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Goldie
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amyflood... Did you get TC or plain? how much have you been taking? one full spoon or less?

I would love to hear from someone who has plain Trehalose and is using it in family settings.. how much would one use?

How are you eating that you drop weight?  most interesting.. You are O .. I would love some tips.. how long are you on BTD?  --- might it be that TC works on different levels according to your previous sugar intake?  Like, if one would be using regular sugar all day in drinks, then switch to TC would it make a difference? yes I think it might, calorie wise..

I gave up all sugars long ago.. so it is not working for me in that way. But when I wish for a sweet treat I can have a 1/4 spoon directly on my tongue and feel satisfied at least being able to have some kind of treat, and getting a little lift.. - even as I am trying to drop weight, doing all sorts of other things- it is nice to know that this sugar is good for me..  


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Goldie, i have the TC. I have been taking 1 tsp in the morning and 1 tsp at night before bed. I have been on BTD/GTD for about 1.5 yrs. i have not been counting calories or been any "more" compliant these two weeks than i have been. it could be coincidence, but i'll keep experimenting. i rarely eat sugar. if i do eat anything sweet it is with agave.
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Just got another e-mail about how well someone else is doing on TC! Makes my day!!


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sorry friends but, you know, i'm italian!!what is a tsp? tablespoon or teaspoon


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tsp = teaspoon

Tb = tablespoon



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TC truly imporves hydration! This is so lovely. I suddenly find myself ENJOYING even to the point of intoxication every sip I take of a (compliant) beverage. I've noticed this during the last  week or two. Such a feeling exists somewhere in my memory, but I cannot bring myself to recall when was the last time that I had such a complete contentment out of a cup of tea or any other beverage.

Thanks ever so much Dr. D


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Question:  Has anyone eaten T or TC in place of sugar? Does it work from that perspective?        

Here is why I ask.. OK so I am deciding every day what to eat.. and hopefully not gain 5 pounds in a (bad) week. ...

So, does anyone think that TC could substitute for my desires to eat 'all that I see' habit.  

--- Insight: I seem to have done this all my life.. BIG discovery-- Doh -- In other threads I have stated that when I was a skinny kid, I shopped for snacks in store to store, before shopping and cooking the (daily) full 4 course lunches.  I ate at least 100 calories in every one place, bakery, butcher and grocery store, yet did not gain, so all I ate was sustenance, fresh, whole, and sweet. I was size 5 then--- the insight here today is that I still do that IF I go shopping when I am hungry--- a bad move.

And the 'shopping food for eating right now' is the same, (today) whether I do it in a store, or when going out with friends, food in my 'eyesight' makes me want some of this and that and some other thing.. The want is as big as the color or taste differences available.  If food is not available I am contented also-- but here is the rub-- I can not go shopping or visiting when hungry! ---  and I am hungry all day....WoW--- (sorry for this diatribe)...

SO here is my 2. question: Is there a chance that I could eat TC -(never mind the suggested portions) and possibly get more out of it, instead of just 'sugar medicine' that is good for me ????  
Could I possibly address some place in my brain (where hunger sits) and accomplish a diversion to create MY freedom, not to eat unwanted foods?   I wonder.... has anyone tired this at all?

The interesting thing is, that since the 'Trehalose' does NOT trigger my diabetic sugar response of more insulin, yet I get a feeling of sweetness, would more be able to become a safety-net for my constant (upper - under the ribs) 'hunger'?  

I KNOW my hunger comes from feeling (imagined or not) some (esophageal upper) digesting issues.. sorry gross- If I was told that I have a tapeworm who eats my food (right there in the stomach), I would believe it.. that is how my 'stomach' feels.. whatever makes me wish for food, (in the stomach/brain connection) is a miserable 'habit' or compulsion that I interpret as discomfort.  No fun at all.  

So, I am meandering... could there be a solution to still my desires?  Could TC or plain T solve my DILEMMA? ????   Do others here have similar experiences?

I am wondering, could or should I investigate the need for some stomach remedy, that would settle my stomach juices? and relax that connection to the brain via a 2 way NERVE Lola recently wrote about, that in mice was stilled (or disrupted) with cayenne pepper?    I wonder could T or TC do the same?    

Has anyone eaten TC or T in place of sugar? Does it work from that perspective?  How much T is too much?        


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It is staggering to me to think of the abiding hunger that you have, Goldie! I would be that way, I think, if I ate things that I should avoid because every mouthful would keep building on the one before it until I would be insanely looking for the next "fix" because of the horrors of feeling terrible all the time. It would be a vicious cycle. Thankfully, I have never gotten even close to that condition in my lifetime because I have been cautious about what I have eaten for most of my life. It may go back to the horror I went through with the reaction I had to honey when I was a child. I learned very early that some foods can do us in - big time! And I didn't want that to happen to me again if I could possibly help it!

I keep wondering if your diabetes is your biggest challenge in trying to regulate what you eat. I have known diabetics who wanted to eat everything in sight that they shouldn't, and others who are thin and never seem to be bothered by that at all. So maybe diabetes is not the root of it. The other thought is that your body is needing something that you are not getting, and you will continue to suffer this terrible feeling until that is addressed.

If you can think back over the last several days to a time when you felt sufficed for a reasonable length of time, maybe you could figure out what you ate or did that brought that about. What foods you ate, what supplements you took, your activities, etc.

As for how much more Trehalose Complex or Trehalose it would be safe for you to consume, I don't think there is an answer for that yet and may not be for a while. Dr. D. said he took a tablespoonful every morning (unless that was one of those famous "misprints!!"). But I'm not brave enough to try that much at once. Not yet.


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Goldie, it also might be a side effect of the precriptions you are on if you take some for your diabetes. But isn't that the whole being O thing--that we are always hungry? i could graze all day! i did do intermittent fasting for about 2 months and that helped me drop 15 lbs, but i find it increasingly hard to do it. right now, i just try to push back breakfast. so typically i would have breakfast at around 6 am, now i have it at 10 am (or later) depending on how busy i am at work. good luck!
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Today I had on interesting experience.. the sort of ill feeling right under my ribs.. a spot of a sliver dollar.. had it a life time.. my doc said it is the exit out of the stomach , or maybe the entrance.. Ok no news there.. But then I had to wait someplace and all they had was on apple.. I ate it and felt better very soon.. SO WHAT is it?    ****

... and for the foods I ate as a kid, I basically think it was all FATTY pastries with cream and butter, cold cuts with relative fatty veal and always chocolate, all full of fat.. I used to eat all that because it felt ok..I never ever thought about it.

I did not know then that I was sensitive to milk and suffered belly aches all day..

***** I still wonder, should I try more stomach remedies other than what NAP sells?  Like try Prilosec?   Or some other thing that contains ALLOWABLE pepper? (as per Lola's story to numb the nerve endings which communicate with the brain.. Just meandering..  ... )    


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Warming spices, such as ginger, can help the stomach and digestion in most cases.  How does cinnamon feel to your body?  It is also an herb that is used as a natural remedy to regulate blood sugar.  



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***** I still wonder, should I try more stomach remedies other than what NAP sells?  Like try Prilosec?   Or some other thing that contains ALLOWABLE pepper? (as per Lola's story to numb the nerve endings which communicate with the brain.. Just meandering..  ... )    

I literally gasped when I read Prilosec! If you want more problems, start taking that stuff! I think if you would FORCE yourself to sip veggie drinks all day long aside from your regular diet, you would see a major difference in the way your stomach feels. You certainly don't need anymore garbage down there.  

I think people in general highly underestimate what veggie drinks can do for their stomachs! I have suffered agonies with my stomach in the past, and I know for an undeniable fact that veggie drinks help heal and soothe whatever ails it. Stomach and esophageal pain has kept me awake at night for thousands of hours during my lifetime, and all that is part of the reason I have trouble sleeping at night now. It is almost like my body forgot how to sleep because of lying awake at night for so many years. I'm going to have a drink right now. See you later......


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Yes, and as Victoria said, ginger is something I eat every single day because of the benefit to my stomach.


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ah yes good reminder.. juice.. I am the queen of juice,.. ok I add ginger   I will report back..


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Wow, still.

Yesterday I had an evaluation for sensory integration disorder with an Occupational Therapist.  (I finally realized there is such a thing and my kids have it, and I realized I definitely have it too, so I found a therapist who would take adult patients for it) I was worried he would say nothing was wrong with me, like all other doctors have, so I skipped the trahalose in the morning so that my symptoms would be at their worst.  So I drove and drove in the hot sun, went around in circles at the medical center trying to find the office, then got there to a hospital like setting with fluorescent lights and lots of noise.  I think I shouldn't have skipped the trehalose, because by the time he did all the tests (which are designed to be annoying but not too annoying) I was just crawling out of my skin and nauseated.  The good news was he will help me, but I'll be sure and take my trehalose before my treatments so that they can go further.  

Still enjoying the extra energy and focus from the trehalose, and still losing weight.  I don't know if it's "making" me lose weight, or just helping me do what I have to do to lose weight.


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Oh, Melissa, I feel for you trying to get help under such trying circumstances! At least you didn't get the old "nothing is wrong" spiel! I'm glad you had the Trehalose Complex to go home to and will have it throughout this treatment. I certainly think it will help you get your money's worth too!


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Melissa_J.. please report back on your progress..for a young lady .. I googled:  sensory integration disorder and found this interesting.. at least a good to know about it.. I can see where this might help to be recognized by some.... and now even be getting help is a good thing..  
Thanks.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1689216,00.html

As for the Trehalose Complex... and my brain... It helped with some feeling of 'less' hope.. but not yet my ability to make sure that I think better..

I am over reacting here, but I find it hard to 'access' very short term stuff I just typed, or forgetting in which thread it was that I saw something.I never remember names..

Just today there was word shown in my spell check and I had forgotten how I used that word.. I mean really, this memory stuff better get improved soon.     


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FYI... I stopped taking TC because 1) it made me feel weird, and 2) it made me too anxious.  I think I'll stick with Tranquility Base and Cortiguard.
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Sorry, you couldn't get the right "fit" with Trehalose Complex. The people I personally know who are on TC and had any kind of "weird" feelings felt all right when they took a smaller amount and gradually worked up from there to whatever was comfortable for them. Actually, I am not taking it for the same things that Tranquility Base and Cortiguard address. I want things "fixed," and I know for myself that road is not always "tranquil!!" When I am feeling great, though, which is most of the time, it makes any little effort to get to that point overwhelmingly worthwhile!!


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ah yes good reminder.. juice.. I am the queen of juice,.. ok I add ginger   I will report back..


Hi, Have you ever try V8 juice such as: Carrot, spinach, celery, tomato, garlic, ginger, parley.


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Goldie, yes, I wish Sensory Integration Disorders were more well known.  I'll probably write a blog about it or start a thread about it.  I thought it was just a difficult part of my personality that I had to live with and could only adapt to but never change.  This should be an interesting journey.  NMT helped so that last summer I could stand to take my boys to the carnival, and it actually helped me figure out how extensive I have it...even though I don't think my NMT practitioner even knows what to call it yet.  There's even such a thing (not quite recognized by psychiatrists though) called Sensory Affective Disorder, which explains my Seasonal Affective Disorder quite concisely, so maybe I'll trade one disorder for another


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good luck.. I will follow a thread on your coping skills leaned.. for sure.. No I would never have thought that 'you had to live with it' but I am glad there is or at least might be some better answer..


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I think people in general highly underestimate what veggie drinks can do for their stomachs!


Forgive me, Spring, for I have not read through all the replies, but would you give me an idea on what you like to put in your "veggie drink"? Sounds intriguing.


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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...........yet in my veg JUICE only;y no pulp, I use any green  watery items available.. when I was able to buy Organic dandelion a foot long I made them for about 6 weeks .. drank it by the glass full.. it has a bitter green taste, I could do it then, but it can make you woozy - it is best mixed with other things and used just a few leaves..

The best tasting things are carrots, celery, and so on.. I believe in:

Drink your vegetables (organic whatever you can get) and eat your fruit whole.

  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Drea, I always use organic veggies, of course, but my drinks are a little different from Goldie's! I don't juice! I'm a believer in making things as simple as possible, and that way I know I will be more apt to take the time to do it day in and day out! I throw whatever suits my mood at the time into my blender with just enough filtered water to make it drinkable, blend thoroughly and drink!! For my own needs, there is nothing better than Romaine lettuce, celery, cucumber and carrots. These together are a powerhouse for me and so soothing to my esophagus and stomach! But any number of vegetables can be used, and I have added different ones to my basic drink. I never add fruit to it, though.

I have tried to do a whole blender full at once to drink during the day, but, naturally, it has a tendency to darken in the fridge so I only did that back when I wasn't feeling well enough to do anything else. Since Trehalose has come along I think I will try using some of that to help "preserve" it and see what happens. If it works, that would save a lot of time and be wonderful, especially, if I weren't feeling well.

This is certainly a fast, easy way to enjoy a LOT of veggies and their wonderful benefits!!


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