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PCUK-Positive
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and sleep from 10 pm to 6 am of course


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I can't sleep at all right now, I just feel my heart pounding, and have to go to the bathroom constantly.
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That isn't somatype...
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Quoted from PCUK-Positive

and as someone said stop ALL supps for a few weeks reboot your system.


This could really work for you.

You have tried/ done/ are doing so many things it is getting hard to get a feel for your 'ground zero' point.

Leaving everything away is like the equivalent of an exclusion diet. Hopefully you wouldn't feel very bad/ sick doing something like this...

After that your 'new' reactions to foods/ supplements might point you more definitely in the right direction than they do now.

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No, how do I find that out?

Right now all I know is I'm the biggest idiot there is with women. I hope your uncle has it better.

I don't get enough of anything in the right way. Spent all night on the toilet after taking magnesium malate, and stomach uncomfortable. That and being rather upset about my life ^ kept me up all night.

I sent in my pictures to http://mysomatotype.com/ to maybe get more clarification. Also I may get to go to Bridgeport depending on when available appointments are.


It's another personality theory. I think it's helpful in explaining people's motivations while MBTI explains the way people think. I think it helps to explain a person better when you combine the two theories. Here's more about it - http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/intro.asp.

Lol, sorry to hear that.  Actually, he's still single but I don't think he's looking.

That's really rough

I think that would be good as the people here can only offer/brainstorm so much.
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I feel like hell after exercising today. I mean something feel sorta nice, like my body, but damn my head hurts. Stomach didn't like the amount of olive oil I had or something too.


exercizing can stimulate cortisol....maybe go easy and do gentle yoga or walking (not fast)

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I've tried for days, but just can't get the thought out of my head that since garlic hurts/burns your stomach, that it could be doing some damage too...
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I sent in my pictures to http://mysomatotype.com/ to maybe get more clarification. Also I may get to go to Bridgeport depending on when available appointments are.

Somatotype originally required a nude photo.  This was a big obstacle to research in this field and practically brought it to a standstill.

Well, whatever in the world did they expect other than it would practically come to a standstill???     They must have been a bit slow or something.....

Hope this works out for you to get to Bridgeport!! That would be great!


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If you want to try the raw garlic this might help ease the burning feeing.

Make a piece of toast and put whatever is compliant for you that is buttery tasting and chop up a good sized fresh clove of garlic and put it on the bread.

That's what I'm doing right now and then I brush my teeth and chew some sugarless gum afterward.

The garlic supplements aren't effective enough.


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Garlic supps do nothing for me.
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I can't sleep at all right now, I just feel my heart pounding, and have to go to the bathroom constantly.


exactly what liquids are you drinking and how much?

try not to drink anything after 9.30 pm preferable earlier. no stimulants after 6 pm, eventually your heart will stop racing and you will sleep. and when you can sleep (at the right time) it will help.some people figure this out early in life most people take a lifetime to figure it out.

also everything in moderation when you are ill. no heavy exercise, no boozing, no excess food of any kind, rest and relaxation, and a clean diet or short fasting.





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hi DOS
write down what you eat every day and the reactions of your body. I am attaching my Excel spreadsheet to help


http://lacucinadilux.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/scheda-alimentare-di-lux-inglese.xls
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I don't drink anything but water

Most of the time I try not to drink green tea more than once a day so I can sleep.

Actually after all the bathroom issues, I feel better in-between them now. Before I go I'm kind of emotional and sick feeling.
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how much water do you drink?

do you get any fluids from other things like high water fruits (watermelon) or vegetables.

if it goes out, it has to get in somehow

and is the one green tea a measured cup or 8 oz or a pint? ....

how much protein do you have a day in weight?

are you 26, you seem to have been around here a long time


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Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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DOS have you ever tried a fiber supplement like metamucil or an equivalent generic brand?  Fiber can really help with the digestive issues and inflammation you are having, and helps the system move toxins out.

With the exercise it is normal to have trouble getting to sleep in the beginning especially if you are exercising in the afternoon or evening, and even more if you are not used to the activity yet, or if you step up the exercise too much at one time even if you are in shape.

I think A's esp. should step up gradually and not use too much force and exhertion in the beginning, but this applies to all people getting into exercise. Overtraining and pushing hard without recovery breaks down the body without letting it rebuild.  That is stress on the body.

I like cycling, and cyclists can get addicted!  They say start in a low gear and do not increase mileage by more than 10 percent in a week.  I enjoy easier riding in a low gear using good form rather than pounding it in a big gear.  I started to much to fast though and did not sleep well the first few nights.  
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Thought I should mention - my stomach has also been on the fritz this week after eating avoids on the weekend.  And by that I mean pretty much what you described - gas, stomach cramps and then loose stools which are far from normal (raggedy).  I know, gross.  Anyway, the ONLY thing that personally works for me when I'm like this is eating only certain things for at least a day and a half.  So that means no oats, no nuts, no beans, no kale, no pumpkin. My stomach can't digest these things properly when it's like this.  Only thing I personally found I can digest is - my super fruits (so like strawberries, grapes etc.), cucumbers, lemon, brown rice pasta, garlic, olive oil (I know you said you had trouble with garlic and oils though), sea salt. That's it.  I keep rebelling against doing those things though out of anxiety and break down and eat oatmeal or kale.  But if I follow eating only those things for a day and a half I go right back to normal bowel movements, no more stomach cramps from gas, no more problems.

I really hope you get everything figured out. It took some process of elimination to figure this out for myself.
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Green tea is probably 8oz or less since I drink it iced during summer.

I eat apples sometimes. Watermelon and other fruits are generally from just opportunity as I don't have lots of money to buy fruit all the time. I do like pineapple though.

Protein amount I don't know. I try to make sure I get like yogurt, or tuna, or something at least once. In the past I tried the Type A protein but find it is a huge stomach bomb for me, so it isn't fun to consume for me. Plus I'm not sure it works without HCL.

Lots of fiber doesn't work in this state. My body doesn't like to hydrate it enough. When things are flowing better then it is nice.

Garlic is fine with me, just intense at first. Oil I just... I feel repelled by very much of it even though I use to consume more of it.
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ahem!! how much in weight protein of each kind a day please.


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When I work I eat tuna fish, probably like 3-6oz. There is protein in beans and things I eat too. Sometimes I have standard sized yogurt container that has whey in it.

If I eat eggs I usually eat two.

Can't tell you much more. I probably average at least 5oz a day.
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Sounds like me. I have chronic inflammation and other issues too. I tried SWAMI and it does not work for me. I have to keep my diet much more restricted. It's doable, that's for sure. I have been set off for the past two weeks so as with you, erratic and bad sleeping (if you get any) habits. I go back to bare bones, starting over until I get off track again. And not by indulging in grains, cheeses, cakes, etc, I mean, little things like too much watermelon or another natural food. It's frustrating because you don't what it is because it's all considered healthy and it doesn't affect you right away but sneaks up on you when you go to bed and who knows what it was! I do hate that life goes this way - up and down, what is safe to eat, starting over, etc. but that's what it is and I keep plugging away at my way of eating. Luckily, I've been off dairy and gluten long enough they aren't an issue for cravings but there still is a lot more to worry about.
I hope it helps you aren't the only one. Just keep at it, it beats the meds any day. Sorry, don't have any advice really as my body is different and am still working at my own issues but don't let the frustration get to you and if it does you know for sure you are consuming products you shouldn't. I am "crazy" when off track beating myself up for not being able to do it and the like but when I scale back on my food and eat very safe - elimination style safe, I can refocus to get back on track. Okay, a little advice, I make green smoothies during these days with my safe foods - with lots of crushed ice.
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Have you both tried intrinsa?


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To me, it seems like you have a lot of supplementation going on that ( all together ) is not working harmoniously.

May I suggest weaning yourself off of most if not all of the non ERFYT protocols and see what happens?


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