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So, trehalose is two glucose molecules C6H12O6, nothing more, nothing less. Please explain to me why it matters how, or from what, it is made?
The only reason I can think of is if, as C# said, it is cut down corn starch and the processor wasn't watching quality well, some uncut starch could be in your package of trehalose. I have no idea, however, how likely this is to happen. |
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Dr. D has never said it matters.
Things made from corn generally make me sick. For many people this does not matter they can eat corn.
I am therefore leery of buying corn products (especially those from agricultural giant Cargill-which loves to use genetically modified corn).
Trehalose used to called mushroom sugar and products made from mushroom are expensive.
A few years ago Hayashibara and Cargill discovered you could make trehalose cheaply by throwing a few enzymes on some corn starch and splitting up the starch in smaller units.
If you can eat other products made from corn-
Acetic acid Ascorbates Citric acid Dextrose Fructose Fumaric acid Germ/germ meal Glucose syrup Maltitol Maltodextrin Maltol Maltose Propionic acid
My guess is you will do fine on trehalose.
Obviously if things were 100% pure without anything else it would not matter what was the original source.
But my experience is most food products made from corn are not at 100% purity levels.
The products are not labeled with purity and I cannot afford to send them to labs for testing.
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| Saturday, February 4, 2012, 5:42pm |
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Obviously if things were 100% pure without anything else it would not matter what was the original source.
But my experience is most food products made from corn are not at 100% purity levels.
The products are not labeled with purity and I cannot afford to send them to labs for testing.
Understood, I wonder what's the source of the trehalose Dr.D is using? |
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| Saturday, February 4, 2012, 6:07pm |
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So where to get my hands on some....
C_Sharp, what source should it come from? Would it say on the packet?
I don't think I can get it here in Ireland- might have to order it in from the States...which would be a good brand to get?
In Ireland nearly all trehalose products are Treha™ (Cargill's brand of Trehalose) whether the packets say Treha™ or not. This is because EU regulations grants Cargill pretty much exclusive rights to the market (at least that is the way it appears to me). It is regulated as a "novel food ingredient." Treha™ is made from corn starch. |
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I could see minimally distruptive grains with uncooked trehalose confection spreads paired with Yera Mate mix infusion for the health conscious who want something nice for tea. Replacing some of the agave or glycerine in the Carob extract product might lead to a great confection.
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| Saturday, February 4, 2012, 6:18pm |
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C_sharp, you really are on the ball! Thank you so much for the links- forewarned is fore-armed  Bottomline- it is amazing, versatile stuff and well worth searching for a good source for! |
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| Tuesday, February 21, 2012, 8:41pm |
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I know what source of Ribose he uses... One company has their mark on everything it is in! I am actually going to try some of the Trehalose (not from NAP) with the Ribose I already have. I figured it'll be cheaper this way until I am taking less Ribose. |
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| Tuesday, February 28, 2012, 11:23pm |
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Well I instantly responded to it. I feel.... hungry again? CRAZY. |
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| Wednesday, February 29, 2012, 3:18am |
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I have an age spot on my right cheek and left temple...will see how they look after two month dose of this sweet stuff |
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| Saturday, March 10, 2012, 6:03pm |
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it clearly states
Quoted Text Dr. D'Adamo does not recommend taking Trehalose with green tea or quercetin.
knock yourself out adding it to your morning smoothy..... I wouldn t bake with it though, or cook
Lola, do you have any more info on why green tea and quercetin would conflict? Or how far apart they would need to be? I'd like to add it to smoothies, but after the breakfast smoothie is when I have a couple of mugs of green tea. |
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I d say around a half hour after DPN might have an exact answer for you  |
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| Sunday, March 11, 2012, 2:09pm |
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Thanks Lola.  I've started drinking the Trehalose as soon as I get into the kitchen in the morning. It's very pleasant tasting. That works for me. |
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| Sunday, March 11, 2012, 9:04pm |
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as for shipping it over sea.. poor two into one container.. saves on postage.. the jr is bigger then its content.. pays to order several as postage is getting more expensive......... as just a sugar substitute it might be costly.. and only a level tea spoon is needed.. a little goes a long way ... I am trying it .. works better then sugar on anything.. and I might try it as deodorant.. like on a washcloth.. eating with grapefruit DR D suggestion.. might make the grapefruit sweet.. mmmhm am hoping that it will dramatically improve neuropathy.. and if some brown spots on my hands disapear ok too..as for the brain.. welllll today i sat by the computer for several hours reading intricate stuff.. could it be that Trehalose helped my concentration? |
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| Sunday, March 11, 2012, 9:43pm |
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am hoping that it will dramatically improve neuropathy.. and if some brown spots on my hands disapear ok too..as for the brain.. welllll today i sat by the computer for several hours reading intricate stuff.. could it be that Trehalose helped my concentration?
Neuro issues are definitely aided by better autophagy - from reading several articles on Pubmed... The brain is largely nerve tissue, so it should be helped greatly by increased autohagy. Dr. D. commented that age spots were lightening after a couple of weeks use of Trehalose and grapefruit juice. |
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| Sunday, March 11, 2012, 10:47pm |
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...and I might try it as deodorant.. like on a washcloth.. .
Victoria was intimating it would work from internal deoderising  Otherwise you'd find the washcloth would absorb most of it I reckon... 
I would think it's an internal deodorant due to its effect on the cells.
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I d say around a half hour after DPN might have an exact answer for you 
I called DPN they did say 1/2 hour. Do you consider yerba mate' green tea? It has quercetin in it according to the food data base. |
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| Sunday, March 11, 2012, 11:09pm |
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I would treat quercetin the same as green tea for the purposes of keeping it away from trehalose. Quercetin, green tea, coffee all act in ways that are somewhat opposed to trehalose, antioxidants are going to prevent the destruction of cells and trehalose is the clean-up crew promoting autophagy. |
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Quercetin, green tea, coffee all act in ways that are somewhat opposed to trehalose, antioxidants are going to prevent the destruction of cells and trehalose is the clean-up crew promoting autophagy.
Thanks! This makes sense. |
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I know what source of Ribose he uses... One company has their mark on everything it is in! I am actually going to try some of the Trehalose (not from NAP) with the Ribose I already have. I figured it'll be cheaper this way until I am taking less Ribose.
Really glad you are finding success with the Trehalose you are taking  Do you mind telling me what brand it is please? |
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Really glad you are finding success with the Trehalose you are taking  Do you mind telling me what brand it is please?
I don't think it is possible to matter what brand it happens to be... Trehalose is trehalose. There are only two molecules per bit of it. It might come from corn but it is indigestible and so far from resembling food... To me it seems like there shouldn't even be traces of anything left in it. I had some from LEM, now I have some from Swanson. The D-Ribose is a sugar that gives life to cells (energy) and then you open the opportunity for them to function well with Trehalose. The combination is going to promote function of cells well, where as just Trehalose is going to detox them. You could combine large amounts of Trehalose, say like 1-2 lbs, with one bottle of D-Ribose. (6 to 1 relationship) and then some citrus pectin (won't probably be as good as NAP's modified version, at 12 to 1). A reason to buy a huge amount of it is if you want to use it as a sweetener, on skin, etc. The recommended amount from NAP per day isn't that high, and will last quiet awhile. |
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