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Ligia
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I need your wise advise on this issue.

I'm planning a trip to India towards the end of Feburary.  What do I need to take with me as far as supplements?  What would you use in case of diarrhea, for example?

What do you think of malaria immunization?  Is there an alternative to it?

Any other ideas are welcome.  With your advice and experience in these matters, I know I'll be well taken care of.

Thanks.
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What do you think of malaria immunization?  Is there an alternative to it?

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Quite possibly Malaria. Though there is a lot of controversy surrounding immunization but having a shot is likely to be required in order to enter the country.

If you are a person of northern ancestry getting Malaria would be a rather serious situation. You would have to assume that you have no natural immunity at all and may have to return home to medical people who are not familiar with the condition.






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I spent 4 1/2 months there in 1985.  I did get a couple of vaccinations and don't remember what they were.  But they were required.  And I took what I think were quinine tablets.  Malaria is very serious business and I don't personally know of a natural antidote for it.  You'll need mosquito netting for sleeping and lots of whichever kind of mosquito repellant you are comfortable with.  I burned lots of mosquito repellant sticks, which were saturated with something and I don't know what it was, but it kept them out of our bedroom.

Drinking uncontaminated water is of highest importance.  If you can take your own water purification system, it will be awesome.  You'll need to research which ones are portable and will filter out the smallest cysts.  Take iodine to put in questionable water.  Boil water whenever you can.  Do some studying on purifying water while camping and/or traveling.  

Eat lots of raw garlic while you're there, as well as Dr. D's Polyflora A.  I ate curd (yogurt, usually made from water buffalo milk) a lot.  Decide what you are going to do about eating wheat.  Chapattis are a staple there and they messed with my gut, but at the time I didn't know it was the wheat.  Otherwise a type A diet should be pretty workable over there.

I did get amoebic dysentery and tried everything natural to get rid of it. The kutir (house) I was staying in had the water pipes connected incorrectly.   Auyrvedic formulas, Chinese medicine, western herbs, nothing helped.  It was way beyond simple diarrhea.  Finally I went to an MD and got the chemicals which I took for 3 weeks.  

Rubber flip-flops are the best shoes to wear if you're there during the rainy season.  Leather just molds in the damp heat. If you leave your shoes outside of buildings, which is expected, people sometimes 'borrow' your shoes (this was in rural India).  They generally will always return them, although it is not always the same day.  



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Sounds like you had fun Victoria.  

Here is a page that pretty well covers the ground for travel to India. Precautions are dependent on where you are going to be in the country. As far as I can see re. Malaria there is no vaccination but there are anti-malarial drugs and various precautions you can take.

Medial Precautions for Travel to India





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Thank you all for your thoughts.
I'm staying with a friend.  I don't know if I need to purify water.  I'll be in Visag and will visit Kerela.  Don't know exactly where in Kerela.  I'll follow your other recommendations.
I'll read the link.

Thanks again.
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popadoms are made of chickpea flour they call it gram flour (not related to our cracker) mutton is likly to be goat, almost everything is spicy and hot but a few things are not so bad. chicken tika and butter chicken are not usuly too hot. most fish and seafoods are palitable. this will also depend on the region (and your cook)
bottled water is your best bet and is every where you can find some one selling stuff. DON'T DRINK THE SODAS! they bottle their own and have their own recipe. i think it has real suger in it but there is no telling where that bottle has been before it got to you or what else is inside that bottle.
you can't leave the country with out your shots being up to date and malaria is not an option (you would not want it to be)
one last thing  take misqeto cream or spray (lots of it) it will save you alot of itching.the monsters are every where and as a general rule there is no air conditioning and therefor no glass in the windows to keep them out. apearanly window screening has not cuaght on there eather (at leat as of ten years ago)


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Oh the sodas are horrible - artificial  coloring, artificial flavors, preservatives and lots of sugar.    

Chai is probably the most delicious beverage, plus the lassies and fresh coconut water.



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Hi Ligia,

I went to India (northern) for June of 2007 and here is what I took:

I did not use medication for malaria but I did do homeopathic prophylaxis (I think it was Malaria 30C once per week and China 6 days per week starting a couple weeks before I left and continuing a couple weeks once I was back).  The area I was visiting was low risk and the strains of malaria in that area were less severe.  When I arrived, I spoke with some of the doctors I was preceptoring with and they all told me they never saw cases of malaria there and not to worry.  I only used a mosquito net in the Himalayas in a cabin, otherwise we used overhead fans (makes it hard for mosquitos to land on you!) and mosquito repellant scents.  Check out the info for your area and make a decision.  

I also did not bring any antibiotics nor did I need any (although every other person on my trip did!).  Instead, I brought grapefruit seed extract liquid, which you can use to prevent and treat microbial infections.  I never needed it.  I also brought digestive enzymes, which I never needed so I gave them away.  As an A, you might find these more useful - look for a brand with betaine HCl too.

The only immunization I did before I left was tetanus and now I probably wouldn't bother.  I didn't need any to get a visa.

I took the following supplements daily:
- Polyflora O (a must-have - do not travel without taking a probiotic!)
- ARA Plus (immune support)
- Deflect O (to protect your gut from avoids!)
- Sea salt (I put a pinch in all my water bottles and I think this really helped prevent me from getting ill by keeping my mineral/electrolyte levels up when sweating a lot!)
- Harmonia powder (for extra nutrition, immune support, etc - I ran out partway through and I felt worse once I wasn't taking it)
- Unibars (I brought enough to have 1 per day in case I needed a quick snack)
- Wormwood tincture (anti-parasitic)

If I were to go again, I would also bring:
- Tea tree oil for any cuts/scrapes, etc
- Eye drops and ear drops (just in case)
- Homeopathic first aid kit to treat diarrhea, burns, bruises, fever, flu, etc
- Ingredients to make a natural electrolyte drink in case of diarrhea


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Toilet paper. Seems they wash with their hands w/soap and water.  


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Thank you all for all your ideas.

I contacted my naturopath and have an appointment tomorrow with her.  She's putting together a kit for me.  I asked her for a homeopathic malaria remedy.  Thank you, Whimsical.

I'll keep you all posted.
Have a great weekend.
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I went to India twice for 3 weeks each time.  The last was 2005.  There were certain shots that were required.  For Malaria it was pills.  The local bus driver for our Rotary group got malaria right after we left.  Don’t drink the water.  On the 1st trip our group was really good about it until we stayed at a palace turned into hotel.  They met the bus with rose water for us.  ½ the group got sick.  


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How exciting!!  Have a good time and tell us all about it when you get back.
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haha, how could i forget about the tolit papper! the family i stayed with actualy had some for me but i had my own, after two weeks of never ending curry i was glad to had it
the water in the mumbi area is actualy very good. i was even able to have a drink from the spring on mahbleshwar (that is how it sounded, no idea of actual spelling) with no problem. had rose ice cream up there too, highly recomend that. the biggest problem i had the whole time i was there were these blood suckers. the only white person for miles around and every misquito wanted a taste!


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Thanks for all your comments, experiences and wishes.

I saw my naturopath on Saturday and she's ordering homeopathic prophylaxis for the malaria, can't remember the name.  She's ordering a remedy for traveler's diarrhea.

One more question.  How do you pass these supplements and remedies through the airport security?  Do you let them x-ray these?  Or do you separate them and hand the remedies to them to look over?

Is it save to x-ray these things?
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Hmm honestly I never thought about it.  I had all my supplements in my packed bags.


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I brought my supplements in my checked baggage and my homeopathics in my carry-on.  I asked around before I went and some people think that x-rays affect the remedies and some don't.  You can actually buy these protective bags from camera stores (for film) that block the radiation or you can ask them not to x-ray it and show them instead if you are concerned.

My experience has been that remedies seem to work fine after they go through x-rays - while in Nicaragua in 2010 I used lots of remedies on my travelling group and they worked.  


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Thanks Whimsical for replying.  I won't worry about the x-rays.

I'm from Nicaragua but I've been living in the US for a while now.  How was your trip?  Where did you go?
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