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Firstly...to explain...

Quote from Dr.D: "Autophagy (‘self-eating’) is a catabolic (breakdown) process used by cells to degrade and remove some of their internal components deemed to be unnecessary or undesirable."

Now....here's the point...

Quoted from Dr.D's post in (n=1): "One interesting agent with well-recognized effects on autophagy is the natural disaccharide sugar trehalose, a sugar produced by bonding two glucose molecules together in a way that differs significantly from the sugar on top of a jelly donut. Trehalose is found in many organisms, including bacteria, yeast, fungi, insects, invertebrates, and plants. It functions to protect the integrity of the cell against various environmental stresses like heat, cold, desiccation, dehydration, and oxidation by preventing the screwing-up of the cell’s protein insides.

Extracting trehalose used to be a difficult and costly process, but recently an inexpensive extraction technology has allowed for its use in a broad spectrum of applications. Trehalose prevents cells from dehydrating, a phenomena that disrupts much of the cell’s insides in way that are not reparable. Trehalose-treated cells seem to resist this because the trehalose ‘splints’ their guts in place, so that when the cells get a chance to rehydrate they come back good-as-new. Dehydrated cells are common with aging, as the aging process tends to thin out the cell membrane, making it harder and harder for the cell to maintain its internal water balance.

Trehalose has been accepted as a novel food ingredient under the GRAS terms in the U.S. and the EU. Trehalose has also found commercial application as a food ingredient. It is available in dietary supplement form http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP067" (Quote end)

I didn't know where to post this to ask the question: Can Trehalose be used to sweeten foods?

Yes, probably too expensive to use in regular cookin/ baking but so are the other healthy
options. So rather than taking it as a supplement could one use it to substitute 'sugar' and so 'kill two birds with one stone'? (As in use a supplement you'd want to use anyway while cutting out 'sugar' in a recipe where you'd still use it despite that we all know one shouldn't   )

PS: I highly recommend reading the whole blog- it explains the above in 'plain english' and makes you want to learn more!  http://n-equals-one.com/blogs/
There are so many things to know and explore about our bodies and so many more facets to 'Eating Right' than I ever imagined....WOW.
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My suggestion is to taste a bit of it to see whether it has a sweet flavor.  If it does, then it would be useful for uncooked items.  
You might want to research whether heating will cause any known negative effects, but I doubt it since it occurs naturally in plants.  Next would be to add it to something cooked or baked to see if the flavor changed during those processes.

You might have more problem with "overdose" than with anything else...  Remember that most things in over-abundance become problems...


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Dr. D'Adamo does not recommend taking Trehalose with green tea or quercetin.


knock yourself out adding it to your morning smoothy.....
I wouldn t bake with it though, or cook


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Here's a totally anecdotal story. I've been watching an age spot develop slowly on the right side of my nose, probably the result of sun exposure from sailing. I've been taking trehalose (1 tblsp daily in grapefruit juice for about two weeks). Yesterday Martha remarked that the spot seems to have lightened to the point of almost disappearing. I noticed another one on the back of my right hand also lightening.


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knock yourself out adding it to your morning smoothy.....
I wouldn t bake with it though, or cook


Trehalose can be used in cooking and baking. Here is an example of a product that is currently being actively advertised online:

http://www.basspro.com/LEM-Tre.....39385ef4  

But I would not use Dr. D.'s product for this since it contains other ingredients and is designed to be a supplement rather than for cooking.

When buying Trehalose from other places, be a little careful about the source, most of the time it is just corn starch cut up into two glucose units.


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My suggestion is to taste a bit of it to see whether it has a sweet flavor.  If it does, then it would be useful for uncooked items.  

You might have more problem with "overdose" than with anything else...  Remember that most things in over-abundance become problems...


It has a sweet taste but it is not strong enough to do much to sweeeten food items, in my personal experience.



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Trehalose is about 45% as sweet as sucrose (sugar at the grocery store).


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I like it mixed with grapefruit juice!  It would be really nice to be able to bake with it.  I wonder if it could be used in combination with agave so you could reduce the amount of that. I find agave too addicting.
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right C,

I was only talking about Dr D s formula.


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Cooking with Trehalose  http://www.squidoo.com/trehalose


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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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Trehalose baths... a new reason to use a tub again.
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I'm hoping I have the same result Dr. D had with a brown spot on my face disappearing.  I've been taking a small amount everyday for a few weeks.
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I have been taking this as a supplement for about two weeks.  I probably won't notice anything but at least I will be doing some good with my cells.
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I have been taking this as a supplement for about two weeks.  I probably won't notice anything but at least I will be doing some good with my cells.


Positive thinking, NHG. If you think you won't notice anything, then you won't notice anything.

Think about how awesome it is and how you feel better right after you take it.


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One thing many people don't realize is that the body will take care of priorities... It may be that there is some important healing that is higher priority in your body than in others... The proof is in the persistence.




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the body will take care of priorities... The proof is in the persistence.

Well said, Lola! I should stick this line on my refrigerator door, !



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This is really interesting! Seems like Trehalose could be used as a deodorant!?!?!  



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Pretty impressive list of things it's supposed to help!
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This is really interesting! Seems like Trehalose could be used as a deodorant!?!?!  



I would think it's an internal deodorant due to its' effect on the cells.



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Well, thanks guys for all the links!

Sure made for some very interesting reading- very intrigued with the age spots and the anti 'old wo/man smell' bath

Being able to use it in baking is great, because I do miss the cakes and biscuits even if I don't want to eat them for the sweetness- they are just more of a treat than eating an egg or a slice of beef

So where to get my hands on some....

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When buying Trehalose from other places, be a little careful about the source, most of the time it is just corn starch cut up into two glucose units.


C_Sharp, what source should it come from? Would it say on the packet?

I don't think I can get it here in Ireland- might have to order it in from the States...which would be a good brand to get?

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It's sold in Dr. D's online store.

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP067



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It's sold in Dr. D's online store.

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP067


This is great as a supplement but way too expensive to cook with!


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So, trehalose is two glucose molecules C6H12O6, nothing more, nothing less. Please explain to me why it matters how, or from what, it is made? Dr. D, really would love some input on this one.


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So, trehalose is two glucose molecules C6H12O6, nothing more, nothing less. Please explain to me why it matters how, or from what, it is made?

The only reason I can think of is if, as C# said, it is cut down corn starch and the processor wasn't watching quality well, some uncut starch could be in your package of trehalose.  

I have no idea, however, how likely this is to happen.


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Dr. D has never said it matters.

Things made from corn generally make me sick.  For many people this does not matter they can eat corn.

I am therefore leery of buying corn products (especially those from agricultural giant Cargill-which loves to use genetically modified corn).

Trehalose used to called mushroom sugar and products made from mushroom are expensive.

A few years ago Hayashibara and Cargill discovered you could make trehalose cheaply by throwing a few enzymes on some corn starch and splitting up the starch in smaller units.

If you can eat other products made from corn-

Acetic acid
Ascorbates
Citric acid
Dextrose
Fructose
Fumaric acid
Germ/germ meal
Glucose syrup
Maltitol
Maltodextrin
Maltol
Maltose
Propionic acid

My guess is you will do fine on trehalose.

Obviously if things were 100% pure without anything else it would not matter what was the original source.

But my experience is most food products made from corn are not at 100% purity levels.

The products are not labeled with purity and I cannot afford to send them to labs for testing.








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Obviously if things were 100% pure without anything else it would not matter what was the original source.

But my experience is most food products made from corn are not at 100% purity levels.

The products are not labeled with purity and I cannot afford to send them to labs for testing.


Understood,

I wonder what's the source of the trehalose Dr.D is using?



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So where to get my hands on some....



C_Sharp, what source should it come from? Would it say on the packet?

I don't think I can get it here in Ireland- might have to order it in from the States...which would be a good brand to get?



In Ireland nearly all trehalose products are Treha™ (Cargill's brand of Trehalose) whether the packets say Treha™ or not. This is because EU regulations grants Cargill pretty much exclusive rights to the market (at least that is the way it appears to me). It is regulated as a "novel food ingredient."

Treha™ is made from corn starch.



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I could see minimally distruptive grains with uncooked trehalose confection spreads paired with Yera Mate mix infusion for the health conscious who want something nice for tea.  Replacing some of the agave or glycerine in the Carob extract product might lead to a great confection.

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I noticed that the company that developed the Treha™ product for Cargill also sells Trehalose SG, for use in the pharmaceutical industry (mostly for eye drops).

This product is supposed to be more pure.

Specification sheet:

http://www.amcan-ingredients.com/pages/TrehaloseSG-Specifications.pdf

Spec sheet for Treha™ (It is greater than 98% pure Trehalose)

http://msds.plantprod.com/document/960

More general info on the food grade product (Treha™) for those not into specs:

http://www.hayashibara-intl.com/food/documents/TREHAWEB_000.pdf


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C_sharp, you really are on the ball!
Thank you so much for the links- forewarned is fore-armed  

Bottomline- it is amazing, versatile stuff and well worth searching for a good source for!

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I know what source of Ribose he uses... One company has their mark on everything it is in! I am actually going to try some of the Trehalose (not from NAP) with the Ribose I already have. I figured it'll be cheaper this way until I am taking less Ribose.
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Well I instantly responded to it. I feel.... hungry again? CRAZY.
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I have an age spot on my right cheek and left temple...will see how they look after two month dose of this sweet stuff


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After less than a month's daily ingestion of 1 tsp of NAP's Trehalose(lucky I got it while on sale  ), a brown/age spot on my nose has shrunk significantly in size!   I also seem to have less fine lines on my face and my memory seems to have gotten better already. Love this product!!!


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it clearly states

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    Dr. D'Adamo does not recommend taking Trehalose with green tea or quercetin.


knock yourself out adding it to your morning smoothy.....
I wouldn t bake with it though, or cook


Lola, do you have any more info on why green tea and quercetin would conflict?  Or how far apart they would need to be?  

I'd like to add it to smoothies, but after the breakfast smoothie is when I have a couple of mugs of green tea.



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I d say around a half hour after

DPN might have an exact answer for you


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Thanks Lola.    I've started drinking the Trehalose as soon as I get into the kitchen in the morning.  It's very pleasant tasting.  That works for me.



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as for shipping it over sea.. poor two into one container.. saves on postage.. the jr is bigger then its content.. pays to order several as postage is getting more expensive.........     as just a sugar substitute it might be costly.. and only a level tea spoon is needed.. a little goes a long way ...  

I am trying it .. works better then sugar on anything.. and I might try it as deodorant.. like on a washcloth..  

eating with grapefruit DR D suggestion.. might make the grapefruit sweet.. mmmhm

am hoping that it will dramatically improve neuropathy.. and if some brown spots on my hands disapear ok too..as for the brain.. welllll today i sat by the computer for several hours reading intricate stuff.. could it be that Trehalose helped my concentration?  


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am hoping that it will dramatically improve neuropathy.. and if some brown spots on my hands disapear ok too..as for the brain.. welllll today i sat by the computer for several hours reading intricate stuff.. could it be that Trehalose helped my concentration?  

Neuro issues are definitely aided by better autophagy - from reading several articles on Pubmed...  The brain is largely nerve tissue, so it should be helped greatly by increased autohagy.  

Dr. D. commented that age spots were lightening after a couple of weeks use of Trehalose and grapefruit juice.


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...and I might try it as deodorant.. like on a washcloth.. .
Victoria was intimating it would work from internal deoderising Otherwise you'd find the washcloth would absorb most of it I reckon...
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I would think it's an internal deodorant due to its effect on the cells.

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I d say around a half hour after

DPN might have an exact answer for you


I called DPN they did say 1/2 hour.  Do you consider yerba mate' green tea? It has quercetin in it according to the food data base.


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I would treat quercetin the same as green tea for the purposes of keeping it away from trehalose. Quercetin, green tea, coffee all act in ways that are somewhat opposed to trehalose, antioxidants are going to prevent the destruction of cells and trehalose is the clean-up crew promoting autophagy.


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Quercetin, green tea, coffee all act in ways that are somewhat opposed to trehalose, antioxidants are going to prevent the destruction of cells and trehalose is the clean-up crew promoting autophagy.


Thanks!  This makes sense.



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I know what source of Ribose he uses... One company has their mark on everything it is in! I am actually going to try some of the Trehalose (not from NAP) with the Ribose I already have. I figured it'll be cheaper this way until I am taking less Ribose.
Really glad you are finding success with the Trehalose you are taking   Do you mind telling me what brand it is please?

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Really glad you are finding success with the Trehalose you are taking   Do you mind telling me what brand it is please?



I don't think it is possible to matter what brand it happens to be... Trehalose is trehalose. There are only two molecules per bit of it. It might come from corn but it is indigestible and so far from resembling food... To me it seems like there shouldn't even be traces of anything left in it.

I had some from LEM, now I have some from Swanson. The D-Ribose is a sugar that gives life to cells (energy) and then you open the opportunity for them to function well with Trehalose. The combination is going to promote function of cells well, where as just Trehalose is going to detox them.

You could combine large amounts of Trehalose, say like 1-2 lbs, with one bottle of D-Ribose. (6 to 1 relationship) and then some citrus pectin (won't probably be as good as NAP's modified version, at 12 to 1). A reason to buy a huge amount of it is if you want to use it as a sweetener, on skin, etc. The recommended amount from NAP per day isn't that high, and will last quiet awhile.
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Tried my first glass of grapefruit juice with 1 Tbsp trehalose & 1 Tbsp of Larch. Stir & drink.

Good stuff!
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I would treat quercetin the same as green tea for the purposes of keeping it away from trehalose. Quercetin, green tea, coffee all act in ways that are somewhat opposed to trehalose, antioxidants are going to prevent the destruction of cells and trehalose is the clean-up crew promoting autophagy.


I've been wondering about all the other antioxidants that those of us using supplements are taking, such as vitamins C and E, curcumin, selenium, ginger, carnosine -- just for starters.  There are a lot of antioxidants and to give Trehalose the best conditions for benefiting us, I don't know how much we need to avoid taking it around any of these.



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I've been wondering about all the other antioxidants that those of us using supplements are taking, such as vitamins C and E, curcumin, selenium, ginger, carnosine -- just for starters.  There are a lot of antioxidants and to give Trehalose the best conditions for benefiting us, I don't know how much we need to avoid taking it around any of these.

I've been wondering the same thing.....


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Sometimes I add it to ginger tea. Better switch back to grapefruit juice.


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I've been wondering about all the other antioxidants that those of us using supplements are taking, such as vitamins C and E, curcumin, selenium, ginger, carnosine -- just for starters.  There are a lot of antioxidants and to give Trehalose the best conditions for benefiting us, I don't know how much we need to avoid taking it around any of these.

I'm not sure that it is due to "antioxidant" effects that the caution is given.  In reading some articles related to autophagy, quercetin is affecting some of the same pathways as Trehalose.  It is possible that Dr. D. is shifting the input time to make sure there is not over-stimulation of this pathway...

Moreover, functional studies revealed that quercetin activated autophagy by modulation of Akt-mTOR signaling and hypoxia-induced factor 1α (HIF-1α) signaling.

More reading is required for me to get even a basic understanding of the pathway, but it is a start...


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I'm not sure that it is due to "antioxidant" effects that the caution is given.  In reading some articles related to autophagy, quercetin is affecting some of the same pathways as Trehalose.  It is possible that Dr. D. is shifting the input time to make sure there is not over-stimulation of this pathway...


More reading is required for me to get even a basic understanding of the pathway, but it is a start...


Oh good! Looking forward to you figuring it out for us.  
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I only have a really vague idea, we need a bio chem person to come explain it in layman's terms

I do know that trehalose is supposed to be helping to re-fold mis-folded proteins (guess this happens quit often) and this is what wikipedia has to say about antioxidants
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An antioxidant is a molecule capable of inhibiting the oxidation of other molecules. Oxidation is a chemical reaction that transfers electrons or hydrogen from a substance to an oxidizing agent. Oxidation reactions can produce free radicals. In turn, these radicals can start chain reactions. When the chain reaction occurs in a cell, it can cause damage or death to the cell. Antioxidants terminate these chain reactions by removing free radical intermediates, and inhibit other oxidation reactions. They do this by being oxidized themselves, so antioxidants are often reducing agents such as thiols, ascorbic acid, or polyphenols.[1]

I can somehow see a conflict of interest there if the two were in the same place at the same time.

This is probably way off, so go for it Joe, find us the truth!


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Yeah, it's a topic that we need some guidance on.    I know I take lots of antioxidants in many forms, as well as things like blueberries.

For the time being, I'm just taking Trehalose once a day, first thing in the morning, 1 Tb.  I don't know of another time of day when I would be sure of not having antioxidants in my stomach.



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I have had neuropathy - in my mind: nerve pain as a first warning- long before diabetes shows up- and I have kept it under control with my work with
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BUT a week ago I had a spot on the bottom of my heel.. that was affected by walking on hard stone all day.. and it was painful for three days.. then I took TREHALOSE for 3 days and now the pain is gone.. and I have full feeling in the area.

I may have developed a spot of pain from eating avoids (expected issues with 1 apple a day and cinnamon for three weeks)  yet when I took the Trehalose complex, I could FEEL a band around my head on several days after taking it..

I wonder/hope if it will remove my near every day 6 hour headache????? I have not had one since 3 days.. but that happens every few weeks.. then it starts again.. but now I am looking towards no headache as a POSITIVE 'side effect' .
I will report on that............................   got a headache today so I will keep testing..


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I would treat quercetin the same as green tea for the purposes of keeping it away from trehalose. Quercetin, green tea, coffee all act in ways that are somewhat opposed to trehalose, antioxidants are going to prevent the destruction of cells and trehalose is the clean-up crew promoting autophagy.


Apples have loads of Quercetin.. would you therefore not eat apples??

Interestingly I take quercetin supplement from Dr D some time.. I wonder as I also wonder if apples and cinnamon makes me less 'craving' because of the quercetin?..

I did not eat on apple yesterday (first day after 3 weeks on 1 apple a day)and was long after dinner looking for way more food that I should not have had.. finally I took some Trehalose in pineapple and then I was good again..

Trehalose is interesting stuff..  

confusing info..

but trust Dr D..... I do..

Trehalose goes well with coffee and tea.------ as mentioned in
http://metamodern.com/2010/09/15/trehalose-autophagy-and-brain-repair-sweet/

so it gets complicated..

I think we need to invest in this product .. could be the next BIG thing..

does it have to cost so much? well it would not be APPRECIATED IF IT WERE CHEAP......
......I would like to use it like sugar.. by the boat load.. I wonder what would be bad about it in the sugar shaker.. is more good or bad..

very hopeful.. that my brain will function better,  but sorry I had a headache today again..so still no cure for that..to bad.. but I am hopeful long term.

Actually where does Trehalose come from? and is all the same? can it be home made?.. I like the sugar 'feel' of it.


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Goldie,

For the purposes of Trehalose interaction, Dr. D. recommends not having quercitin or green tea for at least 1/2 hour.  It doesn't mean that they can't be eaten at all...

It is interesting that Trehalose stopped your craving...  I wonder if it is the sugar in the apple that has stopped your craving - ie, you aren't getting enough carbohydrates in your diet without eating the apple.  Your body needs a certain amount of carbs to function properly, so maybe you have been shorting it because of the diabetes "label".


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well I am not certain about the apple thing (my avoid) with cinnamon neutral).. but I seem to have 99% less cravings.. for now still testing as it regards my diabetes.. for another week..  

I am curious to see what works..

But I had a headache today so the Trehalose has not PREVENTED that yet..  BUT I AM having interesting reactions in my Neuropathy in the legs.. the calf skin is reacting..  

the Trehalose complex is doing a great job 'replacing' sugar .. ia there a prohibition against taking more?  I need to put it in the salt shaker .. that way I can use it on many foods, (like sugar) but not overload..

I wish to get lemons as that is what Dr D suggests.  maybe the Trehalose will make them sweet enough to drink more of..  


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I AM having interesting reactions in my Neuropathy in the legs.. the calf skin is reacting..  

the Trehalose complex is doing a great job 'replacing' sugar .. ia there a prohibition against taking more?  I need to put it in the salt shaker .. that way I can use it on many foods, (like sugar) but not overload..

I wish to get lemons as that is what Dr D suggests.  maybe the Trehalose will make them sweet enough to drink more of..  

It is good that you are seeing benefits from the Trehalose.

I don't know how humid the air is where you are, but the Trehalose complex starts to stick together in the bottle when I just open it and close it right away.  I couldn't have it in a shaker or open bowl without it being one clump.

Dr. D. stated in a blog that he was drinking it in grapefruit juice, as this is a complimentary pair - ie, they help each other do better.


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yes to grapefruit .. love it.. now I can eat it even easier..

Thanks for the heads up about humidity.. I actually noticed that too.. but maybe I could put one of those little packets in to keep it going for a day.. it would be a nice way to have it handy..finally a SUGARY taste that is good for me..  


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Interesting thread on Trehalose!!  
Amazing stuff it appears.. I will order it today right away!

Yes, I agree, we could do with some guidance in how and when and after what to take Trehalose and for what (if not all ailments!) we can take it..

I would love to see this product implemented in the Health Protocols!!

I have a friend with a benign braintumor which ultimately will not need surgery for the time being.. She will come for some foodadvice.. I think Trehalose will help tremendously when with cancer???  Autophagy of cancerous cells with the aid of Trehalose!! Sounds great..

We could do with some advice..

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From what I have read and heard (mostly from Dr. D.), a person with more illness will create more mis-folded proteins.  Trehalose triggers autophagy, which is the clean-up of said mis-folded proteins.  Eliminating the mis-folded proteins from inside a cell makes the cell more healthy - less sluggish, less subject to illness.  As more cells get more healthy, illness will be driven out, so less mis-folded proteins will be made.  Ultimately, there will be a lower mis-folded protein load to clean-up as a maintenance task.

Here is a search that provides a lot of information to digest:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=autophagy%20cancer


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More questions..

is more better and when during the day? once or spli up?

for daibetes .. will it make a difference? HOW

Immune wise, will it show improvements? by what means.. ..

Brain .. any side effects?

to much expected for PML

herpes?

dry skin, rashes

exceme

astmah?

blue ankles?

lung issues, smoking?



    

  


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is more better and when during the day? once or spli up?

I think it best to follow the label directions, unless under some direction that says otherwise.  There is only so much cleaning a sick body can do, and there is only so much help a healthy body needs...

While I don't think more will hurt you, I don't see a need to waste money.

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for daibetes .. will it make a difference? HOW

This works at a cellular level, so any cells that need to clean house are helped.  Specifically, in the autophagy talk, Dr. D. talks about the clogged receptors using the tape in the ash tray analogy.  Autophagy helps to clean the receptors so they can accurately sense sugar / insulin levels again.

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Immune wise, will it show improvements? by what means.. ..

Brain .. any side effects?

Immune - receptors and nerve cells...
Brain - almost all nerve cells, so it is helped greatly.

dry skin, rashes - if everything else - digestion, brain, nerves, is working better, this has to get better...  I suppose it is just a priority thing.


    

  



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I consume more than recommended, it is a sweetener. I don't notice anything in particular. However I think my water might be poisoning me.
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No but it is like the last thing I can figure out that I don't consume or consume when I'm not living in my apartment, and start to feel better. I always feel better when I'm away from home... but I prefer to be where I live most the time over visiting people.
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I just got my Trelahose today!

How about mixing it in the Sip Right Tea as a sweetener?

To me the Type O Sip Right is bitter when warm or hot.
I am hoping to warm the tea and then add the Trelahose.

I'm sure it's ok but I just want to know for sure.

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How about mixing it in the Sip Right Tea as a sweetener?
All the Sip Right Tea varieties contain green tea.
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For the purposes of Trehalose interaction, Dr. D. recommends not having quercitin or green tea for at least 1/2 hour.  




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a pros pos Trehalose.....

wonder how Dr D s lecture went over at williamsburg

https://www.facebook.com/photo.....p;type=1&theater


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Here is a link to a very similar lecture. It was given to doctors but I am certain that you can understand some snippets of info. Most important is the Trehalose supplement that Dr. D'Adamo came out with recently. http://generativemedicine.org/blogs/dadamolab/?p=106


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Yeah I have been buying water or filling up at other places.
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That's awesome Spring! So, are you saying that Trehalose not only increases mental clarity, but improves mood? I've looked at buying it, but thought I was good taking my daily Tranquility Base & Cortiguard.


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Its different then any other thing..

I like the 'med' in a spoon full of allowed sugar!!


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That's awesome Spring! So, are you saying that Trehalose not only increases mental clarity, but improves mood? I've looked at buying it, but thought I was good taking my daily Tranquility Base & Cortiguard.


I expected Trehalose to help in the long term - I always think things will take a while --, but this is beyond anything I ever imagined! No wonder the folks at NAP are in such a good mood that they are already putting it on sale!    I am about ready to go next door and force feed this stuff to my neighbor who has been in a horrible state for weeks. I think it is just what she needs to get her through this really tough time. But, oh my, does she ever resist anything outside conventional medicine! --In spite of going through several crises because of drug reactions. But we will see.....


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Quoted from Spring


I expected Trehalose to help in the long term - I always think things will take a while --, but this is beyond anything I ever imagined! No wonder the folks at NAP are in such a good mood that they are already putting it on sale!    I am about ready to go next door and force feed this stuff to my neighbor who has been in a horrible state for weeks. I think it is just what she needs to get her through this really tough time. But, oh my, does she ever resist anything outside conventional medicine! --In spite of going through several crises because of drug reactions. But we will see.....


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Spring - You've absolutely convinced me. I will definitely be using this product. Do you take one tsp. daily? Thanks for sharing your good mood and thoughts with us.   See, you put a smile on my face!!!!!!!
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I agree it is a great product--


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Spring - You've absolutely convinced me. I will definitely be using this product. Do you take one tsp. daily? Thanks for sharing your good mood and thoughts with us.   See, you put a smile on my face!!!!!!!


Dianne, I have been grinning all day!! And, normally, it would not have been one of my better days! I am taking 1 level teas. twice a day. The container will last about a month at this rate, and during this sale is the time to load up! I guess you can tell that I really do like to feel good!  


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I agree it is a great product--


Yes, yes, yes!!!


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I expected Trehalose to help in the long term - I always think things will take a while --, but this is beyond anything I ever imagined! No wonder the folks at NAP are in such a good mood that they are already putting it on sale!    I am about ready to go next door and force feed this stuff to my neighbor who has been in a horrible state for weeks. I think it is just what she needs to get her through this really tough time. But, oh my, does she ever resist anything outside conventional medicine! --In spite of going through several crises because of drug reactions. But we will see.....


Thanks so much for sharing your experience with Trehalose Spring! I just ordered 2 small containers of it. I can't wait to see what kind of results I have.  

Also, I totally get what you mean about your neighbor. I have several people in my life that I care a great deal for that have no regard for what they put in or on their body. It's frustrating to say the least.


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Perhaps I ought to order some for my severely depressed son  
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Perhaps I ought to order some for my severely depressed son  

If my sons tended to have depression, I would order this for them in a minute! Unless a person has a real objection to anything sweet, I don't know how they could possibly dislike it. As others have mentioned, I am having mine on grapefruit too, and it is out of this world! NAP suggests taking it in lemon water which I am sure would be delicious too. I have always loved lemonade!


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Spring this sounds beautiful  

will order it for my clients and give a try for depressive or moody-ones ....
thanxs for sharing


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I just bought some for me and my husband! He is having sleep issues that I suspect are anxiety related, he doesn't have rage but he has some suppressed frustration. The next step is to get him to the gym with me

I assume this is OK for pregnancy??
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Spring this sounds beautiful  

will order it for my clients and give a try for depressive or moody-ones ....thanxs for sharing

You're welcome, Amazone! Oh, me, when I think of so many who are struggling around us (with their health, with what the economy has done to them, etc.) it makes you want to just pass this out to them! There are times, you know, when you would just like to be rich, and this is one of them for me! I feel almost guilty I am feeling so much better..... Normally, I wouldn't touch sugar like this with a ten foot pole. In fact, I have a canister of sugar that has not been opened in YEARS and it is in the back of a cabinet. I do use a tiny bit of agave and beet syrup. Thankfully, no one in my family is addicted to sugar. And going by the "sugar swoons" I used to have years ago if I ate this much sugar without a considerable amount of food, it is amazing that I don't have any sort of feeling like that after having Trehalose. And my weight was down again this AM!


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I just bought some for me and my husband! He is having sleep issues that I suspect are anxiety related, he doesn't have rage but he has some suppressed frustration. The next step is to get him to the gym with me

I assume this is OK for pregnancy??


I haven't seen anything about pregnancy, but I can't imagine that it would be a problem at all. You could call NAP about that, though, and get an answer right away!


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Will somebody please educate me on this stuff.  Or link me.  Or something.  I have heard others talking about it.  And that it might be good for lymes disease.  But I know nothing about it.  It's a sugar?


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Trehalose- Two glucose (simple sugar molecules) stuck together.

Link:

http://n-equals-one.com/blogs/2011/12/22/1851/


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I believe Dr. D has said that generally, those sugar molecules do not break apart in the human body so the effect is not the same as eating "sugar".



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glad I'm not the only one who felt something "special" while taking this!  Will have to re-order soon.


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Reorder now and get one container free with the purchase of 2 containers.

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HP2004


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OK I AGREE it does something but what?? can anyone say what it does..????

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I assume this is OK for pregnancy??
  

I tried calling the office but no one is available.   my memorie ... I am not sure, but will try again to find out ,...

The answer from the office is NO!!  - NOT for pregnant ladies.


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I believe Dr. D has said that generally, those sugar molecules do not break apart in the human body so the effect is not the same as eating "sugar".


Yes, I just didn't want people to think I have simply been on a sugar high!  


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The answer from the office is NO!!  - NOT for pregnant ladies.


Thanks, much, Goldie. So now we know what to tell other people!


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Will somebody please educate me on this stuff.

Between the blog link and information sheet C-sharp posted, and the following audio presentation, you should get a good introduction to Trehalose, and the complex being sold.
http://generativemedicine.org/blogs/dadamolab/?p=106


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I believe Dr. D has said that generally, those sugar molecules do not break apart in the human body so the effect is not the same as eating "sugar".

This is correct.  The body doesn't absorb or make very much of the enzyme (trehalase) needed to break apart the Trehalose bond to free the 2 glucose molecules.


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The body doesn't absorb or make very much of the enzyme (trehalase) needed to break apart the Trehalose bond to free the 2 glucose molecules.
Absolutely no chance that anyone could be weird enough be able to make or absorb that enzyme, is there? I mean, I am different enough to have a molydenum deficiency & not to be able to process sulphur or sulphites...& cannot seem to metabolise carbs properly, so wouldn't rule out any possibility
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I guess anything is possible, however, the best we can do is describe the typical body's response, as no medical tests are carried out on each individual...


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I guess anything is possible, however, the best we can do is describe the typical body's response, as no medical tests are carried out on each individual...


No doubt, people are being observed very closely, as usual, at the clinic who have been taking this. That would be a pretty good "trial" of a variety of people in my opinion. I know one thing for sure, I would lot rather take this than anything found in a drug store. I have never used any of that stuff that didn't cause some sort of problems. I don't think that Trehalose is behaving like regular sugar at all in my body because I would have noticed a drop in my blood sugar later - which I haven't at all. Not once. That makes me very happy too!  


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Even the tax man wasn't able to ruin my day today!! Or the cloudy, rainy weather, either!  


Drea changed my WOW to Wow, but it doesn't do justice to this wonderful supplement somehow. If she ever takes it, I think she will understand!


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Drea changed my WOW to Wow, but it doesn't do justice to this wonderful supplement somehow. If she ever takes it, I think she will understand!




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I guess I should have posted a longer message to start with, Drea, your "revision" is a lot more noticeable that my post!! It swallowed it up! And I don't want Trehalose swallowed up except when we swallow it down!!  I have taken a lot of different supplements from no telling how many companies, including NAP, for nearly fifty years, and I have never taken anything to compare with it. To tell you the truth, I can't understand why more has not been said about it by other posters....This is another one of those "magical" things to me......And it really is WOW!


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I guess I should have posted a longer message to start with, Drea, your "revision" is a lot more noticeable that my post!! It swallowed it up! And I don't want Trehalose swallowed up except when we swallow it down!!  I have taken a lot of different supplements from no telling how many companies, including NAP, for nearly fifty years, and I have never taken anything to compare with it. To tell you the truth, I can't understand why more has not been said about it by other posters....This is another one of those "magical" things to me......And it really is WOW!


i AM ASKING THE QUESTION the third time.. WHAT does it do for anyone.. specifically what?

for me its cleaned up my wite tongue.. what does it do for YOU ALL?????


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i AM ASKING THE QUESTION the third time.. WHAT does it do for anyone.. specifically what?
for me its cleaned up my wite tongue.. what does it do for YOU ALL?????


Well, since you mentioned it the other day, I have noticed that my tongue is looking healthier, and my energy is out of sight. In fact, I have had so much energy that I was afraid I was not going to be able to calm down enough to sleep at night, but that has not been the case at all! Drop off to sleep right away! I have been doing some pretty heavy yard work, every day except when it has been raining, and get up in the morning without any aches or pains whatsoever (and remember, I am almost as old as you are, Goldie!) I don't want to eat as much as I did before in spite of all the extra activity. Strangely enough, other sweeteners don't appeal to me at all anymore. I don't have a clue what is going on inside that Dr. D. has talked so much about - only more time will tell me anything about that. And I like the fact that I am losing weight too. So there you are, Goldie!!


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WHAT does it do for anyone.. specifically what?

I didn't answer this question initially in this thread, because the first thing any new supplement that aids detox is to plant me firmly into a very painful, detox overload session.  Once that initial detox phase gets kind of cleared out and I can actually feel what is going on, then I may have an answer for you...


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My vision is much clearer!

My brain is working more efficiently.  The fog has lifted, so to speak.

My vitality has increased and stabilized so that I don't feel like I'm 'on empty' by the time late afternoon rolls around.



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Wow indeed!! So you still reckon I can't get that on the sale price over here in NZ?
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Wow indeed!! So you still reckon I can't get that on the sale price over here in NZ?

I don't know...  
Who did you contact that stated it was effective through the NZ distributor?

I'm sure your NZ dist. will know what prices and deals are...  My suggestion is to contact them - share the information you got and see...  Nothing ventured, nothing gained!


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I didn't answer this question initially in this thread, because the first thing any new supplement that aids detox is to plant me firmly into a very painful, detox overload session.  Once that initial detox phase gets kind of cleared out and I can actually feel what is going on, then I may have an answer for you...


I could almost have written your post for you, Joe! I think I already mentioned feeling almost guilty about feeling so good, and the reason I said that is because I know there are people on this board who are having a really rough time, and it is possible, not necessarily a given, that it will take longer for them to see any significant results from taking Trehalose. That makes me feel sad, but I understand from my own experience that when the body begins to get the upper hand on some of these health issues, it can soar! I have been putting forth a greater effort than ever before for the last several months to get my stomach in better shape, and I think that is part of the reason that I have responded so quickly to Trehalose. That old saying about something "hitting the spot" couldn't describe any better my feelings about Trehalose, and what it is doing for me! I hope I get to read sooner rather than later that your body is finally breaking out of that toxic prison!  


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My vision is much clearer!
My brain is working more efficiently.  The fog has lifted, so to speak.
My vitality has increased and stabilized so that I don't feel like I'm 'on empty' by the time late afternoon rolls around.


Great! You wouldn't believe the mess I am in right now with my "vision!" I had my eyes checked a few months ago and only recently got the new glasses. I was afraid the prescription was too strong since I have been on SWAMI and doing so much better, so I went to another doctor to have it checked just to be sure. He felt that it was all right (without doing another checkup) and against my better judgement, I went ahead and got the glasses. Well, I CANNOT wear them! They nearly drove me crazy for four weeks, and I just couldn't take it anymore so I am back to wearing my old ones. I will see the doctor next week, and they promised that they will do everything they can to get this right. The problem now is I'm thinking that in a few months my vision may be even better than ever since I'm taking Trehalose! And I wouldn't doubt it because I can already tell a big difference. But how can I complain!?   I explained all this about my health to someone at the doctor's office this week, and she thoroughly agreed that this could affect my vision. So we will see! No pun intended!


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See better I am not certain but somehow, the eyeballs feel better.. and my headaches seem less severe.. I see the red on my tongue for the first time..  

As for energy. yes I feel that also, I now sometimes ahve less patience to come here even.. wish to be more active..   but I still take naps any time I go horizontal.

I felt confident enough to push my Doc, I wish to work in his office./confidence is coming back.. I wonder where it ever went   but gone it was!   w'll see soon enough.  


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confidence is coming back.. I wonder where it ever went   but gone it was!   w'll see soon enough.


Yes, I have noticed that too! Having to be careful about overdoing things almost beyond my strength! I'm sort of like a horse that has finally been let out of the stall!!  We don't even HAVE a smiley that can describe how I feel!!


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Spring, that is a great direction to be going in with your eyesight!  May it continue!  



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Wow.  That is so great!


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Unless a person has a real objection to anything sweet, I don't know how they could possibly dislike it.
I got some trehalose yesterday, and it's not nearly as sweet as table sugar, honey, or agave syrup.  I took my first dose today.

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Absolutely no chance that anyone could be weird enough be able to make or absorb that enzyme, is there?
I'd expect there to be a known range for trehalase production in the human body, and that the recommended dose is padded enough to cancel that out so that enough is left to do what it's supposed to do.
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TJ, you have to be kidding!! The sweetness is astounding to me. What sort of taster are you!? I haven't had any table sugar in so long I couldn't tell you what it tastes like, but Trehalose is much sweeter than honey or agave to me. Honey has something about it that just turns me off and agave is simply okay. If I didn't know Trehalose Complex was good for us, I wouldn't have ANY of it because it is so sweet. (It is like - do you mean to tell me that I can have T H A T!?)It is very good with the sour taste of grapefruit, though.


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Just my experience.  But I'm using Swanson Ultra 100% Pure Trehalose, not Trehalose Complex.  The taste/sweetness may be different.
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TJ, you have to be kidding!! The sweetness is astounding to me. What sort of taster are you!? I haven't had any table sugar in so long I couldn't tell you what it tastes like, but Trehalose is much sweeter than honey or agave to me. Honey has something about it that just turns me off and agave is simply okay. If I didn't know Trehalose Complex was good for us, I wouldn't have ANY of it because it is so sweet. (It is like - do you mean to tell me that I can have T H A T!?)It is very good with the sour taste of grapefruit, though.


If I remember correctly, Trehalose has ribose in it. I just found some ribose in my cupboard and decided to use it up as a clinic I go to serves hot beverages for their clients and they have no sugar...but a canister of D-Ribose. It gives one energy, yet does not feed candida despite how sweet it is. I am considering making some type of nut cluster treat that I dehydrate and will use some of this in it.

I will eventually get the Trehalose for all of the other ingredients and to 'renew' my cells.

Spring, your great experience with Trehalose is contagious...I am looking forward to trying it without reservation!  
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Dianne, I don't dare use this for the treat you described! I would have no resistance!! I'm sure it won't be in your house long!


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I got some trehalose yesterday, and it's not nearly as sweet as table sugar, honey, or agave syrup.  I took my first dose today.


D-Ribose is 33% as sweet a sugar
Trehalose is 36% as sweet as sugar

Trehalose Complex contains 6 times as much Trehalose as D-Ribose.
It also contains citrus pectin


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Quoted from TJ
I got some trehalose yesterday, and it's not nearly as sweet as table sugar, honey, or agave syrup.  I took my first dose today.

Quoted from TJ
Just my experience.  But I'm using Swanson Ultra 100% Pure Trehalose, not Trehalose Complex.  The taste/sweetness may be different.


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D-Ribose is 33% as sweet a sugar
Trehalose is 36% as sweet as sugar

Trehalose Complex contains 6 times as much Trehalose as D-Ribose.
It also contains citrus pectin
TJ - could the reason yours isn't as sweet, be because of the lack of D-Ribose?

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D-Ribose is 33% as sweet a sugar
Trehalose is 36% as sweet as sugar

Trehalose Complex contains 6 times as much Trehalose as D-Ribose.
It also contains citrus pectin


Going by your numbers C_Sharp, I guess I would fall flat on the floor if I tasted plain old sugar after all this time. I simply cannot imagine anything tasting sweeter than Trehalose!


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I would definately describe the experience as calming and wow something feels right about it! I tried to get my stressed teacher to try it but she was afraid it would have the opposite effect like the teacher supps which give her energy. It's amazing how people let fear rule them. We all do it !



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Ok TJ.. the sugar substitute trehalose -not the supplement combo of the Complex - I have questions ...other than replace sugar what else does it do for you? I will be curious... so few tell what TC actually does.  Like I said those who are used to eating sugar will find this nice as a healthier replacement.  On a daily basis how much of it are you eating?  For TC I only get 4x 1/4 teaspoons on my 1/4 grapefruit.  I will be interested to see how many uses you will make out of it / will you make rice pudding? put it on salad or on rice cake sandwiches? are you using it as a 'diet' item or as 'sugar'?  

and most important... as on experiment ... what are you expecting from it?  what will make it worth the price?   Should I buy a pound and share it with overweight kids in the family..  Should I use it to make things more kids like sweet and try to serve them vegetables in some way with trehalose?  how might it help them?  

These kids eat very few vegetables. But I took them to dinner the first time yesterday and they ate little enough, so I can not really figure where they get their weight from ... other then pasta starches.. so stupid.  

I wish there was a CHILDRENs cooking ability BTD COOK BOOK for KIDS.. to cook fun foods .. They might be O (I think)  I wonder if the on line books would be fun?? I think I will order one and  have it printed at a local store and make a gift of it for the twins birthday. Worth a try.. you just encouraged me to do so.. TJ thanks.. I needed that.  


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Sugar and wheat are very high in calories, and most kids eat enough of it to keep them plump.  Just look at the way the majority of people eat.  The bread is enough to keep their bodies well "fed".  And then they add sugar on top of that and man.  I'm not saying it's good food, I'm saying that most people eat enough of those two foods to the point that they would not lose weight.  My guess is when people keep eating like this, it will eventually end up biting them in the you know where.  Many vegetables have very little calories.  But lots of good value.  And if there is one thing I noticed, is that a lot of people in the world, adults included, really don't like vegetables.  Look  at the commercials out there for V-8 juices and such.  They're always making it out like it's gross to eat a plate of veggies and it would just be easier to turn to a drink or supplement to replace it.  Pish posh.  

IMHO, I see a culture addicted to wheat, sugar, and things that might give them fuel in the short term, but probably do more damage in the long run.  I used to be one, so, I'm not judging.  I'm just really glad I learned how to eat better.  And I think my family is better off for it.  Because I'm the cook.  My kids eat stuff that most people totally turn their nose up at.  Even at our church, everything revolves around sugar parties.  Ice cream socials.  Dessert night.  Cakes at every oppportunity.  Candy at AWANA.  It really is irritating.


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TJ - could the reason yours isn't as sweet, be because of the lack of D-Ribose?
Looking strictly at those percentages, pure trehalose should be sweeter than a trehalose/ribose combo.

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Ok TJ.. the sugar substitute trehalose -not the supplement combo of the Complex - I have questions ...other than replace sugar what else does it do for you? I will be curious... so few tell what TC actually does.  Like I said those who are used to eating sugar will find this nice as a healthier replacement.  On a daily basis how much of it are you eating?  For TC I only get 4x 1/4 teaspoons on my 1/4 grapefruit.  I will be interested to see how many uses you will make out of it / will you make rice pudding? put it on salad or on rice cake sandwiches? are you using it as a 'diet' item or as 'sugar'?  

and most important... as on experiment ... what are you expecting from it?  what will make it worth the price?
Dr. D adds other ingredients to TC that are complimentary to the trehalose to increase its effectiveness, just like he does with all his supplements.  I expect it to do the same thing as TC only not as effectively.  I don't expect to see any dramatic, visible improvements immediately.  It seems like a supplement that works to gradually help the body heal long-term damage and dysfunction, so that's what I'm looking for.  Any other benefit will just be icing on the cake.  I can't justify the cost of TC.  This stuff I got was $10 for one lb.  Today is only my second day using it.  I just used it as a supplement today and yesterday, not as a sweetener.  The serving scoop is about 5 gm, and I'm just using one daily.  I don't yet know what the optimal daily amount is.  Unfortunately I don't know what it's sourced from.  I'll probably find out it's sourced from corn; I didn't even think about that when I bought it, but even if it is, the processing has probably eliminated most of the corn lectin.
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So I had this thought ( After taking Trehalose for a week   ) that since Trelahose is a double glucose molecule that it would be an ideal attraction for Lectins.  So that would mean it has one more benefit to improve your health.


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The cheap way to produce trehalose is to use enzymes to split corn starch (long chains of glucose) into two glucose units.  

The expensive way is to extract it from mushrooms.

I did notice one organization selling trehalose claiming to make it from tapioca starch instead of corn starch.

I do not know how Swanson product is produced. I looked on their site and could not find information, but I did not email to find out.  For what they sell it for they are not using mushrooms as a source.

I imagine the cheaper a product is the more likely it is to be made from and the less likely that it is purified to remove contaminants.


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IS THAT a question or statement?  


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Mushrooms? what KIND?    Tapioka?     Corn.. So could one type be better than the other?

We ALL need more info on it.. like how much a day to use it as 'sugar'..  any harmful effect? at what level ?



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Mushrooms? what KIND?



Quoted from Wikipedia
In plants, the presence of trehalose is seen in sunflower seeds, moonwort, Selaginella plants,[8] and sea algae. ... It is prevalent in some mushrooms, such as shiitake (Lentinula edodes), maitake (Grifola fondosa), nameko (Pholiota nameko), and Judas's ear (Auricularia auricula-judae), which can contain 1% to 17% percent of trehalose in dry weight form (thus it is also referred to as mushroom sugar). Trehalose can also be found in such microorganisms as baker's yeast and wine yeast, ...


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IS THAT a question or statement?  


it's an extrapolation.


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it's an extrapolation.
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Or wondering out loud!!??  


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like how much a day to use it as 'sugar'..  any harmful effect? at what level ?  


Their suggestion is 1 teaspoon twice a day. I wouldn't know how to use it as regular sugar because I don't use sugar anyway. I use a tad of agave and maybe a tablespoon of beet syrup in a week. So I'm not really chomping at the bit to increase my intake over these 2 teaspoons I'm taking now.

I still can't believe the energy.............simply incredibly WOW!!


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Sometimes I get an idea but do not put on paper or on the computer and then lose track  of it.  I may or may not remember until way later.  This way I can get my idea out there and hopefully help someone.


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IMHO, I see a culture addicted to wheat, sugar, and things that might give them fuel in the short term, but probably do more damage in the long run.  I used to be one, so, I'm not judging.  I'm just really glad I learned how to eat better.  And I think my family is better off for it.  Because I'm the cook.  My kids eat stuff that most people totally turn their nose up at.  Even at our church, everything revolves around sugar parties.  Ice cream socials.  Dessert night.  Cakes at every oppportunity.  Candy at AWANA.  It really is irritating.


JJR, I was thrilled to see your comments above about how sugar is the focus of events for children. I totally agree! It was a red flag to me before I began my SWAMI journey recently, but now it just makes me angry. I get so frustrated having to limit my kids constantly when we're at school events, church events, AWANAS (we do that too), driving through the bank ("no thank you, we don't want any suckers") & even our tailor has a giant bowl full of candy. I know 100% that it's worth it & my husband & I explain the reasons why to them in a kind, loving way. But, it's still frustrating. I'll end my rant now!

Now, to get back onto the topic of this thread, I've taken Trehalose Complex from NAP for 2 days now & I haven't seen any changes. I'll update this thread if & when I do. I think it's sweet, but not super sweet. I didn't want to add it to my grapefruit because I love it sour with pink salt. I've been drinking my Trehalose mixed into a small amount of Simply Grapefruit juice.



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  Ice cream socials.  


Nobody would go to something called a salad social.  

Think of what the invitation would look like:



BYOB: Bring Your Own Broccoli

You and your family are invited to a green social!  Lettuce provided.  Please bring toppings.  No store-bought dressings, please, out of respect for those who don't eat GMOs.  Vita Mixes provided as well for those of you who drink socially.


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Nobody would go to something called a salad social.  

Think of what the invitation would look like:



BYOB: Bring Your Own Broccoli

You and your family are invited to a green social!  Lettuce provided.  Please bring toppings.  No store-bought dressings, please, out of respect for those who don't eat GMOs.  Vita Mixes provided as well for those of you who drink socially.


Oh Ribbit!!!  hahaha!     BYOB!!!  lol!  



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Vita Mixes provided as well for those of you who drink socially.
Oh yeah Ribbit is in fine form lol

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Nobody would go to something called a salad social.  


You and your family are invited to a green social!  Lettuce provided.



I was hoping for escarole.
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that since Trelahose is a double glucose molecule that it would be an ideal attraction for Lectins.  So that would mean it has one more benefit to improve your health.



I don't see the answer.. call me stupid .. I still would like to know... Can I therefore eat sugary things and get a way with it.. like more fruit sugar for instance in a whole banana or a second fruit / rice?,? That could change a big part of my life.. so far I only eat meat, green vegetables and 1 grapefruit.  





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"I don't see the answer.. call me stupid .. I still would like to know... Can I therefore eat sugary things and get a way with it.. like more fruit sugar for instance in a whole banana or a second fruit / rice?,? That could change a big part of my life.. so far I only eat meat, green vegetables and 1 grapefruit. "


No.  Regular glucose is easily metabolized by the body.  Trehalose is a double glucose molecule that has a bond that we humans can not easily break and metabolize.  

Do not confuse regular sugar / glucose with Trelahose  


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This is my second day on Trehalose and I have had a horrible migraine both days. Coming up the back of neck  to middle of back of head all the way up and over to forehead. I'm guessing detox?


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This is my second day on Trehalose and I have had a horrible migraine both days. Coming up the back of neck  to middle of back of head all the way up and over to forehead. I'm guessing detox?

That's my thought as well...  Mine were whole head, spine, and even radiating out from the spine...  The pain has backed off some...
I had to back off of the recommended dose to be able to function somewhat, but am taking about a teaspoon per day now...


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.... This is my second day on Trehalose and I have had a horrible migraine both days. Coming up the back of neck  to middle of back of head all the way up and over to forehead.....


I have headaches almost like that every day without Trehalose TC..

Since I took TC I have less headaches. .. but can not yet say they went away.. That is for the near future.


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I had a dull headache the first couple of days that reminded me just a tiny bit of the horrible ones I had when I was detoxing with Candidiasis. It soon went away, though. I was feeling so wonderful otherwise that I hardly noticed it! And, like Victoria, even the mental fog, that I was hardly even aware of having, lifted very quickly. It is a wonderful, wonderful feeling....... I slept and rested better last night than I have in years.


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If you never get/or got headaches, would the detox affect show up in whatever other part of your body that normally gets affected...
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If you never get/or got headaches, would the detox affect show up in whatever other part of your body that normally gets affected...

Possibly...  Very little is guaranteed when dealing with the human body...  


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Possibly...  Very little is guaranteed when dealing with the human body...  


We're all so different too.... I really wish I could describe the way I feel since I started taking Trehalose. I simply can't find the words. I know I have said a lot, but what I've said hardly scratches the surface...... I have had a few fleeting thoughts such as, "Can this possibly even last?" But it does. "Can it possibly get any better?" And it does...... WOW!


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I have not looked at headaches as 'detox' rather for the need to make some sort of adjustment.

The absence of headaches to me is my aim, but I can not fault anything I am doing for getting them.  They just 'seem' near daily exercise in 'futility' to remind me how NICE LIFE IS when I don't have any pain.  

I am 'feeling' as if TC is working toward my goal of (when ) the 'reminder' work is done   and the body can relax   enough to just let me be ..  I think (my body's nerve center) might, possibly, eventually, stumble,and find it's way, in that direction   seeing that I am doing something to help it along. .

I do see other areas where it might be working as well.  My neuropathy -the nerve endings- might be more receptive to self healing..  time will tell.  It might even be the reason to sleep a little better? less tossing and waking?    

My tongue is most definitely CLEAR now! never saw it's skin before!  Brain fog, I experience a slight lessening of 'emotional' fear - might have more emotional courage????  It works on my eye balls more then on my eye sight - SO FAR..  I have a little dry skin on my arms I usually don't have.. is that a symptom?  MY fingernails that where breaking might be getting a litttttle stronger?  I 'think' my sinuses are clearer.. I am just not certain yet, but it is doing something!!!

You see, I just don't know YET.   But I am in favor of trying.  I will buy more of it and just replace it as 'my' personalized 'sweet' spot in life!.   I don't ask much of life or TC... just better this, that, and all else.... including radiant health    TC is indeed sweet medicine! I even like this thread.. it's life confirming.  I think my sinuses are clearer.. you see I am not certain yet, but it is doing something!!!

No doubt in my mind that it should be tried by all how suffered from taking pain and other pills, and or those who are weakened somehow from all the poisonous things we 'took' to deal with our lives..


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I don't see the answer.. call me stupid .. I still would like to know... Can I therefore eat sugary things and get a way with it.. like more fruit sugar for instance in a whole banana or a second fruit / rice?,? That could change a big part of my life.. so far I only eat meat, green vegetables and 1 grapefruit.  

Maybe you've written about this before, Goldie, but why are you eating so little fruit? I thought everyone needed more fruit than that.....


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This way I can get my idea out there and hopefully help someone.


But, but, but, what if it doesn't work that way.   I would certainly hope you are right, though.


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it scrubs at a cellular level as well......like real deep type of healing!!


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Have you noticed this personally, Lola? I wish you would post some of your experience on the other thread with this fabulous, new supplement! Are there any other substances that could serve as an all-around lectin "scrubber" on the cellular level for every type?


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Trehalose, the way Dr. D. uses it, triggers internal cellular cleaning.  

It is my understanding that lectins attach to the outside of the cell.  I don't know if Trehalose has the same "attachment" ability for lectins to grab onto to or not, but this is not the mechanism Dr. D. is recommending it for.


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Well, to "clump," it seems the lectin would have to be on the outside of the cell.


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Well, to "clump," it seems the lectin would have to be on the outside of the cell.

I agree...  As I said, I don't know whether Trehalose has the proper form to be a "sacrificial sugar".


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Goldie, have you tried a little Ashwagandha to help your body relax? I had taken some on several different occasions during the last few years, but it only made me horribly sleepy in the day time, and I couldn't sleep at night - which did everything BUT relax my body. I tried some the last couple of days just to see if anything had changed and didn't notice any daytime sleepiness at all, and I have been more relaxed. I can't help but wonder if taking it the same days as the Trehalose made all the difference. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised at anything!!


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In plants, the presence of trehalose is seen in sunflower seeds, moonwort, Selaginella plants,[8] and sea algae. ... It is prevalent in some mushrooms, such as shiitake (Lentinula edodes), maitake (Grifola fondosa), nameko (Pholiota nameko), and Judas's ear (Auricularia auricula-judae), which can contain 1% to 17% percent of trehalose in dry weight form (thus it is also referred to as mushroom sugar). Trehalose can also be found in such microorganisms as baker's yeast and wine yeast, ...


Here in Ireland I can only get Trehalose from corn (SWAMI avoid)
Soooo...is it better to take that or not take it at all??
And...even if I could get the mushroom one...shiitake is an avoid too, maiitake neutral, no listing for the others.

Help?

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Here in Ireland I can only get Trehalose from corn (SWAMI avoid)
Soooo...is it better to take that or not take it at all??

You may have to make that decision yourself...

It shouldn't matter where the Trehalose comes from, IF it is pure.  Unfortunately, it is hard to tell how pure it is without lab testing - which I don't know how to request and don't want to pay for...  So the only answer I know is to either do without or try some and see if you can see benefit or harm from it...


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An intimidating title, but the lecture is quite understandable by laypeople and gives some unique information on aging and neurodegenerative disease.
http://www.generativemedicine.org/3west.shtml

'MTOR Dependant and Independent Autophagy'


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Lola,
I like that talk as well, but it doesn't address Tom's assertion.


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Lola,
I like that talk as well, but it doesn't address Tom's assertion.


It would be an ideal attractant for whatever it attracts.

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Lectins are sugar-binding proteins that are highly specific for their sugar moieties.


We are used to looking for binding to specific antigens such as Fucose and Galactose.

I'm not sure what Trehalose attracts, or if it would include those attracted to glucose.
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hope this quote by Dr D can help clear up Tom s 'assertion':

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In my lecture on MTOR independent autophagy I made mention of the role of o-glycosylation as a relatively under-appreciated epigenetic factor, via both
histone alteration and proteosomal tagging for ubiquinination. Ubiquinination is considered an epigenetic function due to the fact that it is the major
pathway for the degradation of most transcription factors.

Here we see two major epigenetic functions that react directly to nutrient variation.

Like most GlcNAc conjugates, UDP-Glc-NAc reacts with a wide variety of dietary lectins, including WGA (wheat germ agglutinin) and a host of others.


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hope this quote by Dr D can help clear up Tom s 'assertion':
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Like most GlcNAc conjugates, UDP-Glc-NAc reacts with a wide variety of dietary lectins, including WGA (wheat germ agglutinin) and a host of others.




Quoted Text
Uridine diphosphate N-acetylglucosamine or UDP-GlcNAc is a nucleotide sugar and a coenzyme in metabolism
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As I drink green tea more than once daily, I'd appreciate if someone would tell me:

a) How long should I wait after drinking green tea before I take trehalose?

and

b) How long should I wait after taking trehalose before I drink green tea?

I may have missed this info along the threads. Thanks!


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a) How long should I wait after drinking green tea before I take trehalose?

b) How long should I wait after taking trehalose before I drink green tea?

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I called DPN they did say 1/2 hour.



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Could TC (the complex Dr D's form) work to make things slide AWAY.. ? thus it can not adhere to what it otherwise would.. like my tongue.. why did the white go away?  was it absorbed or just slid away??  it's gone.. that is all I KNOW for sure from Trehalose Complex in 6 weeks Attn he most.

I would love to have a clear understanding IF Trehalose without the Complex.. as in plain trehalose sugar substitute...  would be a superior sugar to use any way??


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Could TC (the complex Dr D's form) work to make things slide AWAY.. ? thus it can not adhere to what it otherwise would.. like my tongue.. why did the white go away?  was it absorbed or just slid away??

It is hard to say what the white was specifically, so I can't answer that.
There are 3 active components in TC:
Trehalose - stimulates cells to clean house.
Ribose - provides cellular energy.
Modified Citrus Pectin (MCP) - combines with metals, etc. to carry them out of the body.
I propose that some combination of the above allowed greater cellular health on the tongue and whatever was there was either killed or detached from the now healthier cells and has moved further through the digestive tract or has been eliminated from the body.

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I would love to have a clear understanding IF Trehalose without the Complex.. as in plain trehalose sugar substitute...  would be a superior sugar to use any way??

I say "Yes", for these reasons.
  
Trehalose provides the sweet taste, but very little of it is broken down to be usable as glucose.

Trehalose stimulates autophagy (reuse of intracellular, improperly combined protein/sugar molecules) without requiring calorie restriction.  By stimulating autophagy, degenerative diseases are reduced as the cells function better.


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Could TC (the complex Dr D's form) work to make things slide AWAY.. ? thus it can not adhere to what it otherwise would.. like my tongue.. why did the white go away?  was it absorbed or just slid away??  it's gone.. that is all I KNOW for sure from Trehalose Complex in 6 weeks Attn he most.

I would love to have a clear understanding IF Trehalose without the Complex.. as in plain trehalose sugar substitute...  would be a superior sugar to use any way??


Goldie - There is a privately owned clinic in our city and the doctor is a medical doctor who is Chinese and practices both modalities as well as other alternative care. He sees many patients who are diabetic and his recommendation is D-Ribose as a sugar substitute for all of his patients wether they are diabetic or not. It's great in water and lemon juice. I don't crave sweets much so it's not something that I use a lot but I am considering making some type of raw nut clusters and using this for sweetener as my husband likes his treats a bit sweet. Also this doctor said that Ribose does not feed candida.

But, I will definitely be buy Dr. D's Trehalose for it's health benefits and use that as he recommends.
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He sees many patients who are diabetic and his recommendation is D-Ribose as a sugar substitute for all of his patients wether they are diabetic or not.


Dr D's Trehalose Complex has D-Ribose in it and also Citrus Pectin..  Thanks twice confirmed now - and I am continuing with it.. great.  

I only take one teaspoon a day, so I am not concerned about my diabetes... I have reduced my bad numbers to near 'normal' so I am looking to get off all or most of my metformin.. I am doing the same with the outlook on cholesterol and triglycerides.. I am working toward TOTAL normalcy.. I am doing quite well ...

and..I am ordering some plain trehalose as sugar substitute for some over weight kids --  

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Trehalose provides the sweet taste, but very little of it is broken down to be usable as glucose.

Trehalose stimulates autophagy (reuse of intracellular, improperly combined protein/sugar molecules) without requiring calorie restriction.  By stimulating autophagy, degenerative diseases are reduced as the cells function better.


fabulous!  The earth has just changed its axle.. sugar taste not sugar absorbed!!





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JJR, I was thrilled to see your comments above about how sugar is the focus of events for children. I totally agree! It was a red flag to me before I began my SWAMI journey recently, but now it just makes me angry. I get so frustrated having to limit my kids constantly when we're at school events, church events, AWANAS (we do that too), driving through the bank ("no thank you, we don't want any suckers") & even our tailor has a giant bowl full of candy. I know 100% that it's worth it & my husband & I explain the reasons why to them in a kind, loving way. But, it's still frustrating. I'll end my rant now!

Now, to get back onto the topic of this thread, I've taken Trehalose Complex from NAP for 2 days now & I haven't seen any changes. I'll update this thread if & when I do. I think it's sweet, but not super sweet. I didn't want to add it to my grapefruit because I love it sour with pink salt. I've been drinking my Trehalose mixed into a small amount of Simply Grapefruit juice.




I allow my kids to have a treat 2x a week.  Something small, and of whatever junk they want.  It's funny though.  The discipline I use on them has rubbed off.  My daughter opted to not eat her treat this weekend, because she's fighting a cold and she has a ballet recital this week and she didn't want to get sicker.  They learn from our example.  I don't ever eat sweets other than a little bit of dark chocolate a few times a week, so they see my example.  PLUS, when they eat too much junk food, they feel it.  And they don't like it.  I'm not sure why it is God has shed light on the subject for us, but so many Christians seem to be in the dark about it.  I pray things will change, but I don't think they will.  So many are in my opinion, addicted.  But, so was I at one point.  So I'm not judging.  I don't even get all that mad about it any more.  But it does get irritating when the subject comes up all the time or someone acts like we're "fanatics" for not letting our kids indulge at every single meal, like they let their kids do.  To each his own.



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Nobody would go to something called a salad social.  

Think of what the invitation would look like:



BYOB: Bring Your Own Broccoli

You and your family are invited to a green social!  Lettuce provided.  Please bring toppings.  No store-bought dressings, please, out of respect for those who don't eat GMOs.  Vita Mixes provided as well for those of you who drink socially.


I never said it had to revolve around GOOD food.  But why does BAD food have to be the focus?  How about just "Socializing"?  Or Bible study?  We did a night where we played games at church.  They did have treats, but it wasn't the main reason or thing to do.  I was pleased about that.  I don't mind people indulging.  It's fun to.  But the problem is I see people indulging ALL THE TIME.  And then expecting us to do the same (not everyone does that, only some).  And I also see people probably putting more emphasis on these foods than probably should be.  

But you do make a good point.  On one hand, "Whatever gets the people to come" is probably a good thing.  But then where do you draw the line.  Beer, brats and Bible study?  Or, come smoke a joint and study Revelations with us?  It will enhance the experience tremendously.  Or, OK, let's just do, "Get a sugar buzz and watch the kids climb the walls while we try to visit and talk about God".  So maybe treats aren't as bad as alcohol and drugs, but I think there is a fine line that is being crossed.  Possibly.  I could be all wet too, and am just being anal because I can't eat treats without feeling lousy.  



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  The discipline I use on them has rubbed off.  My daughter opted to not eat her treat this weekend, because she's fighting a cold and she has a ballet recital this week and she didn't want to get sicker.  They learn from our example.  


I laughed when I read your post! When my oldest son was about four he was over at an elderly couple's home next door when he noticed that they had colds. They decided to have some ice cream to soothe their throats. He exclaimed in horror that they shouldn't be eating ice cream!! Of course, they were shocked and asked him why not. He let them know that he thought everyone knew that you didn't need to eat ice cream when you had a cold! We had no idea that he had become such a firm believer in avoiding sugar when you are sick!


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Yaeli, you can get TC from Karen Vago, in France
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They don't seem to have it yet....  



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I allow my kids to have a treat 2x a week.  Something small, and of whatever junk they want.  It's funny though.  The discipline I use on them has rubbed off.  My daughter opted to not eat her treat this weekend, because she's fighting a cold and she has a ballet recital this week and she didn't want to get sicker.  They learn from our example.  I don't ever eat sweets other than a little bit of dark chocolate a few times a week, so they see my example.  PLUS, when they eat too much junk food, they feel it.  And they don't like it.  I'm not sure why it is God has shed light on the subject for us, but so many Christians seem to be in the dark about it.  I pray things will change, but I don't think they will.  So many are in my opinion, addicted.  But, so was I at one point.  So I'm not judging.  I don't even get all that mad about it any more.  But it does get irritating when the subject comes up all the time or someone acts like we're "fanatics" for not letting our kids indulge at every single meal, like they let their kids do.  To each his own.



JJR, I agree completely with your above comments. Additionally, I've found that if I slow down & take time to explain (sometimes re-explain) the reasons behind our limiting treats, then my kids "get it." My oldest turned down a treat this past weekend because her throat was sore. This mama is PROUD!  

Trehalose update: After 4 days of use, I still haven't seen any changes. Again, I'll update if/when I do.



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Trehalose update: After 4 days of use, I still haven't seen any changes. Again, I'll update if/when I do.


Hopeful, I was shocked this AM when I saw that my legs were not chapped anymore from this dry, windy weather we are having!! I had not used anything at all on them. I am telling all my friends about this wonderful stuff. I read where one man was putting it in his liquid shower soap and raving about what it was doing for his skin. He had put it in his blender to make something similar to powdered sugar. He said it left no sugary residue on his skin at all. Of course, we already know that they have been putting it in commercial skin products. No telling what they have been charging for it either!


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Hopeful, I was shocked this AM when I saw that my legs were not chapped anymore from this dry, windy weather we are having!! I had not used anything at all on them. I am telling all my friends about this wonderful stuff. I read where one man was putting it in his liquid shower soap and raving about what it was doing for his skin. He had put it in his blender to make something similar to powdered sugar. He said it left no sugary residue on his skin at all. Of course, we already know that they have been putting it in commercial skin products. No telling what they have been charging for it either!


Spring, I am thrilled with the amazing results that you've been getting from Trehalose!  

It just dawned on me that I quit drinking black tea full of avoids about the same time that I started Trehalose. So, I could possibly be seeing some results from both mixed together. I guess only time will tell.  


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Thanks Teresa and C_Sharp! I was too hasty and therefore mistaken, a minute later I did find it in Right4EU shop and ordered it right away.

I thought I deleted my message, was wrong again    


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http://www.hdac.org/features/article.php?p_articleNumber=252

Some more amazing stuff about Trehalose........


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This morning when I stirred Trehalose Complex into my lemon juice/water, I decided to pat a little on the backs of my hands. No wonder people want to bathe in this - it makes the skin feel just like velvet!! With no residue at all. Another WOW!!

I was looking at some pictures this morning of women whose faces had been treated with a regimen using many great ingredients including Trehalose. I don't know how much editing had been done, or not, of course, but those women looked absolutely beautiful!  I think the harsher the climate, the more dramatic the results would be.


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I laughed when I read your post! When my oldest son was about four he was over at an elderly couple's home next door when he noticed that they had colds. They decided to have some ice cream to soothe their throats. He exclaimed in horror that they shouldn't be eating ice cream!! Of course, they were shocked and asked him why not. He let them know that he thought everyone knew that you didn't need to eat ice cream when you had a cold! We had no idea that he had become such a firm believer in avoiding sugar when you are sick!



Too funny!


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JJR, I agree completely with your above comments. Additionally, I've found that if I slow down & take time to explain (sometimes re-explain) the reasons behind our limiting treats, then my kids "get it." My oldest turned down a treat this past weekend because her throat was sore. This mama is PROUD!  

Trehalose update: After 4 days of use, I still haven't seen any changes. Again, I'll update if/when I do.



Kids pick up a lot.  They're little minds pick up so much and it's great to see when they use their brains.  And sometimes their intuition is great.  I constantly am trying to teach my kids to turn on their brain when they do stuff.  Sometimes, it's not always the case though.  hehehehhe


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give them trehalose and maybe then it will work easier? !    


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Trehalose Complex is NOT recommended for children per http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007C6ENDK


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that leaves more for us!!!


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that leaves more for us!!!


   That was always my FIL's reply if someone didn't like something that was served at a meal. It simply left more for him!!


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Even the tax man wasn't able to ruin my day today!! Or the cloudy, rainy weather, either!  


My Trehalose Complex arrived just then!!! So I went back to the beginning of this thread to make sure about dosage, combos and frequencies ... and saw your post ... I am just about to start our tax too and I hope you are right!!! Sunny day here at the moment, but according to the weather man it will not last long, expecting a bit of rain again in the next couple of days ... but I have Trehalose!!!  

PS: back to finish reading thread ...




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An intimidating title, but the lecture is quite understandable by laypeople and gives some unique information on aging and neurodegenerative disease.
http://www.generativemedicine.org/3west.shtml

'MTOR Dependant and Independent Autophagy'
The executive summary:

If you are having lots of issues with blocked hormone receptors and feel groggy all the time, you need to Shake 'n Bake.

No breading mix on your chicken here, but you need to shake some trehalose on your food and then bake yourself in a infrared sauna.


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I find my best "sweat therapy" when I work in my yard! With sweat pouring off me, I know that a whole lot of toxins are leaving my body. I sweat summer and winter out there! I sweat so much that my clothes are white with salt. If people don't have a yard to work in or are not physically able to even if they did, a sauna could be the answer for them. But there are some cautions to consider if people have certain health conditions.

I have found since taking Trehalose that I need to drink about a third more water than I normally do.


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... I have reduced my bad numbers to near 'normal' so I am looking to get off all or most of my metformin.. I am doing the same with the outlook on cholesterol and triglycerides.. I am working toward TOTAL normalcy.. I am doing quite well ...


Goldie, I am happy that you're doing so well!!  



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possibly I feel thirstier??   and my skin is in need of more moisture?    


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I am beginning to think I may need to use less supplements since I have been taking Trehalose Complex. I wonder if anyone else has noticed any difference in the way their bodies are utilizing theirs since taking Trehalose. I don't know for sure, but it seems that it has put mine in overdrive!! I wish there was a local support group for people taking Trehalose Complex so we could compare notes in person!!


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OK the jury is in... 80% sure I have fewer headaches??? 20% I still don't believe it.

BUT I can report that my voice has suffered over the years and knowing that my voice is a measure of my health.. I now have near full range voice.. I used to run out of sound.. not any more the last few days..

TC works.. something here works..  


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I have known for years that one can measure the persons health by their voice quality.  Mine failed me for years, NOw I can hit 98% of every note.. this is a big thing..... might have to do with the clearing of my white tongue.  My troat has always been my weak spot. Is it possible that there was a layer of old -unhealthy- plaque on my vocal cords that now have cleared up?  That would be a interesting phenomenan.  

Additionally I am wondering if my ears have less discharge, although it never was in issue.  

and 80% sure I have fewer or less severe headaches.. 20 % I don't trust it yet..    


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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I have known for years that one can measure the persons health by their voice quality.  Mine failed me for years, NOw I can hit 98% of every note.. this is a big thing..... might have to do with the clearing of my white tongue.  My troat has always been my weak spot. Is it possible that there was a layer of old -unhealthy- plaque on my vocal cords that now have cleared up?  That would be a interesting phenomenan.  


This certainly seems possible.  And I can relate to this level of detoxification also.  I nearly lost my voice for a couple of years and now it is coming through - maybe not 100%, but back to 85% at least.  



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Okay, I will have to check out my voice. This is just getting more and more amazing! Of course, all of my family and friends notice that I'm not clearing my throat all the time as I have been known to do!


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Yes, my voice has had periods of time where it was very weak.  I had noticed when I used to eat a cookie or something not healthy a couple of years ago, this would happen.  It was very weird, my voice would go hoarse almost immediately after eating one.  But for sure the better I feel, the stronger my voice is.


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   Hello-This is my first post, ever! I hope I'm in the right place.
            I have been so impressed with all the benefits of trehalose that I ordered some and have
            tried it a dozen times.Within two to three hours after taking it, I develope gas and
            bloating,followed in a few hours by diarhea.The reaction is always the same.I'm so
            disappointed.I have never had problems with a supplement before and never with
            mushrooms,which I understand contain trehalose.
                 Just as an aside,I have been on the type O diet for a year,followed by my swami hunter
             diet for two and a half years, with great success.My digestion has been very good during
             this time.Maybe all I can do is rely on the benefits of green tea,instead.
                 Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated.Thanks

            
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I have been on first one and then the other of Dr. D.'s diets for twelve years or so. I only had a stool that was rather softer than usual and minimal flatulence once when I first started taking Trehalose. However, I also take Intrinsa so that may have something to do with my digestion handling Trehalose so well. I have absolutely no problems with it.

Trehalose may be letting you know that there is something you still need to address about your digestive system. Especially in the large intestine. I have had stomach problems nearly all my life, and the diets have helped me tremendously, but Intrinsa along with the Trehalose has cleared up the rest of my problems there. It is so wonderful not to have that pain!!

You mentioned a dozen times - was that over a period of six days or so? I wish you would try it for another week and see what happens. I assume that you took it away from your green tea..... Have you ever taken Intrinsa?


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Yes, my voice has had periods of time where it was very weak.  I had noticed when I used to eat a cookie or something not healthy a couple of years ago, this would happen.  It was very weird, my voice would go hoarse almost immediately after eating one.  But for sure the better I feel, the stronger my voice is.


The main time I notice hoarseness is when I am having a lot of stress. It gets really bad then.


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Quoted from Patti
  
   Hello-This is my first post, ever! I hope I'm in the right place.
            I have been so impressed with all the benefits of trehalose that I ordered some and have
            tried it a dozen times.Within two to three hours after taking it, I develope gas and
            bloating,followed in a few hours by diarhea.The reaction is always the same.I'm so
            disappointed.I have never had problems with a supplement before and never with
            mushrooms,which I understand contain trehalose.
                 Just as an aside,I have been on the type O diet for a year,followed by my swami hunter
             diet for two and a half years, with great success.My digestion has been very good during
             this time.Maybe all I can do is rely on the benefits of green tea,instead.
                 Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated.Thanks

            


Hi Patti and welcome!  
I'd suggest that you begin with a very small amount daily, like 1/4 of recommended dosage (or even less).  Gradually build up over a period of some weeks.  



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If Trehalose is found in "sunflower seeds and sea algae as well as being prevalent in some mushrooms, such as shiitake..." & those things are avoids for Explorers/Gatherers...could it affect people of those genotypes, less favourably than others?
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If Trehalose is found in "sunflower seeds and sea algae as well as being prevalent in some mushrooms, such as shiitake..." & those things are avoids for Explorers/Gatherers...could it affect people of those genotypes, less favourably than others?

I doubt that it is the Trehalose component that makes those items avoids...


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      Spring-Thank you for your reply.I agree about how helpful Intrinsa is.I have been on Intrinsa,
                 Ara6,and PolyfloraO for four years.My digestion has been good during that time.
                 However,maybe there is an unsuspected problem that I am unaware of.This journey
                 holds so many surprises.

      Victoria-I will definately try your suggestion of reducing the dose to a quarter or less and
                  slowly work up from there.I had tried just a half dosage several times to no avail.
                  but probably not for a long enough period.I guess I just got scared that I was doing
                  some damage to my system.Thanks for your help.
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Patti, it is so true that we do get those surprises now and then! I have even noticed that the reaction to avoids, which I normally avoid like the plague if I possibly can, are much more noticeable since I have been taking Trehalose! Imagine that!

For instance, I had some cheese that was a super food for me on the first SWAMI diet, so the other day I decided to have some of it in scrambled eggs which I love! (Even though it is an avoid for me now!  ) WOW! I was almost bent double for about a hour with pain!! And that was so even though I had taken two Lactaid before I ate it!! I knew every step of the way where that cheese was until it finally got out of my system!! Before I started taking Trehalose, there was only a little discomfort that lasted just a few minutes. Mama Trehalose was simply looking out for me!! WOW!
AND, BTW, cottage cheese which is a super food for me does not bother me in the least even though I eat it without Lactaid!! (I am super lactose intolerant!)


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HAS ANYONE bought plain Trehalose and used it IN what? any visble signs that its good for you? where did you buy it?

Patti welcome.. Are you taking the TC with grapefruit or lemon? are those on your food list?  

for me the grapefruit is near a addiction.. I slice it in 1/2 inces and then sprinkle 1/4 teaspoon gofer the fruit.. several times a day.. making it 1 teaspoon.. but I was advised recently that I can have 2 spoons..

I ate popcorn on avoid the other day and almonds a diamond  which give me heartburn..  and still I came down with Asthma and a cough from my upper chest, feeling nasty.. I took a antihistamine to avoid a nasal drip I felt coming on.. ..

I also have cold feet at least once a day..

I think all of this hangs together.. food first.. emotions second.. Like I wish I did not SWALLOW bad foods.. my bronchial agree.. I am a coward with some mental assertion issues, so the cold feet make all the sense!

I need to work on that..   BUT TC is going to be with me.  

I did break up the addiction to grapefruit to one or two slices a day instead of a whole one.. just to put TC on that by itself.  and with allowable pineapple and or papaya for more liquid fruit, seems to be less abrasive in my upper stomach .. I also make celery juice now..

I will order plain Trehalose from some place.. and replace it as sugar in the house.. making lemon juice water or tea maybe when it gets warmer..

So you see we can make choices..  and we learn from all of them.. all the best..


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HAS ANYONE bought plain Trehalose and used it IN what? any visble signs that its good for you? where did you buy it?


As I recall TJ & DOS indicated they bought some from Swansons.

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWU478/ItemDetail

Endowment for medical research and/or their affiliates have been mentioned several times. I do not recall anyone saying they had bought the product.

http://www.endowmentmed.org/content/view/902/122/

Lem's trehalose was mentioned at some point by DOS, but I do not recall the retailer he purchased from. http://www.opentip.com/Home-Kitchen/Lem-Trehalose-Oz-For-Pounds-Meat-p-3686929.html

Here is a vendor, that is fairly economical (That I do not recall anyone mentioning):

http://philoutlet.ecrater.com/p/13624547/trehalose-5kg-100-pure-food-grade




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HAS ANYONE bought plain Trehalose and used it IN what? any visble signs that its good for you? where did you buy it?


Goldie, before you kick the barn door down, I think you are going to have to bite the bullet and be your own experiment (or detection agency)!! Nobody can tell us exactly what problems we have in our bodies that Trehalose needs to address. For instance, I have just finished a Clorox job (horrors to the nth after my bad reaction in the past), and it is going to be interesting to see what Mama Trehalose comes up with in this situation, if anything. Will report later.....

Okay, I'm back this morning to report that last night I poured sweat like crazy most of the night, but I feel fine this morning except for a very slight headache. Hopefully, that is the end of it..... I hate Clorox but sometimes there is no way around using it.


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I was wondering about PLAIN Trehalose to be used in place of sugar.. by the pound..

So far the Trehalose COMPLEX seems to really be helpful.. I would normally be sick from a number of causes.. my sinus would be bad and more for a week...

Instead I feel as if I can overcome this allergy to blossoming oaks and popcorn attack .. in just a day, two or three.  I feel it is working to have cleared out the sinus much faster and allows for some less water accumulation.. But that is from the complex version.. I am pleased that I can actually tell that it works. I just reordered containers.

I am going to order the plain from one of the above links and then see what I could do with it.. like make rice balls with sweetness added.  Or serve it to my friends as sugar..

NOW if I could figure out why I feel so cold by 3 am that my teeth chatter that would be nice.. or throughout the day.. why am I going from cold to hot and frozen feet again.. I am waiting for that to get cleared up.  ---------

--------????? AM I having fewer HOTFLASHES?? instead of every hour and a half.. maybe only 3-4  a day?  Could it be with the TC as that is all that I am doing?????





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Goldie, check out this person on the left side of the page and read about their experiments with Trehalose. It is a rather long review.

http://www.amazon.com/100-Pure.....amp;showViewpoints=1


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NOW if I could figure out why I feel so cold by 3 am that my teeth chatter that would be nice.. or throughout the day.. why am I going from cold to hot and frozen feet again.. I am waiting for that to get cleared up.  ---------


This may not be true for you, Goldie, but when I start feeling chilly I know it is time to paint on more iodine.


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Spring I will try that.. thanks..  


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I have been on Trehalose for only about a week and a half. I noticed my hair ( I have very thick coarse hair), and skin are softer. Heels of feet, face and back of hands.  Looks like a couple of scars are shrinking in size and lightening in color. Feel like I have a little more energy too. I think I will try mixing with facial moisturizer and see what happens. Dr D may have to sell this stuff by the ton, although storage could be difficult.

Also wish they would sell in individual packets for travel. TSA frowns on white powdery looking stuff in bags in your carry on. Had a problem with laundry soap once until they tasted it, that was funny stuff.


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I have been on Trehalose for only about a week and a half. I noticed my hair ( I have very thick coarse hair), and skin are softer. Heels of feet, face and back of hands.  Looks like a couple of scars are shrinking in size and lightening in color. Feel like I have a little more energy too. I think I will try mixing with facial moisturizer and see what happens. Dr D may have to sell this stuff by the ton, although storage could be difficult.

Also wish they would sell in individual packets for travel. TSA frowns on white powdery looking stuff in bags in your carry on. Had a problem with laundry soap once until they tasted it, that was funny stuff.


Wonderful!!! I have something to report too. My blood pressure is getting so low that I am going to have to stop my BP medication altogether I guess!! I just checked it three times over the last hour, and it is 109/49!!! My doctor is going to have a stroke!!! He has been so proud to keep prescribing medication for me!      


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Yes, most wonderful! Warm congratulations Spring!  


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Yes, most wonderful! Warm congratulations Spring!  

Thank you, yaeli!! I have been trying to find something salty to eat!!

Now, I will be keeping a close watch on a few Lipomas (fatty tumors)that I would be more than happy to be rid of - we will see if Mama Trehalose is up to the job! I won't complain, though, if she is not because I have already gotten such wonderful results!!!


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I am telling one of my best O friends the wonderful news, she is around my age and recently has started to suffer from high BP. In addition her late mother had suffered from dementia, and she is quite scared. Having read this thread and having ordered TC (must by arriving within a couple of days), I've told her about it, and we are both looking forward.  


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Is it ok for diabetics, pre-diabetics and ex-diabetics?



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Is it ok for diabetics, pre-diabetics and ex-diabetics?

I can't imagine why it wouldn't be...  One of the benefits is to assist in clearing nerve receptor sites, so they work better.  

Dr. D. talked about it in his 3 West talk.  The link has been all over the forums recently, but I'll post it again since I'm referencing it...
http://generativemedicine.org/blogs/dadamolab/?p=106


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I am telling one of my best O friends the wonderful news, she is around my age and recently has started to suffer from high BP. In addition her late mother had suffered from dementia, and she is quite scared. Having read this thread and having ordered TC (must by arriving within a couple of days), I've told her about it, and we are both looking forward.  


I know you are, and I am so glad you are about to start on this journey!! Hoping you have wonderful things to report!!! I don't think Dr. D. has ever been more excited about anything in his entire professional life than he is about all the possibilities of this stuff!!


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Oooohh I'm soo jealous... my latest NAP orders took my Visa to its limit so I'll have to wait for a couple of months before I can order any more... Or maybe for my birthday this month
I can't wait to try it!!


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Oooohh I'm soo jealous... my latest NAP orders took my Visa to its limit so I'll have to wait for a couple of months before I can order any more... Or maybe for my birthday this month
I can't wait to try it!!
Happy Birthday!  

Maitake (beneficial for O's) contains trehalose.



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It may be the combination of the Trehalose and Ribose, but I'm experiencing a steadiness of energy that I have not been blessed with in the past decade.  It is remarkable!  This is not like the false energy from stimulants, but the calm, clear energy of youth.  (Dare I even say that?)  

This is like a lightening of the fog - not just mentally, but physically, too.  At this point, it comes and goes, but steadily is increasing over the weeks.  And I'm seeing some lightening of 'age spots'.



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It may be the combination of the Trehalose and Ribose, but I'm experiencing a steadiness of energy that I have not been blessed with in the past decade.  It is remarkable!  This is not like the false energy from stimulants, but the calm, clear energy of youth.  (Dare I even say that?)  

This is like a lightening of the fog - not just mentally, but physically, too.  At this point, it comes and goes, but steadily is increasing over the weeks.  And I'm seeing some lightening of 'age spots'.


Just wonderful!! The only time I have noticed my energy lagging was when my blood pressure dropped. That is the reason that I am easing off of the little I was taking. (I mean I eased off the BP medication!!) At first, I didn't realize it was my blood pressure. I thought I simply needed to eat something. But when that consistently didn't work, I decided, "Hey! I think this is my BP!" Sure enough it was! Every person I know my age who has been diagnosed with high BP is on two to five different medications for it!!   And they still don't work very well, and the side effects....!!!!! (sigh)


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This is like a lightening of the fog - not just mentally, but physically, too.  At this point, it comes and goes, but steadily is increasing over the weeks.  And I'm seeing some lightening of 'age spots'.

I am sensing a similar response with the fog lessening.  It is definitely come and go with me t this point, but I'm happy to see any benefit.  
It also seems like some "suntan residue" dark spot areas on one side of my neck is lightening.
I also had two fatty deposits that were very sore last weekend and ended up looking very bruised.  I think the body is assimilating them.  
The body must be happy with the Trehalose Complex, as I just had to bring my dosage up from 1 teaspoon per day to 2...

I'm pretty happy with this product!



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I am sensing a similar response with the fog lessening.  It is definitely come and go with me t this point, but I'm happy to see any benefit.  
It also seems like some "suntan residue" dark spot areas on one side of my neck is lightening.
I also had two fatty deposits that were very sore last weekend and ended up looking very bruised.  I think the body is assimilating them.  
The body must be happy with the Trehalose Complex, as I just had to bring my dosage up from 1 teaspoon per day to 2...

I'm pretty happy with this product!


I think I may gradually go up to 1 T. once a day and see how that works for me. Right now I take 1 teas. in the AM and 1 teas. during the afternoon. That is exciting about the fatty deposits!  Mine haven't turned blue, but they are getting softer.

I'm pretty happy with everything about this product so far too!!


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I have received a question from someone with hyperactive thyroid who wants to know if there is any effect for her to be concerned about.  She loses weight too easily if her thyroid is messed with.

I'm not aware of anything of concern here - does anyone else know of anything I should mention to her?



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I don't know of any specific warning about not taking it with thyroid issues.  It may make the thyroid work better as it cleans sluggish cells.


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Additional info on the woman is that she is dealing with M.S.  Still young and active.  It seems to me that Trehalose would be a good recommendation for her.



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Additional info on the woman is that she is dealing with M.S.  Still young and active.  It seems to me that Trehalose would be a good recommendation for her.


Well, from what we read, people have been consuming Trehalose for thousands of years so it seems reasonable to me that it can't do anything but help. I'm excited about using it on mixed fruit to keep it fresh instead of ascorbic acid crystals that come from no telling what!

Another thing, I don't worry nearly as much about our grass turning brown since I know that Trehalose is actually keeping it alive until the rain comes!!


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Wonderful!!! I have something to report too. My blood pressure is getting so low that I am going to have to stop my BP medication altogether I guess!! I just checked it three times over the last hour, and it is 109/49!!! My doctor is going to have a stroke!!! He has been so proud to keep prescribing medication for me!      
Most interesting!

My GP has me on Coversyl Plus.  He has plans to see me every two weeks since he measured 160/80 over a week ago.  

Keeping the swelling down especially during the hot humid weather that seems to have started now is going to be important.  I would much rather lose pounds by sweating out my gardening chores than do EMS "exercise" or walking.


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It may be the combination of the Trehalose and Ribose, but I'm experiencing a steadiness of energy that I have not been blessed with in the past decade.  It is remarkable!  This is not like the false energy from stimulants, but the calm, clear energy of youth.  (Dare I even say that?)  

This is like a lightening of the fog - not just mentally, but physically, too.  At this point, it comes and goes, but steadily is increasing over the weeks.  And I'm seeing some lightening of 'age spots'.
An indication of the reversal of liver damage, perhaps?



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Most interesting!

My GP has me on Coversyl Plus.  He has plans to see me every two weeks since he measured 160/80 over a week ago.  

Keeping the swelling down especially during the hot humid weather that seems to have started now is going to be important.  I would much rather lose pounds by sweating out my gardening chores than do EMS "exercise" or walking.


I used to take Pau d'Arco for swelling several years ago. It works too.  I hope you have a BP monitor to keep track of your blood pressure yourself. It is far more important than a single reading in the doctor's office.

I love gardening too.....The benefits are wonderful!


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I get this very miserable 'cold' really a allergy attack to oaks.. 3 times a year.. I am going through it again and am miserable.. No difference.. YET I seem not to have a headache.. for several days.. I am still hesitating to say it out loud.. but ...... so here goes the count.. starting May 1... I am counting the days..    that would be a big thing.. it almost feels as if the caffeine rebound has lessened.. ! but I am counting..  

On the other hand.. a day later.. I had the worst night of my life.. I mean every cell in my nose and sinus and down my throat was hurting .. I mean not just discomfort, but with all the painkillers even I sat up all night moaning.. I felt as if I was being scrubbed from the inside out,...

What would be fun is that it really could have been a scrubbing.. a real reaction for my allergy attack that by itself is enough to wish to die.  I would be happy to think that maybe this particular painful episode might have been part of a deep cleaning out of memories sludge..

I usually got through 500 tissues on the fifth night, I did that last night also, but I don't ever remember having that much pain.  I AM NOT saying that it is the TC but I am just wondering.. I am still suffering, really suffering even this morning.. and the sneezing.,.. I mean how many times can one do so? ! I am exhausted..  But would love nothing more than that the suffering should not be in vain.. if it would serve to clean out cellular stuff that has been there since the day I can remember.. it would be fine with me.. but for all of you.. just be aware.. for now.. it could be the TC or just coincidence?!?!   



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An indication of the reversal of liver damage, perhaps?



You know, now that you mentioned it -- I feel less of a burden on my liver and my emotional smoothness is certainly the way I feel when my liver is healthy.



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TC has become part of my  morning routine ... one of the first things I do (after Oil Pulling, dry brushing, showering and meditation) ... I have a teaspoon of it with my lemon water ... The effects since I started it had been fantastic!  Easier to focus and stay on target ... Even when gremlins turn up, it is easier to deal with them without deviating from my set path ...




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Has anyone noticed if using the Trehalose Complex does anything in regard to sugar cravings?  That is my big weakness when attempting to follow any healthier way of eating. Does it affect the brain the way regular sugar does- or does it metabolize differently so that it tastes sweet but that's it.  I am aware of all of the other benefits- just wondering about how it affects the "sweet tooth."
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Has anyone noticed if using the Trehalose Complex does anything in regard to sugar cravings?  That is my big weakness when attempting to follow any healthier way of eating. Does it affect the brain the way regular sugar does- or does it metabolize differently so that it tastes sweet but that's it.  I am aware of all of the other benefits- just wondering about how it affects the "sweet tooth."

There are two sugars in the Trehalose Complex.  Trehalose - most of which remains in the original state, and Ribose - which is utilized at a cellular level.  Since there is a larger proportion of Trehalose, most of the sugar in the TC will not be used as sugar, so you get the "flavor" without most of the "sugar rush".  I haven't sensed any additional sweet craving, but then again, I eat adequate amounts of protein, so don't generally crave sweets anyway...

If you get a sweet craving, eat some compliant protein and the sugar craving usually fades away.


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Yes, it does seem like the sugar cravings have decreased, I,ve been jonesing for sugar since I got home home from vacation and that has been a lot better. Although the first week on it I craved grains really bad. Commercials for pizza almost drove me insane with want.


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I like the IDEA of allowed sugar taste for diabetics where otherwise there is so much prohibition against any fun in living with diabetes.  In the 2 spoons of TC a day I would not care about it being good nor bad as it has medicinal quality stuff that goes way beyond sugar..

I think it could be a 'link' in getting diabetes fixed.. meaning, possibly reverse the effects of damage to all sorts of places in the body.  

I experienced a great reduction in headaches, after the first container of TC.  I have not tried it without the COMPLEX ingredients.  Even through my usual daily  headaches (lasting 6 hours) have not gone away 100% I must say I think they have been greatly reduced in intensity, duration and frequencies.  I am hopeful that as I am taking TC that I will get rid of them completely.  I will report on that.

YET:  I had a bad allergy cold symptom episode, and during this last week repetition thereof, I have had a very intense time of it.  The pain in the cells was greater and longer lasting than any other time.  I am not certain just what it meant, but it felt very painful from IRRITATION. I don't see my allergy attacks as healing crises but possible this time there was shedding of material that I have not seen before in the same way.  I still ended up taking antihistamines and antibacterial drugs, (or I would be ill for weeks) but I also needed a drug I usually don't take called Propranalol (I think one could take other things like Benadril, but that is what I had in the house)  only twice but long enough to have it work as a calming agent /cell wise.  There was a definite difference in the course of this 'attack'..  I will see how such attacks in future will show up differently.  I feel that with the results of greatly enhanced reaction this time, that possibly by taking the TC over a long period at least a years worth, it might clean up what causes the repeated attacks in the first place.  I see the healing happening as cleaning up 'debree' leftover from when I was a infant, and having a chance at getting rid of the body memory reaction to whatever nearly killed me after I was born and has bothered me periodically ever since every 3-4 month for one week.  I am functioning by instinct here, but it just 'feels' like it is possible.  THERE was a difference this time, and in that difference (greater intensity) I hope to experience a difference as  time goes on.   I will keep track of it for the year and report on it.  In time I would like to be able to do without the repeated antibacterials.              

On the other hand if no one should care about 'negatives/positives, let me know..


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It's here, it's here!!    Today I received the parcel with the TC in post office and brought it home. I didn't wait very long, and within few minutes I had my first Level Teaspoon with a glass of water and a little cranberry concentrate. Very exciting! Am I curious...   


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I finally caved and ordered some myself, although my finances would have liked me to wait till next month...
I got ara6 as well, in powder as the capsules aren't compatible with TC


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I finally caved and ordered some myself, although my finances would have liked me to wait till next month...
Good for you!!!   Who knows, TC may bring along into our minds whole new ideas that will worth our while  



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I have developed an even stronger aversion to anything with regular granulated sugar in it since I started taking Trehalose. Fruits taste better than ever, and they are totally satisfying to me. I suppose I should be thankful that avoids have made me hurt one way or another without fail - almost immediately. That way I haven't had any problem at all avoiding them.

I am very sensitive to the amount of fruit I need in a day, though. If I eat more than that, I can be sure I will have problems. I don't need a "servings" guide for that.


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What would be fun is that it really could have been a scrubbing.. a real reaction for my allergy attack that by itself is enough to wish to die.  I would be happy to think that maybe this particular painful episode might have been part of a deep cleaning out of memories sludge..

I usually got through 500 tissues on the fifth night, I did that last night also, but I don't ever remember having that much pain.  I AM NOT saying that it is the TC but I am just wondering.. I am still suffering, really suffering even this morning.. and the sneezing.,.. I mean how many times can one do so? ! I am exhausted..  But would love nothing more than that the suffering should not be in vain.. if it would serve to clean out cellular stuff that has been there since the day I can remember.. it would be fine with me.. but for all of you.. just be aware.. for now.. it could be the TC or just coincidence?!?!   

There is no telling what was in there that needed to come out, Goldie, and it may explain why you have had all those headaches. This is going to be very interesting to see how you feel in a few days......


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TC has become part of my  morning routine ... one of the first things I do (after Oil Pulling, dry brushing, showering and meditation) ... I have a teaspoon of it with my lemon water ... The effects since I started it had been fantastic!  Easier to focus and stay on target ... Even when gremlins turn up, it is easier to deal with them without deviating from my set path ...

Cristina, it is amazing that being able to focus better has been the first experience of so many. It is almost like we have found a little something right out of the Garden of Eden.


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Right now it looks too good to be true... I suspect TC switches on the placebo mechnism... Is there such a thing as placebo mechanism?     (Confusion and suspicion - my typical reaction to any sudden good surprise and embodiment of good expectations. Next step is grateful weeping ) To be continued.  


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Right now it looks too good to be true... I suspect TC switches on the placebo mechnism... Is there such a thing as placebo mechanism?     (Confusion and suspicion - my typical reaction to any sudden good surprise and embodiment of good expectations. Next step is grateful weeping ) To be continued.  


I could write the book about being suspicious and the placebo effect. I'm so suspicious of things to do with my health that even if I were put in a trial, and I was indeed using a valid product instead of the placebo, the results would have to be really noticeable for me to think anything but that I was taking the placebo! In other words, I'm really hard to convince.

Actually, my shocked surprise at the results I was getting from this stuff was the reason for the "over the top" title to this thread. As I said later on, I was looking at long-term results, not anything immediate at all.

As for being suspicious, I bought a new cereal a few weeks ago and a visitor who is on a gluten free diet was here soon after. They knew I couldn't eat corn and when they were reading the ingredients they noticed the word "grits." They associated that with corn right away, but it wasn't corn at all but buckwheat. Anyway, I told them that I didn't know how anything could possibly get past me I was so suspicious of everything I bought. (Getting stuck too many times in the past has taught me a few things.)


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Thank you Spring.   As if to emphaziseand approve of it all, I am reading this over a bowl of cooked buckwheat I've boiled right now for supper.


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Thank you Spring.   As if to emphaziseand approve of it all, I am reading this over a bowl of cooked buckwheat I've boiled right now for supper.


I do love buckwheat! To keep my pancakes from having that strange greenish color, I dump in some carob!


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Here is another link for this and Lyme..

http://www.dadamo.com/clinic/2010_5-6_newsletter.htm

Interesting comment that TC is not compatible with some other things.. lets be aware of that..

also Please consider lemon, lime or grapefruit to enhance the effects of TC per Dr D..



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Here is another link for this and Lyme..

http://www.dadamo.com/clinic/2010_5-6_newsletter.htm

Interesting comment that TC is not compatible with some other things.. lets be aware of that..

also Please consider lemon, lime or grapefruit to enhance the effects of TC per Dr D..


It is the dumbest thing, but I keep forgetting about lime! I can use lime one week and lemon the next, and once a month I can use grapefruit for a week. I love lime the best. Can't remember if the grocery has organic limes or not. Maybe they will start having them if they don't if I ask.


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FYI- I can get bags of organic lemons and limes at Trader Joe's at a very reasonable price.
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FYI- I can get bags of organic lemons and limes at Trader Joe's at a very reasonable price.


The closest TJ's to me is about 75 miles away, but Kroger has carried them in the past. I just don't know if they do now or not because I had forgotten about them! That is where I get my lemons.


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The TC influence on me is very strong.      So far I've had 3 tsps.

This morning I'm taking a break, then will reduce to half a tspful x 2 daily, and see.     


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This morning I'm taking a break, then will reduce to half a tspful x 2 daily, and see.     

I had to back down to 1/2 tsp. 1 time a day for the first several days...


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I've stayed at 1 tsp once a day.  



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Like Victoria, I am staying at 1tsp once a day ... so far first thing in the morning with my lemon drink ...




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What do you notice yaeli?
I can describe it as an awakening. Isn't this what life is all about? It is for me...     I felt as if a bulb lit inside my head. Oddly enough, at the same day I also bought 2 new bulbs to replace the old burnt ones in the corridor and in the bedroom...  I underwent a small mental upheaval - this cleared towards the evening, so I took my 3rd tsp... I understood that I must reduce the quantity when my night sleep wasn't exactly a sleep, as the Song of Songs goes: "I am asleep and my heart is awake". This only happens when I fall in love and there's a tremendous overload of energy.    



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Yaeli, I was having so much fun with the "overload of energy" that I simply enjoyed the ride! Needless to say, I was wondering when I was going to crash or whatever. It never happened! I wondered if I would ever be able to sleep again. That was a needless concern too.

I have taken a LOT of different supplements in the past fifty years, and I have never seen anything remotely like it. I think people may as well expect that it will change their lives..... Some sooner than others, of course.

Nevertheless, I am a great believer in taking things slow and easy with a new supplement! It horrifies me sometimes how people will throw down a big "dose" of something they have never even taken before! Whether it is a supplement or medication, I start below the recommended amount. I have reacted to 'way too many things not to be careful. I can say that my reaction to Trehalose has all been good and definitely fit just right for every occasion! I would certainly tell you if it were anything different!


"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." -- Benjamin Franklin
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My experience is that it doesn't take a lot to be effective.  It is like waking up to life again for me also.    More of a good thing is not necessarily better.



Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.
Let me not pass you by in quest
of some rare and perfect tomorrow.
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TC is a medicine! I take it as such, in 1/4 spoon at a time on grapefruit slices.. .. if I take more, I feel it is 'scrubbing' my insides all over.. feels like it is 'cleaning' the vessel linings CLEAN all over.

I think I am better of switching to grapefruit juice with water.. The grapefruit seems to be becoming abrasive in my mouth... for a while I loved it ..

I don't know if the trehalose as a sugar substitute would be having the same scrubbing effect..

I do seem to have survived many days without headaches - or severely lessoned them.  That is remarkable..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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So, 1 teaspoon x 2 daily were way too much for the beginning. Today I didn't take any, have slept a lot during the day, and now I am not tired at all. Tomorrow I'll take ABJoe's way and will go 1/2 a teaspoon x 1 daily.

Looking forward!  


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I am a great believer in taking things slow and easy with a new supplement!
With supplements as with foods, it's personal, you tweak as you go.



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Yes, it does seem like the sugar cravings have decreased, I,ve been jonesing for sugar since I got home home from vacation and that has been a lot better. Although the first week on it I craved grains really bad. Commercials for pizza almost drove me insane with want.
It is good to be forewarned!



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I do seem to have survived many days without headaches - or severely lessoned them.  That is remarkable..  
This is wonderful.



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I have been taking one teaspoon twice a day since fairly soon after I started. It seemed that everything came together to indicate that I was at just the right place and time for this new "supplement!" Or maybe it simply seemed that way because Trehalose just happens to be the right supplement for any time!

I didn't notice any particular cravings after I started taking it. But I have lost weight, and that was without going around hungry.

I would love to know how people with Lyme Disease respond to it.


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What do you notice yaeli?
Improved attention, perception and comprehension and refined sensuality.

For example:

I don't know how far I'll go tonight listening to the most fabulous performance of Mahler's 2nd symphony they are broadcasting right now in the Mezzo channel (European) - from a 2003 concert in Lucerne festival with Abbado (Mahler always p----s me off because he is painfully pessimist and cynical), BUT I can assure you, that never before had I such a clear, wonderful, rewarding experience listening to this magnificent work of art under the baton of Abbado, the most gentle and sensitive, heavenly talented, unbelievable conductor. Well this is no exaggeration. Incidentally, both Mahler and Abbado are Cancers (July 7th & June 26 respectively). Immense, sheer beauty.



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