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There have been many questions on how, when or even how much to take of a supplement we should take. I thought maybe a thread with all the helpful "know how" would be handy. Here are two I'm picked up just recently:

Vit c should only be taken in 500mg increments as your body an only absorb that  amount at one time.

I just learned that you should take your supplement oils with protein, which polarizes the fat molecules so that they can be adsorbed across the intestines

I'm sure there are other supplement know hows.  


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http://www.herbal-supplement-resource.com/index.html

This is a great reference for herbs.  If you look up the supplement, it gives you the traditional uses, dosage, recipes, counter-indications, and side effects.  If you look up a condition, it makes recommendations.

I plan to print out the page for every supplement I take.  

For instance, did you know that pregnant women shouldn't take ginger?  It might cause contractions.

Unfortunately, they don't list minerals, vitamins, or other supplements like mushrooms and fish oil.


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I just read this:

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Caution: Do not take Arabinogalactan if you have autoimmune disease, macula degeneration, cataract.


Is it true?


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I just read this:



Is it true?


Where did you read it? Source, please!


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Bad Monkey Botanicals: https://www.badmonkeybotanical.....actan-extract-powder

They sell bulk herbs and extracts that you encapsulate yourself.  I buy them and then mix them into my smoothie so I don't ingest all that capsule material.  

I don't have any of the conditions mentioned but my sister has cataracts and my BFF has macular degeneration so I can't recommend it to them, if it's true.


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Bad Monkey Botanicals: https://www.badmonkeybotanical.....actan-extract-powder

They sell bulk herbs and extracts that you encapsulate yourself.  I buy them and then mix them into my smoothie so I don't ingest all that capsule material.  

I don't have any of the conditions mentioned but my sister has cataracts and my BFF has macular degeneration so I can't recommend it to them, if it's true.


My suggestion is to ask the folks at NAP what their thoughts are. It doesn't say anything like this on the larch powders that NAP sells...


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Quoted from Drea
Where did you read it? Source, please!


http://healingrecipes.ws/protocoo-treatment-for-chronic-stress
Scroll down the page about half-way.
Dr. D. says: http://www.dadamo.com/science_larch.htm
A long entry that I don't have the time to read right now.


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Quoted from Spring

Dr. D. says: http://www.dadamo.com/science_larch.htm
A long entry that I don't have the time to read right now.


At least you are lucky you do not have the time... I do not have the understanding .

I have to be careful with my macula and am now afraid of taking it. I take it regularly for a healthy colon which Dr. D says it is our achilles tendon (hunters).

Help please.



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http://healingrecipes.ws/protocoo-treatment-for-chronic-stress
Scroll down the page about half-way.
Dr. D. says: http://www.dadamo.com/science_larch.htm
A long entry that I don't have the time to read right now.


From Dr.D's link:
SAFETY AND TOXICITY

Preliminary acute toxicity tests performed on albino rats have indicated that larch arabinogalactan is significantly less toxic than methyl cellulose (48). Other studies have shown that laboratory diets comprising of up to 50% larch arabinogalactan had no apparent ill-effects on animal subjects after 6 months (47).

Larch arabinogalactan is FDA approved for use in food applications as per 121.1174 and 121.1219 (Code of Federal Regulations, Title 21, 1974)and may be safely used as anemulsifier, stabilizer, binder, or bodying agent in essential oils, nonnutritive sweeteners, flavor bases,non-standard dressings, and pudding mixes. The use of Larch arabinogalactan has also been formally approved by the Canadian Governor-in-Council (Canada Gazette, Part II, Vol. 105, January 27, 1971).

I searched the whole article for the keywords "eye" and "cataract" and came up with zero matches.

I still suggest a call to the reps at NAP. I trust them to tell the truth.


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Thank you Drea. It is a good idea to contact NAP. I trust them too. I'll look for an e-mail address thou. Phones at this end of the Atlantic are far more expensive than the USA  .

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Thank you Drea. It is a good idea to contact NAP. I trust them too. I'll look for an e-mail address thou.


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This is from another website:

Arabinogalactan (from Larch)It reduces high level of long term induced stress adrenaline/Cortisol, it is ideal for long term stress, it is an immune booster (immune-stress balance)     

Do not take Arabinogalactan if you have autoimmune diseases such as lupus or macular degeneration, any kind of eyes problems f.e. cataract and any kind of problems with thyroid and if you take medical drug thyroxin

http://www.guidetostressmanagement.com/articles/shingles-and-stress.html

We need some guidance on this. But I'm not holding my breath.


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Arabinogalactan: Arabinogalactan's effects on blood sugar and insulin levels have been studied. In people without diabetes, it has not been shown to affect these levels. Additional research is needed for patients with hyperglycemia.
Avoid if allergic or sensitive to arabinogalactan or larch. People who are exposed to arabinogalactan or larch dust may have irritation of the eyes, lungs, or skin. Use cautiously in people with diabetes, digestive problems, or immune system disorders, and in people who consume a diet that is high in fiber or low in galactose. Arabinogalactan should not be used during pregnancy or breastfeeding.

My take from this is that when you don't know anything about something, you throw every red flag available at it!
Dr. Weil goes ballistic over this type supplement.   What does he know?  

There is a lengthy article at the Tufts Medical Center's website:
https://www.tuftsmedicalcenter.org/apps/HealthGate/Article.aspx?chunkiid=111700

There is a very specific reason that I am very interested in knowing more about ARA.


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Mannatech, Incorporated has entered into an exclusive arrangement with Swiss-based Lonza to purchase and market worldwide fiber harvested from the American larch tree. Mannatech will be the only company allowed to purchase the fiber, arabinogalactan, from Lonza when it is to be used in nutritional supplements containing any two of the following ingredients: naturally derived gums and resins, aloe extract, algal extract or glucosamine. All these ingredients are found in Mannatech's flagship Ambrotose complex, the company's proprietary supplement containing a patented blend of plant sacharides, including arabinogalactan. Lonza currently is the only firm harvesting the soluble and odorless fiber from the American larch. Known as one of the fastest-growing trees in North America, the larch was a staple among early Native Americans, who used the tree's resin, leaves and bark for medicinal food and cosmetic applications. Arabinogalactan, which is the most abundant ingredient in Ambrotose, contains dietary sugars. It is thought that arabinogalactan derived from the American larch exists in higher concentrations than the protein-bound arabinogalactan found in many other plants. Arabinogalactan can be extracted from the cell lumen in its natural state by soaking the wood chips in water. Unlike other processes that use chemicals to extract arabinogalactan from plants, Lonza uses a patented process that utilizes only steam and water.


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