getting stuck. They always have a hard time finding my vein.


My levels went from 33 to 63 or so (I forget exactly) in about 4 or 5 months of taking 10,000 iu per day. If your levels aren't rising as fast as you think they should be, maybe you need to take higher doses? (Also, don't forget that I was already taking 4,000-5,000 iu per day when I got the 33 reading, so I clearly need higher doses.)


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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My levels went from 33 to 63 or so (I forget exactly) in about 4 or 5 months of taking 10,000 iu per day. If your levels aren't rising as fast as you think they should be, maybe you need to take higher doses? (Also, don't forget that I was already taking 4,000-5,000 iu per day when I got the 33 reading, so I clearly need higher doses.)


Good to know. I was trying 10,000 and I felt weird.. I can try it again. Might have been the brand...
I want to see if my LDL dropped from stopping the fish oil ... The doctor's office just left a message saying my labwork was all normal.   I had to call them back and ask them to send me the labwork.
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You could alternate 10,000 one day and 5,000 the next (1 or 2 pills of 5,000 each) or you could take 7,000 a day (a 5,000 pill plus a 2,000 pill). You don't have to jump to 10,000 a day if you think that's too much for you.


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You could alternate 10,000 one day and 5,000 the next (1 or 2 pills of 5,000 each) or you could take 7,000 a day (a 5,000 pill plus a 2,000 pill). You don't have to jump to 10,000 a day if you think that's too much for you.


Hey I found this fish liver vitamin D by Jarrow.. (good brand) at the GNC site. Only $7.95 ...
But I'd have to take 5 a day at least.  But still it's only $7.95 instead of $34 for fish oil D by Bluebonnet which that was the price at Whole Paycheck.    I might try that.  I was looking at the GNC brand of D and the first ingredient is dicalcium phosphate so I'm not thinking I'm absorbing much of it.    

Well I did the math and it comes out almost the same because the bluebonnet is 250 soft gels. If I buy it on iherb then it's 23.16 plus $4 shipping which = $27.  I can go buy it in the HFS down street for $30

http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3926285
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I went to the store that I thought carried Bluebonnet fish oil D. They didn't have any. I ended up at Whole Foods. They had it and for only $11.99.    So now I'm on the fish oil D again. I'm taking 3 now. That's 6,000 ius.  Now I have to re test in 6 months.    yippee I get to be stuck again.
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My levels went from 33 to 63 or so (I forget exactly) in about 4 or 5 months of taking 10,000 iu per day.


How much do you take now? Are you trying to maintain 63?  I'd be happy with 63.
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I just went to the dr today, and got the results from last week's labs. My vitamin D level is now 57, after taking 10,000 iu daily for the past year.


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Ruthie, what brand are you taking?


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I'm taking NOW brand D3 in olive oil. I buy the 5,000 iu capsules and  take two a day.


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I still wonder why it is that I need to take 10,000 iu of vitamin D daily to maintain a healthy level. Am I using up an enormous amount of D, or am I only able to absorb a small portion of what I ingest?

I've always taken my D with or shortly after a fatty meal. I was doing that when I was taking 5,000 iu a day and developed the deficiency. I'm still doing that when taking 10,000 iu a day and maintaining a healthy level. I was doing that when I temporarily took 15,000 or even 20,000 on some days, and my levels got over 90 and my dr suggested I cut back.


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I still wonder why it is that I need to take 10,000 iu of vitamin D daily to maintain a healthy level. Am I using up an enormous amount of D, or am I only able to absorb a small portion of what I ingest?


Maybe your body thinks 67 is too high and is fighting you. Dr. Oz said D level should be 50. Dr. D never said anything about it. So, unless you go see him, forget it. You know D can become toxic. It doesn't matter what you read, its about your body only.
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A quick websearch reveals that Vitamin D toxicity causes excess calcium in the blood, and this excess calcium appears to be the direct cause of most of the health problems. http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/about-vitamin-d/am-i-getting-too-much-vitamin-d/

I just grabbed my latest lab test results, and I see that my calcium WAS tested and is within the normal range. Additionally, the Vitamin D council defines Vitamin D toxicity as "above 150 ng/ml" while my levels of both "total" and "D3" is 57.

If I'm looking for  a level of "around 50" then I'd say I'm pretty close to the target.

I also don't have any signs of hypercalcemia/hypervitamin D. My appetite is fine- and the other symptoms (muscle pain, fatigue) I've had for years, including when my vitamin D level was low.


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There are differences among Vitamin D methods, making a universal reference range difficult to establish. Total 25-hydroxyvitamin D (D2 + D3) is the correct measure of Vitamin D status. There is currently no consensus on the level which indicates deficiency.

http://labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/vitamin-d/tab/test#what


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The Vitamin D council originally stated that levels of D as high as 100 could be safe.  I don't know who or what brought that number down to 50 as the value to achieve.  My levels have been in the high 60s to low 70s with normal kidney function.  Doctors have been happy seeing my levels this high. I never take more than 5,000 iu in winter and hardly take more than 1,000 iu in summer
if I'm getting sun...I've been sitting in the sun all week for 30 minutes a day and only took a minimal amount of D this week.

Could it be that people who take D without K2 plus also take in too much calcium without balancing it with adequate magnesium are the ones having issues?  Magnesium I believe might be more difficult to absorb than calcium.  Most people aren't getting K2 or eating foods high in K2....

Regardless of the actual number results of our D3 testing.....how do any of us know where our
calcium is actually going?  Into bone or soft tissue?  What measures where our calcium is going?

I'm thinking if D levels are high and bone density is low then calcium is likely going down the
wrong path.

Does anyone know if Calcium D glucorate which is in Detoxical is actual calcium?  Would a person not
want to take another form of calcium if taking this supplement?


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A quick websearch reveals that Vitamin D toxicity causes excess calcium in the blood, and this excess calcium appears to be the direct cause of most of the health problems. http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/about-vitamin-d/am-i-getting-too-much-vitamin-d/
If I'm looking for  a level of "around 50" then I'd say I'm pretty close to the target.
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Perhaps your body is fighting you before the toxicity occurs to stop taking so much. You quoted another link.. As I said   Its about what your body tolerates. Like If I belived what I read only, about fish oil, I'd be having all kinds of heart problems. So its really your call.
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