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I would buy her plain Trehalose, (via internet 2 pds for about 25.- but healthier) so she can use as much as she wants from her sugar jar... and use the TC as medicine Am and afternoon before 3pm..
So it's the other things in TC -- the d-ribose and citrus pectin -- that interact with quercetin?

I have all three components.  She was ripping through it so fast I had to find a cheaper option.



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yes..

but the plain Trehalose sugar is still healthier,, but expensive also.. at 25 for 2 pounds..


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So it's the other things in TC -- the d-ribose and citrus pectin -- that interact with quercetin?

Trehalose stimulates autophagy.  It is my understanding that quercitin affects the autophagy in a manner that cancels at least some of the effect of the Trehalose.  It has been too long since I read or heard that information to remember exactly - and I don't have the time right now to pursue a better answer for you.


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I don't have the time right now to pursue a better answer for you.
If you tell me how you would do this, I can do it myself.



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It was written about in N~1 on here..  By Dr. D.. but on line there is tons of writing..

What I am NOT CLEAR about.. is which Plain Trehalose is best for O's for instance.. like Trehalose from Mushrooms or from corn or whatever?  Does that matter..?  IS PLAIN Trehalose just a sugar replacement?  or is Trehalose Complex the stuff that makes it deal with the auto phage.. meaning eating up debree in our brain and body..?  I guess the only way I get my answers is to try it..


As for reading / learning .. I think I gave you a link to N~1 before.. look for EAT ME and find this

Autophagy (‘self-eating’) is a catabolic (breakdown) process used by cells to degrade and remove some of their internal components deemed to be unnecessary or undesirable. Like our window company, cells are little factories of a sort, and as such they function under many of the same dynamic considerations: Things accumulate; byproducts are produced that can’t do anything, etc.


http://n-equals-one.com/blogs/


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If you tell me how you would do this, I can do it myself.

There is a good write-up about it in the description of the Trehalose Complex:
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP067

There is a great explanation of the concepts in an audio recording of a presentation:
http://www.generativemedicine.org/3west.shtml

Dr. D. wrote a blog as well, but most of what I remember from it is in the Trehalose explanation in top link...


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Reading so many good comments here I ordered Trehalose complex in November. After taking for a few days, I started feeling tired so I have to stop. I assumed it is good for every one but it may not.
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After taking for a few days, I started feeling tired so I have to stop. I assumed it is good for every one but it may not.

It can cause some side-effects when you start taking it.  I can't take it at the indicated dosage, but I do take some regularly.


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Ha! Since Trehalose can defeat 70 per cent of odors, I wonder if spraying a 2% solution in a garbage can would make it smell better.    I'm experimenting as I write. I have the solution mixed together, one-fourth cup water/one-fourth teaspoon Trehalose Complex. I might even try this for a deodorant eventually. Spraying it on the skin during the dry, harsh winter cold would probably work wonders as a moisturizer. Dr. D.'s latest wonder got me started on this train of thought after I delved more into what is written there about Trehalose. I may have to boil the stuff to get it to melt. I should have used some that I had reduced to the consistency of powdered sugar. Oh, they are even into putting this stuff in eye drops for dry eyes! Imagine that! But it certainly makes sense.

Another thing I'm interested in is the astonishing results people are getting with using plain Trehalose to get rid of cataracts. They don't recommend quercetin for cataracts, but plain old Trehalose works!  Dear me. I see I am back on my train again.... I will have to order some of this plain old Trehalose and start "preaching" to all my favorite older people who have cataracts! And maybe I will  FINALLY get to try it on some of my flowers too. Wooo Hooo!


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Dosage for TC is a personal finding.  When I first got it I took the recommended one level teaspoon and it was too much.

Now I take about a half a teaspoon (sometimes less) along with the ARA6 and it works very well.
If I forget to take it for a day I feel the difference.  I feel as if something is missing.

I take it usually right after breakfast while I'm doing something at the computer.

It really is quite wonderful and a great addition to my supplements on a daily basis.

Please give it another try.

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Reading so many good comments here I ordered Trehalose complex in November. After taking for a few days, I started feeling tired so I have to stop. I assumed it is good for every one but it may not.


I wouldn't give up on it yet. You didn't say how much you were taking. Maybe you could try a lower dosage. Are you taking ARA6 with it? That will give you tons of energy. If you don't want to invest in the ARA6, you could try the ARA Plus just don't take it at the same time as the Trehalose because of the quercetin in it. Hope you can make it work for you!


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SPRING this is for you...

I have so many supplements in my closets that it is embarrassing.  I take them for a while and if they do not improve my life I stop taking them.. The money I 'throw' out is sad..

One of three items I do take is Trehalose Complex.  I DO TYPE the word complex EVERY TIME when I mean it and not the PLAIN part of it..

I think we do readers a disservice when we only say Trehalose... Dr D has not suggested that plain trehalose will be as good as the combo of the Complex.. Maybe others have written about it, but so far we have NOT had anyone here who seemed to have BOUGHT PLAIN trehalose and tried it for anything.  IF they had I have not seen the postings...... (maybe one with making cookies who gave up).  Did anyone buy some and is not using it, I might buy it off you.. )

I have had great results in using T Complex, it has cleared to gunk off on my tongue and early on it has made me less depressed, and in some way it has (cleared my head) to afford me a way of finding out that my headaches where self inflicted stress, that then triggers muscle tension and a headache, for which Magnesium Gel is my current solution.

I now take the TC in lemon water in the evening before going to sleep, It does better work when doing so, and I take it first thing in the morning with a spritz of lemon as well.  That way I am not mixing it with any thing like quercetin.  Doing so, I do not wake up parched, I seem to have less mucus in my throat, and I may sleep more soundly not waking up every 20 minutes from mucus shifting needing to shift from one nostril to the other.  

I do think that the experiment with PLAIN T is on important one.. for diabetics who use sugar in any form this would be the solution.   I WONDER IF 'I' as a chocolate (or avoid) eating person could MAKE some kind of SUBSTITUTE salad dressing, sweet HOT chocolate, or some dessert that could stand in for other avoids???

I WONDER if plain T has a flavor like mushrooms (I think TC has a small drift-maybe my IMMAGINATION I have a smell issue with mushrooms)        yet.. could it serve to satisfy the TASTE BUDS and still not trigger the diabetes reactions.. or the Corticosteroids that add weight to my belly???????????????????????????????

SPRING would you mind doing some research with me?  some experiment with plain T?????????

I like sweet salad dressing, or mayonnaise, or sugar on my salad, could I buy some Plain T and substitute the sweet component with it.. would hot cocoa be delish enough to be healthier than DEcaf?  

Spring you and I could we work together?  Like deciding which PLAIN T would be best to buy .. I am chicken to buy it alone ON THE INTERNET< I wish there was a reliable source...   

JUST IMAGINE if diabetics had a source of reliable sugary sweet substitute that is good for them IN PLACE of artificial sweeteners?  I think there could be a whole new MARKET.. NO wonder the Japanese developed this product!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   

It might be as big a discovery as was Saccharin in it's time.. Man o man, packaged in small bags.... I wonder what money could be made.. ????????????????????????   Maybe the market could yet use one more sugar free sugar good for diabetics.  Imagine it being added to the Soda making machines currently sold all over?  ---------- wow.. or a new candy?   I am running wild with more ideas..

I need to eat more TC >> remember?????? early on it gave me courage***** after 2 weeks !!!!!!!!!!! It might just do it again.  (**** I started to take it again the last two weeks after 2 month off.) Asking what IF ?????  could be exiting.


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I appreciate all your responses. I did not throw away the bottle so I am going to try again.

It is T Complex from Dr D and taking 1/2 teaspoon with lemon juice in the morning. I was not taking ARA6. I did not know what that is so I have asked customer service when I was ordering T Complex and did not think it was necessary.

I will try with less amount varying morning or evening. Thank you.
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Some people find the evening less desirable as many get active from it.. some like to stop taking it after lets say PM..

I seem to do ok with it late just before going to sleep.. and then any time I wake up for the first time.. also with lemon juice..

Ha, Maybe when I took it with Grapefruit early in the year.. I felt energized??? !! with lemon I do not.. that sounds quire..  


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Ha, Maybe when I took it with Grapefruit early in the year.. I felt energized??? !! with lemon I do not.. that sounds quire..  
Somewhere way back in this thread (I'm not going to read back through all 36 pages) someone posed a list of foods containing quercetin and "citrus fruits" was on that list.

When I Google it, I come up with this list:
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Many plants, especially fruits, contain abundant amounts of quercetin. It is found in oranges, lemons, limes, grapefruit, tangerines, apples, green tea, black tea, red wine, buckwheat and onions. Lesser amounts are found in leafy green vegetables, olive oil, blackberries, dark cherries, bilberries, blueberries, beans, cauliflower and cabbage.
Grapefruit and lemon are both on that list, and Dr D says it's OK to combine grapefruit, but perhaps lemon has more quercetin than grapefruit and you aren't getting as much benefit when using lemon juice.

I'd still like to know why grapefruit is OK when the other quercetin-rich foods aren't....



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BHealthy, I did try to find the list on the thread, but fell short of finding it. I have it printed here somewhere if I can just find it! The majority of the foods on your list don't have enough quercetin to make a difference. Green tea is one of the worst offenders and there are one or two others. I simply get up in the AM and take it first thing. Wait about forty minutes and eat or drink whatever I want except green tea. Take it again about 11:30 and by lunchtime I'm not worrying about what to eat or not to eat. Just a caution that lists on the Internet are not necessarily accurate. What one person may call "abundant" might not be what Dr. D. considers "abundant!"

Okay I found the list! In 100 grams, the following have the noted amount of quercetin: Green tea leaves, dried 255.55 mg.; Black tea leaves, dried, 204.66 mg.; Lovage leaves, 170 mg.. The amounts in other foods, etc., goes off a cliff after these. Dill weed has about 55 mg. in 100 grams -- then it really drops off after that. So just stay away from Green and black teas and Lovage leaves (whatever that is!) and you will be just fine!


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After a period of 7 months taking 1/2 a teaspoon TC every morning, I thought yesterday that it's high time that I try to increase the quantity, and added 1/4 teaspoon (I have this plastic set of 5 sizes). It worked! I felt very very good and optimistic. So, as from yesterday, I'm on 3/4 level teaspoon TC. In the morning. Looking forward  


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Somehow I 'suspect' that "quercetin" in Dr. D's contraindications means quercetin supplement, e.g. a 500 mg capsule, and not all the foods that contain quercetin. The foods which have been specifically contraindicated are green tea, coffee, and turmeric, and, by moderators in this thread, also cranberries. What do you think?


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I will have to buy regular Trehalose.. I need to find out if it has beneficial anything like energy, or happiness, or getting up to work or go to sleep soundly.. or cut cravings..

OR is 'that' all in Dr D's addition of Ribose???




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To get the best benefit for my health I will always consider the Complex as the most beneficial. As for the other uses, who knows? I already know one thing - don't expect the Complex to help at least the plant that I tried it on. It died. But I will try plain Trehalose on another one when I get it. I am using the mix that I simply made of water and TC on my skin and it is incredibile. Works much better than putting the TC on the face without dissolving it first. It takes a while for it to dissolve though.


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I will have to buy regular Trehalose.. I need to find out if it has beneficial anything like energy, or happiness, or getting up to work or go to sleep soundly.. or cut cravings..

OR is 'that' all in Dr D's addition of Ribose???
If you read the reviews on Amazon for Corvalen Ribose, it's being used to treat fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome.  It's supposed to give you energy and one person said it made her sleep better.  The brand that I bought, Vitacost, described it thus:
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serves as a building block for adenosine triphosphate (ATP)the body's basic energy source.* D-ribose is also the carbohydrate backbone of genetic material DNA and RNA.*How does D-ribose support health?Supports healthy cellular energy at the level of ATP.*Promotes recovery after sports stresses.*Supports a healthy cardiovascular system.*Contributes to the function of mitochondria.
It's the component that makes TC smell so good.

The description for Thorne Research Fractionated Citrus Pectin (which is not processed using acetone, ethyl alcohol, or ether) reads:
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fractionated pectin bind to lectins on cell membranes, preventing attachment of unwanted cells.
It's also used to detox heavy metals.  One brand cautioned against using more than the recommended dose of 4-6 teaspoons as it can cause constipation. Pectasol-C brand, made by http://blog.econugenics.com/2011/10/07/new-research-shows-multiple-benefits-of-pectasol-c/, says that it is
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the only form of Modified Citrus Pectin clinically proven and patented for promoting cellular health. Numerous peer-reviewed studies have been published demonstrating PectaSol-C’s powerful ability to bind to excess Galectin -3 molecules in the body and block their harmful effects.
However, this brand does not state whether they use acetone, ethyl alcohol, or ether in processing.  Modified Citrus Pectic is being used to cure cancer.  This was the most expensive component of the three.

Since chlorella is not an option for me, I may use MCP instead to detox the mercury in the tuna I have for lunch.  MCP should be taken away from food.

This review for pure Trehalose has some suggestions on how to use it for cooking: http://www.amazon.com/100%25-P.....p;keywords=trehalose


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Somehow I 'suspect' that "quercetin" in Dr. D's contraindications means quercetin supplement, e.g. a 500 mg capsule, and not all the foods that contain quercetin. The foods which have been specifically contraindicated are green tea, coffee, and turmeric, and, by moderators in this thread, also cranberries. What do you think?
I'm pretty sure Dr D reads every word of this forum.  Do you think he's laughing at us, trying to deduce the hidden meaning(s) in every word he utters?

I think you may be right about the capsules.


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I'm pretty sure Dr D reads every word of this forum.  Do you think he's laughing at us, trying to deduce the hidden meaning(s) in every word he utters?
Nope! I know that when something crucial/critical comes up, Dr D is immediately there to lend a hand.


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Of course, she is right about the "capsules." That is why we don't want to take ARA Plus at the same time as we take TC.  

BHealthy, we have most of the stuff (maybe all) from Amazon already posted on this thread somewhere, and from anywhere else there is anything mentioned about Trehalose and our own Dr. D.'s TC. People have learned how to do amazing research over the years, and we all benefit from it. This board is inhabited with people who can practically read Dr. D's mind from personal experience with him and his staff, and by parsing his and their words for years, etc.,  so I give weight to what they have to say about what he might think. There is no place on the web that is anywhere close to the benefit we get from our collective research, experience and willingness to share anything that might help another person. I give it a great big !!


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I will have to buy regular Trehalose.. I need to find out if it has beneficial anything like energy, or happiness, or getting up to work or go to sleep soundly.. or cut cravings.. OR is 'that' all in Dr D's addition of Ribose???

Goldie, do you have any Bach products? I think some of them would help you. Try Olive for energy, among other things. It works great with TC! I love Bach products!


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