Quoted from Goldie

confidence is coming back.. I wonder where it ever went   but gone it was!   w'll see soon enough.

Yes, I have noticed that too! Having to be careful about overdoing things almost beyond my strength! I'm sort of like a horse that has finally been let out of the stall!!  We don't even HAVE a smiley that can describe how I feel!!

Spring, that is a great direction to be going in with your eyesight!  May it continue!  

Thanks, Victoria!!

Wow.  That is so great!

Quoted from Spring

Unless a person has a real objection to anything sweet, I don't know how they could possibly dislike it.

I got some trehalose yesterday, and it's not nearly as sweet as table sugar, honey, or agave syrup.  I took my first dose today.

Quoted from Possum

Absolutely no chance that anyone could be weird enough be able to make or absorb that enzyme, is there?

I'd expect there to be a known range for trehalase production in the human body, and that the recommended dose is padded enough to cancel that out so that enough is left to do what it's supposed to do.

TJ, you have to be kidding!! The sweetness is astounding to me. What sort of taster are you!? I haven't had any table sugar in so long I couldn't tell you what it tastes like, but Trehalose is much sweeter than honey or agave to me. Honey has something about it that just turns me off and agave is simply okay. If I didn't know Trehalose Complex was good for us, I wouldn't have ANY of it because it is so sweet. (It is like - do you mean to tell me that I can have T H A T!?)It is very good with the sour taste of grapefruit, though.

Just my experience.  But I'm using Swanson Ultra 100% Pure Trehalose, not Trehalose Complex.  The taste/sweetness may be different.

Quoted from Spring

TJ, you have to be kidding!! The sweetness is astounding to me. What sort of taster are you!? I haven't had any table sugar in so long I couldn't tell you what it tastes like, but Trehalose is much sweeter than honey or agave to me. Honey has something about it that just turns me off and agave is simply okay. If I didn't know Trehalose Complex was good for us, I wouldn't have ANY of it because it is so sweet. (It is like - do you mean to tell me that I can have T H A T!?)It is very good with the sour taste of grapefruit, though.

If I remember correctly, Trehalose has ribose in it. I just found some ribose in my cupboard and decided to use it up as a clinic I go to serves hot beverages for their clients and they have no sugar...but a canister of D-Ribose. It gives one energy, yet does not feed candida despite how sweet it is. I am considering making some type of nut cluster treat that I dehydrate and will use some of this in it.

I will eventually get the Trehalose for all of the other ingredients and to 'renew' my cells.

Spring, your great experience with Trehalose is contagious...I am looking forward to trying it without reservation!  

Dianne, I don't dare use this for the treat you described! I would have no resistance!! I'm sure it won't be in your house long!

Quoted from TJ

I got some trehalose yesterday, and it's not nearly as sweet as table sugar, honey, or agave syrup.  I took my first dose today.

D-Ribose is 33% as sweet a sugar
Trehalose is 36% as sweet as sugar

Trehalose Complex contains 6 times as much Trehalose as D-Ribose.
It also contains citrus pectin

Quoted from TJ

I got some trehalose yesterday, and it's not nearly as sweet as table sugar, honey, or agave syrup.  I took my first dose today.

Quoted from TJ

Just my experience.  But I'm using Swanson Ultra 100% Pure Trehalose, not Trehalose Complex.  The taste/sweetness may be different.

Quoted from C_sharp

D-Ribose is 33% as sweet a sugar
Trehalose is 36% as sweet as sugar

Trehalose Complex contains 6 times as much Trehalose as D-Ribose.
It also contains citrus pectin

TJ - could the reason yours isn't as sweet, be because of the lack of D-Ribose?

Quoted from C_sharp

D-Ribose is 33% as sweet a sugar
Trehalose is 36% as sweet as sugar

Trehalose Complex contains 6 times as much Trehalose as D-Ribose.
It also contains citrus pectin

Going by your numbers C_Sharp, I guess I would fall flat on the floor if I tasted plain old sugar after all this time. I simply cannot imagine anything tasting sweeter than Trehalose!

I would definately describe the experience as calming and wow something feels right about it! I tried to get my stressed teacher to try it but she was afraid it would have the opposite effect like the teacher supps which give her energy. It's amazing how people let fear rule them. We all do it !

Ok TJ.. the sugar substitute trehalose -not the supplement combo of the Complex - I have questions ...other than replace sugar what else does it do for you? I will be curious... so few tell what TC actually does.  Like I said those who are used to eating sugar will find this nice as a healthier replacement.  On a daily basis how much of it are you eating?  For TC I only get 4x 1/4 teaspoons on my 1/4 grapefruit.  I will be interested to see how many uses you will make out of it / will you make rice pudding? put it on salad or on rice cake sandwiches? are you using it as a 'diet' item or as 'sugar'?  

and most important... as on experiment ... what are you expecting from it?  what will make it worth the price?   Should I buy a pound and share it with overweight kids in the family..  Should I use it to make things more kids like sweet and try to serve them vegetables in some way with trehalose?  how might it help them?  

These kids eat very few vegetables. But I took them to dinner the first time yesterday and they ate little enough, so I can not really figure where they get their weight from ... other then pasta starches.. so stupid.  

I wish there was a CHILDRENs cooking ability BTD COOK BOOK for KIDS.. to cook fun foods .. They might be O (I think)  I wonder if the on line books would be fun?? I think I will order one and  have it printed at a local store and make a gift of it for the twins birthday. Worth a try.. you just encouraged me to do so.. TJ thanks.. I needed that.  

Sugar and wheat are very high in calories, and most kids eat enough of it to keep them plump.  Just look at the way the majority of people eat.  The bread is enough to keep their bodies well "fed".  And then they add sugar on top of that and man.  I'm not saying it's good food, I'm saying that most people eat enough of those two foods to the point that they would not lose weight.  My guess is when people keep eating like this, it will eventually end up biting them in the you know where.  Many vegetables have very little calories.  But lots of good value.  And if there is one thing I noticed, is that a lot of people in the world, adults included, really don't like vegetables.  Look  at the commercials out there for V-8 juices and such.  They're always making it out like it's gross to eat a plate of veggies and it would just be easier to turn to a drink or supplement to replace it.  Pish posh.  

IMHO, I see a culture addicted to wheat, sugar, and things that might give them fuel in the short term, but probably do more damage in the long run.  I used to be one, so, I'm not judging.  I'm just really glad I learned how to eat better.  And I think my family is better off for it.  Because I'm the cook.  My kids eat stuff that most people totally turn their nose up at.  Even at our church, everything revolves around sugar parties.  Ice cream socials.  Dessert night.  Cakes at every oppportunity.  Candy at AWANA.  It really is irritating.

Quoted from Possum

TJ - could the reason yours isn't as sweet, be because of the lack of D-Ribose?

Looking strictly at those percentages, pure trehalose should be sweeter than a trehalose/ribose combo.

Quoted from Goldie

Ok TJ.. the sugar substitute trehalose -not the supplement combo of the Complex - I have questions ...other than replace sugar what else does it do for you? I will be curious... so few tell what TC actually does.  Like I said those who are used to eating sugar will find this nice as a healthier replacement.  On a daily basis how much of it are you eating?  For TC I only get 4x 1/4 teaspoons on my 1/4 grapefruit.  I will be interested to see how many uses you will make out of it / will you make rice pudding? put it on salad or on rice cake sandwiches? are you using it as a 'diet' item or as 'sugar'?  

and most important... as on experiment ... what are you expecting from it?  what will make it worth the price?

Dr. D adds other ingredients to TC that are complimentary to the trehalose to increase its effectiveness, just like he does with all his supplements.  I expect it to do the same thing as TC only not as effectively.  I don't expect to see any dramatic, visible improvements immediately.  It seems like a supplement that works to gradually help the body heal long-term damage and dysfunction, so that's what I'm looking for.  Any other benefit will just be icing on the cake.  I can't justify the cost of TC.  This stuff I got was $10 for one lb.  Today is only my second day using it.  I just used it as a supplement today and yesterday, not as a sweetener.  The serving scoop is about 5 gm, and I'm just using one daily.  I don't yet know what the optimal daily amount is.  Unfortunately I don't know what it's sourced from.  I'll probably find out it's sourced from corn; I didn't even think about that when I bought it, but even if it is, the processing has probably eliminated most of the corn lectin.

So I had this thought ( After taking Trehalose for a week   ) that since Trelahose is a double glucose molecule that it would be an ideal attraction for Lectins.  So that would mean it has one more benefit to improve your health.

The cheap way to produce trehalose is to use enzymes to split corn starch (long chains of glucose) into two glucose units.  

The expensive way is to extract it from mushrooms.

I did notice one organization selling trehalose claiming to make it from tapioca starch instead of corn starch.

I do not know how Swanson product is produced. I looked on their site and could not find information, but I did not email to find out.  For what they sell it for they are not using mushrooms as a source.

I imagine the cheaper a product is the more likely it is to be made from and the less likely that it is purified to remove contaminants.

IS THAT a question or statement?  

Mushrooms? what KIND?    Tapioka?     Corn.. So could one type be better than the other?

We ALL need more info on it.. like how much a day to use it as 'sugar'..  any harmful effect? at what level ?

Quoted from Goldie

Mushrooms? what KIND?

Quoted from Wikipedia

In plants, the presence of trehalose is seen in sunflower seeds, moonwort, Selaginella plants,[8] and sea algae. ... It is prevalent in some mushrooms, such as shiitake (Lentinula edodes), maitake (Grifola fondosa), nameko (Pholiota nameko), and Judas's ear (Auricularia auricula-judae), which can contain 1% to 17% percent of trehalose in dry weight form (thus it is also referred to as mushroom sugar). Trehalose can also be found in such microorganisms as baker's yeast and wine yeast, ...

Quoted from Goldie

IS THAT a question or statement?  

it's an extrapolation.

Quoted from Tom Martens

it's an extrapolation.

Well said!!

Or wondering out loud!!??  

Quoted from Goldie

like how much a day to use it as 'sugar'..  any harmful effect? at what level ?  

Their suggestion is 1 teaspoon twice a day. I wouldn't know how to use it as regular sugar because I don't use sugar anyway. I use a tad of agave and maybe a tablespoon of beet syrup in a week. So I'm not really chomping at the bit to increase my intake over these 2 teaspoons I'm taking now.

I still can't believe the energy.............simply incredibly WOW!!